What's funny is that apparently, in the planning stages of Ace Attorney, Payne was originally supposed to be a defense attorney rather than a prosecutor (he would've been the appointed attorney in Turnabout Sisters)
@@nouration9685 I'd rather guess he'd fill a role similar to what Grossberg ended having; a bad / compromised attorney that would fuck up / straight up refuse the case after Maya's request, leaving Phoenix with no choice but to represent her afterwards. Guess it didn't work at the end _(as maybe it'd be even more contrived than the game already is),_ and instead used the spritework and art they had to make him the tutorial prosecutor.
Edgeworth: calls another judge and franziska so nobody can find out that he's a prosecutor Payne: why can't I be both a prosecutor and a defense attorney
„What up Judge“ we barely starting and I'm done LMFAO About Von Karma asking whether Winston isn't a prosecutor - bold of anyone to assume he'd remember that Winston even exists
Edgeworth constantly forgets about him (failing to recognize him at the beginning of both Investigations games), so I could see that even more from Manfred
Wait so 1, this is amazing no doubts, 2, the judge stated about Edgeworth defending but also von Karma is here and stated about the perfect record. As well in part 3 it says von Karma ignored this then elevator and DL-6/Edgeworth trial. So is this before or after Turnabout goodbyes?
Since Edgeworth defends in T&T and T&T happens after Turnabout Goodbyes, it's safe to assume that it happens after TG. What doesn't make sense however is that Manfred is still here. Wasn't he arrested and executed? So it's kind of a paradox, and weird. Where did Manfred come from?
@@SandboxerSandy exactly that's what I'm saying. Also though at the end it says how Manfred says Payne ruined his perfect record but wouldn't count it meaning at the time he had a perfect record. Payne stated later he heard about von Karma being arrested for an elevator thing so it could be either
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What's funny is that apparently, in the planning stages of Ace Attorney, Payne was originally supposed to be a defense attorney rather than a prosecutor (he would've been the appointed attorney in Turnabout Sisters)
Wow I didn't know
so he would've been playable in his case instead of Phoenix ?
@@nouration9685 yeah I guess
@@nouration9685 I'd rather guess he'd fill a role similar to what Grossberg ended having; a bad / compromised attorney that would fuck up / straight up refuse the case after Maya's request, leaving Phoenix with no choice but to represent her afterwards. Guess it didn't work at the end _(as maybe it'd be even more contrived than the game already is),_ and instead used the spritework and art they had to make him the tutorial prosecutor.
Considering how goofy Payne looks like compared to Grossberg, Payne being a pushover "tutorial" character REALLY fits.
Edgeworth: calls another judge and franziska so nobody can find out that he's a prosecutor
Payne: why can't I be both a prosecutor and a defense attorney
But there's a difference
Edgeworth is famous, Payne is a Joe Schmo
@spiffymiddleschooler36 ...That held a perfect win record for *seven years.*
„What up Judge“ we barely starting and I'm done LMFAO
About Von Karma asking whether Winston isn't a prosecutor - bold of anyone to assume he'd remember that Winston even exists
lol
Edgeworth constantly forgets about him (failing to recognize him at the beginning of both Investigations games), so I could see that even more from Manfred
@@yokaipinata1416 Yea, exactly that's where I'm coming from:-D
Winston: Brings the Payne.
Deserves in smash i think
*OH GOD😭*
Here Comes the Payne
@SirWilfordIVgasp! i'm in pain.
"Prepare for the Payne Train." Love it.
Imagine a case where you can play as payne. But setup to lose because you can't update your autopsy report.
Winston is the most powerful character in the ace attorney series
To think... how powerful must he have been when he still had his hair?
@@fueselwe he would rival shaggy
@@xxcodmkid01xx58 he has been overexagerrated by the fans, and Kirby would still wreck him
His perfect win streak lasted longer than Edgeworth or Franziska
Man was not even a minute in and Von Karma's already having a hard time
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I find it funny how the judge mentioned the time Edgeworth was a defense attorney but von karma is the Prosecutor when he's supposed to be in jail
Fun fact : almost half of the prosecutors in this game have gone to jail
The only one who has never been in jail are both Payne (Paynes?), Klavier Gavin and Franziska
Nor did Miles Edgeworth, unless I’m forgetting something.
Turnabout Goodbyes and forgotten Turnabout
@@pinkhighheels ?
@@0Not_Important0 in turnabout goodbyes he was sent to the detention center (though he was proven to be not guilty)
The culprit is to be continued for always leaving cliffhangers
He is the best prosecutor/defense attorney he just lose front of rooke to give them motivation to be a lawyer
Fun Fact:
Winston Payne = wince in pain
Gaspen Payne = gasp in pain
No shit herlock
"alex be--" BRO THAT'S PHOENIX WRIGHT
My boy finally gets to be noticed for once
Objectioooooooon
you cannot be both a defense attorney and a prosecutor
edgeworth: *bonjour*
*Get ready for the Payne Train, Von Karma.*
who knew the true culprit was TO BE CONTINUED the whole time!?!?
0:31
Godot:
*how about I do **_anyway_*
*but in reverse*
*_yawyna_** od I tuoba woh*
TO BE CONTINUED DID IT
Prepare for the Payne Train
I like that high pitched objection from Payne
(I’m 25 seconds in) So Winston is secretly Apollo?
9/10 not enough forged evidence and posturing on the prosecution's part
Wai- Wai- Wai- Wait.
...Wait.
I thought Manfred gone missing after Turnabout Goodbyes.
time paradox especially given this apparently happens after bridge to the turnabout
actually he's dead not missing
0:53 wait the case take place after bridge to the turnabout but Von Karma is not in jail ? how is that possible ?
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Wincin Payne
@@tantris2876 Win Sin Paint
Ah, Winston Payne, The Glass Joe of this series
Who else just got this in their recommended?
So Phoenix has a twin named alex
That is propably his distant cousin or sumthing i dont kno
*WiNSton* *pAyNE*
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someone should make this into a rom hack now
Wait so 1, this is amazing no doubts, 2, the judge stated about Edgeworth defending but also von Karma is here and stated about the perfect record. As well in part 3 it says von Karma ignored this then elevator and DL-6/Edgeworth trial. So is this before or after Turnabout goodbyes?
I assume before and that was an over sight or something of the sort, I just thought I’d point it out. Even so this is honestly really good
Since Edgeworth defends in T&T and T&T happens after Turnabout Goodbyes, it's safe to assume that it happens after TG. What doesn't make sense however is that Manfred is still here. Wasn't he arrested and executed? So it's kind of a paradox, and weird. Where did Manfred come from?
@@SandboxerSandy exactly that's what I'm saying. Also though at the end it says how Manfred says Payne ruined his perfect record but wouldn't count it meaning at the time he had a perfect record. Payne stated later he heard about von Karma being arrested for an elevator thing so it could be either
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I mean, at least use a character not as professional as von Karma. Manfred von Karma wouldn't accidentally prove the defendant innocent
Maybe Young Edgeworth, or Gaspen.
Or make it like it's a dream of Winston's
Prosecutor larry butz
It was To Be Continued all along!
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Ah yes, the Family name first.
I like th iui s idea so much it should be an option
what music at 0:15
AJ:AA Objection
TO BE CONTINUED!? I KNEW HE WAS EVIL ALL ALONG!
Ah yes what a funny name *To Be Continued!*
Defense Prosecutor
Literally Edgeworth:
IT IS VERY MUCH WE
ahh yes very good i was afraid no one would ever make an acutal case!
Sub so i don't miss the next one.
Objectionnnnnnnnnn
Larry Butz is innocent
HEIL PAYNE 🙋♂️
TGAAR spoilers here lol
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