I do landscape design and installation, we don’t put bark next to water features for a reason, bark blows around and it will eventually fill up the pool with one good windy day... I would’ve placed rocks of different sizes around the border to give it a more natural look and help keep debris out....
... people have the tendency to believe that laying rocks around the edge of water features gives a natural look when actually it is complete the oppositte. There's nothing more artificial than that.
Another hidden benefit of these pools that David never mentions.... The planted zone absorbs the swim wakes. Traditional pools have vertical walls and splash waves bounce back making the water bumpy. These pools are calm.
probably green but maybe not he probably knows what he is doing. I have tried 2 ponds with filtration systems they never work always get murky and green with algae unless I am treating them daily.
John Doe the organic pool concept is very resistant to algae. The riparian area where the plants grow filter the water. More importantly the plants are grown in gravel substrate which is devoid of nutrients. No nutrients means the plants have to work hard for food starving out the algae.
Beautiful pools as always David, and truly truly your great humor is underrated thanks for making me laugh as a side effect of watching such marvelous natural swimming pools of yours.
I love this pool! Great work... I live in Thailand and will start building my own pool. Until so far I was only thinking Chlorine or Salt Water, but because my pond has such clear water with the way I filter and aereate it, I like to do the same with my pool. No chemicals but nice clean water... I think I'll learn a lot from your channel..!
Someday my husband and I are going to be building a rather large organic pool of our own on the west coast of canada. Would you be at all interested in coming and helping us get it set up?
I really like these and intend creating one but with a small solar powered rig to a battery house supplying two pumps on a timer, trying to be conservative and enviro friendly sort of thing with very little maintenance. We can only try right. Great work fellas✌🏻😎
I absolutely love these pools, David, you have done really well. So the concept is to use the bubbles to create a higher pressure on the sides pushing debris and stuff over to the sides where the 'garden' is?
yes you want water to flow into the regen zone so it filters and pump from the bottom of the zone through additional charcoal and other non-chemical filters before it gets bubbled or flowed back into the pool, the "bubblers" act as a deterrent for many insects but you essentially want the water to loop through the top of and through the zone so th eplants and limestone 'gravel' can filter most microbes they do consume on
I have a beach casa in Mexico. I'd love a small cool/plunge pool added in the intimate courtyard area that would hold say 3-4 people tops. Not a lap pool. Curious, can a natural pool survive in warmer climates to the South or more so can the various plants and flowers thrive through especially humid summer months e.g. iris and lilies?
really love this. would like to make one in Tasmania. however, i would need to heat it! i could use a DC pump to circulate water through a series of solar hot water panels probably? that will also create beneficial water flow. will need to figure out what heat tolerance our water plants can handle
A pond holding fish needs more pumps to be able to filter the ammonia that fish produce out of the water, this pool doesn't have fish so a LOT let ammonia, that's why it has smaller pumps and requires less electricity. A fishpond needs to filter all the water x times an hour and would be able to clean the green water (with the proper filter in place) within hours, not weeks. It's all about the liters per hour.
not necessarily. if your pond/pool is stocked correctly, and has enough plant load VS bio-load, it doesn't need any filter at all. look up the Walstad method. :)
That stained mulch is going to seep color into the pool every time it rains. I think the natural dirt walls around the pool likely need to be much less steep.
You could get the even more water crystal clear by using a UV steriliser but that would added another around 30-40 watts but you could turn that on at night because in the daytime it gets the UV naturally. Also if the liner had been white or light blue the light the middle wouldn't look so dark but maybe that's intended, none the less a great project by any means.
I'm noticing on this pond, that there is no defined exit point. There is a nice dock to jump in, but do people walk through the planting beds to get out? Curious. Thank You.
nice and all ,.. but i would've built it up all the way to the rock-wall. Although deeper & a greater area deeper, that would make filtration and water clarity more intense. The way it stands it's not even 6feet deep. All comes down to personal preference. That is totally understandable. As for me when i built my 20x40 w/4ft radius corners 5ft shallow with steep slope to 14ft deep end. I built deep so when using spring board(diving board) be less likely to hit bottom. 99% injuries using spring board was in 8ft deep pools & less. Also wanted a pool deep enough to be able to get scuba recertified. The deeper the better in that instance. Now if really think about it; how much time are you really going to be in that deep?? Other than scuba recert and occasionally diving from springboard there's not much use for that deep of a pool. Unless keeping fish and going with naturally filtering and so on. All that unused/wasted space tends to add up cost wise with maintenance; chemicals, electric bill(pump, lights, heater,etc..), upkeep for one season can run a bit pricey as well. As i wrote out this comment i started to understand the WHY as to WHY NOT when it comes to depth. Also starting to like the idea of Natural Pool/organic pool more and more... APOLOGIES FOR RAMBLING … HAVE A PLEASANT DAY FOLKS..
"nice and all BUT I WOULD HAVE, this and that, built it this built it that.. deeper and greater, the way it is ITS NOT EVEN 6 ft deep..." actually never mind everything I just said is a moot point bc its personal preference... idiot. smh
i wonder if the black liner pollutes the soil over the time by breaking down to microplastics. if so i'd like to know there is a more environment friendly alternative of that.
Really enjoy your uploads. How would these pools work in south west France? ie heat in summer, plants, keeping some wildlife out(Coypus) and mosquitoes.
incorporate one more pump and move the pond to partial shade. Populate the lake with one male large mouth bass. Nothing gets alive from that pond, next to that guy ... except humans. Large mouth bass is a lake TERMINATOR equipped with electric sensors. It will devour even poisonous snakes and small birds. Loves eating frogs...
I am seriously considering an organic pool for my backyard. I was thinking about using Line-X, which is a spray-in truck bed liner, as the liner for the pool. Could I get your thoughts on this, please?
Ehh ehh calm down calm down lol. Not bad from a scouser. Completely brilliant and completely beautiful. 2 in 1. Looks completely natural and not a nasty false American pool. Love it.
I honestly don’t see how it’s organic with plastic and plastic felt liners. Plus the concrete is probably Virgin concrete. It’s beautiful, but there are better ways to make it stand up to the “organic” label that was put on it.
Mosquito larva dwell more in stagnant water like the puddle inside an old tire. this pool's water is constantly moving with the rippling surfaces due to air stones in the bubbling pvc pipes you see around the pool's plant and substrate edge.
Lol, you going to send water samples off to a lab every day paying $$ to test for pathogens??? This not like doing a pH test on your pool water with a home test kit....
No Chlorine or other chemical used to keep the water crystal clear, instead aquatic plants are placed around pond to starve algae from growing by sucking all the nutrient in the water. Low maintenance, less electricity (as that man in red t-shirt said, 35 watt vs 500 watt(?), also safer since you're not exposing yourself to chemical compared to typical swimming pool.
The only thing Im apprehensive about with organic pools is what happens if you get a deadly flesh eating bacteria like meningitis or brain amoebas? What is stopping them? Dunno about meningitis in lakes but I know brain amoebas are only found in natural bodies of water.
yes, but you can have nasty things in pools too. honestly, nature can handle itself better than we believe, and we are much less in need of man-made perfectionistic unnatural alterations than we think. hundreds of people (including me) swim in lakes, rivers, oceans, and ponds their whole lives and are perfectly fine.
allen dabold yeah, you could. It functions as a large aquarium using biological filtration. If you know anything about aquariums, it’s the same concept only on a much larger scale.
you would however need some fish nutrient food since the pool will lack in primary feed fro them, and then your just going to be swimming in fish piss and plops at times, btw all urea is ammonia chemical and needs to be filtered so better hope it has charcoal filtration along with a UV filtration tube
Lol charcoal and uv do nothing for ammonia. Thats what beneficial bacteria and active chemical filtration (purigen, chemipure etc.) is for. Have you ever swam in a lake or the ocean? That is "swimming in fish piss and plops"
Why do they call a man made pond with plastic tubing, plastic liner, and concrete organic? If it was organic it wouldn't need a filter to keep it clear, and it wouldn't be clear.
Finally, a good question, and like all good questions, it got no answer. I don't believe he does. There is no way to threat that in such pond. Even in chlorinated water, you can find them. Maybe additional UV filter can fix the issue, but it is a very resistant strain.
I think this might be my favourite installation I've seen
My favorite part was where you were nonchalantly looking out the window while filming yourself, lol.
Great video by the way.
“...nonchalantly looking out the window, while filming myself.”
Lololololololololol
I do landscape design and installation, we don’t put bark next to water features for a reason, bark blows around and it will eventually fill up the pool with one good windy day... I would’ve placed rocks of different sizes around the border to give it a more natural look and help keep debris out....
... people have the tendency to believe that laying rocks around the edge of water features gives a natural look when actually it is complete the oppositte. There's nothing more artificial than that.
Another hidden benefit of these pools that David never mentions.... The planted zone absorbs the swim wakes. Traditional pools have vertical walls and splash waves bounce back making the water bumpy. These pools are calm.
I'ld be interested in seeing their pool within a few months/one year to see how it evolves.
probably green but maybe not he probably knows what he is doing. I have tried 2 ponds with filtration systems they never work always get murky and green with algae unless I am treating them daily.
get uv sterilizer
John Doe the organic pool concept is very resistant to algae. The riparian area where the plants grow filter the water. More importantly the plants are grown in gravel substrate which is devoid of nutrients. No nutrients means the plants have to work hard for food starving out the algae.
frozen over
It's going to evolve into a swamp
Beautiful pools as always David, and truly truly your great humor is underrated thanks for making me laugh as a side effect of watching such marvelous natural swimming pools of yours.
I love this pool! Great work... I live in Thailand and will start building my own pool. Until so far I was only thinking Chlorine or Salt Water, but because my pond has such clear water with the way I filter and aereate it, I like to do the same with my pool. No chemicals but nice clean water... I think I'll learn a lot from your channel..!
Looking forward to your success story!
Someday my husband and I are going to be building a rather large organic pool of our own on the west coast of canada. Would you be at all interested in coming and helping us get it set up?
I really like these and intend creating one but with a small solar powered rig to a battery house supplying two pumps on a timer, trying to be conservative and enviro friendly sort of thing with very little maintenance. We can only try right. Great work fellas✌🏻😎
Dared to swim from one end to the other Richard eventually drowned in the organic ROUND pool after several hours of swimming.
That's funny
Yes. I was wondering how one would get out? Elbows up on the decking or is there a ladder we didn’t see?
I absolutely love these pools, David, you have done really well. So the concept is to use the bubbles to create a higher pressure on the sides pushing debris and stuff over to the sides where the 'garden' is?
yes you want water to flow into the regen zone so it filters and pump from the bottom of the zone through additional charcoal and other non-chemical filters before it gets bubbled or flowed back into the pool, the "bubblers" act as a deterrent for many insects but you essentially want the water to loop through the top of and through the zone so th eplants and limestone 'gravel' can filter most microbes they do consume on
Lovely indeed, Richard, very lovely!!!
I have a beach casa in Mexico. I'd love a small cool/plunge pool added in the intimate courtyard area that would hold say 3-4 people tops. Not a lap pool. Curious, can a natural pool survive in warmer climates to the South or more so can the various plants and flowers thrive through especially humid summer months e.g. iris and lilies?
really love this. would like to make one in Tasmania. however, i would need to heat it! i could use a DC pump to circulate water through a series of solar hot water panels probably? that will also create beneficial water flow. will need to figure out what heat tolerance our water plants can handle
A pond holding fish needs more pumps to be able to filter the ammonia that fish produce out of the water, this pool doesn't have fish so a LOT let ammonia, that's why it has smaller pumps and requires less electricity. A fishpond needs to filter all the water x times an hour and would be able to clean the green water (with the proper filter in place) within hours, not weeks. It's all about the liters per hour.
not necessarily. if your pond/pool is stocked correctly, and has enough plant load VS bio-load, it doesn't need any filter at all. look up the Walstad method. :)
Wouldn't the rain eventually wash all that dirt down hill into the pond/pool?
That's why its planted
That stained mulch is going to seep color into the pool every time it rains. I think the natural dirt walls around the pool likely need to be much less steep.
You could get the even more water crystal clear by using a UV steriliser but that would added another around 30-40 watts but you could turn that on at night because in the daytime it gets the UV naturally. Also if the liner had been white or light blue the light the middle wouldn't look so dark but maybe that's intended, none the less a great project by any means.
Looks nice! How's it held up over time? Do you do a seasonal cleaning?
Absolutely love it! My favourite is 1:35 looking out the window :)
I'm noticing on this pond, that there is no defined exit point. There is a nice dock to jump in, but do people walk through the planting beds to get out? Curious. Thank You.
Awesome, I want one. Do you need zoning permission for this. Fees , inspections and all that bureaucracy?
WOW. This is FANTASTIC!
Excellent build looks truly amazing!
How is the pump system designed? How are you able to pump and use such a low amount of energy? THX! :))
This size and design is perfect for me. What would be the ball park cost of this pool if I'm doing it myself?
Love your pool projects 🥰🥰
1:14 How carefully you folded the liner - a great job!
Very cool! Mind sharing the approx cost?
So much more beautiful than the traditional cement pond… 👍🏼🥰
nice and all ,.. but i would've built it up all the way to the rock-wall. Although deeper & a greater area deeper, that would make filtration and water clarity more intense. The way it stands it's not even 6feet deep. All comes down to personal preference. That is totally understandable. As for me when i built my 20x40 w/4ft radius corners 5ft shallow with steep slope to 14ft deep end. I built deep so when using spring board(diving board) be less likely to hit bottom. 99% injuries using spring board was in 8ft deep pools & less. Also wanted a pool deep enough to be able to get scuba recertified. The deeper the better in that instance. Now if really think about it; how much time are you really going to be in that deep?? Other than scuba recert and occasionally diving from springboard there's not much use for that deep of a pool. Unless keeping fish and going with naturally filtering and so on. All that unused/wasted space tends to add up cost wise with maintenance; chemicals, electric bill(pump, lights, heater,etc..), upkeep for one season can run a bit pricey as well. As i wrote out this comment i started to understand the WHY as to WHY NOT when it comes to depth. Also starting to like the idea of Natural Pool/organic pool more and more... APOLOGIES FOR RAMBLING … HAVE A PLEASANT DAY FOLKS..
Do you see a fucking springboard installed here... this is a small relaxing project without that interest lmao...
AS I PREVIOUSLY STATED SMARTASS,.. COMES DOWN TO PERSONAL PREFERENCE!!! SMH....
"nice and all BUT I WOULD HAVE, this and that, built it this built it that.. deeper and greater, the way it is ITS NOT EVEN 6 ft deep..." actually never mind everything I just said is a moot point bc its personal preference... idiot. smh
I've seen alot of your videos. I plan on buying the book, and DVD digital download. I want to build a pool in my backyard.
my god that is gorgeous
Nice :D but why are the plants in pots still? Would you grow edible plants in the planted zone?
Pond plants tend to expand a lot and pots are a good way to keep them in place.
Yes, edibles can be grown in a similar pool.
i wonder if the black liner pollutes the soil over the time by breaking down to microplastics. if so i'd like to know there is a more environment friendly alternative of that.
I didn’t expect him to be as funny as he was
Really enjoy your uploads. How would these pools work in south west France? ie heat in summer, plants, keeping some wildlife out(Coypus) and mosquitoes.
incorporate one more pump and move the pond to partial shade. Populate the lake with one male large mouth bass. Nothing gets alive from that pond, next to that guy ... except humans. Large mouth bass is a lake TERMINATOR equipped with electric sensors. It will devour even poisonous snakes and small birds. Loves eating frogs...
yes its a real question, if people use concrete anyway, then why not use fluid applied stuff instead the big bi black foil?
If you built something exactly like that and used it for a small amount of fish would it maintain its clarity?
No, you will need mush faster circulation. You will need to filter the total volume of the pool at least once in 3h. One bigger fish - maybe...
Hi David my name is Manuel will this organic pool work like in Canada where the temperature dips down to -20
TIP: magic Eraser in filter or water removes Algi in a day. Looks amazing.
Thanks for sharing.
This pool is stunning
Since you have a raised edge to the pool does the water runnoff cause debris to go into it ?
Out of interest, was this filled with tap water/rainwater or a mix? I know rainwater is recommended but we’re all impatient creatures!
where do you live that tap water has chlorine in it?
The chlorine in tap water off-gases within about a day or so.
wait do you live in the US? when did they stop being a 3rd world country?
@Dongs chlorine burns off in UV light. a 20,000 L pool is chlorine free in 3.5 days
@@danielcjtodd Chloramine are more stable than chlorine, they break down into it over several weeks...
do you have the pump/compressor they use? i found in your pdf one, but i cannot find it here in mexico
How do you stop heavy rain washing dirt into the pool?
I am seriously considering an organic pool for my backyard. I was thinking about using Line-X, which is a spray-in truck bed liner, as the liner for the pool. Could I get your thoughts on this, please?
They make products just for it that are safe on fish/wildlife. Check out pond armor, pond guard, liquid rubber, etc.
Is it more expensive to create this type of pool versus the traditional way?
Do animals ever end up in the pool mistaking it for a pond?
Ehh ehh calm down calm down lol. Not bad from a scouser. Completely brilliant and completely beautiful. 2 in 1. Looks completely natural and not a nasty false American pool. Love it.
So, they don't have any water snakes in Cornwall?
I am actually building one
The youtuber he actually sell the organic natural filters on his page , check his channel and u will see how they work and what kind of filter is it
Electric pumsp, plastic and vinyl liners, concrete and preformed blocks, manually imported water ... yeah, sound ORGANIC to me!
This is my dream. To have a pool suitable for relaxation and aquascaped to perfection.
Mr. Butler, do you do consultations in the United States?
We are thinking of having one of these... what are the cost of building this size?
Awosome
Can liners have seams or do they have to be all one piece?
low cost community versions of them should be built, they can be great for children.
Still laughing @ 1:40. lol Love it!
Adverts by Roundup when I start this video,irony anyone?
hello, I'm interested to make a organic in Portugal, how can I get more information?
Is it possible to build a semi-olympic organic pool?
maronin' I believe so. You may need stronger pump and substantial planted area. I’ve seen them quite large.
DIY is the way to go
How do u get ride of the algae still in the deep part out?
I would like to know the size of the air pump and air lines being used please. I bought Davids video but it doesn't talk about that., Thanks
That opening scene could have completely confused me for James May.
Are these pools winter hardy?
Hey there! What kind of pump do yall use with this pool?
no pump at all. The water is being circulated by bubbles produced by an air compressor.
How does the pump system work?
Does anyone know the price of his system?
How did I get here
good question and thus do not have an answer to and was unhelpful in this case for you (moves along)
I want help building a pond....
I honestly don’t see how it’s organic with plastic and plastic felt liners. Plus the concrete is probably Virgin concrete. It’s beautiful, but there are better ways to make it stand up to the “organic” label that was put on it.
Awesome pool
What about mosquitoes?
Mosquito larva dwell more in stagnant water like the puddle inside an old tire. this pool's water is constantly moving with the rippling surfaces due to air stones in the bubbling pvc pipes you see around the pool's plant and substrate edge.
hermosas pscinas my friend .,.,saludos desde Mexico!!!
how is the water made to look green?
anti zionist watch some of the other vids on his channel , they paint the bottom green
I need to buy a house and install a microlake like this!!! :D
How easy is it to set up systems like this in arid climates, such as those found in Arizona?
Or how hard, as the case may be?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naegleria_fowleri
Lol, you going to send water samples off to a lab every day paying $$ to test for pathogens??? This not like doing a pH test on your pool water with a home test kit....
"such as those found in Arizona", yeah it does not get hot in a desert like arizona...
the hard part is not making the pool but finding water in arid area :P
Who was the pregnant lady at the first of the video?
1:08 to 1:09, how?
? So how is organic?
I understand in modern times
you have cement and pump...
No Chlorine or other chemical used to keep the water crystal clear, instead aquatic plants are placed around pond to starve algae from growing by sucking all the nutrient in the water. Low maintenance, less electricity (as that man in red t-shirt said, 35 watt vs 500 watt(?), also safer since you're not exposing yourself to chemical compared to typical swimming pool.
Do you get snakes in there?
How much does this cost on average?
looksgoodonpaper I’m asking the same 🤷🏽♂️
DIY = cement cost :P
in USa it would cost between 15 and 50k or more if you like to go large pond size such as olympic size
A pool in UK ?!
The only thing Im apprehensive about with organic pools is what happens if you get a deadly flesh eating bacteria like meningitis or brain amoebas? What is stopping them? Dunno about meningitis in lakes but I know brain amoebas are only found in natural bodies of water.
The amoeba is only found in bodies of stagnant water with no other organisms in it. It can't thrive in a living environment.
yes, but you can have nasty things in pools too. honestly, nature can handle itself better than we believe, and we are much less in need of man-made perfectionistic unnatural alterations than we think. hundreds of people (including me) swim in lakes, rivers, oceans, and ponds their whole lives and are perfectly fine.
So you do swim in lakes then?
They should have the pool so it has a ocean view.
Why do you call it an organic pool when you’ve used so much plastic for it?
I want a pool like this
Those three big pumps, never have only 35 watts. Even a hand drilling Maschine has 350 W.
watch it again. Those pumps where running his other pool and were nearly 1k watt.
Can you have fish in the pool?
allen dabold yeah, you could. It functions as a large aquarium using biological filtration. If you know anything about aquariums, it’s the same concept only on a much larger scale.
of coz u can, it has no chemicals, all natural
you would however need some fish nutrient food since the pool will lack in primary feed fro them, and then your just going to be swimming in fish piss and plops at times, btw all urea is ammonia chemical and needs to be filtered so better hope it has charcoal filtration along with a UV filtration tube
Lol charcoal and uv do nothing for ammonia. Thats what beneficial bacteria and active chemical filtration (purigen, chemipure etc.) is for. Have you ever swam in a lake or the ocean? That is "swimming in fish piss and plops"
No mosquitos?
You are using filters as usual?
I was wondering the same. How and where is the filter
35 watts per month? Per day?
Usually when we talk about a machine power rating (pump using 35W) it means W/h.
About 15 times cheaper than a traditional pump.
Why do they call a man made pond with plastic tubing, plastic liner, and concrete organic? If it was organic it wouldn't need a filter to keep it clear, and it wouldn't be clear.
if it was healthy and truly organic, it would be clear. look at lakes and stuff.
Hi sir,
Your voice tone and accent like James May
, or are you "captain slow" ?
I seriously thought he was May...I was half expecting the hamster to come out of left field with burning Toyota or something.
Sweet pool
Very Impressive
Hi david how do you deal with cryptosporidium?
SDD525 how about you @ someone who gives a fuck you imvilid spac
SDD525 typical racist doesn’t even know the difference between invalid and imvlilid.
what is this conversation lol
Finally, a good question, and like all good questions, it got no answer. I don't believe he does. There is no way to threat that in such pond. Even in chlorinated water, you can find them. Maybe additional UV filter can fix the issue, but it is a very resistant strain.
Nothing more organic than laying down a bunch of plastic.