Aero Bike Or Road Bike? | The New Canyon Aeroad First Look

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  • The brand new Canyon Aeroad is a pretty special machine, pushing the boundaries that the previous edition of the Aeroad had already stretched. We recently got our hands on this machine and it got us thinking, an aero optimised road bike that's under the UCI weight limit...does this mean the end of the 'Aero road bike'?...
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  • @handoekjes
    @handoekjes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +353

    Last time I was this early matt was still here... I miss him

    • @maxtdc3821
      @maxtdc3821 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I still don't know what happened to him someone tell me plz

    • @manitolas
      @manitolas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He goes to sigma sports for a new job

    • @All4Grogg
      @All4Grogg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      He's currently at the Giro as a commentator. Flobike coverage in the US.

    • @johnora3857
      @johnora3857 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Matt from Carwow?

    • @armadillito
      @armadillito 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@johnora3857 no, but that would be one hell of a crossover. Video on best cars for cyclists? Sponsored by skoda probably.

  • @cmx2828
    @cmx2828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    The best thing about the bike is the self-destructing of the seat post from the factory :)

    • @OFFSHOREDOUG
      @OFFSHOREDOUG 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Or is it the handlebars?🙈🙈

    • @jemm.8277
      @jemm.8277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@OFFSHOREDOUG both

    • @Jules.C.
      @Jules.C. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Rodrigo Lawrence bot

    • @alpsalish
      @alpsalish 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Both!

  • @DoktorOste
    @DoktorOste 4 ปีที่แล้ว +140

    Appreciate how they didn’t use a normal bike stand but a simple wooden stick they probably found on the street to present the Aeroad - see 0:12

    • @rhysrunsriot
      @rhysrunsriot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      You are completely wrong, that is the aerostick 9.0, and a lot of time went into engineering that.

    • @rabomarc
      @rabomarc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Using random wooden sticks as bike stands is a part of cycling legacy.

    • @aliafan7357
      @aliafan7357 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I’m using my helmet as a bike stand 🤔

    • @RobBelanger
      @RobBelanger 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      ali afan that’s cool but please don’t use a stick as a helmet :-)

    • @nwbcycling5236
      @nwbcycling5236 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@RobBelanger so hilarious man

  • @andrifsig
    @andrifsig 4 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    Si: "The Areobike is dead, long live the roadbike"
    This quote coming right off the heels of a video where Si beats two roadies on a TT bike which is in reality the ultimate Aero bike!

    • @KekusMagnus
      @KekusMagnus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      he's talking about UCI compliant bikes, TT bikes are fun until you realise you cant take them to most cycling events

    • @andrifsig
      @andrifsig 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KekusMagnus dont let the truth get in the way of a good story... ;)

    • @Asgarniane
      @Asgarniane 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      f*** reason when you're paid to promote? 😂 The two roadies vs TT was at least kinda fun. Though one can't help but wonder if Si would actually really beat them or did they lose on purpose just so they could market the TT bike better...

    • @nicholassmith831
      @nicholassmith831 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've yet to watch this vid - where was the spoiler alert? ;)

    • @andrifsig
      @andrifsig 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nicholassmith831 sorry man. Kind of assumed that everyone was up to date. Wont happen again... :)

  • @khaderach19
    @khaderach19 4 ปีที่แล้ว +551

    Every time I hear "Canyon Aeroad" I hear "Canyonaro" ala the simpsons

    • @Enzo575
      @Enzo575 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Plot twist...the guys who designed the bike ARE Simpsons fans

    • @barnowl2832
      @barnowl2832 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      unexplained fires are for the courts to explain!

    • @BoiseTriathlete
      @BoiseTriathlete 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      That bike smells like a steak and seats 35 ... yee-haw

    • @2PengBristol
      @2PengBristol 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Still can’t believe Homers car wasn’t a best seller

    • @ECTproCycling
      @ECTproCycling 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      :D :D so true

  • @Mannerzs
    @Mannerzs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Definitely agree with Simon's analysis, this new aero bike will appeal to many more so than a traditional aero bike, something you could ride hills or TT etc. Great for everything, I like the newer look, modern and clean, less conspicuous.

    • @alpsalish
      @alpsalish 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is an aero bike......

  • @williamsanders
    @williamsanders 4 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    It's a nice bike, with a lot of technology in & behind it... But what I did notice on those CFR models is how "un-crisp" the paint transition is between the black & champagne sparkle. Ragged edges. It's a bit of a cosmetic letdown, especially at that pricepoint. Also rather boring colour-schemes across the entire 2021 range, and a paint-scheme directly derived from the Trek Madone (and Cannondale as well) with the slanted headtube transition, going away from their own style which was instantly recognisable tbh. If Canyon has the guts to bring out a magenta pink CF SLX Inflite to go with their wasp-yellow one, then why do all the roadbikes have to be as inconspicuous and boring as can be in terms of colours?
    TLDR: love the frames, love the technology, don't like the finish.

    • @michalhosala4708
      @michalhosala4708 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was surprised to see it myself too on this level. My ultimate has a top of top tube of a different color than the rest of the frame and there is such a terrible transition that you can almost cut your hand on it. Already made a bit of damage to my bibs when riding aero. I originally thought they forgot to put a lack on that part and made a warranty claim but they told me it is a feature ... :D

    • @cesar0684
      @cesar0684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I completely agree. I have the previous version of this bike in a SL version, and I absolutely love it. But been totally honest, I was a bit let down by the finish, and until I read this, I thought it was just a quality issue with my own bike; but sounds like they're all the same. But then again, I mount on it and totally forget about it, and just enjoy the ride. I'd still buy it again.

    • @jameswestgate4896
      @jameswestgate4896 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mine is a whIte frame with a sticker for the black part on top

  • @andreluissilva869
    @andreluissilva869 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    6:43, my heart is racing after see this di2 cable stretched

    • @kayvankarimi6360
      @kayvankarimi6360 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      oh yeh well spotted

    • @leslie7922
      @leslie7922 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh yuck that cable

    • @adibazi
      @adibazi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      shorter cable = less weight

  • @shafeezjamaludin7383
    @shafeezjamaludin7383 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The best thing about Aero Bike is it was multipurpose ...
    You can used it as TT Bike as well by just changing it's handlebar to TT cockpit. ..
    I used to have Giant Propel Aero Bike and it's works perfectly as TT Bike when I change to TT cockpit ... I play Triathlon with it several times including Ironman 👍👍👍

  • @iainrhill66
    @iainrhill66 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Hi GCN team, love all the content... you ride it some great locations. It’s always interesting to know where if you could include a graphic into the videos or a gps route in the comments please. Thanks

    • @floydie9255
      @floydie9255 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This was filmed around Cheddar Gorge.

    • @drummerman122
      @drummerman122 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      They film a lot in the South West of England as that’s where they are based. Most of the footage in this video was Cheddar Gorge.

    • @jirdesteva
      @jirdesteva 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@floydie9255 Adding to my want to ride there list.

  • @ricky7396
    @ricky7396 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Interesting was torn between canyon and giant. Pulled the trigger on the 2021 giant tcr advanced pro 0. Think I made the right call.

    • @HkFinn83
      @HkFinn83 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      For sure

  • @markj.a351
    @markj.a351 4 ปีที่แล้ว +266

    You can tell it's good because they pay so much to advertise it.

    • @bengarside79
      @bengarside79 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I'm getting a bit sick of all the paid promotion now.. I'm realistic but seems to be every third video at the moment!

    • @danielab708
      @danielab708 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Canyon produces great Bikes und spend large amounts of money for Marketing, but regarding costumer Support (in germany) they suck so much.

    • @azurecoast45
      @azurecoast45 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bengarside79 Yeah, but such is media these days. I mean we are on here watching for free, so..

    • @GregLanz
      @GregLanz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is too much, I just don't find canyon's at all compelling, they kind of seem desperate and they're trying too hard

    • @maurodebaets
      @maurodebaets 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dsdf_fdp1858 just leave, bye

  • @Chris-0703
    @Chris-0703 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    All of these new “hybrid” aero/light race bikes are super stiff and more twitchy. Unless you are racing or are surrounded by the smoothest tarmac on earth, none of the watts savings matter if your body is exhausted from road vibration after 25 miles. I have an Ultimate CF SLX 9.0 and maybe the Tour data says that I’m losing ~2 minutes over 3 hours, but if you told me you’d swap the new Aeroad for free I’ll pass. I’m faster when I’m comfortable and enjoying my ride.

  • @moncier77
    @moncier77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I have the Canyon Endurance and I love it!

  • @RepsacZ
    @RepsacZ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    OK check this out: the 7 watt saving is WITHOUT RIDER in a windtunnel. And as the cables are now fully internal versus external, which saves some watts ... did the frame itself actually get any faster? ....

    • @jimmyhor78
      @jimmyhor78 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Good question. In fact the savings are just 5 watts with the rider. Hidden cables saves about 2 watts typically. So the other 3 watts would come from the frame itself. Mainly the deeper seat tube/ seatpost and better shielded bottles. Not surprising as the seatpost are partly in the huge wake generated by the cylindrical legs of rider. However 5w is enough to match (or slightly beat) the System six which is considered the most aerodynamic bike currently.

    • @prestachuck2867
      @prestachuck2867 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bicycle companies are doing their wind tunnel testing wrong anyway. Unless the bike is intended for indoor use only. Hambini has an excellent video that explains in detail why.

    • @aloxbalox4801
      @aloxbalox4801 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The thing is that is also weights more than the previous bike (correct me when I’m Rong) and I think that isnt even calculated into the wats in the windtunnel

    • @dafj5618
      @dafj5618 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Presta chuck Hambini got exposed for faking wind tunnel data on slowtwitch forum

    • @jimmyhor78
      @jimmyhor78 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dafj5618 That's interesting. How did they know he faked?

  • @kodakblack1069
    @kodakblack1069 4 ปีที่แล้ว +182

    The secret is in the “Paid Promotion” disclaimer.

    • @krazed9918
      @krazed9918 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Fuck it, I'll take Canyon paid promotion all day long. They're one of the very few direct-to-consumer manufacturers and they give the same performance for thousands less, and as a cyclist I think that's what we need to see. I'm personally riding a Cannondale and my LBS buying experience was kinda crappy, I'll definitely be moving to Canyon for my next purchase.

    • @tc4724
      @tc4724 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@krazed9918 Bargain prices too since its cheaper for direct to consumer ........

    • @johnm91326
      @johnm91326 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@krazed9918Canyon is no cheaper than big brands like Giant or Merida, that both manage to be in physical stores.

    • @SethNeverEnds
      @SethNeverEnds 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@krazed9918 I did just that. bike is on the way. excited!

    • @josephalbanese1393
      @josephalbanese1393 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nonsense

  • @brianmessemer2973
    @brianmessemer2973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Tell you what: that first Gen Aeroad at 1:16 is SMOKING HOT 🔥

    • @2PengBristol
      @2PengBristol 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Best looking design they’ve produced

  • @bmmaia81
    @bmmaia81 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    Hey CGN, other channels reported flex in the cockpit. What’s your opinion on that? Does it flex? If yes, does it flex always or just when stretched?

    • @MrFornicater
      @MrFornicater 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Surely you don't think you'll get an honest reply, do you?

    • @bmmaia81
      @bmmaia81 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MrFornicater th-cam.com/video/1gX813FhJEw/w-d-xo.html is it the same cockpit here? If it is, it doesn't appear to have any issue.

    • @Thiiryon
      @Thiiryon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't know, it doesn't seem to bother Mathieu Van der Poel, or he wouldn't be using it. If it's stiff enough for him, it's stiff enough for me.

    • @bmmaia81
      @bmmaia81 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Thiiryon yes and no. If you’re not ridding perfect tarmac like he does maybe theres an issue. Or the slight flex is there because the frame is so stiff. I don’t know. What is bothering me is the diference in width on the weels. Why 17 and 20? Is there any disadvantage in equal wheels and just change the tyre?

    • @barmouthbridge8772
      @barmouthbridge8772 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Thiiryon it now bothers him. quite a lot.

  • @simonrano8072
    @simonrano8072 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Marketing : "after 4 intense years of CFD they saved a wopping 11 Watts and just had to shed 4 of them to get a great bike"
    Reality : "after 4 years of CFD they merley saved 11 watts and had to sacrifice a third of that gain to make de bike handeling correctly"

    • @gthack371
      @gthack371 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think they made it lighter too? For those for whom buying this bike is an option, I suspect it matters. The cockpit adjustability is also pretty neat. This bike isn't an option for me, but it still looks and sounds like a great bike

    • @jangold4652
      @jangold4652 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean if you look at the top top end you cant really go much better

    • @simonrano8072
      @simonrano8072 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gthack371 the cockpit didn't aged well XD

    • @gthack371
      @gthack371 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@simonrano8072 oh dear, what did I miss? Not been keeping up with the cycling news recently...

    • @simonrano8072
      @simonrano8072 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gthack371 MVDP handlebar snapped during a race earlier this season, Canyon advised all users to stop riding their bike until further notice.

  • @mikeburton8426
    @mikeburton8426 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That is a beautiful machine. Aero used to mean “uncomfortable” and light used to mean “climbing” bike. If this is really an aero all rounder that would be great. Like a Venge you can ride all day? I really like the aesthetic of internal cabling but function needs to win over form. When I built my Allez Sprint with cables that looked tight and awesome but I had limited handlebar range of motion I considered it a failure and re did it.

  • @shubhank20
    @shubhank20 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You guys are just having some good fun in this stupid lockdown good job mates keep these vids coming

  • @ExplosiveNotes
    @ExplosiveNotes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    "43 cm for the full chopper expirience" heard that, looked at 76 cm bars on my MTB, giggled and was well entertained.

    • @Rover200Power
      @Rover200Power 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My road bike even came with 44cm bars out of the factory. Si must be on something.

    • @honkhonkler7532
      @honkhonkler7532 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      In my opinion, drop bar manufacturers should move on from the old 40-42-44 cm standard sizing to ~38-40-42 cm sizing to suit people's actual spacing between their shoulder joints and not apply some arbitrary +2 cm rule.

    • @mrvwbug4423
      @mrvwbug4423 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So if 43cm is chopper bars, what does that make the 78cm bars on my MTB haha

    • @cjohnson3836
      @cjohnson3836 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The plus tire bike I ride around on daily is currently (and will probably stay) 80cm. Its way too awkward getting on a tiny roadie bike anymore

    • @HkFinn83
      @HkFinn83 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cjohnson3836 and the reverse is true as well, riding a super slow mtb like that on anything but trails is a miserable experience

  • @danielmacdonald4005
    @danielmacdonald4005 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    What is the watt saving when riding at 32kph ? I'm generally only achieving 45 when going downhill. Is there a benefit to aero when riding at a normal amateur speed of 20mph? If there isn't, may as well keep the 5k.

    • @manutavano
      @manutavano 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      get those 5k and travel with your bike it'll be more fun

    • @slayergut
      @slayergut 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yea and how much of those savings will i retain when im drafting like a tortoise behind my mates?

  • @joshwilliams6849
    @joshwilliams6849 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Everybody keeps glossing over the handlebars that are essentially in three pieces. There is no way they can be as good at damping vibrations/feel as solid as a traditional handlebar. It feels like a solution to a Canyon problem (shipping) not a consumer one.

    • @ThorDyrden
      @ThorDyrden 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You are probably right, that solving the shipping-challenge of an integrated cockpit was high priority for Canyon. But it's also beneficial for every buyer who wants to travel with his bike.. which for such high-priced bikes is not unlikely to go to training-camp.
      On the other hand - there is rumor a one piece integrated cockpit is coming as alternative for those willing to invest the extra effort and money to further customize their bike for probably weight-saving and accept the tradeoff in transport-flexibility.

    • @carly200
      @carly200 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hi, I think it is a consumer problem as well. Integrated cockpits are a mess to travel or adjust or recable. And I hope that you are not right in that it is worse than a one piece cokcpit. But time will tell.

    • @big_icky
      @big_icky 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Why would segmentation translate to worse damping of vibration?

    • @joshwilliams6849
      @joshwilliams6849 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@big_icky Because is introduces the need for a tolerance clearance that wasn't previously there. Where the handlebars slide within the main section there has to be a gap no matter how tight the fit. I suspect (I could very much be wrong) that the bars will have a degree of vertical travel that would not otherwise be there. This will also be worse the wider the setting you have the handlebars at.

    • @DPS-Runner_Cyclist
      @DPS-Runner_Cyclist 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Josh Williams I was wondering the same thing...would there be a flex issue when sprinting or grinding up a tough climb? I do like the width adjustability, but as with everything, there is a trade-off.

  • @bugboy152000
    @bugboy152000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    #GCN I think the most story here is the change in geometry. I have a 2018 Aeroad and have resisted the pressure to slam the stem to be in a "Race/Aero" position. I kept my bars at the top of the chimney and now feel validated that Canyon made the same change back to a more comfortable position. Trends will always be a part of bike marketing I suppose.

    • @tobiasbouma4071
      @tobiasbouma4071 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah same, it took me two years to get used to the two spacer position (big one and small one) though it should be added I'm a size smaller frame than suggested for my weight. It is quite frankly ludicrous how low you can get on an Aeroad and completely excessive.

  • @ianw3811
    @ianw3811 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "Mullet tires, business up front, party at the back" Love the mountain bike reference!!

  • @hernendezsanchez7646
    @hernendezsanchez7646 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like it. The fact that you can adjust the width on your bars is the new game changer. ? Stuck with 43 on my new propel, but need just 2cm more narrow. I may need a second mortgage to pay for the new set-up

  • @bertfivesix
    @bertfivesix 4 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    So they saved like, 2 watts per year of development?

    • @carlocossham1450
      @carlocossham1450 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      and why would they go back from 11 watts saved to 7 watts?

    • @andriegilsson6623
      @andriegilsson6623 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@carlocossham1450 Handling or feel was probably worse and not worth the extra watts.

    • @carlocossham1450
      @carlocossham1450 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@andriegilsson6623 yeah maybe they removed too much material from the frame

    • @floridrummer88
      @floridrummer88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@carlocossham1450 the canyon guys explain that in the gcn/canyon aeroad launch video

    • @jimmyhor78
      @jimmyhor78 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Most likely weight bragging rights. They would much rather have a bike that just matches the Cannondale in aero but beats it firmly in weight and comfort. Than one that beats the cannondale in aero but weigh the same.

  • @MS-bw7yt
    @MS-bw7yt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    How is the seatpost?

  • @endcensorship874
    @endcensorship874 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Did I just get an alert from GCN for a 15 minute commercial?

  • @jjonefiffier
    @jjonefiffier 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Excuse me, there's a video in your ads

  • @jonass1355
    @jonass1355 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    7,4kg total weight for the lightest CFR-model with top of the range components+wheels is surprisingly high. My 3 year old Aeroad CF SLX mechanical rim-brake frameset with only mid-range components+wheels has the same weight, everything included..

  • @jonathanodriscoll3200
    @jonathanodriscoll3200 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I've noticed that road have had some major developments regarding comfort. How comfortable did you find the ride compared to an endurance bike?

  • @Ninjump
    @Ninjump 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That handlebar width adjustment is incredible. I hope the durability proves out

  • @joshmagrum3552
    @joshmagrum3552 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love canyon and what they do, but I don't spend much time at 45kph/28mph. Whats the watt savings at 33kph/21mph?

  • @ChromeStrand
    @ChromeStrand 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That cockpit adjustability is just brilliant! as a person who is not completely satisfied with my carbon stem/bar, this looks a great selling point

  • @fritzwalter1112
    @fritzwalter1112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    i really like the straigt lines on that aeroad. nearly no curves!

  • @GGprods-o2x
    @GGprods-o2x 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wanna build this frame into a single speed conversion. Let's gooo

  • @clubdevoiture1618
    @clubdevoiture1618 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've ALWAYS been anti road bikes and ridden dh and jumps. BUT I've just watched a 17 minute area video. I didn't even know areo was a thing. I now really really want that bike 🥰😍

  • @jaibhardwaj4886
    @jaibhardwaj4886 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I want gcn to do "new aeroad vs old aeroad" video soon

  • @ivanlala8405
    @ivanlala8405 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As much as I love the look of that bike I see some things that could potentially ruin someone's day...
    The first would be the inability to turn the bars fully, thats gonna be an expensive fix once you crash as not only will you need to change the frame if it cracks but you will need to change the frame the mechanism and the bars.
    Second of all the adjustability of the bars while a clever idea could also potentially be disasterous, overtighten the bolt or undertighten and boom those bad boys are comming straight off.
    And that seat post...how does that affect seat adjustability? Does it need to be sawn off or do you need to get a different size one to fit your frame?
    For anyone reading, I love all bikes and I love new tech as much as anyone I just think that some of these features could cause a lot of damage and problems in the long run for the average consumer.

    • @tylersmith2085
      @tylersmith2085 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Funny you mention the potential issue with the extra bolts on the handlebars. I was talking with a Canyon service rep last week (for a completely different issue) and he said he was absolutely dreading all the inventible service calls he was going to get from torque-happy customers on that part.

    • @ivanlala8405
      @ivanlala8405 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tylersmith2085 Well I sure hope someone picks uo that phone....Because I called it!
      Jokes aside It just doesn't seem safe to have 2 bolts on each side holding up a heavy rider and/or witstanding the cranking in a full out sprint, thanks for some industry insight, cheers!

  • @nickarko7468
    @nickarko7468 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well, it would be very interesting head to head comparisons, challenge, time trial from GCN, with other mixed aero bikes, like the the new Tarmac or Emonda.

  • @zyghom
    @zyghom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    very sophisticated advertisement ;-)

    • @brianmessemer2973
      @brianmessemer2973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      You're right, these bike reviews on GCN pretty much always tend to be. To be fair though, in this case Si has owned an Aeroad for years and is a long-time Canyon customer. I think that lends some credibility and understanding to his enthusiasm.

    • @bluemystic7501
      @bluemystic7501 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Was it?? Because the thumbnail says AD and I saw 'includes a paid promotion' stamp at the beginning of the video.

  • @jeffreybarker357
    @jeffreybarker357 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The fact it took until 2020 to be able to adjust a part of a bike without literally cutting it seems ridiculous. Maybe it’s a radical idea for those already in the sport but to me, someone who just got into it in August, it seemed silly to need hardware to make something work.
    Kudos to Canyon for making yet another gorgeous bike. The handlebars being adjustable is another thing I’m surprised only just now became a “thing”. Kudos again for trying something new.
    That all being said, please take my money!

    • @simonr7097
      @simonr7097 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That stem adjustment height is not really a new idea. You could do the same with quill stems, which were the norm until threadless headsets took over (in the 90s I guess). Old is the new new!

  • @HkFinn83
    @HkFinn83 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I want to know how much of Canyons budget goes to advertising on all these cycling channels? When you try to talk to their customer service you get the impression you’re taking to a two man operation, but they have the marketing presence of a multinational.

  • @robbchastain3036
    @robbchastain3036 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Full chopper means you could flip up the bars and mount a banana seat and sissy bar. And I grin and say this is Si at the top of his game, nobody does this better. And those adjustable bars are brilliant, same with the stem. And the whole everything about this bike is pretty amazing.

  • @asbjrnravnrasmussen9649
    @asbjrnravnrasmussen9649 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The Aero bike is indeed dying out. However it's been seen before. My 2013 BH GH6 was an aerobike at a mere 6.78 kg with Zipp202 Tubular and Rotor InPower crank. However it lacked a lot of stiffness. So creaping from all three sides - aero, lightmess and stiffness - it's finally coming together for the perfect road bike - something I've waited on for years!

  • @ltrtg13
    @ltrtg13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was going to ask if you can fit mudguards and a rack. But I changed my mind.

  • @lukemorrish-thomas1961
    @lukemorrish-thomas1961 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    yes but how many watts does it save riding at speeds that most people actually ride at?

    • @oldguyonabike36
      @oldguyonabike36 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly...

    • @81caasi
      @81caasi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      1.3watts !

    • @HkFinn83
      @HkFinn83 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@81caasi and that’s wind tunnel data. It may be zero in reality

  • @GPTechno
    @GPTechno 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Liking the idea of different width tyres, front and back

  • @ملاذوساممحمدعبدالشهيد
    @ملاذوساممحمدعبدالشهيد 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is a great video GCN, very very well made
    The location, the colors, the bike,Simon Richardson and his smile :) with lovely jersey .... excellent one

  • @petefrancisful
    @petefrancisful 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’d take the steel frame used for the wind tunnel testing thanks. Loved my Aeroad for calm summer days.... but not much more

  • @gearoidoconnor6900
    @gearoidoconnor6900 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Any clip on tri bars for occasional triathlon usage? Either canyon or 3rd party it don’t matter. Thanks

    • @mcorbett01
      @mcorbett01 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      My question too.

    • @DoktorOste
      @DoktorOste 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Canyon sold a few especially for the older Aeroad designed tri bars directly, but it was already hard to get those after they were sold out

  • @kacy750
    @kacy750 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    love SI's 87 DEGREE calibrated eyes. now that is pro!

  • @Boaz_963
    @Boaz_963 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks GCN for the great and fun reviews! Even years later, still looking to buy this bike. Coming from Specialized (tarmac sl6) I think the steps up the ladder are too steep in the Specialized brand. The next step for me would then be around €6K. And this Canyon would be around €5K, with Electric shifting and a Power meter which I would really like to see in my next bike. I think now Canyon offers much better Price -> Product ratio than specialized.

  • @TomboLP
    @TomboLP 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They can't say so out loud as it's a paid advertisement, but you can see what they REALLY think of it in the "glamour shots." The valves aren't straight up and down, the cranks are a little off line...
    ...in other words, they think that it's a "nice," not a "super nice."

  • @sharkymccool
    @sharkymccool 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a question concerning the bars. Due to the possibility, to take them off for transportation, might it be possible to detach them and put on a integrated aerobar handle, if canyon would produce a fitting one? This would be awesome for triathletes, who want one bike for roadbiking and competitions. I know there used to be clip-ons for the old aeroad bars from canyon, but this would be a smoother solution in my opinion.

  • @mattrothrock506
    @mattrothrock506 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you bought the rim brake, Ultegra mechanical version of the previous gen Aerode it weighted in at 6.5kg. This was the lightest weight version of the bike and sold for $3,200. Now they force disc brakes on everyone and remark over how they cut the weight of the bike down to 6.7kg lol.

  • @metamurph
    @metamurph 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sweet edit. I love that they have the whole line and good packaging/price points.

  • @jascollinscork
    @jascollinscork 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fantastic looking bike!!! 😍hate the handlebars setup....... just choose what with we want from factory.....🤔😏

  • @johnbenedictsantos3425
    @johnbenedictsantos3425 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Hi ser Always waching keef safe ride safe solid fun from phillipines

    • @GabCariso
      @GabCariso 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eyyy!!💯

  • @SHEM_pl
    @SHEM_pl 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That B-roll footage from 00:17 is awesome !

  • @23bogarka
    @23bogarka 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Having a SOMEC full carbon, full Dura Ace 7900 7,8 kg, I'm happy with that..

  • @TheEightRain
    @TheEightRain 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love that you shoot your videos in 21:9, but could you kindly upload at that resolution as well? This way I wouldn't get black frames at all four sides of my screen...

  • @mithral999
    @mithral999 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got to give them credit for the height adjustment at the stem, time comes to sell it and you don't have to hope the guy who buys it is as flexible as you

  • @osh241
    @osh241 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Amazing 11watts saving.. great for my 15mph average.. 😂

  • @doindumbstuff4119
    @doindumbstuff4119 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The most obvious example being flung around is the Venge being outclassed by the Tarmac. The tarmac being far more versatile I do believe it will highly influence a shift in the market. However Aero bikes were never for everybody to begin with, and I doubt those who swore by Aero in the firstplace will be in any rush to give in. I believe we're coming into the all rounder range of bikes, comfortable geometry, wider tyre clearances, disk only framesets and various tiers of components to choose from, for lightweight, endurance or aero builds alike.

  • @GregKiger-on8jw
    @GregKiger-on8jw ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent review and approach- well done sir

  • @Avioto
    @Avioto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    I wish you would just review bikes, would be a lot more interesting than these ads. No offense.

    • @rboydphotography
      @rboydphotography 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      I wish you would just enjoy the video and not complain about a little ad that keeps the channel running in the comment section. No Offense.

    • @43bikeguy
      @43bikeguy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Richard Boyd Would be nice to review a greater proportion of affordable, below 1k bikes, perhaps their demographic are just richer. This channel doesn’t really sell the argument that cycling is for everyone, they say it and have a few vids but overwhelmingly it’s 3k+ bikes that get the most time.

    • @jreddin4488
      @jreddin4488 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      43bikeguy for the same reason top gear reviews the latest ferraris, lambo, porches etc week in week out, people aren’t gonna tune in to see them review the latest ford mondeo are they.

    • @43bikeguy
      @43bikeguy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      J Reddin is that a show this is modelled on cos that show isn’t really about cars is it?

    • @swallowtail7718
      @swallowtail7718 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jreddin4488 Poor analogy. Not everybody can afford Porsche, Lambos etc, but almost everyone can get into cycling. This channel does a poor job at demonstrating that.

  • @danielmoorhouse6506
    @danielmoorhouse6506 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shame its £650 more in the UK for the slx di2 version than it is in France. That's some hefty extra shipping costs.

  • @TheCyclisttc
    @TheCyclisttc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow. That bike looks stunning. 915 grams? That's crazy light for an aero bike. I am shocked. Comfort is not that great on aero bikes due to the stiffness of the frame but fours year in the making might have improved that as well!!!

  • @Mannerzs
    @Mannerzs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also thinking of mulleting my tyres now - that's now a thing!

  • @martinjohanson6426
    @martinjohanson6426 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would love if you guys did a review (first look) with the S-Works Tarmac SL7

  • @vikingcove
    @vikingcove 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow! Great bike; great presentation. This inspires me to overcome the obstacles to going for a bike ride. Thank you.

  • @loicepaillard3336
    @loicepaillard3336 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Looks good but the painting is strongly inspired by the SystemSix

  • @jimbrittain2617
    @jimbrittain2617 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Once again, an absolutely brilliant video. Great job Si!

  • @andreg1860
    @andreg1860 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, thoughtful engineering.. still going to keep my Felt FRD...

  • @ronbyers9912
    @ronbyers9912 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I guess with this bike and the Specialized Tarmac SL7 we are seeing a trend tp consolidation of the aero and light weight climbing bike into a single all around road bike. It could probably be expected. There never was a reason an aero bike had to be significantly heavier than the UCI limit. Not long from now the endurance bike will blend into the gravel road bike. Right now the only real difference between the Specialized Roubaix and the Specialized Diverge is tire clearance. It is always good to reduce niche lines if you are trying to make money manufacturing bicycles.

  • @michaelkennedy9064
    @michaelkennedy9064 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Based on the weight I would say aero bike. Canyon will also update the ultimate which is a statement from Canyon that its not a bike for the mountains. I think it's going to be what the Madone is to Trek. If it wasn't just an aero road bike and was truly the 'ultimate I think they wouldn't have updated the aeroad and just done the ultimate just like specialised chose to end the production of the venge.

  • @ianlinnell5189
    @ianlinnell5189 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I love Canyon and want this bike but: why is the UK nominal price more than the Euro (even the US is cheaper including sales tax); why is it sold with 2020 wheels which have already been replaced (if its not shipping until Jan anyway, so why not list with the new DT Swiss wheels?); the overall price of the Red AXS version is now nearly £2k more than the old model; and despite the hype, the overall weight of the AXS model at 7.37kg is basically the same. Plus ca change?

    • @leslie7922
      @leslie7922 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's why I buy giant only, their prices make more sense

    • @armadillito
      @armadillito 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      GBP isn't worth a lot against the euro at the moment, and VAT might be higher, at a guess? Or it could just be that the UK market will bear it?

    • @ianlinnell5189
      @ianlinnell5189 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Armadillito still worth more than parity and vat rates roughly the same. And, regardless, rates haven’t really changed when It was cheaper in U.K. More to do with cheeky prebrexit pricing for potential tariffs that dont even exist yet. Which may point to a price cut in Jan. best to hold fire on those orders!

    • @Chris-0703
      @Chris-0703 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Shouldn’t have voted Brexit

    • @MichalBrat
      @MichalBrat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      They had to produce separately for the other side of the road

  • @brianbrowne206
    @brianbrowne206 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonder if they will do an update mentioning anything about the seat post? They seem to be losing independence.

  • @twatts4436
    @twatts4436 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I reacon we'll have road bikes (now known as endurance) and race bikes which mix the lightweight and aero categories.
    How each company approaches it might vary a little, but they will be very similar as the current rules limit options.
    Unlike gravel bikes where there are no rules and so masses of variation.

  • @DarenC
    @DarenC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is this some sort of pre-production finish? The ridges between the logo and paintwork seem like the sort of bodge job I'd do if I tried to paint a bike myself. Maybe it's just missing a layer of lacquer, but it all looks a bit rough and ready

    • @joshwilliams6849
      @joshwilliams6849 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was thinking that really poor paint quality - I suspect it is a pre production though as on the website some colours have canyon logos on the handlebars and seat post whereas others don't so I think this silvery one has been doing the rounds as a prototype.

    • @DarenC
      @DarenC 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joshwilliams6849 Maybe, yeah. You'd think they'd want a top-notch looking bike in all the promo videos though, rather than giving people the impression they will spend £8k to get an amateur paint job

  • @charles1lovell
    @charles1lovell 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cheddar Gorge! My closest and favourite climb!

  • @IsmaelDiazIAGoupeFinancier
    @IsmaelDiazIAGoupeFinancier 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video guys! But what about a comparison between this bike and the new Pinarello F12 ...

  • @galenkehler
    @galenkehler 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After Samyn 2021, TH-cam figured I needed to rewatch this...

  • @clippydaclip
    @clippydaclip 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    10:40 So like it's a new and improved quil stem ? or am i missing something ?

    • @anshiletv9016
      @anshiletv9016 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey th-cam.com/video/7beck87cKLU/w-d-xo.html

    • @simonrichardson5259
      @simonrichardson5259 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes in that it can go up and down, but no, because everything else about it is completely different!

    • @kilburncounty
      @kilburncounty 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thought that exact same thing - showing our age? 😊

    • @clippydaclip
      @clippydaclip 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kilburncounty Haha , i'm only 23 but i've been riding heavy , 12Kg+ quil stem bike with 3X7 gears all my life 😂

  • @mrvwbug4423
    @mrvwbug4423 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So they took the Pinarello approach. Turn an aero bike into an all arounder vs the big 3 who all decided to make their lightweight bikes (TCR, Tarmac, Emonda) more aero for 2021. Though I would assume to get the full benefit of the areo you still have to slam the stem and give up the ~not destroy your lower back~ riding position. Though this could be an interesting 1 bike solution for amateur racers by just changing the wheels and cockpit to suit either climbing or aero.

  • @RomanoCortesJorge
    @RomanoCortesJorge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    where was this footage shot? great drone shots

  • @hayabusa27
    @hayabusa27 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Good luck getting a spare seatpost!

  • @therlchannel9018
    @therlchannel9018 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear GCN, i would love to see a video of comparison between Canyon Aeroad CFR vs Orbea Orca Aero since both bike are featured quite a lot in your channel. I am also indecisive of which to buy. Orbea orca aero offers top range frame from the brand where Aeroad CFR is a very neat bike at a high price. Both are nice bike.

  • @HShango
    @HShango 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Beautiful bike, but....bending my back like that will kill the experience.

    • @anshiletv9016
      @anshiletv9016 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Helo. th-cam.com/video/7beck87cKLU/w-d-xo.html

    • @tfsnousa
      @tfsnousa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You save 7 watts if you can a 27 mph cadence. Funny...

  • @KenSmith-bv4si
    @KenSmith-bv4si 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool video Si. I've ridden a friends System Six, deer gawd it's so fast!

  • @tc4724
    @tc4724 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where are you riding it looks amazing. Please reveal the location ?

  • @Not_Sure_
    @Not_Sure_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    @11:20 GENIUS.
    Canyon copied the 3 piece handlebar idea from the $99 walmart bike that used twist shifters. But they made it better(adjustable)

  • @southern_leyte8230
    @southern_leyte8230 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My take on areo bikes, if you are a professional rider competing at the highest level you must have one, for the normal guy in the street, it's more the statues of owning one, and will land up in the garage as storage. Go out by a road bike and have fun, then again I'm not 40 anymore and don't waste money on looking good, I already look good on my Raleigh RC 6000 road bike. 😁

  • @TheUnrevealer
    @TheUnrevealer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do not know how it is this time, but ultimate had seatpost with -35mm setback option whilst adroad did not. Means people like me could never properly fit old aeroad, as its seattube angle was too steep. This new aeroad has 73.5 degrees though still too steep for me...

  • @infinati
    @infinati 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    And then a few months after this video the seatpost fails and the handlebars snap.

  • @jarekcycling822
    @jarekcycling822 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Expertise in direct sale model, x years of development, you can change width of your handlebars but you are not able to order bike that cost 5000€ with stem length that you need :) That's good that at least bike size is still there :)

  • @marekstanjo7646
    @marekstanjo7646 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GCN videos remind me of when Top Gear was in its prime! So good!!