I own the 850 GSA and my brother in law owns the 850 GS. Both are wonderful all around motorcycles! The biggest difference is definitely wind protection and full capacity. I think he wishes he owned the adventure model. It is noticeably easier to live with day in and day out.
Well said! I do think that the Adventure may be significantly more versatile because of the fuel tank think. Wind protection may differ market to market though. Except for the deflectors which are for sure a great addition to the Adventure. Likely also the larger fuel tank contributes to more protection too. Thanks for sharing!
Greetings from Spain. I also own a f850 GS Adv. Kalamata. The use that I give it is exclusive for the road. I totally agree. In addition to the capacity of the gasoline tank, which offers more autonomy, it also offers protection that the 850 GS does not. I took the motorcycle from the dealership on January 7, ´21, with a temperature of 4ºC. My motorcycle clothing was a Reevit jacket, a helmet and some jeans. And I did not have cold legs due to the protection of the tank. What I did was put another windshiell on it for greater protection on the helmet and upper body for speeds greater than 100 km / h.
I had GSA and now I have GS, the difference is enormous on weight, engine heat and wind deflection. I sold GSA because it is so damn hot for Brazilian roads. And I bought the normal GS and loved the weight reduction, it is a very big difference
@@VToldsMotoShow the fairings! Adv versions both 850 and 1250 they make fairing to not come wind to legs, which is good in the winter but terrible in the summer. Both were 2019
I bought a 750GS. I didn't see the need to go spending an extra 3-4 thousand u.s. dollars for a bike that is essentially the same thing. Plus I was upgrading from the 310GS.
Yeah, the value for money factor is often out there - right. I guess that we all have our definition of it to stick to out there. That's why BMW offers the 750 and 850 and they keep them in the lineup - it means that there are many of us who look at it like you. Thanks for sharing!
I got the 850GS instead of the Adventure model as I moved down from a Yamaha Super Tenere. For me it was all about the weight. The F850 GSA is still heavy. The smaller fuel tank isn't an issue. I ride in Europe and there are petrol stations everywhere. The range on a full tank is more than 300Kms so fuel stops are welcome after a longish ride. I don't have a pillion issue as my partner rides too... So weight saving is king... Nice, light and maneuverable. Fits the bill perfectly. Don't miss the extra protection the GSA tank gives. We have a very mild climate in the Mediterranean and our winters are light. Most of our touring is done from March till October... Good weather and not much rain. Changed the Screen to an MRA Vario touring screen and it's perfect.
Light winters sound especially exciting to me. I'm not kidding. One and the same continent and such differences. Here there are basically 6 months of winter. About the Super Tenere, well, I've tried that and even though it seemed fine, the number one thing I remember is that my knees were getting hurt after sliding forward and pressing them against parts of the fairings. But I still wonder why Yamaha decided to discontinue it. Anyway, I'm glad that you're happy with your F850GS and good luck with it!
@@VToldsMotoShow Spent 30K Kms in the Super Tenere saddle and never had issues with the fairing (what fairing? ) and it's been the most comfortable bike i've ever had... Even more than my BMW RT after 5 hour rides. Still the more I ride the 850 the more I love it.
Good vid. Liked that you pointed out difference in seat height could be very relevant for some to push the decision to adv version. And the extra wind deflectors. Those are huge to me.
Well... nicely said, but on another hand 800 or 850 GSA? I have to say that after 2 weeks on 850GSA I return with a big smile on my face to my slighltly tuned 800 GSA. ( wind buff eliminated and decat + air temp cheet)
Honestly saying, I truly enjoyed the 800/800 Adventure. The 850 was fine but I believe that the suspension may not necessarily be better. I was feeling crazily excited when on the previous generation, so the 800. Now after riding the 850 it was fine, but I wouldn't wait in excitement to ride it again.
Well done, enjoyed it as usual. The weight difference is really considerable - GSA 248kg (almost as much as R1250GS!) vs GS 233kg. As weight of an additional petrol is only 6kg (8 litres x 0.75kg) it gives 9kg for other stuff (fairing, protective bars, etc.). What is the wind protection on F850GS - legs, shoulders & head areas?
I'm glad you liked the video. Wind protection isn't great nor bad. There are not noticeable turbulences which is good but I'd say forget any significant protection in the shoulders and legs area. Head is fine but I myself would replace the windshield with a taller, aftermarket one anyway, even riding mostly in the city, to gain more flexibility with it. Since there are so many aftermarket options, there likely is something for everyone on F850GS/GSA.
@@molward I understood that, but if I did, I would compare the standard version and the adventure version separately .. Well, of course, it's clear that the performance is completely elsewhere ..
@@TakToJsmeMy the point I wanted to make is that 248kg for middle class adventure bike is way too much considering that a standard bigger brother is about the same weight. I didn’t want to compare GS vs. GSA as the whole film is about it.
Hi, a beautiful and specific video, thank you. I purchased this bike two days ago. and I'm waiting for it, I read and I hear that the engine is not good because it is Chinese. what can you tell me? Thank you
Thanks and I'm happy that you like the video. I wouldn't care where the engine is from or where it is assembled. iPhone is also made in China just like so many other low and high tech stuff. Don't worry about that. It only matters how it rides and if it suits your style.
I bought the GS Adventure back in 2020 nearly 19,000 miles on it now trouble free great on our motorways a little bit heavy off road but I learned to only fill the tank half full otherwise cannot fault it plus the bonus is it’s out of warranty now and I service it myself saving loads of money that bmw make off you servicing it the only time it will go back to bmw is for the value shims to be done cost of £500 with a service which comes with the shims being done I average 65 mpg on motorways and anything up 78 mpg on A & B roads so very engine for the size of the bike
I liked the video. Funny thing I'm in the market for one of these types of bikes,and like the 850. I have been looking,and just saw there was two,and then as fate would have it ran across your video. I don't know why BMW would build two bikes so close to each other.
I agree - normally manufacturers do work on different suspension setup at least. Heck, BMW does that with R1250GS series but somehow here they've done nothing really significant. Maybe the next generation will introduce some more changes like other manufacturers have in this segment with their models.
Great Video, i feel like you helped a lot of people here. One thought I had is that you could just take extra fuel with you on the non adventure GS. This way you can go on every adventure the GSA could but don't have to carry the extra weight around on a daily 15min commute. Does anybody actually do this?
thanks, I'm happy that you liked the video and yes, I saw a guy who has done that fuel trick on an Africa Twin right here at this specific time frame - just click the link: th-cam.com/video/2VBrdsn2Uk0/w-d-xo.html
i own the f800gsa 14 i believe the f800 have more character than f850gs/gsa , the f850 is more complete bike (better on road for sure )but its not worth the upgrade for me for just electronics and 10+ hp (which with ecu remap i can get it ) . Finally i think its to expensive for that u get (loncin engine for cheaper deal and u pay 18k € for full extra without 3 cases ),the competition have better choises .Before 10 years bmw keep alive the category of 2 cylinder mid on/off and now presents the f850 with similar weight as 1250gs .
That's an interesting opinion. I've got to say that if I had the 800, I'd also not be looking at the 850. Especially if you've got the "more legendary" Adventure in the name of it. If I'm right about the suspension's feeling of comfort in the 800 vs 850, I'd consider the 800 a much more appealing motorcycle if you've got one. I'd have to ride them both one right after the other to be 100% sure about the difference in favor of 800 being that big, but nonetheless I'm convinced that I enjoyed it more. And that's not a pattern with BMW as for example I like the newer S1000XR more than the previous one, and the same applies to R1200GS and R1250GS. I enjoy the 1250 more. This makes me believe that the 800 really grabbed my heart easier than the current 850. All the best with your GS!
@@VToldsMotoShow definitely a downgrade the 850 over the 800. More weight. Less suspension travel. The extra 9hp probably doesn't even make up for the extra 15kgs and a smaller fuel tank. Some say the 800 is smoother in the lower rpm range. I know it gets real buzzy 5k>
Why confusing? Some data provided by BMW is confusing yet knowing that may make you pay attention to thet and investigate further if you care about those things. Other than that, it was supposed to be rather listing and explaining the differences, so sorry if there was too much complaining about BMW and their inconsistence in providing official information :)
I own the 850 GSA and my brother in law owns the 850 GS. Both are wonderful all around motorcycles! The biggest difference is definitely wind protection and full capacity. I think he wishes he owned the adventure model. It is noticeably easier to live with day in and day out.
Thanks saved me of watching the whole video. Still a great video with very detailed spec comparison.
Well said! I do think that the Adventure may be significantly more versatile because of the fuel tank think. Wind protection may differ market to market though. Except for the deflectors which are for sure a great addition to the Adventure. Likely also the larger fuel tank contributes to more protection too. Thanks for sharing!
Greetings from Spain.
I also own a f850 GS Adv. Kalamata. The use that I give it is exclusive for the road. I totally agree. In addition to the capacity of the gasoline tank, which offers more autonomy, it also offers protection that the 850 GS does not.
I took the motorcycle from the dealership on January 7, ´21, with a temperature of 4ºC. My motorcycle clothing was a Reevit jacket, a helmet and some jeans. And I did not have cold legs due to the protection of the tank.
What I did was put another windshiell on it for greater protection on the helmet and upper body for speeds greater than 100 km / h.
Cant you put the same wind protection in the simple gs?
I had GSA and now I have GS, the difference is enormous on weight, engine heat and wind deflection. I sold GSA because it is so damn hot for Brazilian roads. And I bought the normal GS and loved the weight reduction, it is a very big difference
Interesting, I wonder what could impact the heat. Were they the same models or the same model years of a GS?
@@VToldsMotoShow the fairings! Adv versions both 850 and 1250 they make fairing to not come wind to legs, which is good in the winter but terrible in the summer. Both were 2019
I bought a 750GS. I didn't see the need to go spending an extra 3-4 thousand u.s. dollars for a bike that is essentially the same thing. Plus I was upgrading from the 310GS.
Yeah, the value for money factor is often out there - right. I guess that we all have our definition of it to stick to out there. That's why BMW offers the 750 and 850 and they keep them in the lineup - it means that there are many of us who look at it like you. Thanks for sharing!
I got the 850GS instead of the Adventure model as I moved down from a Yamaha Super Tenere. For me it was all about the weight. The F850 GSA is still heavy. The smaller fuel tank isn't an issue. I ride in Europe and there are petrol stations everywhere. The range on a full tank is more than 300Kms so fuel stops are welcome after a longish ride. I don't have a pillion issue as my partner rides too... So weight saving is king... Nice, light and maneuverable. Fits the bill perfectly. Don't miss the extra protection the GSA tank gives. We have a very mild climate in the Mediterranean and our winters are light. Most of our touring is done from March till October... Good weather and not much rain. Changed the Screen to an MRA Vario touring screen and it's perfect.
Light winters sound especially exciting to me. I'm not kidding. One and the same continent and such differences. Here there are basically 6 months of winter. About the Super Tenere, well, I've tried that and even though it seemed fine, the number one thing I remember is that my knees were getting hurt after sliding forward and pressing them against parts of the fairings. But I still wonder why Yamaha decided to discontinue it. Anyway, I'm glad that you're happy with your F850GS and good luck with it!
@@VToldsMotoShow Spent 30K Kms in the Super Tenere saddle and never had issues with the fairing (what fairing? ) and it's been the most comfortable bike i've ever had... Even more than my BMW RT after 5 hour rides. Still the more I ride the 850 the more I love it.
That’s great information, we appreciate your hard work
Thanks!
Amazing review 🙌🏼
Thank you so much bro!!!
I'm glad you liked it!
Good vid. Liked that you pointed out difference in seat height could be very relevant for some to push the decision to adv version. And the extra wind deflectors. Those are huge to me.
I'm glad you found the video useful and thanks for sharing, I appreciate it.
Well... nicely said, but on another hand 800 or 850 GSA? I have to say that after 2 weeks on 850GSA I return with a big smile on my face to my slighltly tuned 800 GSA. ( wind buff eliminated and decat + air temp cheet)
Honestly saying, I truly enjoyed the 800/800 Adventure. The 850 was fine but I believe that the suspension may not necessarily be better. I was feeling crazily excited when on the previous generation, so the 800. Now after riding the 850 it was fine, but I wouldn't wait in excitement to ride it again.
Well done, enjoyed it as usual. The weight difference is really considerable - GSA 248kg (almost as much as R1250GS!) vs GS 233kg. As weight of an additional petrol is only 6kg (8 litres x 0.75kg) it gives 9kg for other stuff (fairing, protective bars, etc.). What is the wind protection on F850GS - legs, shoulders & head areas?
I'm glad you liked the video. Wind protection isn't great nor bad. There are not noticeable turbulences which is good but I'd say forget any significant protection in the shoulders and legs area. Head is fine but I myself would replace the windshield with a taller, aftermarket one anyway, even riding mostly in the city, to gain more flexibility with it. Since there are so many aftermarket options, there likely is something for everyone on F850GS/GSA.
1250 GSA 268 KG
@@TakToJsmeMy but I meant F850GSA which weighs almost as much as standard R1250GS (1kg difference) and is far less powerful…
@@molward I understood that, but if I did, I would compare the standard version and the adventure version separately .. Well, of course, it's clear that the performance is completely elsewhere ..
@@TakToJsmeMy the point I wanted to make is that 248kg for middle class adventure bike is way too much considering that a standard bigger brother is about the same weight. I didn’t want to compare GS vs. GSA as the whole film is about it.
Hi, a beautiful and specific video, thank you. I purchased this bike two days ago. and I'm waiting for it, I read and I hear that the engine is not good because it is Chinese. what can you tell me? Thank you
Thanks and I'm happy that you like the video. I wouldn't care where the engine is from or where it is assembled. iPhone is also made in China just like so many other low and high tech stuff. Don't worry about that. It only matters how it rides and if it suits your style.
@@VToldsMotoShow thank you
Thank you for your review, I would think about Adventure option bigger tank capacity longer jorneys.
Yup, for long trips that can be an advantage.
What are the variants available for the 850gsa?
The differences about BMW F850GS Rallye and BMW F850GS Tropy?
I bought the GS Adventure back in 2020 nearly 19,000 miles on it now trouble free great on our motorways a little bit heavy off road but I learned to only fill the tank half full otherwise cannot fault it plus the bonus is it’s out of warranty now and I service it myself saving loads of money that bmw make off you servicing it the only time it will go back to bmw is for the value shims to be done cost of £500 with a service which comes with the shims being done I average 65 mpg on motorways and anything up 78 mpg on A & B roads so very engine for the size of the bike
Suspension spring rate may differ between Std and Adventure 🤷🏼♂️
But does it? I don't think so.
@@VToldsMotoShow if you really want to know. Phone BMW technical helpline. I have just got F850GS Sport 2021 model
I heard that adventure is stiffer in front
I liked the video. Funny thing I'm in the market for one of these types of bikes,and like the 850. I have been looking,and just saw there was two,and then as fate would have it ran across your video. I don't know why BMW would build two bikes so close to each other.
I agree - normally manufacturers do work on different suspension setup at least. Heck, BMW does that with R1250GS series but somehow here they've done nothing really significant. Maybe the next generation will introduce some more changes like other manufacturers have in this segment with their models.
What a wonderful bike
Thanks for detailed informations
You're welcome!
Great Video,
i feel like you helped a lot of people here.
One thought I had is that you could just take extra fuel with you on the non adventure GS.
This way you can go on every adventure the GSA could but don't have to carry the extra weight around on a daily 15min commute.
Does anybody actually do this?
thanks, I'm happy that you liked the video and yes, I saw a guy who has done that fuel trick on an Africa Twin right here at this specific time frame - just click the link: th-cam.com/video/2VBrdsn2Uk0/w-d-xo.html
What is strange to me is that the f850 gs/a is almost the same weight as the 1250! This seems absurd to me.
Right, perhaps the largest influence is there in the size of their engines and weight of additional equipment.
i own the f800gsa 14 i believe the f800 have more character than f850gs/gsa , the f850 is more complete bike (better on road for sure )but its not worth the upgrade for me for just electronics and 10+ hp (which with ecu remap i can get it ) . Finally i think its to expensive for that u get (loncin engine for cheaper deal and u pay 18k € for full extra without 3 cases ),the competition have better choises .Before 10 years bmw keep alive the category of 2 cylinder mid on/off and now presents the f850 with similar weight as 1250gs .
That's an interesting opinion. I've got to say that if I had the 800, I'd also not be looking at the 850. Especially if you've got the "more legendary" Adventure in the name of it. If I'm right about the suspension's feeling of comfort in the 800 vs 850, I'd consider the 800 a much more appealing motorcycle if you've got one. I'd have to ride them both one right after the other to be 100% sure about the difference in favor of 800 being that big, but nonetheless I'm convinced that I enjoyed it more. And that's not a pattern with BMW as for example I like the newer S1000XR more than the previous one, and the same applies to R1200GS and R1250GS. I enjoy the 1250 more. This makes me believe that the 800 really grabbed my heart easier than the current 850. All the best with your GS!
@@VToldsMotoShow definitely a downgrade the 850 over the 800. More weight. Less suspension travel. The extra 9hp probably doesn't even make up for the extra 15kgs and a smaller fuel tank. Some say the 800 is smoother in the lower rpm range. I know it gets real buzzy 5k>
I very very love your bike info and details knowledge so love your philosophy because I'm bike lover
Thanks, I love them too. I'm glad that you enjoy the information in the videos. Some of them are really interesting and not many people know them.
@@VToldsMotoShow thanks dear
Confusing video! Lol 😆 btw I am a BMW owner 310GS
Why confusing? Some data provided by BMW is confusing yet knowing that may make you pay attention to thet and investigate further if you care about those things. Other than that, it was supposed to be rather listing and explaining the differences, so sorry if there was too much complaining about BMW and their inconsistence in providing official information :)
i own both and love them equal
Now that's an interesting setup then!
Sometimes you talk fast and with your accent it sounds like Vulcan, lol. Not Kawasaki.
Wait, when?!
They both got terrible suspension