It's always like this, artifacts at the start of the main version is always generalised set and the one they release later is always hypertune for specific character(s).
sadly this is the truth, Monds, Liyue and Inazuma were too early and doesnt follow that rule, but after Sumeru we are going downhill its the EXACT same formula, they have no shame I wonder what Natlan 5.0 set will be like, for it to be universally good
@@San-cb9mjInazuma has The Ayato and Xiao set which are very niche, Itto’s and Kokomi’s sets are able to be used by more units but they’re still niche. They were already making specific sets for specific characters back in Inazuma after the X.0 update.
i dont think its a bad thing. for myself who not gonna pull Arlecchino, i dont need to farm these artifacts, so i can keep grinding for Golden Troupe bcz until now i only have 4 set for Furina and Chiori, its always bad piece for Yae and Fischl
real especially the burning one like there has to be a dendro/pyro unit made for this reaction (kind of like how chevy brought overload back into the meta) in 5.x lmfao they wouldnt release it for no reason
Real. The Burning one seems like they're trying to revive the Burning reaction, and considering that Natlan is the Pyro Nation, there's a 100% chance that Natlan will drop a "Burning Chevreuse". Something similar happened when Marechausse dropped, it seemed a bit specific and too general at the same time, and it later became the go-to for main DPSs in Furina teams. We shall wait, it could just be a useless set too.
Reminder to everyone: the Unfinished Reverie set description will include Natlan lore, as is customary for one of the current versions' final artifact sets to include lore for the next region (Ex. Bolide, Husk, Nymph's Dream) Husk of Opulent Dreams in particular gave lore regarding Scaramouche, who was the main boss in Sumeru
that's only the case if you are a halfwit that's easily baited. just like any other character, you dont need a 5* weapon, or farm for "theoretically BIS" but inefficient artifact domains. your "fully playable" definition is mihoyo's bait for the filthy rich, and/or the halfwits.
Her solid artifact choice being gladiator set is a huge plus since we got those from day one of genshin launch....for example my only over 45CV artifacts are two pieces gladiators xD but her signature weapon being the only spear which turns into real scythe in combat makes her much more expensive, the weapon is almost a must have...
@@raycigar6356 the new sets is her number 1 choice bruh, just same as back then when everyone saying heart of depth is neuvi’s best until everyone shut up and imprisoned themselves at marasussy hunter’s domain 😂
@@Axterix13I'm hoping he'll do to shielders what Furina did to healers and have anti-synergy with her (something like: you get buffed if you do not take damage) because it'd be too broken if you could use both in a single team
Inazuma was the Energy Recharge Meta with the Emblem of Severed Fate set, Sumeru had both the Dendro arrival and the Elemental Mastery focus with the two first set, and Fontaine the "HP Variation" one with Marichaussée. So we gotta expect a new "Meta" that would exploit a stat / a gimmick reaction, and the first set offered will lean fully towards that gimmick.
I’m super hyped that we finally got our Natlan artifact set…well at least inspired by Aztecs and Quetzals. I’m just so ready for Natlan and burning was the one dendro reaction that feels…lacking? Even though Dehya wasn’t our burning or burgeon unit Natlan may have it!
I feel like the formula is clear now. We've seen it since Inazuma. First patch artifact is always the generalised ones, while the ones that come later are tuned for specific characters, with maybe one or two more users.
I was still hoping that Unfinished Reverie would have buffed EM instead of attack. It would have opened entirely different playstyles for support Pyro and Dendro characters instead of just another attack % stat stick.
I think the new burning set will be insanely good on chars like Ganyu, with Burning melt combos... whether they'll be better than current bis... who knows
But who farms it when you can just use your Wanderer set, which you get everywhere and can exchange for trash in the strongbox. You can easily get the 5% DMG difference back with higher artifact quality while you do more important things with your resin
People who are already way past their first day of AR 60 ..already built multiple teams..and have capped Resins .. not recommended for players who still need to build a lot of teams... But what else would you do with ur resin ... It's okay to farm for new artifacts even if they're specific if ur older player
Well, the dilemma here is that, it will take a long long time for people to get a better burning set that is better than their current wanderers set. You might better off farming someting else like emblem or Golden troupe to increase your team dps further and be more efficient.
@@soujiokita6062 bruh, I play since version 1.1 and Pulling for Arlecchino, but I definitely won't farm it, there's nothing worse than getting good parts from a set that can only be used as an offpiece since it's so niche. 2x 18% Atk pieces They are a dime a dozen and I hardly use them anywhere anymore I prefer to continue farming in the Golden Troupe, Gildet Dreams or Emblem Domain, since every main stat can be used somewhere
Harmonic Whimsy could work on Kokomi with the fontaine craftable catalyst, Flowing Purity. Mono hydro (Kokomi, Furina, Yelan, Kazuha) is already a 60k+ dps team so I can see that being an improvement over the damage-capped healing sets. You could even replace 2 characters on the team to make it into a hyperbloom variant.
@@white19875 her normal attacks have atk scaling at least and since in that team she would be the on fielder, then the atk% sub stat can be used for her normal attacks.
Yeah, not good, especially given that Kokomi's E has a 20s cool down. Using this set with the Fontaine crafted weapons just doesn't strike me as being very viable. You need the right mix of power of healing, frequency of E use, and frequency of healing, all for a character that can use one of the Bond of Life weapons.
Ok, its official, Natlan character kits are going to be filled with bond of life stacking just base off of the first artifact set and the fact that a lot weapons already apply the effect
It looks like the unfinished reverie set still gives the full damage bonus as long as you're off field for > 3 seconds. The damage bonus only starts to fall off after 6 seconds of going on-field, so the burning condition might not be as big a deal for sub-DPS
It would’ve made sense to add her into the game earlier and have the Hearth children with an additional passive that would synergize with her. It would’ve increased all of their sales.
that burning set is also perfect for nuke childe intergrassional 250 EM from nahida, benney as usual, plus 50% extra dmg means quite more than full nymph
I hope it means that there is going to be support character that gives party wide or active character a bond of life so I can use this set universally and not just Arleccino and certain equipped weapon effects.
so funny to be that wriothesley main who will also get her arlecchino, this is specific domain yet i'll be stuck there, the burning set might be useful for my wriomelt supports
Thing about burning set on ganyu is that it will never be able to beat my wandering troupe set cause i have been farming it from bosses for last 2 years same with gladiators i have 40 cv on every gladiators artifact except circlet
Unfortunately for me I'm super resin efficient so I will not be farming these artifacts and in turn won't be pulling for Arlecchino unless more characters find these sets useful.
Is it really a good idea to create an artifact set, or resources in general that only help newer characters with this new Bond of Life mechanic? literally only farming for 1 character, for a mechanic that wont fully be introduced until 5.0 is crazy
I must be the only person who thinks about the Fontaine craftable sword when I see the 4p effect of Harmonic Whimsy. Base kit wise yes it's literally onyl for Arle, however if you crafted that sword then you can use it effectively on any character that can use their skill frequently. Personally I use it on Ayato and I'm really interested becuase it gives a ton of DMG% and that sword itself is a huge ATK stat stick.
Unfinished rêverie could be an option for Scara if he's played with Nahida and Bennett? Problem is, air fryer teams are pretty gimmicky, especially st ones
This “burning” set functions perfectly fine without the burning reaction it would probably fit in in a you use X character for 6 seconds then supports and continue with X character for 6 seconds again to gain value the rotation or just don’t count your rotation supports first and then you get the 50% dmg bonus to do big dmg without using burn
It isn't like Husk. The set cares about being in or out of combat, not being on or off field. So your character will have the full bonus for 6s after you get into a fight, and be at 0% 11s into it, until such time that you have spent enough time out of combat.
I might try the second one bc i have a burning team that i like using (tighnari, jean/kazuha, bennett, baizhu), but otherwise i'm just glad i don't need to farm for anyone lol
I think the burning set is a very good option for kazuha. He can consistently swirl pyro inside Bennett since pyro is the most prio aura for him to swirl. Kazuha wants em and burning reaction scales with em too.
The set bonus doesn’t do anything meaningful for Kazuha’s damage though, since ATK and DMG% don’t affect swirl, where most of his damage comes from. There are already other sets, like 4pc VV, that would just be better since it directly increases swirl damage.
Tbh i am interested in trying the burning set on Thoma out of pure curiosity since i will already be farming that domain for Arle i may as well try a fun team comp
Tldr Set 1: arlecchino exclusive set Set 2: burnmelt set but probably a set for a future unreleased character thats burn focused. Basically dont farm this domain unless your planning on pulling arlecchino and dont need to farm any other better domains(marechaussee hunter/golden dreams for example).
It seems nobody understand how powerfull is the burning set. It never mention that the character need to do the burning reaction, nor that it must or must'nt be off field. You start at 50% dmg bonus, then after 6s it decrease if there is no burning foes nearby. So the ONLY condition for permanent +50% dmg is that some foe is burning. Basically a better shimenawa, as long as you can burn at least once every 6 sec... Top tier artefact imo
Having to have pyro and dendro is a pretty big restriction. Essentially means melt and burgeon teams, and those teams have some other artifact sets they want in them already, as well as existing sets for which the new set is a relatively small increase. Added to that is Arl's set, which... isn't Emblem, and we'll just leave it at that. So between the set being niche, the domain having low resin efficiency, and just the pain for an older player of getting a new set to even match what you already have...
bro when 4.6 is out my resin will automatically go in that domain. I wont even see it. Just Ganyu artifacts over and over again. FINALLY after all this time a dedicated set for Ganyu in a farmable domain (Wanderer is just pure pain to farm from strongbox and shimenawa is suboptimal on her)
Im pretty sure they will never use bond of life again. Considering they gave arlechinno a passive that prevents her from interacting with the mechanic. They obviously couldnt come up with a way to use it properly.
Remember guys, with artifact sets if you've got a good set on your burnmelt carry, for this set which is only 5% better, expect it to take around 12 weeks of farming to equalize, and 15 or more weeks to actually improve. You can highroll, sure, but you can also farm for weeks or months (years for my emblem) without improving. source: th-cam.com/video/qUYkV5wdQ1w/w-d-xo.html
I play Wrio in a Burn/Melt team with Baizhu, Dehya, and Kazuha; and there's no way that a bit of extra burn damage will outweigh getting him to 99.4% CritRate with a couple of punches; or the extra everything from stacking HP% artifacts (and EM) on Baizhu or Dehya.
I dislike a LOT the idea of having a new set for Arlechinno. It's only reason for existing is for players to farm a new set. 1- Every character having its set, makes thinking what set to use useless. (Character building is now redundant) 2- Giving an exclusive set to every single character, makes older sets useless. 3- If this set didn't exist, there would be 4 other 4 Piece set's that would've been able to be her BiS sets. 4- They could've balanced her damage according to the already existing sets. I strongly believe the game would be better and less straining for everyone if this was how it went. It's only justifiable to add another set to the game if X character's best option is a 2/2 Piece set, just like Xiao was before Vermillion, or Childe before Nymph's Dream. Only in this scenario you could consider a character to be "unfinished" build wise.
idk, i like the idea of having multiple artifacts for a character, makes it easier in building. plus, it comes with a new artifact for burning, which is interesting 👍.
no one has bond of life and burning is ass so that means were getting new, unique chacters so its a good thing. just farm the new sets its not that hard...
@@qwq1027 I'd agree with you but the existence of this new set counters exactly your POV. This new set, regardless of the content or enemies you're facing, is always the best set. I think it's a bad game design choice due to solving the problem by continuously adding new sets that may overshadow previous ones, additionally it diminishes the value of previous investments on previous existing sets. Having a new set for every character removes the strategic planning of what artifacts to pick and makes the experience completely linear. All this leads to what you exactly dislike, less diversity of viable strategies, since the best set is always the one made for X character.
@@nexuhs. vermillion is xiao bis but i still use 2vv 2glad. Overall, substats still the most important, if u already have a perfect artifact set, imo no need farm new sets just for like 5% damage difference…
I think the concept of personal sets that only work on 1 or 2 characters is bad, especially in a game where the raw material resin is so limited. But no one is forced to farm the set because there are good alternatives (admittedly not perfect). Therefore you have to live with it, ignore the niche sets and only farm the universal sets. The DMG difference is easily made up for by the higher artifact quality that you get from farming for months, which only makes sense for sets that work on many characters
My Wrio has R5 Flowing Purity, so I already play with Bond of Life mechanics... I was wondering if either of these sets would be better for him that his Marechaussee Hunter. I understood the Reverie differently from you, to me it's more like: Xiangling should have the set, use Skill or Ult, then she leaves the field activating the Burning bonus after 3 seconds, and as long as someone is burning you get the 50% dmg dealt... a lot of stuff is not specified neither clarified on the descriptions. Now that the set is out, does anyone have any calculations and experience seeing how it actually works???
A bit of misinformation here just considering statistics. At 1:51 you use the term "Diminishing Returns". There are no diminishing returns on linearly scaling values like % increases to damage. What you are thinking of are "Decreasing Relative Changes," and "Diminished Relative Value," which is how the difference between 5% and 35% is more impactful than the difference between 75% and 105% when taking into account the baseline difference between the 5% and 75% from outside sources, especially when those sources are additive instead of multiplicative, and including the idea that the resources allocated towards this increase could be spent elsewhere for greater gains.
i just wish they did more sets like gilded dreams or golden troupe, which work really well on specific characters but are also viable in other cases. i'm farming nighttime whispers for navia rn and it's such a waste of resin, especially since i don't need the other set at all...
I'm only farming for her when I actually get my other sets done. I was checking on my artifacts, and I have literally 4 godroll pieces for her and a quite strong off piece. She got 60r/200d crit.
Hear me out, AYAKA we’ve already established that an R5 Fontaine craftable sword is almost as good as mistaitter and it gives her bond of life easily and in a freeze team she naturally will have a consistent healer with her like kokomi, in that case the weapon keep applying bond of life and the healer remove it and so on and so forth, wouldn’t that be more OP for Ayaka than blizzard set ? I’m just speaking what immediately popped into my head I’m not even an Ayaka haver
Thank you. It was very informative. Honestly, it's sad that developers add something so hero-specific. If you don't pull for Arlecchino, you pretty much have nothing to do with the first set. At lest Unfinished Reverie set is somewhat interesting.
I don't mind it being character specific, because we're typically mostly farming for one character anyway. Things like Golden Troupe, where Furina wants different main stats than Fischl/Yae, who wants different main stats than Chiori/Albedo are a rarity. I mind that 50% of the drops aren't the set we're looking for, and therefore, if that set isn't really desirable, resin-efficiency goes down the toilet. Hoyoverse needs to let us focus on just one of the two sets already.
What? But bond of life still deals directly with the hp gain theme, just look at the craftable weapons, they give buffs after the character heals the bond of life.
You can believe that if you want, but it would be pretty dumb to do so. Case in point, everyone was hyping up the hydro set in Dehya's domain because Fontaine was coming, the hydro area! And who from Fontaine wants it? Yeah, nobody. Bonds of Life is a Fontaine introduced mechanic. That we are getting a character that utilizes Bond of Life, and a dedicated artifact set for her, now is a very strong indicator that it will not be Natlan's thing. Natlan will get its own thing, and it'll be supported by one or both of its 5.0 artifact sets.
ughh i dont have a good glad set 😭 im probably gonna test my luck in this set, and if it sucks, ill just never go back. i mean hopefully ill be getting good glad pieces when i farm arlecchino mats
Can we talk about how lazy devs became with 2p effects? These two sets would make in total SEVEN artifacts sets with 18% attack bonus. They could make more elemtal bonuses, more energy recharge and more, so we could build more combinations of the same 2p bonuses instead of boring attack
Wrio, Baizhu, Thoma, Furina(or Xingqiu, or Kazuha). Giving Baizhu or Thoma the burning set could be a dmg increase. But I don’t know the numbers. Oh and before anyone says just play circle impact and play Bennett, no thank you, I like to have fun and the dps is already good enough to clear everything but I’d like my Baizhu and Thoma to do a bit more dmg in the team (that is to say I want to maximize this teams damage and not change the team). Since Baizhu has a burn dmg increase built into his passives I wonder if this set is good or do we reach diminishing returns on him. As for Thoma, would this be an upgrade over Emblem on this team? What do the numbers say?
“Keep in mind I am using a Time Machine”💀💀💀💀
LMAO fr
He went into the future and we still need to take everything with a grain of salt. What did he do in there?hmmmm..
@@jhonreysumagaysay2667Who knows? He probably caused a butterfly effect without knowing
When dreams aren't reliable enough you use time machine instead.
@@craiver00 I'll say I saw it in a dream next time
It's always like this, artifacts at the start of the main version is always generalised set and the one they release later is always hypertune for specific character(s).
Deepwood and guilded dreams at the start of Sumeru and then all of the shit after that, scara's set, dehya's set, nilou's set, etc
sadly this is the truth, Monds, Liyue and Inazuma were too early and doesnt follow that rule, but after Sumeru we are going downhill
its the EXACT same formula, they have no shame
I wonder what Natlan 5.0 set will be like, for it to be universally good
depends on Natlan's gimmick
@@San-cb9mjInazuma has The Ayato and Xiao set which are very niche, Itto’s and Kokomi’s sets are able to be used by more units but they’re still niche. They were already making specific sets for specific characters back in Inazuma after the X.0 update.
i dont think its a bad thing. for myself who not gonna pull Arlecchino, i dont need to farm these artifacts, so i can keep grinding for Golden Troupe bcz until now i only have 4 set for Furina and Chiori, its always bad piece for Yae and Fischl
i feel like these will get better with natlan characters because of how oddly specific they are
real especially the burning one
like there has to be a dendro/pyro unit made for this reaction (kind of like how chevy brought overload back into the meta) in 5.x lmfao they wouldnt release it for no reason
@@mysweetandkindchicken emilie is supposed to be the dendro focused on burn
Yeah, especially since the artifact set seems to be Natlan themed actually (Aztec inspired).
Real. The Burning one seems like they're trying to revive the Burning reaction, and considering that Natlan is the Pyro Nation, there's a 100% chance that Natlan will drop a "Burning Chevreuse". Something similar happened when Marechausse dropped, it seemed a bit specific and too general at the same time, and it later became the go-to for main DPSs in Furina teams. We shall wait, it could just be a useless set too.
I get a strong feeling that the new bond of life artifact set will be perfect for Sigewinne
Reminder to everyone: the Unfinished Reverie set description will include Natlan lore, as is customary for one of the current versions' final artifact sets to include lore for the next region (Ex. Bolide, Husk, Nymph's Dream)
Husk of Opulent Dreams in particular gave lore regarding Scaramouche, who was the main boss in Sumeru
Makes sense cause it looks tribal with the feathers.
The true main boss was finishing the Aranara quest line 😂
Cost of Arlechino is no jokes in terms of making her fully “playable” included but not limited to primogems + resin + emotional cost 😂
that's only the case if you are a halfwit that's easily baited.
just like any other character, you dont need a 5* weapon, or farm for "theoretically BIS" but inefficient artifact domains.
your "fully playable" definition is mihoyo's bait for the filthy rich, and/or the halfwits.
Her solid artifact choice being gladiator set is a huge plus since we got those from day one of genshin launch....for example my only over 45CV artifacts are two pieces gladiators xD but her signature weapon being the only spear which turns into real scythe in combat makes her much more expensive, the weapon is almost a must have...
There is a ton of scythe mods@@raycigar6356
@@raycigar6356 the new sets is her number 1 choice bruh, just same as back then when everyone saying heart of depth is neuvi’s best until everyone shut up and imprisoned themselves at marasussy hunter’s domain 😂
yea hoyo really wants their money back with how much it costed to make her animations
Unfinished reverie @_@ indeed is unfinished.
I'd imagine pyro archon may allow for consistant bond of life, like Furina allowed for hp fluctuation for everyone and unlocked maréchaussée for many
Won't happen. Natlan will get a new gimmick, which will be supported by one of the 5.0 artifact sets.
@@Axterix13 this. Just like the Hunter set got released in Fontaine the next Archon gimmick set will most likely be released in Natlan
tbh i feel like shed be a 5* bennett cause we really need another atk buffer
edit: maybe 5* bennett but new gimmick actually
@@Axterix13I'm hoping he'll do to shielders what Furina did to healers and have anti-synergy with her (something like: you get buffed if you do not take damage) because it'd be too broken if you could use both in a single team
Inazuma was the Energy Recharge Meta with the Emblem of Severed Fate set, Sumeru had both the Dendro arrival and the Elemental Mastery focus with the two first set, and Fontaine the "HP Variation" one with Marichaussée.
So we gotta expect a new "Meta" that would exploit a stat / a gimmick reaction, and the first set offered will lean fully towards that gimmick.
Ngl this ytber just became one of my favorite, bro just gives info straightforward and very understandable
Thank you! :)
Dude. If u have a time machine . Can you see if i win the 50/50? 💀
yes you win 👍
Im leaving this here to see if OP wins their 50/50, good luck!
@@sphere7468 Same.
@@MistsplitterReforged can you do mine too? I've won 50/50 for 7 times straight. Who will I get?
@@jirohhh Qiqi
I’m super hyped that we finally got our Natlan artifact set…well at least inspired by Aztecs and Quetzals. I’m just so ready for Natlan and burning was the one dendro reaction that feels…lacking? Even though Dehya wasn’t our burning or burgeon unit Natlan may have it!
I feel like the formula is clear now. We've seen it since Inazuma. First patch artifact is always the generalised ones, while the ones that come later are tuned for specific characters, with maybe one or two more users.
I was still hoping that Unfinished Reverie would have buffed EM instead of attack. It would have opened entirely different playstyles for support Pyro and Dendro characters instead of just another attack % stat stick.
I think that maybe sigewinne will also have a bond of life. just a speculation tho.
I'm really interested to see what her kit does, we already have healers she needs to have something special.
Yes! That's exactly what I thought when I saw this artifact!
i feel like maybe shell give bond of life in her skill then heal it up in ult, or opposite? so then shell enable the set for others??
@@MistsplitterReforgedI wish for a "Electro-Charged" Chevreuse and somewhere down the line a "Superconduct" (maybe Clorinde)
@@tartali63 Agreed.
I think the new burning set will be insanely good on chars like Ganyu, with Burning melt combos... whether they'll be better than current bis... who knows
But who farms it when you can just use your Wanderer set, which you get everywhere and can exchange for trash in the strongbox.
You can easily get the 5% DMG difference back with higher artifact quality while you do more important things with your resin
@@krummesblech People who want to make a burning comp? I’ll be farming it for my Ganyu, Dehya, Nahida and Bennett team
People who are already way past their first day of AR 60 ..already built multiple teams..and have capped Resins .. not recommended for players who still need to build a lot of teams... But what else would you do with ur resin ... It's okay to farm for new artifacts even if they're specific if ur older player
Well, the dilemma here is that, it will take a long long time for people to get a better burning set that is better than their current wanderers set.
You might better off farming someting else like emblem or Golden troupe to increase your team dps further and be more efficient.
@@soujiokita6062 bruh, I play since version 1.1 and Pulling for Arlecchino, but I definitely won't farm it, there's nothing worse than getting good parts from a set that can only be used as an offpiece since it's so niche.
2x 18% Atk pieces They are a dime a dozen and I hardly use them anywhere anymore
I prefer to continue farming in the Golden Troupe, Gildet Dreams or Emblem Domain, since every main stat can be used somewhere
Harmonic Whimsy could work on Kokomi with the fontaine craftable catalyst, Flowing Purity. Mono hydro (Kokomi, Furina, Yelan, Kazuha) is already a 60k+ dps team so I can see that being an improvement over the damage-capped healing sets. You could even replace 2 characters on the team to make it into a hyperbloom variant.
It just sucks that kokomi doesn't scale on attack. Maybe using it on lisa in a baizhu team?
Is Flowing Purity better than Prototype Amber on her on an on-gield mono-hydro team? I'd check KeqingMains, but they haven't updated her since 3.4...
@@white19875 her normal attacks have atk scaling at least and since in that team she would be the on fielder, then the atk% sub stat can be used for her normal attacks.
The set only lasts 6s so not good. I would at least consider it if the set is on ayaka.
Yeah, not good, especially given that Kokomi's E has a 20s cool down.
Using this set with the Fontaine crafted weapons just doesn't strike me as being very viable. You need the right mix of power of healing, frequency of E use, and frequency of healing, all for a character that can use one of the Bond of Life weapons.
Ok, its official, Natlan character kits are going to be filled with bond of life stacking just base off of the first artifact set and the fact that a lot weapons already apply the effect
An artifact set for Burning comps is amazing
Harmonic Whimsy making those craftable fontaine weapons more interesting to use.
Burning-melt team are so underrated, I'll try it next time .
It looks like the unfinished reverie set still gives the full damage bonus as long as you're off field for > 3 seconds. The damage bonus only starts to fall off after 6 seconds of going on-field, so the burning condition might not be as big a deal for sub-DPS
0:14 For a second I thought I missed a livestream...😭😭
If I live stream I'm 100% sure you'll be the first to show up
@@MistsplitterReforgedLMAO
It would’ve made sense to add her into the game earlier and have the Hearth children with an additional passive that would synergize with her. It would’ve increased all of their sales.
the volume is so low, this feels like an asmr video
That Bond of Life from Arlecchino is either a game changer or not
When the leakers said that Arle really needs her BiS weapon they weren't kidding
that burning set is also perfect for nuke childe intergrassional
250 EM from nahida, benney as usual, plus 50% extra dmg means quite more than full nymph
I hope it means that there is going to be support character that gives party wide or active character a bond of life so I can use this set universally and not just Arleccino and certain equipped weapon effects.
Sigewinne, maybe?
I'm glad that we will get a Burning character, burning reaction needs a Nilou for it to work
subscribed because your videos are to the point and very descriptive. yessir
so funny to be that wriothesley main who will also get her arlecchino, this is specific domain yet i'll be stuck there, the burning set might be useful for my wriomelt supports
Thing about burning set on ganyu is that it will never be able to beat my wandering troupe set cause i have been farming it from bosses for last 2 years same with gladiators i have 40 cv on every gladiators artifact except circlet
you ever wanna farm artifact sets just for their look and colour schemes? because these sets are making me itch
A underrated and forgotten reaction is burgeon and it will be even more op after this update due to the artifacts
I really like your video's bcz you actually add visual-aids where as other leakers just talk and talk but make it hard to understand. TY!
I want to see someone who treats bond of life as a shield, taking damage would drain it in this case or maybe decreases incoming damage.
Unfortunately for me I'm super resin efficient so I will not be farming these artifacts and in turn won't be pulling for Arlecchino unless more characters find these sets useful.
didnt he say its only 5% better than Gladiators Finale ?
but you can run other sets on arlecchino. so why skip her? i mean unless u dont like her obviously lol
Wow, I was wondering why I haven’t heard much about the new sets…….. these are so underwhelming that it isn’t even funny anymore.
Is it really a good idea to create an artifact set, or resources in general that only help newer characters with this new Bond of Life mechanic? literally only farming for 1 character, for a mechanic that wont fully be introduced until 5.0 is crazy
I must be the only person who thinks about the Fontaine craftable sword when I see the 4p effect of Harmonic Whimsy. Base kit wise yes it's literally onyl for Arle, however if you crafted that sword then you can use it effectively on any character that can use their skill frequently. Personally I use it on Ayato and I'm really interested becuase it gives a ton of DMG% and that sword itself is a huge ATK stat stick.
Unfinished rêverie could be an option for Scara if he's played with Nahida and Bennett? Problem is, air fryer teams are pretty gimmicky, especially st ones
I'm pulling Arlecchino, but I'm not farming the new artifacts. I can't do resin inefficient domains. She's getting a Strongboxed Gladiator set.
Same cuz I know I just won't use either of those sets for anyone else lol. At least Glad can be found anywhere
I have a good hunter set from farming
Thats what im slapping on her
She manipulates her hp so it should work
@@quietguyjosh4643It wont.
@@quietguyjosh4643 She manipulates Bond of Life, not HP
@t4m471 doesn't that mean her hp will be drained and she will heal with some mechanics of her kit
"Keep in mind i used a time machine"
Hoyoverse:..........ok i believe you
Do you think unfinished reverie could work on a burgeon team too?
This “burning” set functions perfectly fine without the burning reaction it would probably fit in in a you use X character for 6 seconds then supports and continue with X character for 6 seconds again to gain value the rotation or just don’t count your rotation supports first and then you get the 50% dmg bonus to do big dmg without using burn
It isn't like Husk. The set cares about being in or out of combat, not being on or off field. So your character will have the full bonus for 6s after you get into a fight, and be at 0% 11s into it, until such time that you have spent enough time out of combat.
@@Axterix13oh i thought it was if the character leaves combat. Though when the actual set releases we will see
I might try the second one bc i have a burning team that i like using (tighnari, jean/kazuha, bennett, baizhu), but otherwise i'm just glad i don't need to farm for anyone lol
I think the burning set is a very good option for kazuha. He can consistently swirl pyro inside Bennett since pyro is the most prio aura for him to swirl. Kazuha wants em and burning reaction scales with em too.
The set bonus doesn’t do anything meaningful for Kazuha’s damage though, since ATK and DMG% don’t affect swirl, where most of his damage comes from.
There are already other sets, like 4pc VV, that would just be better since it directly increases swirl damage.
VV is way too OP, and i think it will be the set of choice for anemo support untill the end of times 😂
Tbh i am interested in trying the burning set on Thoma out of pure curiosity since i will already be farming that domain for Arle i may as well try a fun team comp
Tldr
Set 1: arlecchino exclusive set
Set 2: burnmelt set but probably a set for a future unreleased character thats burn focused.
Basically dont farm this domain unless your planning on pulling arlecchino and dont need to farm any other better domains(marechaussee hunter/golden dreams for example).
100%
I still have a perfectly good Nymphs dream set, but not a single character to use it
It the same double 18% atk bonus with extremely niche 4-piece just like the vemillion
I can see Unfinished Reverie working in a Burning Overload team. Please note that I'm talking about fighting bosses when I say this.
its preety clear that the burning artifact is made for a upcoming character!!!!!!
Very clear and concise video 👋 subbed bro
what if furina's healing will be of use if new characters are release with bond of life mechanics?
Then you can farm it then, hopefully by means of the strongbox, but probably won't bother, because other stuff will have more value for you to farm.
Mr. Time Machine, would you know around when we'll be getting Sigewinne? :)
next patch trust
It seems nobody understand how powerfull is the burning set. It never mention that the character need to do the burning reaction, nor that it must or must'nt be off field. You start at 50% dmg bonus, then after 6s it decrease if there is no burning foes nearby. So the ONLY condition for permanent +50% dmg is that some foe is burning. Basically a better shimenawa, as long as you can burn at least once every 6 sec... Top tier artefact imo
Having to have pyro and dendro is a pretty big restriction. Essentially means melt and burgeon teams, and those teams have some other artifact sets they want in them already, as well as existing sets for which the new set is a relatively small increase. Added to that is Arl's set, which... isn't Emblem, and we'll just leave it at that.
So between the set being niche, the domain having low resin efficiency, and just the pain for an older player of getting a new set to even match what you already have...
New Ganyu artifact set 👌. That domain is gonna be my new home 😂
bro when 4.6 is out my resin will automatically go in that domain. I wont even see it. Just Ganyu artifacts over and over again. FINALLY after all this time a dedicated set for Ganyu in a farmable domain (Wanderer is just pure pain to farm from strongbox and shimenawa is suboptimal on her)
Im pretty sure they will never use bond of life again. Considering they gave arlechinno a passive that prevents her from interacting with the mechanic. They obviously couldnt come up with a way to use it properly.
1:09 its just a 7% damage increase, the 7% in question.
Remember guys, with artifact sets if you've got a good set on your burnmelt carry, for this set which is only 5% better, expect it to take around 12 weeks of farming to equalize, and 15 or more weeks to actually improve. You can highroll, sure, but you can also farm for weeks or months (years for my emblem) without improving.
source: th-cam.com/video/qUYkV5wdQ1w/w-d-xo.html
I play Wrio in a Burn/Melt team with Baizhu, Dehya, and Kazuha; and there's no way that a bit of extra burn damage will outweigh getting him to 99.4% CritRate with a couple of punches; or the extra everything from stacking HP% artifacts (and EM) on Baizhu or Dehya.
I don't wanna farm them I do 2+2 set's for arlechino
They just had to make a burgeon set to make sure farming for arlecchino is painful
Really hope Lyney would get a rerun so I can get my hands on a Lyney guide😫🙏
I dislike a LOT the idea of having a new set for Arlechinno. It's only reason for existing is for players to farm a new set.
1- Every character having its set, makes thinking what set to use useless. (Character building is now redundant)
2- Giving an exclusive set to every single character, makes older sets useless.
3- If this set didn't exist, there would be 4 other 4 Piece set's that would've been able to be her BiS sets.
4- They could've balanced her damage according to the already existing sets.
I strongly believe the game would be better and less straining for everyone if this was how it went. It's only justifiable to add another set to the game if X character's best option is a 2/2 Piece set, just like Xiao was before Vermillion, or Childe before Nymph's Dream. Only in this scenario you could consider a character to be "unfinished" build wise.
idk, i like the idea of having multiple artifacts for a character, makes it easier in building. plus, it comes with a new artifact for burning, which is interesting 👍.
no one has bond of life and burning is ass so that means were getting new, unique chacters so its a good thing. just farm the new sets its not that hard...
@@qwq1027 I'd agree with you but the existence of this new set counters exactly your POV.
This new set, regardless of the content or enemies you're facing, is always the best set.
I think it's a bad game design choice due to solving the problem by continuously adding new sets that may overshadow previous ones, additionally it diminishes the value of previous investments on previous existing sets.
Having a new set for every character removes the strategic planning of what artifacts to pick and makes the experience completely linear.
All this leads to what you exactly dislike, less diversity of viable strategies, since the best set is always the one made for X character.
@@nexuhs. vermillion is xiao bis but i still use 2vv 2glad. Overall, substats still the most important, if u already have a perfect artifact set, imo no need farm new sets just for like 5% damage difference…
I think the concept of personal sets that only work on 1 or 2 characters is bad, especially in a game where the raw material resin is so limited.
But no one is forced to farm the set because there are good alternatives (admittedly not perfect).
Therefore you have to live with it, ignore the niche sets and only farm the universal sets.
The DMG difference is easily made up for by the higher artifact quality that you get from farming for months, which only makes sense for sets that work on many characters
My Wrio has R5 Flowing Purity, so I already play with Bond of Life mechanics... I was wondering if either of these sets would be better for him that his Marechaussee Hunter. I understood the Reverie differently from you, to me it's more like: Xiangling should have the set, use Skill or Ult, then she leaves the field activating the Burning bonus after 3 seconds, and as long as someone is burning you get the 50% dmg dealt... a lot of stuff is not specified neither clarified on the descriptions. Now that the set is out, does anyone have any calculations and experience seeing how it actually works???
great video! super easy to understand. your voice is very nice to listen to as well 😊
Man first crystallize, then overload, and now burning, whats next, electro charged
About to farm this just to use burning team on Kazuha with Nahida Bennett and Xingxiu. Burgeon and burn will go brrrr
I'm pretty sure Arlecchino will want atk% goblet since she gets so much dmg% from her kit and that artifact.
I wonder if burning nahida with massive em will do? Burning team never exist in the first place. Same with shatter team as dps.
I'm not very well versed in the beta leaks, how come Gilded is good on Arle? I thought she just scaled off Atk.
So we getting a burn oriented character in 4.7 got it
A bit of misinformation here just considering statistics. At 1:51 you use the term "Diminishing Returns". There are no diminishing returns on linearly scaling values like % increases to damage. What you are thinking of are "Decreasing Relative Changes," and "Diminished Relative Value," which is how the difference between 5% and 35% is more impactful than the difference between 75% and 105% when taking into account the baseline difference between the 5% and 75% from outside sources, especially when those sources are additive instead of multiplicative, and including the idea that the resources allocated towards this increase could be spent elsewhere for greater gains.
But there is also the fontaine weapons? Does it work with that as well?
Haven't watched the full video btw
i just wish they did more sets like gilded dreams or golden troupe, which work really well on specific characters but are also viable in other cases. i'm farming nighttime whispers for navia rn and it's such a waste of resin, especially since i don't need the other set at all...
It's always the x.0 patch with the universal sets.
I guess overload also nice for this like
Use burning then use elctro
I'm only farming for her when I actually get my other sets done. I was checking on my artifacts, and I have literally 4 godroll pieces for her and a quite strong off piece. She got 60r/200d crit.
Hear me out, AYAKA
we’ve already established that an R5 Fontaine craftable sword is almost as good as mistaitter and it gives her bond of life easily and in a freeze team she naturally will have a consistent healer with her like kokomi, in that case the weapon keep applying bond of life and the healer remove it and so on and so forth, wouldn’t that be more OP for Ayaka than blizzard set ? I’m just speaking what immediately popped into my head I’m not even an Ayaka haver
I feel ATK bonus for both 2pc is lazy when one can be burst damage and other is ER.
Thank you. It was very informative.
Honestly, it's sad that developers add something so hero-specific. If you don't pull for Arlecchino, you pretty much have nothing to do with the first set. At lest Unfinished Reverie set is somewhat interesting.
yup, I'm farming the domain for alrecchino so hopefully I get good Unfinished Reverie pieces for burnmelt.
I don't mind it being character specific, because we're typically mostly farming for one character anyway. Things like Golden Troupe, where Furina wants different main stats than Fischl/Yae, who wants different main stats than Chiori/Albedo are a rarity.
I mind that 50% of the drops aren't the set we're looking for, and therefore, if that set isn't really desirable, resin-efficiency goes down the toilet. Hoyoverse needs to let us focus on just one of the two sets already.
is it just me or does unfinished reveries open up a c6 bennett with kaveh?
I strongly believe as main theme of fontaine was hp gain & drain,natlan would be bond of life
What? But bond of life still deals directly with the hp gain theme, just look at the craftable weapons, they give buffs after the character heals the bond of life.
You can believe that if you want, but it would be pretty dumb to do so. Case in point, everyone was hyping up the hydro set in Dehya's domain because Fontaine was coming, the hydro area! And who from Fontaine wants it? Yeah, nobody.
Bonds of Life is a Fontaine introduced mechanic. That we are getting a character that utilizes Bond of Life, and a dedicated artifact set for her, now is a very strong indicator that it will not be Natlan's thing. Natlan will get its own thing, and it'll be supported by one or both of its 5.0 artifact sets.
ugh i wish arlecchino and her artifact set matched color schemes
Qiqi who can apply BoL on herself and heal: thats my time to shine
30s cool down.
Thx for clarification.
What I learned from this:
Don’t farm it :)
A great Gladiator set is waiting for Arlecchino
basically!
ughh i dont have a good glad set 😭 im probably gonna test my luck in this set, and if it sucks, ill just never go back. i mean hopefully ill be getting good glad pieces when i farm arlecchino mats
Hu tao+Nahida/Kirara+ Xiangling+ Kazuha Thoma/Zhongli burning team with this set
As an AR60 player, there is absolutely no reason for me to farm these sets
But again my resin is always 160/160 so it wouldn't hurt to try
Can someone calculate how much the new whimsy set stacks up against something like marichusee hunter with furina?
vermilion hereafter flashbacks 😭
Fuck that set. Ive wasted my life in that domain
Fontaine sword do bond of life so it’s finna actually be more useful now
Can we talk about how lazy devs became with 2p effects? These two sets would make in total SEVEN artifacts sets with 18% attack bonus.
They could make more elemtal bonuses, more energy recharge and more, so we could build more combinations of the same 2p bonuses instead of boring attack
"These teams are fun to play", proceeds to play Ganyu. bro.
Wait I thought that Charlotte also gives bond of life?
I wonder who’s going to be the next Support that grants BoL…
I’m just exicted to play Collei and Amber together even though it probably won’t be that powerfull
Howd it go
Wrio, Baizhu, Thoma, Furina(or Xingqiu, or Kazuha). Giving Baizhu or Thoma the burning set could be a dmg increase. But I don’t know the numbers. Oh and before anyone says just play circle impact and play Bennett, no thank you, I like to have fun and the dps is already good enough to clear everything but I’d like my Baizhu and Thoma to do a bit more dmg in the team (that is to say I want to maximize this teams damage and not change the team). Since Baizhu has a burn dmg increase built into his passives I wonder if this set is good or do we reach diminishing returns on him. As for Thoma, would this be an upgrade over Emblem on this team? What do the numbers say?
for 6s? yeah im good ill stick to glad
(kinda funny that both sets are for characters who's 2nd best in slot is Gladiators and Wanderers respectively)
Can anyone tell me why i cant find it on mystic offering??
thank you mister splitter reforged