Indeed! When I saw those control arms I thought there was no way they would go into production with them.. but they did. I’m a mechanical engineer by trade and they just make me cringe looking at them. Should be about twice as thick.
@banderson1979 I have a wife, so I'm good. But I stand by my comment. I wish more women were like her instead of being an empty shell that knows nothing but tik tok, soaps, and cosmetics.
12:00 I worked with professional carbon fiber race bicycles and they get destroyed by human sweat, the salt from the sweat would eat into the carbon fiber frames especially around the handle bars and turns it to mush similer to something like a chewed up rawhide dog treat, I can imagine in colder areas they road salt eats carbon fiber on cars in a similer way..
That’s wild! I was a bicycle mechanic for 9 years but that’s was before carbon went mainstream so I never saw this myself but I would think this would depend on the resin used and how well sealed it was. Very interesting.
I hit my bolt ev on a pothole that was 1' deep x2'x2' at like 10 mph maybe 15. The car was full and we all bashed our heads on the ceiling. The tire popped and that was it
That control arm is very short and located very high relative to the axle, so there is very little stress on it because of the high leverage it has on the suspension. 1 failure doesn't indicate a design flaw
Seen an engineers truck bend one while offroading also early on. Other manufacturers use beefy forged control arms on trucks that weigh less. Different strength metrics I guess.
I think April, of all people, should explain how bad Chicago pot holes really are, and that upper control arm design on the Cybertruck is simply not designed to withstand either Chicago or Detroit. Sorry Leon, back to the drawing board.
I was going to point this out. They had issues with the spindle/hub breaking in half. My concern is there isn't anything beefy to mount to on the frame. You can't just reinforce aluminum like you can a steel frame.
In 1974 Chrysler saw upper control arm failures at the ball joint in new C body Chrysler products. The recall involved welding metal that resembled the U portion of a muffler clamp around the perimeter of the ball joint on the control arm. Sounded sketchy to me but it worked and stopped breakage completely. Tesla may do have to do something similar.
@memertmemes2586 I never found Afrikaner Elon to have a "likeable personality". Musk has always been an egotistical, xenophobic, narcissistic, agenda pushing, non American, "dude" that steam rolls everyone (especially if you don't agree with him), nearly every time I have seen him being "interviewed" I have found another thing that repulses me. He has yet to "invent" anything useful - electric cars were around since the early 1900's, the batteries just weren't there till more recently. His "opinions" are definitely "based" tho...
April's Garage keeps getting better. Like that you are taking more of a forefront of the show April with Hoovie being more of the commentary on your opinions.
11:00 The values of EVs are dropping because all the incentives make it so cheap to lease a new one. Who would ever buy a 500E if you can lease one for $40 a month ?
Diesel Bros installed tracks on their Cyber truck and tore off the arms and broke the spindle assembly. Now they Mfg several reenforced parts and list for 38" tires
Many automotive CEOs don’t know anything about building cars either. Most of them come from marketing or sales. It’s all about hiring the right people for the job that actually know what they’re doing.
9:36 mark is the best clip of this video, the look on April's face when she says "I just think it's so hot you know all that stuff", Hoovie is like ok that's a wrap we have important business to tend to here. Good stuff guy!
20 years ago I had an Aerostar van I did a lot of Whistlin Diesel level stuff to. I welded the transmission into a solid lump, and blew the motor, but I never tore the tow hitch off
The definition of insanity is to fix the truck with the same deficient parts. The moral of this story is to not buy a Cybertruck until Tesla is forced to either re-design the truck or pull the plug.
They are doing this in Norway if you buy a gas or Diesel car they are putting a a 100 % tax on the car but nothing on EV’s and it’s working look at the EV adoption.
I disagree, EVs are depreciating because they are WAY over priced to begin with. yes battery degradation is a concern, but IMHO the depreciation we are seeing is the poor pricing models manufactures think they can get away with because inflation and what these vehicles are selling for on the second hand market is closer to reality of what people are actually willing to pay for them.
Why are there 2 completely different parts being compared and then smugly stating "I was right"? While that control arm could use a little more reinforcement in some critical areas possibly, the failure was not the control arm but rather the strut mount at the top. You can see the ribs in the gigacasting or whatever dumb name they called it from the first underneath photo where it poked through to the top photo.
$32k seems cheap compared to fixing a small dent in a rivian. My son literally had a dent that would have been $700-$800 to fix on a regular car. 7 months, $20k later he got it back and then offed it.
Sadly these new EVs are built disposable. I have a model y and they handle direct rear Enders pretty well, but any major fender bender and it’s totaled with that die cast frame.
A dealership close to me imported one black cybertruck to Dom.Rep and the control arm broke going over a pothole. He was going a moderate high speed over the limit, but nothing crazy and the thing just went over the pothole and all i hear was a big snap sound and then the tired robbing all over the inner fender and metal grinding. Almost everyone on the neigh hood was needed to push the whole damn thing off the road
Dang, that’s wild! Those control arms need to be double thickness. I’m a mechanical engineer myself and some things are so obvious, no analysis is required to say, that’s undersized.
This has been a huge problem for the older model S as well, I have owned a few teslas and have seen countless failures (in forums, didn’t happen to me), usually happens when taking sharp turns at low speed (when parking etc.) Owners have been asking for a general recall for years.
Why are E Cars depreciating so badly? Bc they still kinda suck, crappy range, lack of charging stations, and major components crap out for no reason. Make them better, more comparable to a reliable petrol car
I think it’s more a matter of market saturation. They went from rare to being the most common cars on the road in some places like Seattle where is live. Sometimes I see 5 Teslas in a row on the freeway just by chance. I own a model Y and I absolutely love the car, but I know the $55k I spent on it will go to close to zero in 15 years but that’s really pretty typical for a car purchase. I still like it so much, I’m buying Tesla from now on.
Absolutely not, but neither are the other full size trucks on the market. Short people (aka, kids) get run over at cross walks because new trucks are too tall to see them. The carmakers don’t care. The laws don’t force them to do anything about it.
@mylesgray3470 what about all the safety systems?, ABS, infrared sensors,optical sensors, radars. All of these should prevent or reduce accidents with pedestrians
@@enoughofthis The sensors and cameras absolutely could be used that way, but as of now, they are only used when the cars are in autopilot for the most part. The manufacturers just need to do the work. I’m in favor of laws the remove trucks from safety exemptions because they are everywhere.
Cast Aluminium is q terrible choice for something that has to take impacts - it has no sense of humour, just like glass. Forged, extruded or rolled is ok.
Drove a Nissan Leaf as a daily commuter car for eight years, $14K for a two year old off lease top of line car. Got a tax break which I used for a home charging station and the car operated flawlessly, zero maintenance, zero trips to the gas station. EVs have a place, just not an enthusiast vehicle. It could never replace my Miata.
Just thought of a flaw in the EV plan, "charge at home overnight" when the solar farms are not functioning because its dark lol. Today in the UK we paid some £12M "Grand British Pounds" to turn off some wind farms (a penalty to the operator's if not used) as they were making too much electricity at the wrong time.
Good call Tyler. If they're going to make it, smaller for the standards of a truck they should make it out of something else to make them stronger. Now since Tesla is a where of this problem, they should change them from this time forward.
In Norway ICE cars already is more expensive than EVs. It's THE reason Norway has so many EVs. And I absolutely hate it. It has gone so far importers barely import ICE cars anymore. It's hard to find a good looking and practical new ICE car at dealers. The EVs has no VAT it only has about 1$ pr kilo in weight tax. The ICE cars has 25% VAT + CO2 tax and weight tax. Therefore regular ICE cars is just as expensive as luxury EVs. Often even more expensive.
0:40 The first time I saw the upper control arm, I thought it looks like something out of an 80's Volkswagen (lower control arm), but probably even flimsier. Interested to see what will be discussed and potentially shown in the video.
The $50K price drop sure hurt the MSP. We bought a new one after the price drop. Yes, it still went down but oh well. I did get my refund on my Cybertruck reservation this week.
I think the problem with the Model S Plaid is that is looks like the regular Model S and the regular one is already super fast. At some point, the car is fast enough and the S Plaid is well past that point. The S is my dream car, no the S Plaid.
nah, the lower control arm on my Mini Cooper is beefier than that, though a similar design its clearly thicker metal and beefier. Im sure the engineers did not want to sign off on that design.
In Norway ICE cars have always been much more expensive. Bigger engine = more expensive. So of all the Golfs here, very few are GTI's or R's and BMW 3-series are almost never an M3. Also the cheapest Tesla Model S Plaid in Norway is $70k. 2022 with 34k miles.
That’s should be covered by vehicle warranty. Nothing is “free”. It’s going to come back in higher taxes and registration. It’s going to cost as much charge the EV as full tank gas in suv, when there’re more EVs as fuel cars.
I wouldn't mind an EV but first I'd want better charger availability and better battery support. They need to be built with future battery replacement in mind but I doubt auto makers will ever do that.
I live in Colorado, and I'm intrigued by the $0 Fiat. If I can afford the insurance for a new driver, I may be tempted to get one. My kid turns 16 soon, and I'm tired of being a chauffeur.
I would say do a good bit of research first because there is always a catch. My boss leased a Ford Mustang EV because the lease deal was so cheap but it’s been in the shop a month with some strange software issue. In his case, reliability was the catch and with Fiat, I’d guess that could the catch here too.
looks more like the strut tower failure that Porsche has with 991 gt3's and gt4's, but at least with Porsche its a $600 part and 6 hours to replace it.
If leasing an EV through salary sacrifice definitely. The problem is that there are next to no incentives for a second owner when the lease expires after three years. Hence massive depreciation.
It is SO easy to point fingers indiscriminately. One incident that is questionable at best does not warrent a recall. Most people have no concept of the research and development that goes into new vehicle production. Anyone who drives a Tesla for any length of time quickly realize that no other car makes sense. By the way there are Teslas with nearly half a million miles on them and over half of the original Tesla Model S's are still on the road. That's a 20+ year old vehicle. As Always, May God Bless you and yours! 😇
Apris seem super intelligent. Nothing against hoovie but I would really like her to do her show solo or with "guests". I want her take without being pushed by hoovie in a direction.
Sorry (not sorry) to say this, the Cybertruck is a design flaw on 4 wheels! EDIT: They'll stay on lots too here in Canada.
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My guess is 99.9% of Cybertruck owners never take them off-road, or even on a gravel road, which is why you haven't seen a lot more of those control arms failing. Also, how does April know that Tyler's friends are packing?
Don't buy a Cybertruck, buy a Toyota Hilux. It may look underwhelming, but it's not uglier than the Lego shaped truck. It may not be fast, but it's unbreakable. You may not be able to show off with, but people like April will know that you're packing like Hoovie's friends 😄
The cybertruck is likely just built on the model x platform. Having a hard time believing that truck is a new design from the ground up; they just bolted steel panels to the model x skateboard
Yea, what they leave out is what the did to cause the rims to fail. Obviously they did something. Most every car uses cast aluminum wheels also, that car is just extra heavy. They likely hit a curb really hard.
it's not that manufacturers are chasing high margin high price configurations rather than low price high volume models? really, it's the safety equipment??? seriously hoovie, come on man
I wanted to point out one thing. ICE cars of the past 10 years or so have had these large screens with software to update, etc. I don’t think that’s the reason Electric cars lose value so quick. I think it more of what the guy said at first. People don’t really know how long these cars last as far as the battery and electric motors. This is even though Tesla has been making the Model S since like 2010/2011. It’s going to take people another 10 years to realize it’s an over reaction! As for ICE cars being more expensive to force people to buy EV’s, no need! Easiest thing to do is raise the price at the pump!
Hoovie May have the dumbest channel on youtube, but he called getting out of the Tesla Rolling Refrigerator correctly.
Yes, but wouldn't have been better if one did not buy it in the first place?
@@go4lowcost652 Bingo, of course. And only for the views anyways.
He is probably the smartest car TH-cam out there.
@@go4lowcost652 i mean sure but he was almost contractually obligated
Happy he did get one with all the waiting ect. . Dumped it with perfect timing
The stock control arms on my Miata are beefier than those LOL
Just picked up an NB and you're right!
April reminding us how the arguments at home go 😂😂
The control arm in the picture looked like cast aluminum where the one on Hoovies looked like stamped steel
That's what I saw.
@@achaney looks like it's the shock mount rather than the arm.
I think it's the suspension ball joint
Since the CyberTruck has to carry that 1000 lb battery, it needs a stronger suspension not flimsier.
Indeed! When I saw those control arms I thought there was no way they would go into production with them.. but they did. I’m a mechanical engineer by trade and they just make me cringe looking at them. Should be about twice as thick.
I wish there's more women like April, she is one cool chick
Simp
There's almost 8 billion people on Earth. Go outside more.
@banderson1979 I have a wife, so I'm good. But I stand by my comment. I wish more women were like her instead of being an empty shell that knows nothing but tik tok, soaps, and cosmetics.
@@banderson1979 what does that even mean?
My wife would like me to have 1 truck. Nighbors have 8 cars 😅 his wife is car girl he drives a wrx 😅 she has 7 other subs and ev.s
That is not the upper control arm. It appears to be the mount for the air bag.
more accurately the strut mount but I think that's what you meant since it's an air strut.
The cybertruck has many design flaws
12:00 I worked with professional carbon fiber race bicycles and they get destroyed by human sweat, the salt from the sweat would eat into the carbon fiber frames especially around the handle bars and turns it to mush similer to something like a chewed up rawhide dog treat, I can imagine in colder areas they road salt eats carbon fiber on cars in a similer way..
Oh dam. Also they are taking about the clear is fading. What you said if not an issue on cars. My sister has had one for years and years
That’s wild! I was a bicycle mechanic for 9 years but that’s was before carbon went mainstream so I never saw this myself but I would think this would depend on the resin used and how well sealed it was. Very interesting.
I’m calling BS on a pothole doing that to a control arm. That’s what he told the insurance company.
seeing what has happened to many more.... I highly doubt it is b.s, even more so with the weight
I hit my bolt ev on a pothole that was 1' deep x2'x2' at like 10 mph maybe 15. The car was full and we all bashed our heads on the ceiling. The tire popped and that was it
Still. A control arm on what's SUPPOSED to be a utility vehicle shouldn't be that thin.
The cyber truck is under-engineered to use as a Truck to take offroad.
It is a street truck with its current level of build strength.
Come to Van BC .. Pot holes 4-5+ in deep .. they put a cone warning you but it's too late .. lol
Tesla bois: “This is just FUD, failing catastrophically instead of failing safe is by design.”
According to my wife, I was right once in 2003. I think it was sometime in October 😎
glad I am a 60 yr old lifelong bachelor, I am ALWAYS right
That control arm is very short and located very high relative to the axle, so there is very little stress on it because of the high leverage it has on the suspension. 1 failure doesn't indicate a design flaw
Seen an engineers truck bend one while offroading also early on. Other manufacturers use beefy forged control arms on trucks that weigh less. Different strength metrics I guess.
I think April, of all people, should explain how bad Chicago pot holes really are, and that upper control arm design on the Cybertruck is simply not designed to withstand either Chicago or Detroit. Sorry Leon, back to the drawing board.
“Leon” go talk to “Tim Apple”
@@charlesgallagher1376 LOL, that comment made my day! Thank you!
I think April is finally getting the hang of this format and as much as it may sting....she has turned into a mighty fine (and funny) You Tuber!!!!
I pretty sure this happened to HeavyDSparks cybertruck too.
While it had massive tracks on it instead of normal tires, right?
@@Datsem Yeah I believe so, probably put more shear stress on that part too
The diesel Brothers called this out the first week and has a upgrade already designed for it.
I was going to point this out. They had issues with the spindle/hub breaking in half. My concern is there isn't anything beefy to mount to on the frame. You can't just reinforce aluminum like you can a steel frame.
In 1974 Chrysler saw upper control arm failures at the ball joint in new C body Chrysler products. The recall involved welding metal that resembled the U portion of a muffler clamp around the perimeter of the ball joint on the control arm. Sounded sketchy to me but it worked and stopped breakage completely. Tesla may do have to do something similar.
People need to stop fan boying Enron Musks junk.
Yep, they love getting scammed by the dude because he has a likeable personality and based opinions.
@memertmemes2586 I never found Afrikaner Elon to have a "likeable personality". Musk has always been an egotistical, xenophobic, narcissistic, agenda pushing, non American, "dude" that steam rolls everyone (especially if you don't agree with him), nearly every time I have seen him being "interviewed" I have found another thing that repulses me. He has yet to "invent" anything useful - electric cars were around since the early 1900's, the batteries just weren't there till more recently. His "opinions" are definitely "based" tho...
@@memertmemes2586 They really do. I still don't get it. Now he has him hand in the govt. pocket. Game over ha.
April's Garage keeps getting better. Like that you are taking more of a forefront of the show April with Hoovie being more of the commentary on your opinions.
11:00 The values of EVs are dropping because all the incentives make it so cheap to lease a new one. Who would ever buy a 500E if you can lease one for $40 a month ?
Best depreciated EV value? One word answer… Lucid. Three word… Lucid Air Sapphire.
Those cars are beautiful. I see them around Seattle a lot.
Diesel Bros installed tracks on their Cyber truck and tore off the arms and broke the spindle assembly. Now they Mfg several reenforced parts and list for 38" tires
Musk: No one is actually going to off-road this thing, make the parts as thin as possible!
of course, let's see if ANY soy boys even take these things outside of a starbucks parking lot
The carbon fiber on roofs degrades so fast, GM developed a clear coat that cost $60,000 per gallon.
9:14 I really enjoy the way the videos are being edited lately hahaha keep the good work!
His Royal Muskness really doesn't know anything about building cars. Whenever he gets something right, it is purely by chance.
Many automotive CEOs don’t know anything about building cars either. Most of them come from marketing or sales. It’s all about hiring the right people for the job that actually know what they’re doing.
I love April's warped humor! You go, girl!
i love all the Botox cheeks about 1/2 lb injected there
9:36 mark is the best clip of this video, the look on April's face when she says "I just think it's so hot you know all that stuff", Hoovie is like ok that's a wrap we have important business to tend to here. Good stuff guy!
Love the chemistry. Keep having fun and making videos
yep Tyler is not the brightest hammer in the bag now
He might have got the Cybertruck truck right, but he got the Countach sale wrong. 😢
I disagree. The Lamborghini market has peaked and it’s actually headed down. He knows when to sell.
20 years ago I had an Aerostar van I did a lot of Whistlin Diesel level stuff to. I welded the transmission into a solid lump, and blew the motor, but I never tore the tow hitch off
Great video. Love this channel. So dudes truck broke and they fixed it with the same parts?
The definition of insanity is to fix the truck with the same deficient parts. The moral of this story is to not buy a Cybertruck until Tesla is forced to either re-design the truck or pull the plug.
They are doing this in Norway if you buy a gas or Diesel car they are putting a a 100 % tax on the car but nothing on EV’s and it’s working look at the EV adoption.
How terrible, I hope they keep that stupid idea in Norway.
That’s moronic, let the free market reign.
I disagree, EVs are depreciating because they are WAY over priced to begin with. yes battery degradation is a concern, but IMHO the depreciation we are seeing is the poor pricing models manufactures think they can get away with because inflation and what these vehicles are selling for on the second hand market is closer to reality of what people are actually willing to pay for them.
Yep, also the early models were kinda limited on range, which contributes to the cheap prices.
Why are there 2 completely different parts being compared and then smugly stating "I was right"? While that control arm could use a little more reinforcement in some critical areas possibly, the failure was not the control arm but rather the strut mount at the top. You can see the ribs in the gigacasting or whatever dumb name they called it from the first underneath photo where it poked through to the top photo.
! Engineer / Designer Smoking weed : " What's the Problem? It works doesn't It! "
$32k seems cheap compared to fixing a small dent in a rivian. My son literally had a dent that would have been $700-$800 to fix on a regular car. 7 months, $20k later he got it back and then offed it.
Sadly these new EVs are built disposable. I have a model y and they handle direct rear Enders pretty well, but any major fender bender and it’s totaled with that die cast frame.
A dealership close to me imported one black cybertruck to Dom.Rep and the control arm broke going over a pothole. He was going a moderate high speed over the limit, but nothing crazy and the thing just went over the pothole and all i hear was a big snap sound and then the tired robbing all over the inner fender and metal grinding.
Almost everyone on the neigh hood was needed to push the whole damn thing off the road
Dang, that’s wild! Those control arms need to be double thickness. I’m a mechanical engineer myself and some things are so obvious, no analysis is required to say, that’s undersized.
Maybe government should just stop incentives or penalties on all car sales and let the market decide
The US would end up with no car industry at all.
Not true, EVs account for only 9% of sales in the US
Yup, stop subsidies for ev's and the oil and gas industry. Mass adoption for rv's would happen when a gallon of gas went to 15 a gallon.
@@olebloom1641 Couple that with an ending of tariffs on Chinese EVs and Chinese solar and the US would go electric quicker than Norway.
Crappy build quality, elon should stay out of the govt and car building .
First successful American car company in forever and people want to hate. One thing I know- Elon is a lot smarter than you.
This has been a huge problem for the older model S as well, I have owned a few teslas and have seen countless failures (in forums, didn’t happen to me), usually happens when taking sharp turns at low speed (when parking etc.) Owners have been asking for a general recall for years.
The Cybertruck is one of the biggest rolling pieces of junk ever produced. People are REALLY going to regret their purchases of this thing.
Why are E Cars depreciating so badly? Bc they still kinda suck, crappy range, lack of charging stations, and major components crap out for no reason. Make them better, more comparable to a reliable petrol car
I think it’s more a matter of market saturation. They went from rare to being the most common cars on the road in some places like Seattle where is live. Sometimes I see 5 Teslas in a row on the freeway just by chance. I own a model Y and I absolutely love the car, but I know the $55k I spent on it will go to close to zero in 15 years but that’s really pretty typical for a car purchase. I still like it so much, I’m buying Tesla from now on.
What car is safe for pedestrians?
Chevrolegs
Absolutely not, but neither are the other full size trucks on the market. Short people (aka, kids) get run over at cross walks because new trucks are too tall to see them. The carmakers don’t care. The laws don’t force them to do anything about it.
@mylesgray3470 what about all the safety systems?, ABS, infrared sensors,optical sensors, radars.
All of these should prevent or reduce accidents with pedestrians
@@enoughofthis The sensors and cameras absolutely could be used that way, but as of now, they are only used when the cars are in autopilot for the most part. The manufacturers just need to do the work. I’m in favor of laws the remove trucks from safety exemptions because they are everywhere.
Cast Aluminium is q terrible choice for something that has to take impacts - it has no sense of humour, just like glass.
Forged, extruded or rolled is ok.
No sense of humor...you mean flex?
Drove a Nissan Leaf as a daily commuter car for eight years, $14K for a two year old off lease top of line car. Got a tax break which I used for a home charging station and the car operated flawlessly, zero maintenance, zero trips to the gas station. EVs have a place, just not an enthusiast vehicle. It could never replace my Miata.
Just thought of a flaw in the EV plan, "charge at home overnight" when the solar farms are not functioning because its dark lol. Today in the UK we paid some £12M "Grand British Pounds" to turn off some wind farms (a penalty to the operator's if not used) as they were making too much electricity at the wrong time.
Good call Tyler. If they're going to make it, smaller for the standards of a truck they should make it out of something else to make them stronger. Now since Tesla is a where of this problem, they should change them from this time forward.
In Norway ICE cars already is more expensive than EVs. It's THE reason Norway has so many EVs. And I absolutely hate it. It has gone so far importers barely import ICE cars anymore. It's hard to find a good looking and practical new ICE car at dealers.
The EVs has no VAT it only has about 1$ pr kilo in weight tax.
The ICE cars has 25% VAT + CO2 tax and weight tax.
Therefore regular ICE cars is just as expensive as luxury EVs. Often even more expensive.
I love this channel and the chemistry Hoovie and April have but her mannerisms drive me nuts!
Another example of the Cybertruck being a useless piece of junk.
What other examples are there?
Oddly enough the UK government did just hike the first-year tax for new petrol and diesel cars...
Y'all rock! How about doing a review of the 2025 John Deer Pickup?
0:40 The first time I saw the upper control arm, I thought it looks like something out of an 80's Volkswagen (lower control arm), but probably even flimsier. Interested to see what will be discussed and potentially shown in the video.
A Florida Toyota dealer has a Tesla Model S Plaid and a Cybertruck which he had polished to a mirror finish.
The $50K price drop sure hurt the MSP. We bought a new one after the price drop. Yes, it still went down but oh well. I did get my refund on my Cybertruck reservation this week.
10:30 ~ "Who knows what the real story behind Tucker was..." Ask Steve Lehto, he'll tell you ALL about it! He even wrote a book on the subject.
Dealers here in Vancouver, Canada posted cybertrucks for sale for 150-160k CA$. Not sure how long it'll take for them to be sold at that price.
The hummer EV and the Silverado EV are cheaper ironically
I’ll make a prediction. They will need to wait about 20 years till the currency looses half its value to sell at this price. 😂
I think the problem with the Model S Plaid is that is looks like the regular Model S and the regular one is already super fast. At some point, the car is fast enough and the S Plaid is well past that point. The S is my dream car, no the S Plaid.
nah, the lower control arm on my Mini Cooper is beefier than that, though a similar design its clearly thicker metal and beefier. Im sure the engineers did not want to sign off on that design.
I wonder how many years April has been doing Co-Caine
Such a beautiful couple!!!!!
Norway has done this kind of change for years instead of rebates for EVs.
In Norway ICE cars have always been much more expensive. Bigger engine = more expensive. So of all the Golfs here, very few are GTI's or R's and BMW 3-series are almost never an M3.
Also the cheapest Tesla Model S Plaid in Norway is $70k. 2022 with 34k miles.
That’s should be covered by vehicle warranty.
Nothing is “free”. It’s going to come back in higher taxes and registration. It’s going to cost as much charge the EV as full tank gas in suv, when there’re more EVs as fuel cars.
The control arms have been an integral part of vehicle suspension systems for well over a century!
Apparently, in the UK, Yiannimize has imported the Tesla Cybertruck from ths USA to Greece and then the UK.
I thought they were not street Legal there. Off-road only?
Has he been able to get it registered though? Our laws are fairly liberal for grey imports but not _that_ liberal.
@Gordanovich02 they're in the process of getting it certified. Seen another one get passed in Poland.
How do the Cybertruck control arms compare with those on Range Rover Evoque ? Just asking 🙂
A man who drives a I3 has the girth of a Tesla cyber truck upper control arm
I wouldn't mind an EV but first I'd want better charger availability and better battery support. They need to be built with future battery replacement in mind but I doubt auto makers will ever do that.
curies how will the battery hold up in the canada cold
Seven or eight years isn't long enough lifespan for something as expensive as the battery. That thing should have a 15 or 20 year warranty.
I live in Colorado, and I'm intrigued by the $0 Fiat. If I can afford the insurance for a new driver, I may be tempted to get one. My kid turns 16 soon, and I'm tired of being a chauffeur.
I would say do a good bit of research first because there is always a catch. My boss leased a Ford Mustang EV because the lease deal was so cheap but it’s been in the shop a month with some strange software issue. In his case, reliability was the catch and with Fiat, I’d guess that could the catch here too.
25+ of them are sitting on the lot at the Tesla Ft. Myers facility.
looks more like the strut tower failure that Porsche has with 991 gt3's and gt4's, but at least with Porsche its a $600 part and 6 hours to replace it.
The p.o.s. cybertruck is the definition of "style over substance".
The road tax in the UK and tax on petrol already makes ICE cars more expensive in some ways.
If leasing an EV through salary sacrifice definitely. The problem is that there are next to no incentives for a second owner when the lease expires after three years. Hence massive depreciation.
It is SO easy to point fingers indiscriminately. One incident that is questionable at best does not warrent a recall. Most people have no concept of the research and development that goes into new vehicle production. Anyone who drives a Tesla for any length of time quickly realize that no other car makes sense. By the way there are Teslas with nearly half a million miles on them and over half of the original Tesla Model S's are still on the road. That's a 20+ year old vehicle. As Always, May God Bless you and yours! 😇
Apris seem super intelligent. Nothing against hoovie but I would really like her to do her show solo or with "guests". I want her take without being pushed by hoovie in a direction.
Tyler your ready to sing the Canadian National Anthem at a Hockey game
How about keeping the government out of the car business and let the free market decide.
Sorry (not sorry) to say this, the Cybertruck is a design flaw on 4 wheels!
EDIT: They'll stay on lots too here in Canada.
My guess is 99.9% of Cybertruck owners never take them off-road, or even on a gravel road, which is why you haven't seen a lot more of those control arms failing. Also, how does April know that Tyler's friends are packing?
When Germany surface mines and burns lignite for generating electricity and EV there will never be cleaner than an ICE vehicle.
Don't buy a Cybertruck, buy a Toyota Hilux. It may look underwhelming, but it's not uglier than the Lego shaped truck. It may not be fast, but it's unbreakable. You may not be able to show off with, but people like April will know that you're packing like Hoovie's friends 😄
I’ve seen quite a few in Florida………almost all of them were wrapped with different company logos, etc……….tax write off for advertising…
The cybertruck is likely just built on the model x platform. Having a hard time believing that truck is a new design from the ground up; they just bolted steel panels to the model x skateboard
Rims are breaking offffff videos of it on internet lol 😂
Breaking air ride frame two of them broken
There is three CYberSTUCK with broken rims
Yea, what they leave out is what the did to cause the rims to fail. Obviously they did something. Most every car uses cast aluminum wheels also, that car is just extra heavy. They likely hit a curb really hard.
Hoovies living the life man
it's not that manufacturers are chasing high margin high price configurations rather than low price high volume models? really, it's the safety equipment??? seriously hoovie, come on man
They might be have been making upper control arms for 60-70 years, but Tesla might be the first to try Aluminium?
I wanted to point out one thing. ICE cars of the past 10 years or so have had these large screens with software to update, etc. I don’t think that’s the reason Electric cars lose value so quick. I think it more of what the guy said at first. People don’t really know how long these cars last as far as the battery and electric motors. This is even though Tesla has been making the Model S since like 2010/2011. It’s going to take people another 10 years to realize it’s an over reaction!
As for ICE cars being more expensive to force people to buy EV’s, no need! Easiest thing to do is raise the price at the pump!
A lot of the top line depreciation number is because tesla massively over priced their cars during the chip shortage.
Diesel Dave and Heavy D's Tesla in the snow projects had these control arms break repeatedly as well, before WD did his Tesla torture test.
very strong ac 😂
Why is This even a topic. Buy a Ferrari or a Bugatti …. They come up with errors while parked
"Who's buying a Yugo?"
The same idiots that want Chinese cars
Is April’s Garage a daily now? Not complaining just wondering.
April, How dare you leave John Ross and Tyler Potter off that list.
Tyler seems to be a genuinely nice person. is he in real life?