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  • Cycling is an easy way to wind up spending a lot of money! As soon as you start dropping cash on bike upgrades, you've opened a never ending can of worms. But, some upgrades are better value than others - you don't have to spend loads of money to improve the performance of your road bike. In this video, Ollie tells you the worst value bike upgrades!
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  • @gcntech
    @gcntech  3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    What did we miss? What do you think is the worst value bike upgrade? Let us know in the comments below!

    • @ericpmoss
      @ericpmoss 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I LOVE tubulars. Are they faster in a lab setting? No. But they are sooooo much more comfortable for a given width. I have had far fewer flats on tubulars, and have successfully used sealant in them if I do flat. Lately, the Donnelly cross tubulars have become my go-to durable tire, because they are constructed like tubeless, as are at least one of the Continentals, and are perfectly true. Perfectly. Also, they hold air beautifully, work perfectly with sealant, and while not as glorious as FMBs to ride, are super reliable.

    • @TheraPi
      @TheraPi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    • @twatts4436
      @twatts4436 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Carbon bikes?
      Not significantly faster or better than aluminium but dramatically more expensive and almost impossible to recycle.

    • @darrenpiotrow1381
      @darrenpiotrow1381 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@twatts4436 I have to strongly disagree. I'm not saying alloy bikes are bad by any means. They are great value and high-end alloy bikes are very nice. But there's no comparison to a quality carbon frame. Once you ride a carbon bike there's simply no going back to aluminum. The difference is highly noticeable and makes a big difference.

    • @SuperBodul
      @SuperBodul 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Carbon handlebars (not the integraded ones)

  • @matteo.ceriotti
    @matteo.ceriotti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +233

    Number 1: Ceramicspeed clearly not sponsoring GCN anymore 😄

    • @Catchcamatian
      @Catchcamatian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      replaced by muc-off apperantly

    • @matteo.ceriotti
      @matteo.ceriotti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Catchcamatian 😄😄😄

    • @KandiKlover
      @KandiKlover 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Catchcamatian interesting. I saw Blake on GMBN briefly mention and show a can of muc off for a few seconds on the gear list video for his cider farm bike packing.

    • @fwmtb
      @fwmtb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KandiKlover GMBN is sponsored by Muc-off

  • @jonathanjc1131
    @jonathanjc1131 3 ปีที่แล้ว +354

    I see Ollie you use those ceramic lube on your hair too

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  3 ปีที่แล้ว +166

      Hahahaha. Ironically, his hair actually costs him 7-10 watts.

    • @Heleninhalinda176
      @Heleninhalinda176 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      You should do a video about hair aerodynamics!! Should we all be bald to save some watts, or is a teardrop hairstyle better?

    • @Amaterasu-wh6xj
      @Amaterasu-wh6xj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      @@Heleninhalinda176 hairodynamics

    • @KandiKlover
      @KandiKlover 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Heleninhalinda176 Bald with oiled up head lmao

    • @Heleninhalinda176
      @Heleninhalinda176 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I can only see advantages.
      Free aero gains
      Free Testosterone boost
      Free wheight saving
      I'm shaving right now!!!

  • @Livlifetaistdeth
    @Livlifetaistdeth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    The most cost effective addition to your bike is to learn how to fix it yourself.

    • @Livlifetaistdeth
      @Livlifetaistdeth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dsdf_fdp1858 haha, spoken like someone who understands the struggle.

    • @kylemeister4893
      @kylemeister4893 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah but now I just want more tools....

    • @Livlifetaistdeth
      @Livlifetaistdeth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@kylemeister4893 And that is called being a man, nothing to be ashamed of.

    • @omniyambot9876
      @omniyambot9876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dsdf_fdp1858 nahh

  • @hekope6912
    @hekope6912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +171

    I call them "placebo upgrades". They don't give me more watts but they do make me feel and look faster. If you look fast you are fast.

    • @merckxy54
      @merckxy54 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      thats what its all about, looking faster on the bike than the next person!!!!😂

    • @joelyons886
      @joelyons886 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      but looking good n feelin greeeeeeee8! is just as important and I refuse to cancel that order with Lightweight and Ceramicspeed even if it does mean a 2nd mortgage! :p

    • @Bendersnatchling
      @Bendersnatchling 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've put some Swiss Side Classic 800s on my Cervelo R5 which is a climbing bike. Now it's a Frankenbike but I do feel really fast on the flats :))

    • @joelyons886
      @joelyons886 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Bendersnatchling lookin good n feelin great hasn’t got any price Enjoy them pb’s

    • @brixomatic
      @brixomatic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well, if you gone to a point where you have the feeling that you have maxed out your bike, that gets you a sense of achievement.
      And If you like to show off some bling, that certainly makes you want to ride, which is essentially good.
      Having said that, I think the most cost ineffective upgrade that I've done on my bike are titanium screws. Apart from the big brake bolts they save you next to nothing and cost a premium.
      Funny enough another not so great "upgrade" was to change my Ultegra 6600 to a Dura Ace 7900 (with used levers). It actually shifts worse, so I'm not overly happy with it. Lever actuation is heavier and happens later on the Dura Ace, but it's lighter, looks so much better and cleaner and it's a lot of work to mount back, so I think I will just get used to it.

  • @stuartdryer1352
    @stuartdryer1352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I agree with all of this. I upgraded my mid range Tarmac to Ultegra Di2. About a year ago in Italy I was able to rent a Pinarello F10 with DuraAce mechanical. It was an amazing bike and would cost more than double my Tarmac (even with the Di2 upgrade), although the geometry was quite similar. The F10 was lighter and it was Italy. BUT, when I got back home I was glad to be back on my Tarmac. The shifting performance of Di2 is just superior. Yesterday I waxed my chain, it took 30 min, of which about 5 min were spent on my bike, and 25 min in my kitchen watching TH-cam and drinking coffee.

    • @Timtimzi
      @Timtimzi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Never going back to mechanical if I can help it. Electronic shifting is the way to go. Hassle free shifts.

    • @siulilomay628
      @siulilomay628 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Timtimzi and IMO is less fiddling and maintenance with Electronic shifting

    • @rollinrat4850
      @rollinrat4850 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nothing is more reliable than a fixed gear or even a singlespeed. My fixed gear 'cross bike never breaks and it's always ready and willing to take some more abuse and a mud bath. And a good hosing off. My 'Crossafix' was almost free. Its more fun than should be legal.

    • @joerenner8334
      @joerenner8334 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@rollinrat4850My 16 speed is easily as trou le free as any single speed. And I can outperform it on the flats and uphill to boot. Mechanical shifting never breaks.

  • @bleckandbleck
    @bleckandbleck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    To add to the list of carbon crazy parts, I have a carbon pocket sized pump. I won it in a preme sprint. You know, that part of the race where the sponsor shop unloads something of dubious value priced at $50. As an aside, the best part of winning that mid race sprint is that it served as a test to know where to attack for the win in the only road race I ever won, so for that the carbon pump has great sentimental value.

  • @markj.a351
    @markj.a351 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    That lube seems to work great in hair also.

  • @chanito_nyc
    @chanito_nyc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    “Please don’t”
    Ollie’s hair before wherever happened today

    • @ADCFproductions
      @ADCFproductions 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      he dropped a bucket of olive oil on his head :C

  • @noahthomas77
    @noahthomas77 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ha! I had just purchased a custom mtb, and thought I’d put Ti water bottle bolts on only to have one break off in the frame. It’s still there 25 years later as a reminder!!

  • @the_mad_ratter
    @the_mad_ratter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ceramic bearings ...100% recommend. I lost the use of half of my left leg in a bike accident (plus some other stuff, broken back t12-l5). Since changing over to ceramic bearings (which were donated to me) I really can feel the difference in both peak power and speed, and I can ride farther. Don't see how that can be placebo lol.
    Added side effect, when the bike gets stored for a while whilst I use my other bikes, I don't have to re-pack or worry about corrosion.

  • @davidtydeman1434
    @davidtydeman1434 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have recently moved to a waxed chain after following the DIY instructions on TH-cam from ozcycle. I am very happy - its quiet and clean and is not expensive.

  • @lucvdm5725
    @lucvdm5725 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I wanted to upgrade my Colnago with ceramic bearings and my bikeshop advised me not to do for the same reason Ollie gave. Wise advise !

  • @Kefford666
    @Kefford666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    In terms of bearings I’d be happy just with very well made steel bearings. When I used to skate, a set of bones redz abec 5’s were a huge upgrade over standard bearings, without having to fork out for Bones Swiss Ceramics

  • @fatdadracing
    @fatdadracing 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my waxed chain! I have been using Molten Speed Wax for about a year. Sheds water and dirt so it's super clean. I get about 200 miles out of a fresh wax job and use 2 chains for batch processing. Way less time than cleaning and lubing every other ride and WAY better performance in terms of less wear and watts.

  • @wtfiswiththosehandles
    @wtfiswiththosehandles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Waxing chain yourself is much cheaper than using off the shelf lubes.
    To be honest I don't care about minute watt savings, but the ever-clean drivetrain is well worth the hassle (hassle = spending 30 minutes cooking 3 chains once per month)

    • @Murgoh
      @Murgoh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yup. I wax all of my chains, including those for the fat bike. I use paraffin wax and PTFE-powder mix. I usually wait untilI have 3 or 4 chains to wax as the crock pot takes quite a while to heat. But I really love the clean drive trains.

    • @stuartdryer1352
      @stuartdryer1352 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Murgoh I use a rice cooker instead. Very fast to heat up.

    • @pha4079
      @pha4079 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I also haven't had any issues with wax not lasting in the wet, in fact I would say it is less prone to de-lubing in wet conditions.

    • @merckxy54
      @merckxy54 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Murgoh Okay so its best to buy at least three chains at once for the same bike then just rotate their use ?? Every month or every 1000k???? Whats best?

    • @paulschmidt2251
      @paulschmidt2251 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I concur with you. It is easy to do. I do not agree with the statement that you lose the wax in the rain. You don’t, it is internal to the rollers on the chain. Wax does not pick up sand and grit. Every other lube is a magnet for sand and grit.

  • @HambledonRehab
    @HambledonRehab 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love my carbon chainrings, they’re still going strong, the Di2 rear mech fitted at the same time, toast, simply died, out of warranty and an expensive replacement. You pay your money and make your choices.

  • @cyclemadkiwi
    @cyclemadkiwi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've done most of them, I did a full build from ground up inc. custom painting myself. Full Ultegra, Ti Bolts throughout, carbon bottle cages, computer mount, integral stem and bars, waxed chain (Ozcycle for the how to there!) ceramic bottom bracket. I think it goes pretty well and for the most part if it looks good, you feel good. Full aero frame and 50mm carbon clincher rim wheels with carbon hubs and she is a tick over 7.4kg. waxed chain lasts about 250km, but also have made my own wax lube in a bottle with IPA and wax from the pot.....which also has PTFE powder in for a chain wax better than Molten speedwax!
    Bottom line though, if you love the look....you're sure to go faster! :-)

  • @billmiller4983
    @billmiller4983 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Second tier group set -- Ultegra has always ben awesome. Now it is the same as a couple year old Dura-ace

  • @westwingaero
    @westwingaero 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    nice to see a GCN video that is supported by actual engineering knowledge as opposed to marketing rhetoric, first of many I hope

  • @jaydeister9305
    @jaydeister9305 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are definitely right on all counts. Some stuff is just for the pros, since seconds count on major tours, and sponsors can pay for it. I'm just too poor even to consider some of these options. I have a rich friend, he has pinarellas with carbon everything (except the crank chain rings), but he can afford, so no big deal.
    Shimano 105 is more than adequate for a current groupo, and i do have some 105 parts on some older bikes. My next bike will be a 105 bike, carbon or titanium, i'm not sure. Old men need light bikes in winter, it's too tough with the old steel bikes fighting the wet roads, cold, and wind. My next 105 bike will cost as much as my dura ace from 2005.
    I have a Dura Ace bike (Felt F25, bought in, circa 2005), that i bought after coming back from deployment to iraq. Shifting and braking is still pretty amazing even now. The Felt F1C and F1B (carbon) were top end road bikes from felt that year, but they were exotic carbon, and 5 grand (USD), so i passed.

  • @boowiebear
    @boowiebear 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love having a waxed chain. I went 100 miles on my mountain bike between waxe and it was still clean and slippery. Technically can go 200-300 if you want. I use MSPEEDWAX.

  • @retroonhisbikes
    @retroonhisbikes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Nothing like a well groomed presenter, never mind ceramic bearings got my attention.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      You're right - Ollie is nothing like a well groomed presenter.

  • @jshepard5840
    @jshepard5840 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love this video. So many people waste tons of cash on upgrades, and for what? I'll tell you what, it's so they can show them off to their cycling buddies. It has to be the only reason, because as Ollie points out and as research will support, they don't make you any faster. The one big one he left out is high priced carbon wheels. I did upgrade my aluminum wheels to a set of Super Team Chinese carbon wheels for the whopping price of $225, and they are fantastic. Several thousand miles on them now and they're still true and in perfect condition. And at that price, I can buy a 38mm set, a 50mm set, an 80mm set, and even a full disc set and still only spend a third of what Zipp wants for one set of wheels.

  • @mikeburton8426
    @mikeburton8426 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I ordered a set of custom bar plugs a few years ago. They were far too heavy so I replaced them with the plastic ones that came with the bar tape. I think it was light weight “carbon pattern” bar tape

  • @joshhiggins4723
    @joshhiggins4723 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Carbon fiber riding shorts, that should make all the difference

    • @erikgrozev1866
      @erikgrozev1866 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Genius idea🤣🤣

    • @berniesutton7277
      @berniesutton7277 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The idea of "stiffness" in your shorts is pretty unappealing

    • @JustAGlitchFL
      @JustAGlitchFL 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just don't put resin on it. Then you just have carbon woven fabric shorts.

    • @xx-----------xx873
      @xx-----------xx873 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don’t worry, we can build some compliance into them.

  • @Avengerie
    @Avengerie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ollie looks like a werewolf mid-transition when the Sun rises.

  • @DoNuT_1985
    @DoNuT_1985 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you never had one and you have a slight feeling that your riding position isn't ideal. Get a bike fit!
    I spent 3 about hours for 140€, the fitter pretty much changed everything from cleat position and riser pads, to saddle, stem height and handlebar. Boom, 5 seconds on my favorite 5-minute climb, and pretty sure at least +1 kph on my average ride speed. I never went into the high 28's or above on routes with 1% of elevation gain over the full distance. Also, I never had a ride on which Strava estimated 160+ watts avg without any tailwinds.
    The explanation given was that my left hip was somehow 'locked' because I couldn't really turn my ankle outwards and pedal comfortably/fluidly in my position. Could have spent much more a new wheelset but if you're that much off with your setup (I did a big 1500k tour on this bike, though), it's more than marginal gains.

    • @gcntech
      @gcntech  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bike fits are great value for money - especially if you have issues with your position that cause discomfort or pain!

    • @DoNuT_1985
      @DoNuT_1985 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@gcntech Thing is, I didn't have real issues and went with it for 1 1/2 years (including some serious rides and tours), maybe occasionally some pain in the right knee if it had to compensate for longer. Also learned that my current size 54 frame is on the larger end of the spectrum for me (1,75m) , even though pretty much every calculator would suggest that size, and so did the road bike dealer Anyway, I estimate, this has easily unlocked 10-15 watts and I didn't even have to change a single part.

  • @paullinnitt5450
    @paullinnitt5450 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone remember the ‘Hairsine ratio’. Created by Jon Hairsine in the 90’s. Found by dividing mass in grams by cost in £. It was the benchmark for all weight weenies at the time. I remember 1.9” tyres pumped up to 60psi on my Stumpjumper to save a few grams.

  • @zukzworld
    @zukzworld 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great hairstyle!
    Yes, most upgrades people are just do to feel good, not really for going faster. It’s the feel that matters to the most, including me, no exception. ;)

  • @frankstrobel4350
    @frankstrobel4350 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    wait.....carbon fiber computer mounts ?!?........I'm on it !

  • @johnshade4001
    @johnshade4001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    all range of products from Ceramic Speed ))

  • @gefloigle
    @gefloigle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I was going to detach my head and put it on a carbon fibre body and secure it with titanium neck bolts. Sure am glad I watched this video! Thanks, GCN!

    • @stevek8829
      @stevek8829 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I used plastic bolts. They're even lighter than titanium. Just use a torque wrench.

  • @ArisaemaDracontium
    @ArisaemaDracontium 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've had mixed results with Ti bolts. First of all, its more like 2g (or more) per bolt, which adds up. Second, yes some have 'the material properties of cheese' and round-out. Others on the other hand, I have had for a decade or more, and I move them from bike to bike as I get new ones.

  • @paths2go
    @paths2go 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Being practical above all, nice vid!

  • @magicknight8412
    @magicknight8412 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yep got ceramic BB and ceramic jockey wheels and notice zero benefits. Also had a pair of tubular wheels until I realised you had to carry an entire tubular tyre with you which do not fold up very well in your pocket!

  • @jedisdad2265
    @jedisdad2265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love my Ultegra Di2!

  • @frew168
    @frew168 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Totally agree about Ceramic bearings. Hambini also does a good comparison video about them. Cannot for the life of me understand why people buy mega expensive headrace bearings either. How are they going to make your bike better?

  • @DavidSmith-sy2bp
    @DavidSmith-sy2bp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The law of diminishing returns definitely applies on bicycles! But it sure is fun !!

  • @Mihai-Marian-Cenusa
    @Mihai-Marian-Cenusa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sensah Empire 11S groupset.Very interesting Chinese groupset: lightweight and it's shift very crisp!

  • @twatts4436
    @twatts4436 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Wax lube is very good and stands up to the rain in my experience. I use Squirt lube - very good stuff.

    • @hughbriz
      @hughbriz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree - seems good in the wet, and the chain is always going to run better without all that dirt and grit sticking to it

    • @twatts4436
      @twatts4436 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hughbriz just wiping the chain seems to clean everything off. Then the occasional sponge wash to remove stubborn dirt.
      I haven't used degreaser on these bikes since I started using the stuff!

    • @idaf5244
      @idaf5244 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've got a bottle of that laying around but can't seem to get my finger out and clean the drivetrain thoroughly enough to make the switch. Is it really worth it?

    • @euroswilliams7303
      @euroswilliams7303 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Absolute bullshit about wax chains and rain. I wax my chain and would trust that to be there longer than the overpriced mucoff rubbish. GCN can’t go through a video without having a sponsor plug.
      Where has the cycling weekly Ollie gone? By now he seems to be another GCN clone.

    • @twatts4436
      @twatts4436 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@idaf5244 absolutely worth it.
      I made the swap mid summer on a partly used chain.
      Only used mucoffs ceramic lube before swapping to squirt.
      Squirt lasted better in the rain (no squeaking), stayed cleaner, and i haven't had to degrease the chain since first applying it.
      A wipe with a damp cloth is enough to get most dirt off, otherwise a sponge wash.
      Unfortunately i haven't been able to ride outdoors in winter so far due to an injury BUT i was riding throughout autumn, which was pretty wet, and it stood up well to the water and spray.
      Best value bottle of chain lube I've used, both on road and off.

  • @rmm2000
    @rmm2000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very important to look after your pride and joy.

  • @NefastusJones
    @NefastusJones 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Top end upgrades make your wallet lighter, therefore you'll go faster. Q.E.D.

    • @trek520rider2
      @trek520rider2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yesterday someone helped me lighten my bike - they stole my rack bag.

  • @BicycleJason
    @BicycleJason 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    'all the material properties of metallic cheese' - my fave of the year. Go Ollie!

  • @davidwood1561
    @davidwood1561 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. I got some tips that certain components are a waste of money at a certain level and train train. I'd guess adjusting crank arms changing handlebars and pedles is up there. I like my £30 Tri bars bargain. It would be interesting to see what wattage total you could save with all upgrades and how it relates to performance on a pro and say the average Joe cyclists know it all.

  • @xiaoliuwu8539
    @xiaoliuwu8539 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I feel this episode basically said no one should buy stuff from ceramic speed lol

  • @boowiebear
    @boowiebear 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such epic hair. That is definitely worth the upgrade!

  • @jamesward8140
    @jamesward8140 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Waxed chains are Great, squirt chain lube, costs £10 a bottle and I get 20 generous applications, each lasting 150km(so 3.3p per 10km)also in practice gets an extra 700km in each chain, and up to 2000km more in a cassette

  • @acousticgearhead7820
    @acousticgearhead7820 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Squirt chain wax requires a bit of work on the first application (fully degreasing your chain, not anywhere near as much effort as the typical wax job shown in this video) but essentially saves you from cleaning your chain ever again and avoids all the messiness of regular lubes. Holds up better in the wet than dry lube, less messy and mucky than wet lube, self cleaning and relatively cheap. Highly recommend.
    As for titanium bolts: get decent quality ones and use them where required torque is low enough (the torque they can take should be noted on the site that sells them. If not: hands off) and they will work a treat and are a cheap way to customise, bling up and lighten your bike (a tiny bit). Roadies should be used to using a torque wrench/bit anyways with all the fancy carbon everywhere these days.

  • @Milo-wl2if
    @Milo-wl2if 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Clinchers do not have a significant rolling resistance advantage over tubulars. A very good clincher has a marginal advantage over a tubular but less feel. The vast majority of clinchers are significantly slower due to lack of tyre wall suppleness on tarmac.

  • @Darrow1991
    @Darrow1991 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I remember once having to buy a bottle cage. I got a cheap aluminum one; I still have it after many, many years. I saw a cage that was 4x the price of the one I bought and I asked “why”? The sales guy said basically it is carbon and weighs less.
    I am overweight. I will not overpay to get really light stuff on my bike. Riding my bike, a lot, takes care of the weight issue.

  • @mikefule330
    @mikefule330 3 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Ah, cycling: the working man's transport, the simple and cheap hobby that uses minimal resources and is good for the environment. It's amazing how complicated an expensive it is possible to make something so simple and cheap.

    • @Morpheus0000
      @Morpheus0000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Murican Ignorance enjoy your night mate.

    • @JustinKoenigSilica
      @JustinKoenigSilica 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Murican Ignorance a single flight from Europe to New York burns as much fossil fuel energy per person as is required to produce about 300 steaks. I'll keep eating my beef thanks man.

    • @antonhelsgaun
      @antonhelsgaun 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Murican Ignorance I can guarantee you that we won't all start dying in 2030

    • @veryveryintense
      @veryveryintense 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Murican Ignorance I never thought I'd hear someone say getting exercise is bad for the environment and as bad as fossil fuels. I think just starting up your car and driving for 5 minutes is worse for the environment than cycling 100 miles and eating a great feast when you get home, even if you factor in the carbon emissions involved with producing, packaging and distributing the food. If your goal is to highlight the existential threat climate change poses to us all, you failed utterly when you chose to come for cyclists. Using our legs to travel daily and keep the car at home/get rid of it all together is the most efficient and easily realised way to start to solve this problem. Plus agree with others, I hardly eat any meat at this point for this very reason (not vegetarian) and what you are saying is based on a false assumption.

    • @HkFinn83
      @HkFinn83 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Road cycling is for suckers

  • @peterparahuz7094
    @peterparahuz7094 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:39 that's a very decorated cake :D
    7:01 ha ha ha. titanium slices on top of a pizza?

  • @jascollinscork
    @jascollinscork 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I assume your Titanium bolt “friend” was yourself Ollie......???? Fantastic description of the bolts😂😂😂😂😍 very informative video all the same 👌🏻

  • @inspiredtotired8369
    @inspiredtotired8369 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ollie looks very suave today.
    Has he just come back from a screen test to be the new James Bond?
    ... or Oddbod, in the reboot of Carry On Screaming ;-)

  • @Kobe404
    @Kobe404 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    An aero specific jersey and shorts when like me you're 100kg and still lumpy in the wrong places 😄

  • @PaulGM
    @PaulGM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video Ollie. Opinions always differ about these things (ref the other comments), but I for one concur with all your points. One for interest is that I’m not into racing, more endurance and social/general fitness riding, but nonetheless I’m a Di2 convert 😁.

  • @toxicclown3035
    @toxicclown3035 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm ashamed to say that I also fell foul of the Ti seat post bolt. They're a bugger to drill out, too.

  • @TheMelvice
    @TheMelvice ปีที่แล้ว

    Good quality product. Correct, fast transport service.

  • @GM-lq7sw
    @GM-lq7sw 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Since I mounted tubulars 4 years ago, never any flat tyre

  • @philadams9254
    @philadams9254 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wow, this is like a description of my hill climb bike 😂

  • @simeongroeneveld2000
    @simeongroeneveld2000 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:00 You crack me up ollie

  • @bikepackingadventure7913
    @bikepackingadventure7913 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Carbon Everything- well apart from BB shells with poor manufacturing tolerances on many carbon frames

    • @merckxy54
      @merckxy54 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hambini will tell you all about miss aligned BB's

  • @ZOB4
    @ZOB4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Regarding tubular tires vs clinchers - Tubeless is better in terms of safety, weight, and rolling resistance to both of them, and is less faff than tubs.

    • @joergbeigang
      @joergbeigang 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not having any experience with tubeless on a road bike. But on mtb I once had a tubeless tire literally jumping off my front rim on a very steep and rocky downhill section. Wasn't very fast, so nothing happened. But if I think of that happening at high speed I'm getting pretty sweaty hands.
      How exactly does a tubeless tire behave on a road bike when loosing the air? How is it safer then a tubular tire?

  • @betujain7378
    @betujain7378 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Ollie you forgot 1 way to save watt : Always use Washroom in morning to save a few pounds of weight off you bike 😉😉

    • @fritzb.3978
      @fritzb.3978 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry, I’m an American...Does that mean drop a major deuce in the morning? That’ll save a pound or two. Müsli: THE best and cheapest way to save weight on a bike.

  • @oftankoftan
    @oftankoftan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    a waxed chain with PTFE powder won't lose the wax in the rain. there's no way. I can't even get the stuff off with warm water and soap. It only comes off with gasoline (or some other strong solvent) or boiling water.

    • @davidmarshall2399
      @davidmarshall2399 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ceramic speed obviously no longer a sponsor but MucOff is definitely onboard

    • @oftankoftan
      @oftankoftan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidmarshall2399 Global Commercial Network.

  • @runningwithshemp
    @runningwithshemp 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I still buy the best mechanical shifter from any of three major brands and use lesser stuff like Ultegra, 105 across the rest of the bike. I've time I've used Ultegra, Force or Centaur I've been very disappointed. Stuff like cranks or brakes I've never noticed a difference

  • @chrischevalier6107
    @chrischevalier6107 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Campagnolo does have second tier groupsets but does not have "sponsored content" on GCN. Guess they do not exist

    • @weareallbeingwatched4602
      @weareallbeingwatched4602 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They will be bought by SRAM at some point...

    • @fukav1am
      @fukav1am 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Campagnolo was concentrating on the top end - being the solely maker for TdF winners for a long time - that they not only lost the hobby riders sector but also most of the pro peloton with it. Now they introduced a cheaper Centaur, but is way too late, they just went out of the radar of most ordinary bike riders. People now think should I buy 105 or Ultegra? Or perhaps Rival or Force? But many people won't even realize there is also Campagnolo available, most OEM companies never used Campagnolo, Campagnolo mostly only served bike builders and small companies and now people are buying from large brands like Specialized, Canyon, Giant,... and Campagnolo lost the game when they did not concentrate on these.

    • @thesoultwins72
      @thesoultwins72 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chris Chevalier.......Although I have used Campagnolo Super Record group-sets for over 20 years - Campagnolo's 'second tier' group-set [Chorus] is excellent. I used it when I first got into cycling and never had any issues. I believe some pro teams use Chorus too - and not just on their training bikes.

  • @mattmatthews5414
    @mattmatthews5414 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve never heard of any titanium alloy behaving in a way described in this video. That anecdotal guy either had an aluminum alloy bolt or the wrong size Allen wrench (SAE mixed with metric).

  • @user-rv9qi7gb2b
    @user-rv9qi7gb2b 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Changing frame is the best.

  • @TheKrrn
    @TheKrrn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Ollie was your "uni friend" really you?

    • @mathewrose2951
      @mathewrose2951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Perhaps they should put a poll on the app and let people vote, but I am sure I would guess in the affirmative on that.

  • @outaspaceman
    @outaspaceman 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Shimano 105 is the dog’s knob..👍

  • @adamjankowski7679
    @adamjankowski7679 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sorry but I can change a tubular tire out just as fast as a guy with a clencher. The cost is well worth the rotating inertia savings during acceleration as well as the ride feel.

  • @GregLanz
    @GregLanz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Waxed chains I would say are way cheaper than most lubes and it's not time consuming in the slightest. The lack of cleanup of the chain, cassette, chainrings and jockey wheels more than makes up for the time it takes to heat up wax once a month or so. It becomes extra beneficial when doing multiple chains. A box of paraffin wax cost me $6 Canadian 2 years ago and I'm still using it. Way cheaper, I'm guessing however once their sponsor starts selling wax though the story will be different

  • @chriswhatsoever2001
    @chriswhatsoever2001 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:32 ollie missed the opportunity to call out his hour record attempt. 😁

  • @cundall
    @cundall 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dura Ace Di2. It's like £1k more than Ultegra and offers only some small weight bonus.

  • @The1trueDave
    @The1trueDave 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    6:20 it's not just that the tyres are expensive, you obviously need new wheels (or at the very least new rims lacing onto your old hub) as well. In practice it's probably new wheelset time and if you're at the level where you're looking at tubulars in the first place you're probably into four figures...

  • @TheCatwhisper
    @TheCatwhisper 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Gold leaf on the cherry on the top of the cake of upgrades"...............brilliant...

  • @stubbietubbie
    @stubbietubbie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ollie looking as slick as a vampire with his new 'do.

    • @SLOPPEWALL
      @SLOPPEWALL 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or a doorman at a methadone clinic.

  • @willemvoorneveld9214
    @willemvoorneveld9214 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The claims around rolling resistance for clincher tires only exist in the labs of Specialized; it does not materialize in the real world. Note also the comfort disadvantage of clinchers.

  • @ahamos
    @ahamos 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hard disagree on ceramic bearings... in some cases. I swapped to a ceramic-bearing bottom bracket on my race bike in November 2015, and it's still rolling butter smooth after 20K+ miles. Every 5K miles or so, I tear the whole thing down and re-grease it, but it's lasted longer and spins better than the BB's on ANYTHING else in my toybox. I wouldn't waste the effort on any other part of the bike, though.

  • @GregorPQ
    @GregorPQ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Titanium bolts are better for winter riding!

  • @l.d.t.6327
    @l.d.t.6327 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please tell me what is raising the cost of tubulars? You get tubular wheels often cheaper (for sure second hand), and a good tubular costsaround 60, so marginally more than a good clincher tire (around 40). So you get a lighter, cheaper tubular wheelset and 2 pairs of tubulars for the price of a clincher set with a pair of clinchers. You'll have 10000K of better riding with those tubulars before they get more costly.
    And clinchers don't have vastly superior rolling resistance. Forget that marketing talk.
    And if anything helps, it is a good clean chain. It's actually the most important cause of friction of all parts turning on your bike.
    One more advice: the one thing causing drag in your bearings are your seals. If you ride in dry weather, get all the seals out and clean / re-lube once a month. That's a night and day difference with sealed bearings. If you are afraid of dirt getting in your bearings and think it's foolish to take out the seals, think of all dirt that can freely reach your chain, which is, as said, the number one friction part on your bike.

  • @levethane
    @levethane 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My mate spent a lot of $$ on some carbon fibre bits for his bike, knocked about 250g off the weight, factoring in he weighs 110kg just seemed completely pointless when a light breakfast would save him more weight for nothing.

  • @ukdirector85
    @ukdirector85 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You've made it in life if you're upgrading your headset bearings to Ceramic - one can only dream.

    • @gustavmeyrink_2.0
      @gustavmeyrink_2.0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Actually I think you lost in Life if you use headset bearings to ceramic because it proves you're a complete sucker.

    • @ukdirector85
      @ukdirector85 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gustav Meyrink have you had a sense of humour transplant pal?

  • @julmeissonnier
    @julmeissonnier 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tubulars are both actually faster and waaaay cheaper, that is when you buy super high-end wheels for one-quarter of the price from someone with too much money who bought them as "race day wheels" rode them in two races and realized that they do not have the confidence to glue them themselves and do not know how to change them and it is going to be a pain to call UBER every flat and pay the shop to do it for them. Had a great pair of tubular Zipp 303 for a while that I got with a used Litespeed, sold them used and build meself new wheels for the money... By the way, tubulars are fast to change by the road side when you know what you are doing...

  • @ivorbrae
    @ivorbrae 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to admit, I have Titanium bolts holding the bars on the stem... not for any 'Weight Weenie' reasons mind you: I was sick to the teeth of them rusting every time the humidity rose above 3%.

  • @jameswoods4656
    @jameswoods4656 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just had an old Falcon race bike refurbished and modernized and carbon bars of the correct diameter aren't available even if I did want them.

  • @StopaskingformynameYouTube
    @StopaskingformynameYouTube 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    If there's one thing here i would dissagree with, it's waxed chains.
    I wax my chains and i don't do it for performance gains, i do it to reduce the need for cleaning as it's way easier to clean aswell as less to clean, even after a ride in a muddy forest trail.

  • @frew168
    @frew168 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Waxing the chain isnt all about efficieny gains. It also prolongs your chain and drive train life by a huge amount. Several good vids about it. Also it doesnt take that long after your initial foray into it

  • @stubbietubbie
    @stubbietubbie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ollie saying "carbon" without also "lay-up" is frankly shocking. I didn't know he could do that.

  • @j3st3rjok3r
    @j3st3rjok3r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any upgrade is bad, if you don't work on your health and weight. If you got the money to blow on a $10k bike, though then complain it's too slow, news flash it ain't the bike. Some riders tend to forget, you're the engine on a bicycle

  • @thebatman3782
    @thebatman3782 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    apparently no one at GCN has heard of vittoria pit stop

  • @mopedvieh
    @mopedvieh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Carbon bottle cages. They are like 5g lighter than plastic ones but cost three times as much.

    • @davidtydeman1434
      @davidtydeman1434 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      My carbon fibre bottle cages cost $4 each on Aliexpress and have lasted for 2 years already. Enjoy your cycling

  • @macstmanj3
    @macstmanj3 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Titanium can be RIDICULOUSLY soft, or very hard. If you're going to use it, learn about grade 2, 5, 23, etc so you don't waste your money or time

  • @brendonnoble5227
    @brendonnoble5227 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    An oversized carbon fibre computer mount can be used instead of aerobars in the tour de France...

  • @janwillemkuilenburg7561
    @janwillemkuilenburg7561 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The instructions in the GCN wax your chain video are not complete, because the paraffine oil component is missing.

  • @minervali631
    @minervali631 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I mean if you are going to upgrade your groupset, you should go for the top option. The difference between 105 and ultegra is very little.

  • @LooksInteractive
    @LooksInteractive 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 1:15sec the picture shows a group set, what special derailleur cogs does it have, and what else is special about it? ps. Thanks for the show.

  • @antonydartnall
    @antonydartnall 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi guys, got an Ammaco Mineral drop bar gravel bike, part way through changing it flat bars. I thought I would also upgrade the dreadful cable disk brakes from Shimano Tourney to Shimano M6000 hydraulic brakes. I have the new brakes,,,,,, and they don’t fit. Can they be made to fit or have I sodded up??? Please advise???