Long before the Taurus came out, I made a LR with the "same" missile rack configuration on the side of the turret. I think the turret just screams for extensions on its sides.
Dude, I will tell you now that there will always be someone in store who is a dick... played since 2nd ed (25+ years) and they are always there, generally best response is to tell them to shag off... Honestly the conversions are a little to much for my tastes, but then I've spent the last week carving matching sets of extra armour add-on kits from plasticard for my Leman Russes and gluing backpacks and equipment onto turrets to give them the cross country look, so who am I to judge, you got serious modeling skill so anyone giving you shite for OTT tanks is just jealous, serious kudos man, wish my conversion work looked that neat
Very cool conversions. They make me miss the days of customizing vehicles, and VDR (vehicle design rules) back from RT-3rd editions. As some one who's been playing this game for 20+ years, I see no problem in the what you've done. In fact, I applaud your creativity. As for playing against them. I wouldn't care if they were built only for aesthetics, you bought the appropriate upgrades from the Codex, or you payed the points to use the weapons systems that are built on. They are Imperial tanks in service of the corpse god. The will all be smoking hulks by the end of the battle.
My gaming group and I have been playing the rules found in the original Apocalypse tome, allowing for the play of ANY configuration/modification of/to a vehicle in any size game provided the points for the additional weapons/toys are spent for them. ANY decent gamer with imagination will be happy to play against your minis, myself included. I now have two Maniples of Titans with my son in addition to our IG and SM Armies, plus we bring in modified modern jets with GW weapons. If someone doesn't want to play your designs that someone's not worth the title "gamer"! Keep up the good work, buddy, and BOLT the Engineseers of Mars!
I have been building and playing Imperial Guard since the game came out way back when. I am 63 and I am still mostly building. I like you love modifying, kit bashing and scratch building. Half of all my Baneblade variants are made from the old Armorcast Baneblade and Shadowsword kits. Also have a few of the "new" Baneblade kit that Armorcast came out with just before they were forced to discontinue all Warhammer kits. GW closed them out but not before I bought a shitload of their kits including some Reaver and Warhound Titan kits. Yes,, they were very basic but that made them easier to kit bash and modify. I've never really had a problem with codex Nazis. I let my imagination fly.
Here's the thing, in combat stuff gets modified if it's found to be lacking. There's even lore written in the old codex with marines modifying predators to 'create' the annihilator so inho play it. It helps other players think outside the box tactically too and keeps the games fresh. End of the day you build and create a army with the current rules and codexs and gw bring out another gen rulebook anyhow and you find your army doesn't function as great.
Love the tanks man, I normally play them as the basic tank they are based on for the most part just to keep things simple but I love the conversion work and don't see any problem with what your doing.
Such a cool look on all of them. I have 3 Russes and I wish I build them like yours. There is something so special about adding a little detail from a kitbash, even if on you are the only one who notices it. And using the nova cannon is genius. I have so many lying around because of how bad that cannon has been over the years. Might give it a go soon.
I like your Heavy Stubber Mount. GW is now selling the Sprue with the Front Blade and Cupola mounted Heavy Stubber and Storm Bolter, separately for $15 dollars. I didn't realize this until I opened by 3 new Leman Russ Tanks. A calliope missile mount like some WW2 Sherman Tanks had would be cool as well. One thing I noticed during deployment in Iraq was there were endless modifications to vehicles in an effort to make them more combat effective.
These are some really nice conversions. I wouldn't have an issue with them in a game. For purists, one way to explain things is to say that x weapon is damaged or out of ammunition for the game, as not all of your tanks are going to be in peak fighting condition. Luckily 8th edition makes it a lot easier to make custom vehicles, as fire arcs aren't a thing anymore, so you can put your hull lascannon as a coaxial gun without any issues! Similarly, you could mount a vanquisher cannon in the gull of a tank and have a turret mounted lascannon. I'm really liking the customisation options these new rules afford!
Love your models, and in particular your modifications to them, and would love to have your army set down across from the table from me. You can always give the reasoning that because different forge worlds use different templates to build the same weapon or tank, that as your army has made it's way from war zone to war zone, it has had to replace tanks, and the guns on them, with variations from different manufactorums when they needed to. As for what rules to use, with the new edition coming out, if we where playing open or narrative play, and we had discussed it before the game, I would probably say to use all the weapon systems on them. In matched play, particularly during a tournament, or preparing for a tournament, I would say only use the weapons that are listed in the book.
I really like your Vanquishers. And nobody has any room to complain since all you did was make the main gun longer than GW/Citadel stock, just a Forge World did with their patterns of Vanquisher. Overall, nice work on your Russ squadrons.
Kudos Brother for your ingenuity, they're all great! I also have been kitbashing the F out of my 40K tanks yet face very little hostility where I live. Maybe it's because I'm a big dude nobody wants to mess with, maybe because my fellow gamers are just there for FUN! If anyone doesn't want to play against my designs we take a consensus, and I've NEVER been disallowed to lay my own designs/Frankenstein Monsters, he store owners tell the A-hole whiners to either play or not come back. I even brought an USED a Calliope on one of my Russes modeled after an old M4 Sherman kit (The Screaming Mimi) from the '80s. I also always have paper on my units ("making your own datasheets", it's in the Apocalypse rulebook somewhere!) regardless how accepting my opponents are to stall their arguments. PURISTS are a scourge - the Imperium is so vast after all, and they just don't understand that this is just a GAME FOR FUN! Roll on and be an innovator that fights the Great Evil of Stupidity!
My Games Workshop doesn't allow models with custom rules but I still customise my Leman Russ Tanks with inscriptions and improvised armour although these do not attribute to any specific rules for the Tanks. Mostly people I play against notice the weird customisations such as how my first Leman Russ Battle Tank has "Wanked Once" in-scripted on its side and my Demolisher is mounted with thin pieces of wood made from chopsticks. These customisations you show us are cool too and look way better than my customisations
very cool. I like to customize too. Its an army but it hasn´t to be uniformed. The Lemon Russ comes from a different imperial world, so the guns looks different or are modified
I personally love converting and modifying, my inquisition squad has a guy with an ork skull as a helmet, I had to completely hollow out the head and then fit the pre painted human head into it, I have a Tau kneeling figure with guardsman feet and an ork trophy head with pistol and knife, my scouts use guardsman heads and gear with dark elder bodies and legs, they look smart as far as I am concerned but are all played as imperial guard, as far as your tanks go, run with them and if your opponent let's you use the additions just work out the points cost and go from there, the important thing is to enjoy what you are doing and ignore those that lack the imagination to convert, all power to your scalpel and razor saw😊.
Yo, I stumbled onto your channel randomly while looking for stormblade painting videos and I subscribed because your videos are great! I think your conversion work is extremely creative and as a modeler and miniature painter, I know what scratch building and converting entails. My opinion as far as guys acting stiff about conversions on models going against book rules etc. is this: 1. From a gaming stand point, with warhammer 40k, technically speaking these guys aren't wrong BUT, if you're not playing a tournament, or if you're playing with someone who agrees to conditions allowing the models to hit the table then there's no issue. In this situation, I feel like these guys just wanted to spout off their knowledge of game rules and be a know-it-all type, being unnecessarily rigid just to belittle your creativity by saying you didn't build the model straight from the box. 2. Honestly, I think it's a jealous reaction from players who dont have the imagination, creativity or drive to convert their models and personalize them. In this hobby you have 3 types of people. You have hobby heroes who just enjoy the models. Painting them, hacking them up and making original builds, etc. but dont play at all. Then you have the wargames who love playing the games, sometimes competitively (e.i. maybe those guys you referred to) who view painting and building as a secondary thing that is sometimes an annoyance because they want to get finished models on the table to play but they hate the creative process of painting and customizing an army. The 3rd is obviously the people who enjoy both equally. Long story short, guys like that struggle to find people who want to play matches with them because they're generally unpleasant adversaries on the table. The same types who micromanage rules for YOUR army on YOUR turn, are poor sports etc. Keep doing what you do because your builds are badass and I look forward to more videos in the future!
Mondo turret guy with the gatling guns would work great as one of those forgeworld Russ variants that have a coaxial storm bolter... And any of the modified turrets would work very well to represent the battle cannon artifact from vigilus defiant. Right now I'm combining Russ turrets with Chimera hulls to make a 40k version of an old epic unit called a Chimedon. I intend to magnetize them for sponsons and turret barrel swaps etc and run them as Leman Russes.
Ok, two things: One, the STC system gives the builder instructions on how to build the tank using whatever materials are to hand. So, a vanquisher canon built by one factory world may look different to one built by another, even though they are built from the same STC. Two, different forge worlds make different variants of the STCs. The Mars pattern of everything is different to the Lucius pattern. So that is two ways that the same tank may differ. I'm toying with the idea of making all of my Leman Russes steam powered, to fit in with the Victorian theme of my Praetorians. Though personally, I wouldn't model any mini with weapons that aren't allowed in the rules. That's just me though.
I think 40K fans can be defined in a venn diagram of "players" and "hobbyists", with the additional refinement you can plot someone as to how MUCH of each he is. Some people are in the overlap (probably most people); they play and they like to made models and it's all the same to them. It's just fun. Then, there are people who don't play but make models. Cool! Then, there are people who play (and play seriously) but wish they didn't have to model - maybe they commission them, or buy them already painted, or just run gray plastic. Also cool! And then there are assholes. There are (in my experience) less "painter" assholes - I haven't met a guy who painted models but said "you shouldn't play". I've met them who said "I don't like to play and I don't understand why you would" but never a guy who says you SHOULDN'T. But on the extreme edge of that Venn diagram are player assholes who are hard-core gamers (they might not even be that good at it) who will quash any sort of imagination in painting or modelling. "You can't do that because . . . " I just don't play with those people and I try not to talk to them twice. My "Astra Militarum" army is a force of Sisters of Battle postulants (girls in flak with auto- and lasguns) and they are accompanied by a Leman Russ with dual multi-melta in the turrets and driven by a Sister of Battle wearing a mortar board. If anyone says "That's not canon!" and whinges rather than saying "Interesting . . . " I just won't play them.
I scratch-built or converted all my Ork vehicles from dollar store toys. For the most part I got away with it since I was dirt poor and only played with a small group of friends who understood. I used pieces from a Dollar Tree Gundam Knock-off to decorate the base I mounted my Deff Dredd on and a guy I'd never played with before started screeching "That's not Canon so it's not legal!!!"
I liked your command figure too, I really can't see why folk would criticise that ( Do you think some might be just baiting you for giggles cos you might be sensitive? Doesn't make it right of course but it would explain why some are negative). Anyway, I remember many years ago (I'm that old!) how cobbling things together was positively encouraged (White Dwarf always had some template or other to make terrain, vehicles etc from all sorts. Even a Baneblade from plasticard with 25mm bases for track wheels 😊). It's part of the fun of the hobby! You carry on mate, play your rational friends and stuff the critics 👍☺
Looks awesome, starting a tank company myself so im looking for inspiration and parts i could use to make them different, though i do agree as long as they stick to the rules theres no issue, i think the only one you may have trouble with is the extended barrel in which just say you will measure from the hull and they cant complain.
Using half of the vox caster from a regular IG squad is a great idea I never thought of. You get 2 per box so its no like you would be wasting one. I'll have to do that on the demolisher I plan on getting next.
Thank you , when i use a "Non-reg" thing , and my opponent moans about it , then , he won the battle and i pack my stuff away , and never face that muppit again , simple , I 100% agree with you , you own it ,you worked it and you want to see it on the table top . if anyone has issues with that , I aint letting them have the privilege of facing my force again, (There loss) .
I will give a tip as a ork player that kitbash bunch of stuff on how to do it without people bitching about it and even better, maintaining wysiwig. First: be consistent with your own rules. If you have a squad of regular troop with a broom as lasrifle, everytime this broom appears in other squads , it should be a lasrifle. Theres a hard and a easy way to have custom models. The easy way is being consistent with your own rules, using the same elements to represent the samething across all your army, keeping the general profile of the original, maintaining the same number of weapons if they are major and not using common known weapons as count as. Using an axe as swords in a terminator unit is fine. Using an melta as flamer in an army in which sometimes you have meltas as meltas is when people start complaining. The last tip: a model thats a leader can break all the rules i mentioned as long you have some very obvious element in that model that makes it really obvious that model is a very specifc one. Example: lets say you wanna have a different model that count as a tank commander, its fine but to be fair with your opponent, customize it with something that is very clear that model is a different one. I made a kitbash that had many bits and bolts , custom stuff etc. to make it completely clear to my opponent, this is the only tank with a flag in my whole army and no other tank share the same design because a key point of great playable kitbash is to make it a custom model that is obvious about what it is
I mixed a battle cannon with a nova cannon to make a proxy "hammer of sundar" as I use it every game lol. Although I plan to do a heavy custom plasma leman russ soon
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RULE OF COOL. I never have a issue as long as there is no advantage or attempt to circumvent the vehicle armaments stated in the rules. I think there is plenty of room for details that are just aesthetic.
if you love to convert and kittbash... do it! but tell the opponent that you play it as codex standar... but the rule of cool ... i like the ideas and going to make some my self.... especially the one with taurox misile... got some sherman ideas
I think you statement is correct “as long as the tank confirms to the rules then your ok”. I hate to run models without doing something different to each one. Look at pictures of vehicles in WW2, the crew lived in this tank, it was there home and was at time a taxi for infantry. As such many are different from all the others.
Honestly this video is SOO COOOL! I hope you do more conversion videos!!! I do stuff just like this. I wish I could find that taurox turret piece with the gatling guns. Anyway great imagination!!!
@AirForceBuilder I just finished a DKOK Chimera tank where I added twin linked autocannons from a Leman Russ to the front and twin linked gatling cannons to the turret LOLOLOL. I also copied one of your awesome Leman Russ cannon conversions into a new Leman Russ turret of my own! Thank you for the design concept.
you need to try out Orks, it's the best because they have no rules, you can kit bash whatever you want, you can loot a titan and make it more "killy" moar dakka!, and the more insane and impossible it looks the more orky it will be
This looks awesome - and you've probably made some awesome ones in the years since you posted this video :P - I just kitbashed(or whatever the term is) a "leman russ" where I used the chimera tracks/underchassis, cut up the leman russ over-chassis(the part you fit the turret on) - some green stuff to fill in, and 3 heavy bolters in the front part(the one you use for chimera's or artillery vehicles). So technically its only got stuff a regular leman russ would use, it just fits differently. And I love it :D I had the same idea as you with combining some of the cannon parts for a more special looking thing - I'm gonna use it as the relic battle cannon :-) But I wouldn't want to add stuff thats not allowed in the codex simply to not get in trouble with people getting mad about it.(Personally I'd have no problem as long as you didn't want it to be some OP million weapon killing machine for the points price of a regular leman russ xD - if it looks cool and you're fair about its rules, I'd love to play with anything.)
If you're referring to M48s and M60s then you'll have seen pictures of armour in the field, on campaign etc and you know how field adaptions just blossomed. How about those armoured trucks upgunned/armoured to cope with ambushes on the road! It's a shame the lists don't include a multiple missile launcher (reference the Sherman with the construction over the turret linked to the gun barrel for aiming). Really liking the imagination used here, particularly cos I don't have any so I have to copy stuff 😕 Well done 👍
Back in the days of the first set of 40k rules there were no plastic kits. All vehicles were scratch built, and there were rules to cover this. However a lot of tanks tended to be made O.P. There are no scratch build rules now, so as long as your tank conforms to the rules and is based on a G.W. kit, then you can play them to your hearts content. Just accept some of your friends are a little bit O.C.D and jealous of your modeling skills.
Bro good work. Everything will look amazing once painted. Don't let other people influence your decisions. I've been playing for years and have many many custom leman Russ. Do you have any videos of them recently?
Great looking models. If you enjoy being creative, be creative. They are GW models so you should be able to use them in games, without any come back. If in a friendly game, you want to use these, go ahead, they looking great. Tournaments are a different issue because you need to look at a model and understand what is on it so you can prioritise targets. However, I still ask questions about models, what toughness, what damage a weapon does etc during games. The main thing is enjoying the hobby, so keep on doing what you are doing.
Everybody has their own way of building. Sometimes I build the track guards before painting and sometimes after. I think ease of painting the tracks is the most common reason to put them on after.
what I would do with the tank with the missiles is simply to pay 6 hunter killer missiles, so that no one would have a problem since in essence it balances those extra weapons paying the points that are worth, in the only case that there would be a problem is in a tournament, but if you only play with friends I really do not see any problem
Hey, your own Lore or Fluff can explain away anything. GW does it all the time and they encourage players to do the same. I see no reason why you couldn't pay the points for the added weapons and play games with them. Maybe not tournaments but how many tournaments are you going to play anyway. I too a tank commander and gave him a Las Pistol and Chain Sword. I figure I could use him as a Platoon Leader or something, why not? I could say his tank was destroyed and he was ordered to take charge of an Infantry Company or even assign him to lead a special weapons team on a mission.
Hell, you can play any of those tanks in my games. It makes it better if your vehicles are modded, and makes the game and pics look way better. Most of my leman russ tanks are modded, all have dozer blades and hunter killer.
Tbh I like to run mine as per the book, however if o e of my mates custom built a tank I wouldn't care just run it like one of the options out the book
Nice work. Really. It’s your money & time & should NOT be a cause for concern from other players. I believe Forgeworld sold one or more books about imperial armor-and how to design your own types. Gives points/armor values too. Nothing wrong with a proxy either- especially when you consider how much effort you’ve actually put into these models. I apologize for you having to catch flak for making your own stuff. (Tough to be original sometimes). Good luck with your future projects. Thanks for posting
If you enjoy building them like that then do so its up to you. Please don't expect to be able to use them in battle possibly not even with friends because some people just want to play with the rules theyre given. Really if it has the right stuff and its the right size nobody can argue but if not then just be aware that other people are perfectly welcome to ask not to play against your weirder models if they dont have permitted stuff as in the rules. People can do this for Power Gaming to be overpowered which you obviously arent. Just play with people who want to let you use your cool stuff.
Any chance you could give me more info on where that plow came from that you said you got on Ebay? I've been looking for something for Sisters of Battle Repressors and that looks like a possible fit.
Sweet conversions. Could be played as you mention, just using it by the rules, or you can take the points values from the model they came from and then add those numbers to the tank's value. Point values should be then close. Power level will be a little harder, but 1-2 points added for power level should suffice.
I watch your video three times and I like it, your Leman Russ Tanks looks all amazing :) I have a little question which colours you are using for the red lenses?
I am highly offended by this video!!! Why have you not made more excellent tanks to show off. Can't wait for more updates. Keep up the good work mate.😀
Personally I love it! some fantastic tanks there. I don't see any issue with them as is, "counts as" works fine... but why not use the systems you've come up with. The 40k universe is huge and there will be variances. And if that doesn't satisfy the naysayers, go for Chaos, mega conversion and scratch build options there, and try arguing the point of what daemons look like! They are described as nightmares given form, what does that look like? you guessed it, it's different for everyone. If you can rant so can I :)
There is only one problem which I see and it is the double lascannon tank because the size of a lascannon actually physically can't fit on the sponsoon
I think it really all depends on your club. I've found that some folks are ok or actually encourage it. Some are very strict and real gate keepers. I wish you luck though!
There are thousands if not millions of worlds in the 40k-universe. So who says, every world has the same patterns for their vehicles? Even the official models from GW and Forge World have different schemes and nobody can say these are the only ones. There also where vehicle construction rules in the 3rd or 4th edition of 40k, where you could get rules and costs for selfmade vehicles. So noone has the right to say "It doesn't look like in the book so you can't play it." I like your conversions and most likely would enjoy a game with you.
big problem is a. making things wysiwyg as far as weapons so the missiles and the rotary cannons can cause confusion and b. way back before they dumbed down 40k there were rules with adding weapons to vehicles to make them custom. you just had to pay the points. as for the aesthetic of the main cannons you did, i can see a LITTLE confusion but no big deal and overall the tanks look great.
Playing with modified rules for your modelling choices. You need a regular gaming group, sit down with them and discuss special rules, how much this costs pointwise and what its actual stat line is like and what buffs they can take if they want to level things out. Or play Orks then everything goes as looted vehicles with more DAKKKA added.
These are cool, you should try a ww2 style track conversion and have the side sponsons on the turret, I did it with the older leman russ kit turned out looking like a tiger tank on steroids which in my opinion made it better for 40k and fitted better with the look of my army
if it is a friendly game, bring it and use it as you want. this wouldn't brother me a bit. although Tournaments might be a different situation. personally looking at doing something different for my dessert troops. i.E. German North Affrica WWII. Thanks for sharing.
a million worlds, thousands of different forges and factories, no true 100% standardization (except munitions)...there will be differences in looks haha
Are you going to a tournament? Ask the to has the final say. Anything that demands wysiwig is against the greater hobby of kitbashing and customization. Dont play with people that are picky with your models, its not worth the time. Also i tecommend playing orks because we highly appreciate custom jobs.
Your friends who said you can not do that are refering to wyzzy-wig : that is it has to be on model and can only be what is in rule set. That is for hard core tournament play and has no place in friendly games. As long as you inform you opponent what it is and stick to what you said it is all cool. So make your models how you think is cool. This is called the rule of cool or the rule of Dave ( if you are a miniwargaming fan). Your friends who insist that your army has to be modelled WYZZY-WIG are douches. Also you can use all imperial guard aet with a Tau force as Gue'vesa ( human helpers) or cooler painting up guards as Khorne Blood Pack cultist/ militia
Also, your friends who insist on WYZZY-WIG in friendly play are douches. Sorry to say that about your friends. but they are douches and I bet they play with very fluffy and cheesy- death-star formations. Most who insist on wyzzy-wig do push the rules and formations to near breaking point and play in a way that is about a subatomic particle above cheating.
I think it is hilarious how the evolution of your tank-building mirrors the evolution of tank-building in real life.
Great job!
Long before the Taurus came out, I made a LR with the "same" missile rack configuration on the side of the turret. I think the turret just screams for extensions on its sides.
2nd and 3rd edition had custom vehicle rules. also your models are in the spirit of 40k ,i can't imagine objecting to them.
Dude, I will tell you now that there will always be someone in store who is a dick... played since 2nd ed (25+ years) and they are always there, generally best response is to tell them to shag off... Honestly the conversions are a little to much for my tastes, but then I've spent the last week carving matching sets of extra armour add-on kits from plasticard for my Leman Russes and gluing backpacks and equipment onto turrets to give them the cross country look, so who am I to judge, you got serious modeling skill so anyone giving you shite for OTT tanks is just jealous, serious kudos man, wish my conversion work looked that neat
Very cool conversions. They make me miss the days of customizing vehicles, and VDR (vehicle design rules) back from RT-3rd editions.
As some one who's been playing this game for 20+ years, I see no problem in the what you've done. In fact, I applaud your creativity.
As for playing against them. I wouldn't care if they were built only for aesthetics, you bought the appropriate upgrades from the Codex, or you payed the points to use the weapons systems that are built on.
They are Imperial tanks in service of the corpse god. The will all be smoking hulks by the end of the battle.
My gaming group and I have been playing the rules found in the original Apocalypse tome, allowing for the play of ANY configuration/modification of/to a vehicle in any size game provided the points for the additional weapons/toys are spent for them. ANY decent gamer with imagination will be happy to play against your minis, myself included. I now have two Maniples of Titans with my son in addition to our IG and SM Armies, plus we bring in modified modern jets with GW weapons. If someone doesn't want to play your designs that someone's not worth the title "gamer"! Keep up the good work, buddy, and BOLT the Engineseers of Mars!
There are different patterns of tanks from different forge worlds. They wouldn't all look the same.👍
I have been building and playing Imperial Guard since the game came out way back when. I am 63 and I am still mostly building. I like you love modifying, kit bashing and scratch building. Half of all my Baneblade variants are made from the old Armorcast Baneblade and Shadowsword kits. Also have a few of the "new" Baneblade kit that Armorcast came out with just before they were forced to discontinue all Warhammer kits. GW closed them out but not before I bought a shitload of their kits including some Reaver and Warhound Titan kits. Yes,, they were very basic but that made them easier to kit bash and modify. I've never really had a problem with codex Nazis. I let my imagination fly.
you are never to old to rock and roll? and keeping fun and smilig most people forgott? take care! good to see boys at our age =)
Here's the thing, in combat stuff gets modified if it's found to be lacking. There's even lore written in the old codex with marines modifying predators to 'create' the annihilator so inho play it. It helps other players think outside the box tactically too and keeps the games fresh.
End of the day you build and create a army with the current rules and codexs and gw bring out another gen rulebook anyhow and you find your army doesn't function as great.
Love the tanks man, I normally play them as the basic tank they are based on for the most part just to keep things simple but I love the conversion work and don't see any problem with what your doing.
Such a cool look on all of them. I have 3 Russes and I wish I build them like yours. There is something so special about adding a little detail from a kitbash, even if on you are the only one who notices it.
And using the nova cannon is genius. I have so many lying around because of how bad that cannon has been over the years. Might give it a go soon.
They all look great. After my 5th Leman, I also started doing things differently. Where did you get pinup decals?
I like your Heavy Stubber Mount.
GW is now selling the Sprue with the Front Blade and Cupola mounted Heavy Stubber and Storm Bolter, separately for $15 dollars.
I didn't realize this until I opened by 3 new Leman Russ Tanks.
A calliope missile mount like some WW2 Sherman Tanks had would be cool as well.
One thing I noticed during deployment in Iraq was there were endless modifications to vehicles in an effort to make them more combat effective.
Jeffrey Dancinger What sort of modifications? I’m curious
These are some really nice conversions. I wouldn't have an issue with them in a game. For purists, one way to explain things is to say that x weapon is damaged or out of ammunition for the game, as not all of your tanks are going to be in peak fighting condition.
Luckily 8th edition makes it a lot easier to make custom vehicles, as fire arcs aren't a thing anymore, so you can put your hull lascannon as a coaxial gun without any issues! Similarly, you could mount a vanquisher cannon in the gull of a tank and have a turret mounted lascannon. I'm really liking the customisation options these new rules afford!
Love your models, and in particular your modifications to them, and would love to have your army set down across from the table from me. You can always give the reasoning that because different forge worlds use different templates to build the same weapon or tank, that as your army has made it's way from war zone to war zone, it has had to replace tanks, and the guns on them, with variations from different manufactorums when they needed to.
As for what rules to use, with the new edition coming out, if we where playing open or narrative play, and we had discussed it before the game, I would probably say to use all the weapon systems on them. In matched play, particularly during a tournament, or preparing for a tournament, I would say only use the weapons that are listed in the book.
I really like your Vanquishers. And nobody has any room to complain since all you did was make the main gun longer than GW/Citadel stock, just a Forge World did with their patterns of Vanquisher. Overall, nice work on your Russ squadrons.
Kudos Brother for your ingenuity, they're all great! I also have been kitbashing the F out of my 40K tanks yet face very little hostility where I live. Maybe it's because I'm a big dude nobody wants to mess with, maybe because my fellow gamers are just there for FUN! If anyone doesn't want to play against my designs we take a consensus, and I've NEVER been disallowed to lay my own designs/Frankenstein Monsters, he store owners tell the A-hole whiners to either play or not come back. I even brought an USED a Calliope on one of my Russes modeled after an old M4 Sherman kit (The Screaming Mimi) from the '80s. I also always have paper on my units ("making your own datasheets", it's in the Apocalypse rulebook somewhere!) regardless how accepting my opponents are to stall their arguments. PURISTS are a scourge - the Imperium is so vast after all, and they just don't understand that this is just a GAME FOR FUN! Roll on and be an innovator that fights the Great Evil of Stupidity!
My Games Workshop doesn't allow models with custom rules but I still customise my Leman Russ Tanks with inscriptions and improvised armour although these do not attribute to any specific rules for the Tanks. Mostly people I play against notice the weird customisations such as how my first Leman Russ Battle Tank has "Wanked Once" in-scripted on its side and my Demolisher is mounted with thin pieces of wood made from chopsticks. These customisations you show us are cool too and look way better than my customisations
very cool. I like to customize too. Its an army but it hasn´t to be uniformed. The Lemon Russ comes from a different imperial world, so the guns looks different or are modified
I personally love converting and modifying, my inquisition squad has a guy with an ork skull as a helmet, I had to completely hollow out the head and then fit the pre painted human head into it, I have a Tau kneeling figure with guardsman feet and an ork trophy head with pistol and knife, my scouts use guardsman heads and gear with dark elder bodies and legs, they look smart as far as I am concerned but are all played as imperial guard, as far as your tanks go, run with them and if your opponent let's you use the additions just work out the points cost and go from there, the important thing is to enjoy what you are doing and ignore those that lack the imagination to convert, all power to your scalpel and razor saw😊.
Yo, I stumbled onto your channel randomly while looking for stormblade painting videos and I subscribed because your videos are great! I think your conversion work is extremely creative and as a modeler and miniature painter, I know what scratch building and converting entails. My opinion as far as guys acting stiff about conversions on models going against book rules etc. is this:
1. From a gaming stand point, with warhammer 40k, technically speaking these guys aren't wrong BUT, if you're not playing a tournament, or if you're playing with someone who agrees to conditions allowing the models to hit the table then there's no issue. In this situation, I feel like these guys just wanted to spout off their knowledge of game rules and be a know-it-all type, being unnecessarily rigid just to belittle your creativity by saying you didn't build the model straight from the box.
2. Honestly, I think it's a jealous reaction from players who dont have the imagination, creativity or drive to convert their models and personalize them. In this hobby you have 3 types of people. You have hobby heroes who just enjoy the models. Painting them, hacking them up and making original builds, etc. but dont play at all. Then you have the wargames who love playing the games, sometimes competitively (e.i. maybe those guys you referred to) who view painting and building as a secondary thing that is sometimes an annoyance because they want to get finished models on the table to play but they hate the creative process of painting and customizing an army. The 3rd is obviously the people who enjoy both equally.
Long story short, guys like that struggle to find people who want to play matches with them because they're generally unpleasant adversaries on the table. The same types who micromanage rules for YOUR army on YOUR turn, are poor sports etc. Keep doing what you do because your builds are badass and I look forward to more videos in the future!
If you can build it, you can play it provided the rules for it are consistent. Great job !
Mondo turret guy with the gatling guns would work great as one of those forgeworld Russ variants that have a coaxial storm bolter... And any of the modified turrets would work very well to represent the battle cannon artifact from vigilus defiant.
Right now I'm combining Russ turrets with Chimera hulls to make a 40k version of an old epic unit called a Chimedon. I intend to magnetize them for sponsons and turret barrel swaps etc and run them as Leman Russes.
Ok, two things: One, the STC system gives the builder instructions on how to build the tank using whatever materials are to hand. So, a vanquisher canon built by one factory world may look different to one built by another, even though they are built from the same STC.
Two, different forge worlds make different variants of the STCs. The Mars pattern of everything is different to the Lucius pattern.
So that is two ways that the same tank may differ.
I'm toying with the idea of making all of my Leman Russes steam powered, to fit in with the Victorian theme of my Praetorians. Though personally, I wouldn't model any mini with weapons that aren't allowed in the rules. That's just me though.
P.S. It sounds like some of your gaming buddies are a-holes.
Those are all good thoughts. I'd like to see what steam powered tanks would look like!
I think 40K fans can be defined in a venn diagram of "players" and "hobbyists", with the additional refinement you can plot someone as to how MUCH of each he is. Some people are in the overlap (probably most people); they play and they like to made models and it's all the same to them. It's just fun.
Then, there are people who don't play but make models. Cool!
Then, there are people who play (and play seriously) but wish they didn't have to model - maybe they commission them, or buy them already painted, or just run gray plastic. Also cool!
And then there are assholes.
There are (in my experience) less "painter" assholes - I haven't met a guy who painted models but said "you shouldn't play". I've met them who said "I don't like to play and I don't understand why you would" but never a guy who says you SHOULDN'T.
But on the extreme edge of that Venn diagram are player assholes who are hard-core gamers (they might not even be that good at it) who will quash any sort of imagination in painting or modelling. "You can't do that because . . . "
I just don't play with those people and I try not to talk to them twice.
My "Astra Militarum" army is a force of Sisters of Battle postulants (girls in flak with auto- and lasguns) and they are accompanied by a Leman Russ with dual multi-melta in the turrets and driven by a Sister of Battle wearing a mortar board. If anyone says "That's not canon!" and whinges rather than saying "Interesting . . . " I just won't play them.
I scratch-built or converted all my Ork vehicles from dollar store toys. For the most part I got away with it since I was dirt poor and only played with a small group of friends who understood. I used pieces from a Dollar Tree Gundam Knock-off to decorate the base I mounted my Deff Dredd on and a guy I'd never played with before started screeching "That's not Canon so it's not legal!!!"
I liked your command figure too, I really can't see why folk would criticise that ( Do you think some might be just baiting you for giggles cos you might be sensitive? Doesn't make it right of course but it would explain why some are negative).
Anyway, I remember many years ago (I'm that old!) how cobbling things together was positively encouraged (White Dwarf always had some template or other to make terrain, vehicles etc from all sorts. Even a Baneblade from plasticard with 25mm bases for track wheels 😊). It's part of the fun of the hobby!
You carry on mate, play your rational friends and stuff the critics 👍☺
Really cool stuff. I don't know why anyone wouldn't want to see these across the table from them
Looks awesome, starting a tank company myself so im looking for inspiration and parts i could use to make them different, though i do agree as long as they stick to the rules theres no issue, i think the only one you may have trouble with is the extended barrel in which just say you will measure from the hull and they cant complain.
Using half of the vox caster from a regular IG squad is a great idea I never thought of. You get 2 per box so its no like you would be wasting one. I'll have to do that on the demolisher I plan on getting next.
Thank you ,
when i use a "Non-reg" thing , and my opponent moans about it , then , he won the battle and i pack my stuff away , and never face that muppit again , simple ,
I 100% agree with you , you own it ,you worked it and you want to see it on the table top . if anyone has issues with that , I aint letting them have the privilege of facing my force again, (There loss) .
I will give a tip as a ork player that kitbash bunch of stuff on how to do it without people bitching about it and even better, maintaining wysiwig. First: be consistent with your own rules. If you have a squad of regular troop with a broom as lasrifle, everytime this broom appears in other squads , it should be a lasrifle. Theres a hard and a easy way to have custom models. The easy way is being consistent with your own rules, using the same elements to represent the samething across all your army, keeping the general profile of the original, maintaining the same number of weapons if they are major and not using common known weapons as count as. Using an axe as swords in a terminator unit is fine. Using an melta as flamer in an army in which sometimes you have meltas as meltas is when people start complaining. The last tip: a model thats a leader can break all the rules i mentioned as long you have some very obvious element in that model that makes it really obvious that model is a very specifc one. Example: lets say you wanna have a different model that count as a tank commander, its fine but to be fair with your opponent, customize it with something that is very clear that model is a different one. I made a kitbash that had many bits and bolts , custom stuff etc. to make it completely clear to my opponent, this is the only tank with a flag in my whole army and no other tank share the same design because a key point of great playable kitbash is to make it a custom model that is obvious about what it is
These look awesome my dude.
Kudos to your creativity
Thank you!
love your custom tanks
I mixed a battle cannon with a nova cannon to make a proxy "hammer of sundar" as I use it every game lol.
Although I plan to do a heavy custom plasma leman russ soon
It's just a lot more fun to make your own versions, right?
@@AirForceBuilder so much more fun. And also I get bord of seeing the same tank 8 times lol
YES sir ! =))
If your "friends" don't like your creativity, it sounds like you need to find other people to play with.
OH yes, come to germany youre wellcome ! just a little camber here for guests but a lot of fun! =) )
here on the eastern sea, we could play in real Sand on the shore in Badebüx !
RULE OF COOL. I never have a issue as long as there is no advantage or attempt to circumvent the vehicle armaments stated in the rules. I think there is plenty of room for details that are just aesthetic.
if you love to convert and kittbash... do it! but tell the opponent that you play it as codex standar... but the rule of cool ... i like the ideas and going to make some my self.... especially the one with taurox misile... got some sherman ideas
I think you statement is correct “as long as the tank confirms to the rules then your ok”. I hate to run models without doing something different to each one. Look at pictures of vehicles in WW2, the crew lived in this tank, it was there home and was at time a taxi for infantry. As such many are different from all the others.
Dude... awesome job on the mods. Semper Fi
Honestly this video is SOO COOOL! I hope you do more conversion videos!!! I do stuff just like this. I wish I could find that taurox turret piece with the gatling guns. Anyway great imagination!!!
Thanks!
@AirForceBuilder I just finished a DKOK Chimera tank where I added twin linked autocannons from a Leman Russ to the front and twin linked gatling cannons to the turret LOLOLOL. I also copied one of your awesome Leman Russ cannon conversions into a new Leman Russ turret of my own! Thank you for the design concept.
you need to try out Orks, it's the best because they have no rules, you can kit bash whatever you want, you can loot a titan and make it more "killy" moar dakka!, and the more insane and impossible it looks the more orky it will be
This looks awesome - and you've probably made some awesome ones in the years since you posted this video :P
- I just kitbashed(or whatever the term is) a "leman russ" where I used the chimera tracks/underchassis, cut up the leman russ over-chassis(the part you fit the turret on) - some green stuff to fill in, and 3 heavy bolters in the front part(the one you use for chimera's or artillery vehicles). So technically its only got stuff a regular leman russ would use, it just fits differently. And I love it :D I had the same idea as you with combining some of the cannon parts for a more special looking thing - I'm gonna use it as the relic battle cannon :-)
But I wouldn't want to add stuff thats not allowed in the codex simply to not get in trouble with people getting mad about it.(Personally I'd have no problem as long as you didn't want it to be some OP million weapon killing machine for the points price of a regular leman russ xD - if it looks cool and you're fair about its rules, I'd love to play with anything.)
Dear god it’s gorgeous.
Normal person: Leman russ
Me:lemon russ.
Those tanks are cool.
If you're referring to M48s and M60s then you'll have seen pictures of armour in the field, on campaign etc and you know how field adaptions just blossomed. How about those armoured trucks upgunned/armoured to cope with ambushes on the road!
It's a shame the lists don't include a multiple missile launcher (reference the Sherman with the construction over the turret linked to the gun barrel for aiming).
Really liking the imagination used here, particularly cos I don't have any so I have to copy stuff 😕
Well done 👍
Back in the days of the first set of 40k rules there were no plastic kits. All vehicles were scratch built, and there were rules to cover this. However a lot of tanks tended to be made O.P.
There are no scratch build rules now, so as long as your tank conforms to the rules and is based on a G.W. kit, then you can play them to your hearts content. Just accept some of your friends are a little bit O.C.D and jealous of your modeling skills.
its been a while since i've seen heresy that looks this good...
Bro good work. Everything will look amazing once painted. Don't let other people influence your decisions. I've been playing for years and have many many custom leman Russ. Do you have any videos of them recently?
I have some videos of some of the more extreme customized tanks. they are on here. I've been bouncing around from project to project.
making my first model ever and its a Russ. I love the eradicator/battle combo so Im gonna make mine like yours with the hull las as a coaxial instead
Sounds cool! I'd love to see how it comes out!
fortunately i'm surrounded by tanks so i have a lot of real world inspiration at hood
I've been there! Way back when...B 2/7 Cav.
Great looking models. If you enjoy being creative, be creative. They are GW models so you should be able to use them in games, without any come back. If in a friendly game, you want to use these, go ahead, they looking great. Tournaments are a different issue because you need to look at a model and understand what is on it so you can prioritise targets. However, I still ask questions about models, what toughness, what damage a weapon does etc during games. The main thing is enjoying the hobby, so keep on doing what you are doing.
any reason why the track guards go on last? is it an ease of painting sorta thing or what?
Everybody has their own way of building. Sometimes I build the track guards before painting and sometimes after. I think ease of painting the tracks is the most common reason to put them on after.
Who cares what the book says, this hobby is about creativity (for me at any rate).
Play the long barrelled one as a tank hunter from forge world you can get the PDF easy online for the rules
what I would do with the tank with the missiles is simply to pay 6 hunter killer missiles, so that no one would have a problem since in essence it balances those extra weapons paying the points that are worth, in the only case that there would be a problem is in a tournament, but if you only play with friends I really do not see any problem
Hey, your own Lore or Fluff can explain away anything. GW does it all the time and they encourage players to do the same.
I see no reason why you couldn't pay the points for the added weapons and play games with them. Maybe not tournaments but how many tournaments are you going to play anyway.
I too a tank commander and gave him a Las Pistol and Chain Sword. I figure I could use him as a Platoon Leader or something, why not? I could say his tank was destroyed and he was ordered to take charge of an Infantry Company or even assign him to lead a special weapons team on a mission.
Hell, you can play any of those tanks in my games. It makes it better if your vehicles are modded, and makes the game and pics look way better. Most of my leman russ tanks are modded, all have dozer blades and hunter killer.
A thing called house rules always apply, keep that book near by.
Tbh I like to run mine as per the book, however if o e of my mates custom built a tank I wouldn't care just run it like one of the options out the book
Nice work. Really. It’s your money & time & should NOT be a cause for concern from other players. I believe Forgeworld sold one or more books about imperial armor-and how to design your own types. Gives points/armor values too. Nothing wrong with a proxy either- especially when you consider how much effort you’ve actually put into these models. I apologize for you having to catch flak for making your own stuff. (Tough to be original sometimes). Good luck with your future projects. Thanks for posting
Cool tanks AFB ! Conversions are fun and to heck with everyone else !
How about Leman Russ with Assault cannons?
If you enjoy building them like that then do so its up to you. Please don't expect to be able to use them in battle possibly not even with friends because some people just want to play with the rules theyre given. Really if it has the right stuff and its the right size nobody can argue but if not then just be aware that other people are perfectly welcome to ask not to play against your weirder models if they dont have permitted stuff as in the rules. People can do this for Power Gaming to be overpowered which you obviously arent. Just play with people who want to let you use your cool stuff.
also be really clear what is what maybe even make a print out of your units with photos and have what its got on it.
Building tanks with the rule of cool is totally worth it.
great models mate. They are absolutely beautiful.
Thank you!
Any chance you could give me more info on where that plow came from that you said you got on Ebay? I've been looking for something for Sisters of Battle Repressors and that looks like a possible fit.
I've looked a lot to try and find the listing for one, but I jsut can't find it anymore.
Dude, what happened with the final video of the Macross YF-19? Really beem waiting to see the final product...Keep th great work, cheers man!
Sweet conversions. Could be played as you mention, just using it by the rules, or you can take the points values from the model they came from and then add those numbers to the tank's value. Point values should be then close. Power level will be a little harder, but 1-2 points added for power level should suffice.
I watch your video three times and I like it, your Leman Russ Tanks looks all amazing :) I have a little question which colours you are using for the red lenses?
If you mean the periscope lenses I use Model master Acryl Hot Pink with a clear coat (anything will work) brushed over.
@@AirForceBuilder Thank you sir :)
man you should try to do a tank destroyer of a leman russ using the front sponson fo a big gun!
Is the scratch built ones a Leman Russ or is it a mini lord of war lol
i play death skullz and i use alot of bitz for them. and i hear ya, but my group and i go on counts as. keep it up, good work man.
I am highly offended by this video!!!
Why have you not made more excellent tanks to show off. Can't wait for more updates. Keep up the good work mate.😀
Extra weapon - no, rest of all - absolutely yes.
"What you see is what you get"
Nice work.
You rant on mate ☺ I'm with your friend who said if you can point it out in the codex away you go!
Awesome to hear! Thanks!
Personally I love it! some fantastic tanks there. I don't see any issue with them as is, "counts as" works fine... but why not use the systems you've come up with. The 40k universe is huge and there will be variances.
And if that doesn't satisfy the naysayers, go for Chaos, mega conversion and scratch build options there, and try arguing the point of what daemons look like! They are described as nightmares given form, what does that look like? you guessed it, it's different for everyone.
If you can rant so can I :)
I dont care about the purists! Just do whatever your imagination commands you to! These are cool!
100%
No need for magnetic connections use blu tack
Looks cool!! Keep up the good work :)
Great work 😊
I will try to make some custom Leman Russ for me too, now ✌😊👍
Go for it! It's a lot of fun and no one else will have one just like it!
Cool tanks, man. :D Fuel that creativity, and make cool things that you enjoy, and like.
There is only one problem which I see and it is the double lascannon tank because the size of a lascannon actually physically can't fit on the sponsoon
Have you ever used Blood and Skulls Industries parts?
Does this still work in 2021? There's a new 40k club in my area starting soon.
I think it really all depends on your club. I've found that some folks are ok or actually encourage it. Some are very strict and real gate keepers. I wish you luck though!
There are thousands if not millions of worlds in the 40k-universe. So who says, every world has the same patterns for their vehicles? Even the official models from GW and Forge World have different schemes and nobody can say these are the only ones. There also where vehicle construction rules in the 3rd or 4th edition of 40k, where you could get rules and costs for selfmade vehicles. So noone has the right to say "It doesn't look like in the book so you can't play it."
I like your conversions and most likely would enjoy a game with you.
Rule of cool man hell I would probably use the extra weapons and play it like forge world stuff
big problem is a. making things wysiwyg as far as weapons so the missiles and the rotary cannons can cause confusion and b. way back before they dumbed down 40k there were rules with adding weapons to vehicles to make them custom. you just had to pay the points. as for the aesthetic of the main cannons you did, i can see a LITTLE confusion but no big deal and overall the tanks look great.
Rule of cool>almost everything else
Super cool!
Playing with modified rules for your modelling choices. You need a regular gaming group, sit down with them and discuss special rules, how much this costs pointwise and what its actual stat line is like and what buffs they can take if they want to level things out. Or play Orks then everything goes as looted vehicles with more DAKKKA added.
These are cool, you should try a ww2 style track conversion and have the side sponsons on the turret, I did it with the older leman russ kit turned out looking like a tiger tank on steroids which in my opinion made it better for 40k and fitted better with the look of my army
You seems be angry but keep cool , off course you do what you want ! Peace 🙏
I didn't meant to seem angry. More like frustrated. This video was a few years ago and I've learned a lot about playing the game since then.
if it is a friendly game, bring it and use it as you want. this wouldn't brother me a bit. although Tournaments might be a different situation. personally looking at doing something different for my dessert troops. i.E. German North Affrica WWII. Thanks for sharing.
For the Tsar that what I did, I made of tank afrika korps colors
Awesome.
a leman russ calliope
a million worlds, thousands of different forges and factories, no true 100% standardization (except munitions)...there will be differences in looks haha
dude loved your tanks don't worry about the naysayers because they,re jealous of your work.
laser destroyer bro
Did they ever get painted?
About half are fully painted. The rest are all base coated on Sombre Gray.
Are you going to a tournament? Ask the to has the final say. Anything that demands wysiwig is against the greater hobby of kitbashing and customization. Dont play with people that are picky with your models, its not worth the time. Also i tecommend playing orks because we highly appreciate custom jobs.
Your friends who said you can not do that are refering to wyzzy-wig : that is it has to be on model and can only be what is in rule set. That is for hard core tournament play and has no place in friendly games. As long as you inform you opponent what it is and stick to what you said it is all cool. So make your models how you think is cool. This is called the rule of cool or the rule of Dave ( if you are a miniwargaming fan). Your friends who insist that your army has to be modelled WYZZY-WIG are douches. Also you can use all imperial guard aet with a Tau force as Gue'vesa ( human helpers) or cooler painting up guards as Khorne Blood Pack cultist/ militia
Also, your friends who insist on WYZZY-WIG in friendly play are douches. Sorry to say that about your friends. but they are douches and I bet they play with very fluffy and cheesy- death-star formations. Most who insist on wyzzy-wig do push the rules and formations to near breaking point and play in a way that is about a subatomic particle above cheating.