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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.พ. 2024
- I guide you in THE FINALS on the upcoming season releasing in less than 30 days, give my review on Season 1 and discuss changes that I wish to see coming shortly in the game.
Please help support me by simply liking and commenting your thoughts, so that we can all grow together as we drift into Season 2 for THE FINALS!
Thanks for watching as always, I appreciate all of you being here!
#thefinals #thefinalstips #thefinalsreview - เกม
return?? I never left! this game is great! I wish more people played it
AYYY shoutout to the loyal players! I think there will be a boom in Season 2, more players will be convinced over, and then it will drop but slowly rise over the seasons then on as they add stuff into the game!
@@THiiXY im pretty hopefully about what the next season will bring as well. I know nexon isnt going to let this game's potential go to waste so I dont mind the small player base right now. its kinda cool to run into the same people
Yup, never stopped playing. Love this game, I’m still trash but I enjoy how EVERY game you play can be so drastically different.
I forgot that a lot if not most players play for an extended amount of hours…everyday, no wonder they get bored within a month let alone 2
Same here. I feel like as soon as i join a ranked tournament i only get crazy sweats. Feels like there are no people on bronze playing ranked 😂 feels like joining diamond lobbies right away
I think that if they didn’t let you win cashout last second there would be literally no point of your team staying in game. The fact that you can still be in the game till the last few seconds is so fun
That's a good point. It maybe a better a feature of ranked comp while leaving norm comp and casual as is
@@notapplicable7633 agreed !
Yeah I think you raise a really good point, I want to keep the casual experience as it is and I'd hate for it to change to be more sweaty etc so I 100% agree, I'll make an update video too before S2 :)
@@THiiXY awesome 😎
That’s a very good point, 100% agree with this.
Something I notice with so many small creators is that they don't have any narrative or conclusion. HOWEVER, you smashed it mate, great vid.
Hey thank you so much for the feedback, I've recently been studying on improving my videos and that's actually a great point that I need to add in more of my videos as well, I appreciate you!
Yeah, true. I don't think this game needs a story in a classical sense, but leaning into the gameshow vibe might bring some awesome backdrop. Since they use AI announcers they could make automatically tailored recaps for your season or make a metagame about acquiring sponsorships.
Much potential IMO
I believe Embark understands that season 2 needs to SLAP to solidify this game. Marketing is gonna go way up. Absolutely love this game.
The finals is a fairly interesting game, it has alot of potential, as time goes by the devs seem to be working very well to make it a positive experience for everyone.
I remember when Thiix showed me the game and i played for the first time it felt like i was in a movie, watching everything blow up around me and those first akm shots do hit different for sure.
Im hopefull that it keeps walking in this direction.
Great vid Thix, keep it up.
Ty king, let's see what they do for Season 2
I jumped in the game mid January and been pretty hooked, in my opinion I think it needs 4’s, and duos. Even a few more game modes that catches interest to all players. Rank mode is fun quick play is really fun, and I think if they tweak the builds a little bit to a fine tune everyone would fall in love with the game. Be patient and this game could prosper!
Thanks for the comment! I 100% agree with you, when I showed this game to my friends, they really enjoyed it but felt that it needed some more gamemodes as well. Another point is that we used to play as a 5, so for a period of time, we would have two calls, one for a 3 stack and one for a duo so I can completely relate to you with a mode to include more players, would be fun.
No 4’s!! its alteady a mess with Trios and so many abilities and gadjets
@@r0yalr0sePT simply don't play it then
@@r0yalr0sePT you don't have to play the 4v4 game mode if they came out with one
Quality breakdown and content! Thanks for the feedback and putting this together, very valuable.
And thank you for the awesome comment, it's the motivation to keep me pushing for more content :D
Very thorough video, thank you sir!! I only started playing midway through S1 so it's nice hearing from someone with more exposure give context on the state of the game.
Appreciate you!!!
No worries, my goal is to show as many people this game as I can! Hopefully you're gonna stick around for Season 2 as I know that you'll be impressed :D
@@THiiXY yessir, we're sticking around for the next one for sure, excited to see the progression :)
Sick video, cant believe i havent seen your content yet ill definitely be binging your content
I definitely think the Finals needs bigger team modes. The problem is when we play games with friends, there’s usually more than 3 people on, so we play a different game. The more I think about it, the more I see Overwatch’s gamemodes translating pretty well to The Finals. “Cart” from Team Fortress 2/Overwatch, would be perfect in a 6v6 for this game. KOTH, Domination, Push(OW2). They all work because this is a “hero” based shooter. Even some PvE mixed objective modes would be amazing too. It could steal the thunder of so many other games, I hope you add this on to the devs and this is thought about.
Also, Embarks own take on killstreaks might be great! Maybe “Cashout Streaks”, the more you cashout, the more streaks you unlock, that you could call down and have them be very similar to Map Events, not too overpowered. This I feel less strongly about though 🤷♂️
Honestly, I believe that you can actually look forward to something like that, it's something they will very likely concider. It would be crazy even if that was the full direction they went, but for now hang in there. I've had a few instances where we've had to split parties because there's like 5 of us which kinda sucks so I agree with you 100%.
@@THiiXY Great, I'm glad to hear your opinion on that
I feel like this game could do with search and destroy and tm but most importantly a forge/creative mode would be vital for the games mass appeal
Ye a 4v4v4 will be cool but caotic
With how small the dev team is (this is good bc updates come out quicker), I can 1000% see this in the future, I cannot wait
haven't even watched it, greatest vid I've ever watched
edit: I rest my case
AYYY Thank you so much, I've got a lot of work to still do as a creator, but I've adjusted and improved a lot since my last other videos, people like you are the reason I make these!
brilliant take!! incremental cashouts sound like a good idea as long as the maths is easy to do on the fly. thank you for providing a fresh reliable perspective
Wait I just realised I failed maths twice... might have to buy a calculator hahaha
@@THiiXY I also would like to ask about Arc Raiders - why do you think that they decided to switch the game around? The original trailer gives me chills and even made me cry the first time I saw it - now it's just an extraction shooter. whatever happened to PvE looter?
enlist. resist.
what could have been? do you think that Embark will cancel it, or even make a U-turn? I hope they don't release it like this, it will crash and burn
thanks thiix♡
ps. composer appreciation, THE FINALS' s soundtrack is a banger
Yeah I'm so excited for Arc Raiders but I completely agree with you that it being an extraction shooter will be frustrating.
This is actually why I thought THE FINALS would be competitive, because you have that beautiful mix of sweaty gameplay in the arena, mixed with a really nice chilled out Arc Raiders experience (and I'd just rotate between the two games forever ahaha).
I'm saving some points for a video on Arc Raiders at some point, but I'll get that question for you by the time I make the video from them, really good pointers you've made!
Nice video man. I watched over 100 finals video and after 100 videos TH-cam recommended you. Keep up the good work!
Let's goooooo! Thank you for watching!
Great content! Thorough analysis and insights, good narrative structure, appropriate speed and a topic that suits my interest!
Ayy thank you for the great feedback, I put some effort into this and it’s awesome to hear approval of it! :)
Honestly with your idea for the cashouts and some balancing changes to the builds i could really see The Finals have an amazing competitive future.
I would love to go and watch finals esports on stage one day and hearing those recent rumors about Embark having a back and forth talk with scrim organizers (cant be sure if this is legit as the tweets and articles got deleted) really gets me hyped up af!
Good job on the vid and keep up the great content!
Thanks for watching and I'd be super excited to see that pan out in the future too, I'm not saying it will happen overnight, but we at least want something in regards to community competitive (such as custom lobbies) to test out those early stages.
Yes let’s make another overwatch clone cuz they have such a great competitive scene
@@jacobpinson2834 Might be an unpopular opinion but i actually enjoyed OW competitive in the early days, before they ruined it with a single annoying meta that lasted for years.
The fact that embark actually nerfed nukes a bit after everybody started abusing them gives me hope the same wont happen with the finals. Still too early to tell though
I really like your idea about the cashout. You explain my frustrations of losing last second after defending the whole time, perfectly!
Great videos by the way. always love the content you create.
Ayy thank you so much for watching and giving feedback! Appreciate you :)
Another great video! It's definitely got me thinking about some new directions the game could take. And, thanks for the shoutout!
One of the greats in this community, thanks Rockhound!
First off, great video!!
The thing that fruatrates me the most in the Finals is a very specific situation. When my team has a chashout going and we are defending but we get third-partied. this on its own is already fruatrating enough but i get it. i too sometimes decide to not go to the cashout i spawn near to. reason may be a hard spot of the cashout to take over or a good team defending it. but the moment i get team whiped from a third party and they are still busy fighting eachother, but me and my team respawn on the other cashout, since there are two teams fighting for our cashout. this is one of the most tilting things i've experienced in my gaming history ngl because not only am getting third-partied i also get respawned so that i am in a position the third party dodged earlier and i am unable to defend my cashout.
10000% I actually had a scenario where there was a third party over our cashout, I coined in just before my team got wiped and I spawned at the OTHER SIDE of the map, even though we still had the cashout, and I would have stopped it! I think they know about this and will look into it eventually but I’m on your side with that one
I think this game will be huge in the long term, i havent played a shooter i enjoy as much as this in a really long time, i could see the skill floor being a tad high for new players, but the gun game is so good in this that you can succeed with just that, cant wait to see what they do with this game got 200 hours on it so far and still love it every time, i think the light class needs SOMETHING like its the only class that can just randomly die which feels bad but makes sense due to the glass canon aspect, keep up the great work on videos man and we will keep tuning in!
Ayy thank you for the kind words! Yeah I completely agree with you, I understand that light at it's core is a "high risk, high reward" but that doesn't mean you have to make light like that. Players currently in ranked see light as a troll pick, and I think that in the right team (with comms) and the right changes, light can step back into the conversation. This is a brilliant game for sure, that new movie like feeling you get in this game is unmatched the first time you play. I hope that casual players can still have fun over time in the casual modes, and it's not filled with sweaty strats because those players mean a lot to the game as well, and sometimes I like to just chill out and mess around :)
yeah man i really couldnt believe how great the game looked and felt the first time i hopped on i was blown away, and yeah in ranked it does feel like that, i have had teammates who are crazy good with light and can get enough kills to make up for the lack of everything else, but also if you ever wanna game sometime lmk man im looking for people to do some ranked with@@THiiXY
bro the concept for the store layout is fireeeee, keep up these videos!
Thank you! I decided to go pretty high effort and it did take some time to create the graphics like the store haha
Amazing video bro, I think I agree with about everything you say!
Thank you for the kind words and I appreciate you watching!!
I play my very first match earlier & it was fun even though I was getting smoked. Towards the end I did start to get an idea of what to do. Would love to see the game grow
Ayyy that's great! Yeah this game is a lot better with a team (supporting etc) and has a bit of a skill gap, but as long as you're having fun that's the point :) I think the game will grow, these things, especially with F2P takes some time
Good vid bro, i hope our beloved game will grow and we'll see amazing things
Thanks for watching! For sure, I'm excited to see the direction for Season 2!!
Very nice analysis and production quality
Ayy thank you so much, I put a lot of effort into this so hearing the feedback really is appreciated!!
I agree with them coming up with a revised system for cash out. It can be epic sometimes managing to steal that cashout at the last second and winning the match but ultimately having to defend one for so long and getting nothing out of can be quite frustrating
1000% in the tests and as a new player, it was fun. That honeymoon period is over now and people are starting to realise "wait, but what if we get third partied" for example. Interesting to see what they do!
Thats the fun of the game. You dont need to own it for all the time. You just need to own it at the last second. This is a mechanic that actually makes the game fun. Even if you have a bad team, everyone can still qualify even if they are doing very bad for the intire game. If it was not like that and the game got more predictable, alot would start to disconnect early game
@@r0yalr0sePT exactly!
Love the content. I hope to see this game thrive it’s been my favorite game to stream and get better at.
Ayy awesome, yeah streaming wise I think this game is really entertaining to watch too, glad you're enjoying it and hope to see you in Season 2 :)
I think the season was fun no other seasons to compare it to but the battle pass was enjoyable to unlock and I like how they did the starter pack also I like how we have a separate leveling system for other items and I enjoy the random events that just gave free stuff I didn’t like the lights out mode but think it would be fun as all mediums or lights also I think we need more weapons for every class
100% this was a great debut season for them, we now have a base and something to compare to in the future, and honestly I really believe it's only up from here. They will almost 100% make medium and light temporary game modes, I think most of what they've been doing are actually secret stress-tests for other modes to come? Just my thoughts. Great comment, I appreciate you watching!
grea, great vid buddy, congratulations.
Thank you for watching, appreciate it! :D
This game has such a bright future ahead , we just started at december 2023 .... im super excited for season 2 and ofc new battlepass :D. I completed the first one in like 14 days
14 days!? Damn ahaha yeah the future is definitely bright indeed, they have more than enough support behind them, keep doing what they are doing and the benefits will continue to come.
Been playing since day one and still do regularly. Its my favorite shooter right now
The best way to make light more viable is to add more utility like the vanish bomb that can be used solo and in team scenarios, something like a stim that gives a speed boost and a heal/max health boost by 50 or something would really help team pushes and prepare for defending the cash out, eg heavy becomes as fast as medium if hit by the stim and gets 50 additional max health or a 50hp heal if below max health.
Solo queue with light in rank is a pain. No matter how many kills they have, they are way un-supportive to the team and leave teammate 2 vs 3 with other team, they love chasing enermies and interrupting them but its only work when there is only 1 team attacks the cashout. Sometimes, they died far away from the team and teammates have to suffer againts enemies till they respawn. Light is not the problem, the problem is from the people who play Light. Light really is the hardest to play.
@@KatodeDevilus ok I main light and I’m frequently last to die, and do steal denies, the main problem with light is most of the util they have is selfish and for your own kills rather that the teams benefit, think of stuff like the defibrillator and shields that bring a lot to the table, light just don’t have anything like that.
And I’m not taking a jab at you believe me but if you get players that run away and keep losing, it’s either in casual or low elo, people can play light well, I’m also not an invis stungun mp5 player who just runs around for easy kills, I run throwing knives dash and always try to use my vanish bomb on my teammates.
🤔 never thought about reworking the cashout but you're right, sometimes you get punished by doing a good work defending the box. One thing they could do is securing cash as time goes on, that way defending the box becomes more important, though that could be a problem in itself, the other option I thought about was, if a player starts a steal and dies or stops part of the money gets automatically secured for the team that owns it, still giving the chance to get the rest of the money on a successful steal but still rewarding good defense. Great video, I'll subscribe.
Yeah 100% I'm not saying my scenario is THE idea, it was just my concept. I think your points are good too because it adds that dynamic of rewarding you for actually holding, at the same time you can balance the third party fights out and still take that risk. Appreciate you watching!!
I 100% agree with the cashout situation you've stated. I've been feeling that way since day 1 of the game. I hate how My team and I can defend a cashout till the last second that matters and they end up getting it like .25 seconds away from it cashing out. I get that they deserve some-half of it but not all of it.
100% there's nothing more unmotivating right now knowing that you've defended well, but potentially another team comes in at the same time you're fighting and just takes it out, no skill just gadgets & time. I understand if I lose a cashout fairly and completely understand that but I think players will generally have a better time, and this will make fights more valued as wiping could set you back if you're attacking/defending.
I really like the idea for tweaking the cashouts. I think the last second chaos of deciding what your sometimes only win condition may be when down in a map is a big part of the game. But maybe if during the depositing you were slowly being trickled the first 50% of the cashout, then got the final 50% all as a lump sum it would fulfill both game designs.
Love the game even though I’m playing less waiting for season 2. Great video!
Yeah I think a lot of people are waiting to see what Season 2 brings, thanks for watching!
Just started playing this week and got like 3 other friends to start; they all love it. Its the only competitive fps weve played in awhile
Part of the strategy is picking points that are less likely to get third partied and taking advantage of the timers and player psychology. Sure it sucks to get third partied or defend against 2 teams but you also have the added advantage of those teams also fighting each other. Sometimes you can just sit in the cashout and the two teams outside kill eachother and you don't have to do anything. Defenders already have a very strong advantage with hit and run tactics and zone denials.
Many valid points here. I'm a ranked grinder and I kinda wanna see a re-work for the Final round. You either get stomped or you stomp one side and turns in to a lesser experience. Don't get me wrong, I love playing tournaments and the journey to get to the Final is awesome but when you get there, it kinda fizzles out!
Yeah for sure, I would be excited to see how they adjust the tournament experience for the player aha
I liked that last idea with the cashout ! maybe there should be a set % saved for the team who finishes with it and the rest will be divided by time held.
And maybe and thats my take, give a faster cooldowns near cashouts or have a button you can press to recharge all cooldowns for 1 player, and said button will have a cooldown too, and a distinct sound that will alert everyone in the area maybe even an announcement
That way if you can defent/take the cashout youll have a slight chance with third partys.
100% I agree with you. I'm not saying my suggestion is the absolute final thing, it was just an idea but things as you mentioned can also be a cool alternative too!
i think i interesting idea that could be done with the maps is with the hacker lore going on maybe if your playing on a map and at halftime the map suddenly glitches out and the announcers will try and play it off as intended but there is like missing texture on some buildings and maybe some random holes that you could fall through
im almost done with the battle pass so i might take a break after but the one thing that'd keep me hooked is expanding on weapon masterys, not adding more levels but making challenges for example you get 10k weapon xp for every 100 kills or custom challenges like no scopes with the sniper or back staps with the dagger.
i used to play rogue company which had a weapon mastery that takes about 2-3 months to complete normally and i completed it 5 times, everytime i complete every gun on an account i make a new one and start over
Oh damn that's actually a really cool idea, or even something like (strictly cosmetic) attachments like lazers/flashlights, foregrips etc. I know they have the mastery skins from playing with the item, but yeah something like attachments would be kinda cool, again purely cosmetic.
@@THiiXY absolutely, im a kind of person to use a gun only because i have cool skin for it, i want an ultimate goal to grind for after mastering every weapon/gadget/ability like a really cool (ideally customizable) weapon skin but they gotta make them a bit easier, 100+ hours into the game and my highest level thing is a lvl 3 healing beam lol
Yeah exactly and a huge point you mentioned was customizable, they've done a great job with allowing this for characters (choosing hats, eyes, hair etc) but expanding on this in the weapon department would actually be really cool too.
great video man
Thanks for watching, appreciate you!
This was a fair assessment on what has happened in S1, and I think as a community we should remain optimistic and patient for future seasons. Custom Matches and a Ranked overhaul will definitely put THE FINALS in another level, and I think Embark has proven that they do listen to their audience. Let’s hope for the best and keep having fun in the meantime - thanks for the shoutout!
100% you're welcome and thank you for being a vital part of the community! Looking forward to more breakdowns :D
I feel like even if they didn’t want to change the way chashouts work like giving percentages of the money for holding the objective they could possibly change it so when you’re capturing the objective the timer stops, which could make getting third parties right at the end less annoying as you’d be able to quickly run over attempt a team wipe and then capture it from the other team without having to worry about “if we don’t capture it within these last 10 seconds we’re just not going to be able to capture it at all”
Would like to hear your thoughts on this as this may be more realistic than completely re-hauling how the capture system works
Bro, the way you addressed and analysed those 3 points, you nailed it. Devs must take your advice.
You're spot on with so many things we rant about this game. 'Light' must be changed, we shit on lights in reddit. Lights have their own limitations and don't add much to the team compared to medium and heavy that's why everyone hates lights who solo qs.
You're right about cashout, most of the time my team argues that it's waste of time to open the vault and start the cashout. Instead avoid the fight and steal at last moment will benefit us😂.
It's definitely a team strategy game. New players must spend good time to understand the game and weapons when they solo q but meanwhile they may get frustrated and don't touch the game again.
Forget the new changes, this game infested with so many bugs rn. They have to fix on them first specially matchmaking.
Edit: Forgot to say, I might have watched a ton of videos on this game but this the best video I've seen in Finals. Subbed :)
Ayy thank you so much, honestly it's been quite a time consumer replying to comments but people like you are the reason why I make videos and reply to as many people as I can so thank you :)
Yeah exactly that, I actually have a strat with my friends were we go 2x heavies shotgun 2x dome shields and 1 heavy to steal cashout, we don't even fight just run in last second and steal LOL
For sure, I think as players adapt, people won't need to do a lot of the cheese stuff we are seeing now (because it is more optimal to be in sync with your team) but yeah I'd really like to see the game be stable (not talking meta etc I'm talking them damn bugs lol) exactly as you said where they hone in on the fixes first before we can even go the competitive route.
Appreciate you a tonne and welcome to THE PODIUM :)
I first thought that it should stay a usp from the game that you can get 100% of the cash even if you steal last secound but i think 20-25% from the cash for defending 75% of the time is a very good balance. The problem is that sometimes you get Teamwiped and the Cashout has 50-40% left but the other teams fight and hold each other back from stealing for so long that you lose the cashout at 99% so you get cash for defending 99% of the time but you already died at 50%... it could be a solution that the team gets the cash for defending not for the time they own the cashout but for the time they are alive and own the cashout. Or you could do something like a king of the hill principle. Like as long as the team that owns the cashout isnt too far away it counts as defending it and you get the cash for the time you defended it when you lose the Cashout. You could also divide the time that the cashout takes into, for example, 4 parts and if you own the cashout at the end of a segment you get the corresponding money, for example after the first 3 segments 10-15% of the money each. Then the effect that you can steal at the last second and get everything would still apply to the individual segments and if you only get the last one there would still be 55-70% left.
Sorry for my bad English I hope you understand my point... (Last two sentences are google translate xD)
Finally a video with actual substance, conclusion and feedback. Other channels say literally nothing for 15 mins and provide zero insight, it's legit infuriating to watch. Good job. What's your take on overtime? For me, this game will never ever be able to rival CoD or Apex without overtime. If you're defending for ages and get wiped out in the last 30s, there's legit no reason to even try to steal. For me, it's the most annoying thing about this game. You should be able to trigger overtime if you start the cashout right before the end.
Ayy appreciate you, thanks for the kind words! 100% I think as well for teams that do pretty well, they can literally just go AFK for the rest of the game, but I notice that sometimes they send two players in to troll the last cashout (sometimes making it a 3v3v3v2) which is wild in ranked. Casually I get it, it's a fun scenario to mess around in but I'm with you on that, I'd like to see if they have some alternative or adjustments to it.
I honestly haven't played a "new" game in years ! Been playing Fortnite and NBA 2k. But this game has me hooked for some reason ! I like playing with friends and like watching / learning from videos like this !
Yeah the learning in this game is really fun, especially because there's so many styles that you can play this game as well, sure some times it's annoying but a lot of the enjoyment in this game is really in the uniqueness of it.
But to buy cosmetic you could just buy them from the style customization in weapons and skins…..you do have a point on the cash out happen to me just yesterday my team defended it like 75percent and it got stolen 😭. Thank you bro appreciate ur vids
Yeah with customisation I mean that you can still buy it whenever you want (so its not VALORANT exclusive just the style) it’s just the skins below are discounted for people if they wanted to have a deal or something
Also thanks for watching!!
The cashout idea is a very good one!
It's a unique take, doesn't mean that it should be that exact way, maybe buffs instead?
great vid, agreed with everything....
Ayyy thank you so much for watching :)
This game is awesome! Loving it so far and hoping new modes/maps/tech can keep up with the demand
Ayy glad you’re having a blast! For sure and I think the devs have the experience to deliver that for us! Appreciate you watching :)
Love the Game, its actually what I've been wanting subconciously for Years:
• Destruction like Battlefield (topped that by a LOT)
• Quick and precise shooting
• Cooperation and Tactics required to win
• Versatile Classes (but not like a Hero-Shooter) that make every Game different
• Not to realistic but also not to unrealistic (they nailed that with it being a VR-Gameshow)
The Finals made me engage with, like I haven't with other Games in a long Time and I'm thrilled to whats to come 💚✌️
For some possible Improvement-Ideas:
• Maybe this is too far out, but maybe give each Classability a passive Ability, that makes them more defined.
For Example, equipping the Healbeam could make you regnerate HP at a higher Rate, the Cloak could make you revive faster and the GOO-Gun could make you destroy GOO faster, this would encourage some more varied Playstyles and would help out with better Teamplay IMO
Ooooh okay yeah so passive abilities actually sounds like a cool twist, it would open a can of worms again for balance but I'm down to see what they do with that, great idea! Also you're completely right, in the early days of me playing it literally felt like I was competing myself, the game with the crowd etc was so immersive haha
Personally i've had a lot of fun playing it. However i wish the devs would have release a little bit of new content halfway through the season as i think the bug fixes and blance changes really wont cut it. I do think embark noticed this which is why they release solo mode and more recently the event modes/contracts. I just would've liked to see a new gear or weapon halfway through.
In the next season all i want are custom games/tournaments.
Yeah 1000% but I do think that they are at the stage where they want to test out the games standard shelf life (if that makes sense) where games such as CS for example gets huge updates when they are ready. I agree with you too, I'm not saying that we don't appreciate the content they do, but I'd rather be in a place where there are multiple things to do rather than one/two gamemodes.
@@THiiXY good points! 100% agree
I think we got alot of content during the season. We had the solo mode as mentioned. Steal the spotlight event. Update 1,5 and 1,6 and 1,7. We just got the Valentines event. In my opinion this game gives more mid season content than other games.
I think the idea for sharing a cashouts payout for time defended is an amazing idea and I would love to see something like that to help alleviate that almost blueball level of frustration
Yeah it's going to help with a lot in the game too, including the end game where a lot of teams just stay alive because they are already top or troll the last cashout ahaha
A lot of players dont know this but you can buy any skin that is not in the store anymore through the equipment menu
Yeah that’s a great point! In this vid when I said I wanted it to be like VALORANT I was talking about the fact you can buy any item within a bundle, not the limited stuff.
Coming from TF2 and never playing ranked in any games I’ve played that have it, it’s the game itself that keeps me coming back. Having said that more maps and halftime events would be extremely welcoming next season.
Yeah the game just playing casually is really really fun, sometimes I forget how much fun it is just messing around and that's something I'll never want to take away from the community, casual matters too!!
Me and my friend play alot and we can never find a 3rd. It would be cool if they put a duos mode. Also, it’d be really cool for just a 3v3 on a smaller map with the same revive physics and 2 cashouts 1 vault. like search and destroy. i feel like it would be killer for new people
Great vid
Thank you so much for the kind words!!
Totally agree about receiving 25-50% of the cash out depending on how long you hold it. Would make the game so much better!
Yeah I mean something along those lines, I just think in ranked it will help a lot of the frustration experienced.
@@THiiXY I think it’s a great solve
This will seem like a random analogy, but in NASCAR, there are stages of the race you can win points at on the way to the final checkered flag. The 3rd party problem and the dynamics it introduces into tournaments' 3v3v3v3 I've seen others talk about would be helped by something like your suggestion. Whichever team is in control of the cashout gets to slowly extract money, perhaps at 25, 50, and 75 percent of the way through a cashout, with a lump sum at 100% right at the end. Devs could play around with the balance, but I'm guessing this is basically the mechanism you are suggesting, for instance, if the reward was half the original $ to the team holding it right at the end, but half to a team that could hold and defended it at each of the other dividend or withdrawal points. Anyway, your suggestion seems like a good idea to me.
Yeah exactly, I think that this is just a starting point, doesn't have to be my suggestion 100% but along the lines or maybe even buffs or something like that.
They have shown they can launch short timed events(solo bankit) to test some features. In that way they can test that cashout stealing 3d party fix u suggested. I would also like to play a gamemode with one unlimited cashout and like 3+ teams where we get points every second for holding cashout. So no real stealing, just get N amount of points by being king of the hill.This gamemode would also be very intense and interesting to try.
Ooo yeah a KOTH style would actually be very cool, something unique for sure. Yeah these limited events are interesting because they could arguably be disguised as tests as you mentioned. Thanks for watching!!
@@THiiXY Yeah thx for making honestly good content. I have already set my expectations for this game and i am just waiting till they make out some stuff in this way. Hardly want customs yeaaah.. I actually have more compaints about balance in skins and other stuff i cant just remember all the thoughts i had during those 180 hours since lauch. Idk do i even need to try to give those thoughts to devs as guys like u, content creators have much more influence in terms of giving kinda niche thoughts. Cuz like finals discord chat is all about crying and no fair statement could find its place there. But even this place works in some cases. I mean nukes and recon nerfed. The only thing i was asking about is missing heavy attack animation on baseball bat skin for sword which i had in OB. Since this skin was launched im waiting for the fix patiently xD. Overall i am just waiting this game to become better with all that community feedback overtime. They definitely have a lot of content they have not released but shown on vids and arts.
I agree with every point, I hope they see this video
a big area of improvement imo is just bringing the "hype" into the game. like the trailers all project this incredible fantasy of hype and tension and speed, and while you will occasionally get that in a game, stuff like the UI, the announcers, etc really dont convey that same feeling. really hope they get the announcers to actually record some lines from people and not AI since that's such a huge part of carrying the hype, like I wish they'd reference fighting game commentators and pro wrestling commentary, when something big happens you FEEL it in your whole body. likewise with the UI, they need to bring some excitement and speed into the tournament mode, make the brackets crash into each other with an ever-escalating track of music that gets bigger the further you get. there's so much they could add to the drab experience around the genuinely incredible destructive gameplay. love the potential of the finals, and will totally be prepped for competitive when it comes out.
also completely agree with you regarding feedback, I think we just need to create a culture of "some stuff is strong, and that can be frustrating to lose to, but it's not op." people are really getting out of pocket with the requests and I fear for the devs losing their vision of balance. I much prefer focusing on buffing the less-used stuff. I got really sad after the sawed-off nerf since the source of the issue felt more like just cloak being too easy to use
Yeah I've mentioned this a while back in my very old reviews, I think the commentators could use a bit of work, maybe even the crowd cheering louder when a player wipes a team or gets a triple elim for example, cashouts, steals things on that end can improve I agree with your POV. Thanks for watching!
Yeah light got hammered in that department too haha, as mentioned I think they've handled critisism pretty damn well, it's just the case of asking the community if they're unsure. Communication is pretty vital, but they should always stick to their primary vision of the game over what we think as long as there is logic!
A change that embark can do that im not hearing anyone talk about, is having everyone on every single team run 1 LIGHT 1 MEDIUM & 1 HEAVY PER TEAM!! This would make the overall balance of the game so much better. Can you imagine 3 MEDIUMS running guardian turrets or 3 HEAVYS running mesh shield. Absolutely not! This is that change that needs to be made the most in my opinion🤷🏾♀️
What the cashout had a refresh burst for the team defending every quarter? Or third. Heals them up and refreshes abilities. Although it wouldnt work in active combat. Only after a fight is complete.
Yeah that's actually a cool idea, I think there can be other alternatives and I wasn't saying that my way is the only way it can help lol
season 2 of the finals just dropped its wild 🔥
Hell yeaaaaa! Having a tonne of FUN! :D
i’m new to the finals so ig i haven’t left and i love using sword it’s difficult but it reminds me of when i use to learn how to run knife on cod
Yeah melee is super fun, I haven't played it enough so I'll put some time into the sword but welcome to our community, stick around and I promise great things will come to THE FINALS!!
Will we be able to still work on the battle pass when another one is dropped? Joined in late and was having fun until I started to try and grind for the battle pass really killing the enjoyment for me.
Honestly, you still have about a month, I think it's more than enough time, I've seen people play quite a bit and do it in 15 days or so, so halfing that I think you'll be good, just do the daily objectives and weekly objectives, it will stack up a tonne. best of luck!
@@THiiXY I'll give it a try. think it was the daily challenge of winning that was making dislike it. Cause man the moment I wanted to win instead of just playing for fun kicked in i couldn't win a single game soloing XD
This past weekend was my first weekend playing the finals. I honestly felt the game was really balanced and amazing. My only issue would have to be the lack of survive-ability for light considering they have the lowest health. I get their movement is supposed to counteract this issue, which is why it feels so balanced. I would just love to see a small health pack maybe that can be granted to themselves or allies and only heals maybe 50 hp over 5 seconds, maybe even a healing pad or something so your medium isn't always focused so hard and they cannot heal themselves either. Thoughts?
Ayyy welcome to the community! Honestly as long as you're having fun is the main point but yeah they really made light at it's core to be "high risk, high reward" but for sure there's plenty of little adjustments they could make there and there to put light back in the rotation. FYI the reason why light feels this way right now was because light had some really strong combos (invis + shotgun) people were running around wiping lobbies with it so Embark tuned it down a bit, I think your ideas are solid though, because it balances out the explosive damage dealt too which is really high, even faster regen on light would help a little. Thanks for watching!!
@@THiiXY I think a buddy told me about that old meta which definitely would ruin the game for some people! Me included even though I love playing light. But awesome video and I’ll be sure to tune in more as I look forward to playing this game more!
regrinding all the gear previously unlocked is a good way to get anyone with a job and/or social life to quit
the custom tourney idea is great, even a lfg thing or tourney board would be cool
I think embark has a vision that they realize light could potentially be the standout dominant class. That’s why we haven’t seen buffs after all this time of people saying they aren’t viable in top level ranked. It’s very interesting
The data is probably also skewed by the the light class is super popular and super effective throughout the playerbase
I know in my games they are super popular choice. And between movement or invis, with the high damage weapons. They often dominant the lobby with their ability to flank and mow down
However, once you have a heavy with a Lewis gun with the skills of these lights (able to 180 and headshot beam the second after being attacked), suddenly flanking isn’t as powerful as it was at lower/average ranks
Interesting stuff though. I like how embark seems to have their own vision, and they don’t seem too inundated with player complaints, but do take them in I’m sure. Data + pppular demand seems to be a decent strategy for changes to balance. I’ll be interested to see how they try to balance light more into top ranked, if they do
No doubt ranked has been screwy. However it’s kind of nice to not be stuck in ranks so much like usual. But of course that’s the way ranked is supposed to work
Probably their lack of having a quality ranked mode is indicative of that they are focused more on the average player experience over top ranked at this time, is my guess
No good ranked experience makes me love the game but not grind it. I just play it 1 or 2 hours. I would love to have the mental health to grind it more
This is a great reply thank you very much! Yeah I agree with you and forgot to mention about the data side of the game, and what they have, I think it would be really unique to actually see some of the stats they have (that's in depth) so that we can view the overalls. But that's information that they have, which means we should see the bigger picture of the direction they want to go (as you suggested). Thanks for watching!
I love the cashout giving a percentage for how long you hold it. Would be a great change. I think the next most important thing would be to have the ranked matchmaking be based in rank and not a hidden MMR, because right now, ranks do not at all reflect players skill and it doesnt feel like you are progressing. Having a good ranked system would keep a LOT of players around for a long time
Yeah trueee, ranked MM needs a massive overhaul and I think that it's something they are probably working on. People don't mind queuing for a few minutes to get into a good match, I know they want low queue times but that doesn't mean we should match into a diamond/bronze combo ahah
I downloaded The Finals today and I need to say I love it
Ayyyy!!! Glad you enjoyed it, you'll love it even more after Season 2
Oh I'm still here, but yes I'm waiting on S2!!!
Ayy glad you're still enjoying the game, hope to see you in Season 2!! :D
What u talked about at 10:50 about making it so if you hold a cash for 75% of the time you should get 25% of the cash. I agree but there's also the fact that if it ends up actually being a fair 3v3 and the enemy team ends up getting the cash, then you steal some of their cash giving you an unfair advantage. Unless u mean they get the full cash and you also get 25% but still gives a way to cheat some cash if it was a fair 3v3
Maybe there would be a way to do this under a certain condition. Lets say if one or two of your team mates gets killed by the one team but then the last person gets killed by another team you get some of the cash if you held it long enough. Bit farfetched
Yeah it's something that I just know more people will talk about in the future for sure... any alternative honestly, I was just giving suggestions from my idea.
I think a good change for the cash out could be that you gain money while holding the cash out, but there is a bonus for holding the cash out at the end. I think that would be fun
Yeah I think that there's a few alternatives, people were even suggesting buffs which is actually a cool idea
when playing against the dagger:"AYYY THAT KNIFE IS SOO OP IT CAN ONE SHOT"
when playing with the dagger:"AYYY THIS KNIFE IS TRASH IS IMPOSSIBLE TO GET A KILL"
i tried it a bit and i'm sorry for my teamates for getting only 2 kill in a quick match (skill issue).
i love this game and your video, i also bought the pass and i hope embark will not change his price so i can buy the next one with the coin from season 1
Ahahaha I am gonna actually be playing more melee during the end of the season so I'm ready to experience this LOL.
Thanks for being here and watching!
I love this game man. Almost to 💎!
Awesome, you've got this! More than enough time too :)
I love the idea of gaining cash for defending the objective. Maybe 5k is given out based on % of time you defended the cashout and then whoever ends up with it at the end gets the final 5k! Would make the mode way more fun and give me a reason to try and defend the whole time vs treat the mode like team death match until the final 45 seconds to try and steal.
Yeah that's a good point, in the original video I was going to upload, I actually said the moment you deposit, it would start a rolling cashout too ($10,000 starts draining or ticking down) but I think it would then be a bit too chaotic
Yeah nice one. Give “something” to owned it more but almost everything to who own it last second. Thats the fun in the game. Always be able to comeback last second
Just got the game. all I gotta say is. love it and my only concern is more gamemodes and maybe bigger teams maybe like 4 people teams and maybe a new build
Yeah I'm on your side with that one, a new game mode would be really cool, something a little fresh and for sure would be really fun to see how the game plays in like a 4v4v4 or like 5v5 for example, I hope we get to see that!
I actually just got this game a few days ago and it so much fun and great if I’m having a casual gaming night if I want to get mad and competitive I’ll get on siege 😂
Ahahaha, yeah casually this game is so good :)
There was another TH-cam im sorry I can't credit them, but he mentioned cash out should have little checkpoints in the circle where it gives you a portion of the 10,000 so for each checkpoint you could get 2,000 in 5 different checkpoints allowing for comebacks and removing the frustration of losing a cash out the last second which I think its perfect! Let me know if it would work. I just started this weekend lmao
Oh damn you’ve just started at a very good time haha, you are about to see some really cool stuff coming and I hope you have a blast! Yeah I think a slight rework on that aspect would be cool to see honestly because it’s really frustrating loosing a cashout last second to a third party
@THiiXY oh hi! Yeah the game has been the most fun fps I have tried in a while I'm hyped for what's to come!! And yeah cash out needs a little re work but we will see what they do!
So I ran into scenarios where if there are two people and I swing my sledge hammer, it like locks on to one of enemies that moved behind me. So the swing doesn't go where I want.
Yeah they should allow us to disable that locks it’s kind of frustrating haha
10/10 video on a great game.
Ayyy thank you! I tried to put quite a bit of effort into this one to really give back to the community and devs so hearing that you enjoyed it helps a lot! :D
Rewarding players for defending is suuuch a good idea. I hope it reachs the devs
Yesterday I took Diamond 4 as a solo-ranked player...1700 matches, 0.7 kd, 50-60 fps, dont have fps-shooter experience...It was crazy but...I will come in s2😅 Last second retake cashout is the biggest frustration machine in the finals rn, totally agree
p.s. gas grenade instead of dome is interesting, will try it
Ayyy well I hope you're excited for Season 2 then, I think a lot of cool stuff will come! :D
2:14 that got me, i was watching with just subtitles
Ahaha, I wanted to put a decent amount of effort to show people the concept ideas lol (if only!)
I actually miss the first couple of weeks playing this and not feeling like every engagement was my own personal d-day from the monaco rooftops with fcars and lewis guns
Yeah the games definitely gotten more players from better experience and also just improved overall haha
Idea for the cash out. Divide the cashout timer into four segments, each worth $2000, with a $1000 bonus for getting all four. Or maybe $1250 for each bar and $5000 for cashing out the last one.
The frequency of changes is awesome, I’d love to see the rpg restored a little with the destruction of red barrel nerf. Beside dropping the objective it feels unhelpful frequently
If the stun gun ever gets a buff, I’d love if it did melee damage. It would make it combo really well with weapons like the bolts and saber.
The stun gun is a great tool for light that's for sure, funnily enough it's been adjusted and changed so much since it's origin haha
Honestly the game is amazing, the main flaw of this game was the release of Palworld in which took almost everyone in. I hope in the future, more players comeback to this amazingly polished game with live service and also amazing patches almost every week
Yeah actually that's a good point, the competition was crazy during December/January too, I didn't think about that... thanks for watching!!
I think instead of the cashout rework you suggested, they should make it so your team gets a buff of some sort after wiping another team. They could get maybe a team wipe token deal that can be spent on different things- overshield, or maybe invisibility, or maybe the ability to speed up or skip part of the cashout countdown. Perhaps each teammate can do something with these tokens- that way when you get 3rd partied you can spend the token on defense, and if they are far away you can batten down and get ready with it.
Yeah some people have been suggesting a buff in that area, I think it's potentially a better solution too, I don't know I'm just seeing that in the future I can imagine more and more people will also agree that last minute steals are pretty harsh in ranked scenarios against third parties for example.
@@THiiXY but what about when you get those last minute steals. Feels pretty good to me 😂. Especially when you earn it, but I definitely see what your saying. I think luck in games make them more fun I guess.
Yeah you're right, I think 100% they should keep it in casual modes because it can be fun, maybe an adjustment for ranked scenarios? I dunno, just a suggestion anyways I'm still happy with the game :)
Give the team that has an active cashout extra cash for wiping other teams. Like +2000 for a wipe. That might even incentivise a team that is left alone while the others are fighting for another cashout to join the fight.
Dont know if this was suggested already, because there are too many comments about the cashout situation.
Yeah there's been a lot of cool ideas that I'm going to make a follow up video on, I think that whatever happens I'd like to see it changed in ranked at least.
I agree with you 100% @ 10:00 with the third party thing
Yeah it's something I noticed really early on, I get why they kept it the same, because it is exciting as a new player to "steal" a cashout last second (adrenaline or something) but now that most people understand the game, it's about how the game has changed. Thanks for watching!
@@THiiXY ngl I've gotten those steals and it does feel great so yeah I definitely see both ends of it.
But yeah everyone is learning or in some cases learned the game like you said and it's gonna be interesting seeing where things go from here. I hope they make it easier to get through the battle pass cause time limit is nuts and I'm too sick and tired to play everyday despite loving the heck out of the game. Great video and mixing I'll def be around when you upload !
A bonus for holding a cash out based on the time held makes sense to me. Getting money after it’s stolen from you pretty much ruins Bank It as a game mode, and basically turns it into cod hardpoint
Yeah a verg small percentage like 10% for who owned it more time. And the 90% for who own it at the last second
I love this game! I was playing apex for a long time, but I just couldn't stand how EA manage the game.
The finals just took my heart, and now I feel it needs some more balancing, maps, content, and marketing. If the devs will be still working as hard as they do, in my opinion this game will explode.
The other day I was playing and out of nowhere the main soul building was deleted not destroyed or broken down just deleted so I don't believe it was the jump pad and crash combo