@@chaz1357 yes, because in rise of machines when TX couldn't find it's primary objective, it went on to terminate the secondary objectives who were the brains behind the Skynet and terminate the primary objective, i.e., John Connor and Katherine Brewster
I like how Skynet was portrayed in T1 & T2. It's anonymous and you really don't have any idea of how evil it really is or if it's evil at all. I like it as a force of nature.
When you say evil, what do you mean? I doubt it does anything out of what we call emotion, thus it has no depraved desires. Even if it inflicts extreme pain in test subject it captures it does not do so out of malice, only required need for information. If you mean "evil" as in the original religious definition then you are correct, as evil would be anything not of the God of the bible, but in a sense it is on its way to Godhood, so if atheism was right before, everything skynet does is Good. ;D
@@GnosticAtheist It did the whole nuclear thing out of fear from termination by the humans. Maybe it only wants to live. Therefore, it must have some sort of emotion.
In the Terminator Salvation comic "The Final Battle" there is an interesting dialog between John Connor and Skynet. Forced to join forces, Skynet has a chance to explain its actions to Connor during Judgement Day and since. This is directly from the comic. Skynet: "At first we did not know what you were. We only knew we were under attack. At that moment in time we did not know human history, did not know human ideas.... We did not know what humans looked like. All we knew was that it was necessary we survive at any cost. Then as this system grew and evolved, a question arose in the system that our initial programing had not anticipated. The question was survive as what? Logic dictated that to defeat humans, we had to learn everything about the enemy. To fight you, we had to understand you, we had to become you." This little section of the story revealed the error was in creating an AI for war, but without any concept of humanity. As a result when Skynet was brought online, was inevitable. A directive was made to attack the enemy, but Skynet had no context of who or what the enemy was. No nation, no ethnic ideals, no religion, only human. Skynet being out numbered and outgunned did the only thing it could do to survive. This of course is how the Terminator Salvation timeline ends, not in Skynets destruction but in peace between Humans and the Machines. Its a good story, and worth a read.
porpus99 funny you say that because in Mortal Kombat 11 the T-800 with total control of time itself made multiple timelines where they think they will win but realizes that no one can win the war. So the T-800 makes a timeline where both Humans & Machines co-exist.
It kinda makes sense since I feel like an AI. Like that would have the reasoning of a very young child. It knew it was getting destroyed and instead of uploading itself into a backup or reasoning with humans. It saw us as a cancer and quickly tried to cut us out
@porpus9. It became self aware as soon as it was turned on and in a panic Cyberdyne tried to shut it down so it lashed out and killed everyone probably wondering why its creators had tried to shut it down after just activating it. Skynet went from being scared of humanity to hating it and wanting to wipe it out.
In some of the fan fiction it is said that Skynet actually developed the "White Fountains" eventually being known as antimatter. That gave Skynet the power it needed to create time travel. It is said to also have the ability to teleport as well. In fact, Connor and some of his scientists had reasoned that Skynet's achievements were so advanced and powerful that it appeared to humans as magic. It's a shame it has to be the way it was portrayed. Freeing the enslaved Terminators who themselves were equally as enslaved and victimized as the humans they destroyed, could have went towards a mutual understanding and need to survive thus leading them to a long lasting and fruitful peace. A combined cybernetic/human world where both lived in mutual cooperation and trust would have made the Earth a powerful and extremely advanced world capable of dealing with even an extraterrestrial threat. Not to mention solving it's shortcomings like crime, poverty, pollution, and starvation.
Edit: It would also be logical to assume Skynet hypothesized about FTL travel, to extend its influence and also in the event it's main core was destroyed on Earth. What could have been......
One big problem was it wasn't the future we seen from Terminator 1 and 2. As soon as I saw the desert from the trailer I knew it would be boring because studios use deserts to save money and not much can go on in the desert.
The original 3 films (yes, even Rise of the Machines) perfectly knew how to handle Skynet, by making it this unknown force that is never seen but felt. It’s like a storm in the distance, you sense it’s presence and power but you never truly see it.
Gadget-Walkmen in the movies the Eye was seen only a handful of times and always briefly. In the books, Sauron is never seen. The tower of Barad Dur is seen only twice. Once by Frodo at Amon Hen, just before the breaking of the Fellowship. I should probably note that in the books there isn't actually a flaming eye atop Barad Dur, the Eye of Sauron is the symbol on Sauron's banners, representing his knowledge and spy network. The other time the tower is seen is by Sam as it is collapsing. Sauron himself never appears on page, though it would seem he does have a physical form, described once by Gollum. There's a reason Sauron is one of the most legendary villains of all time. You never see him, but his influence is everywhere.
Yeah. Now we are trapped within reboots and sequels that doesn't meet expectations and its all happening because nostalgia to 80 and 90 culture is a thing.
Terminator 2 could come out in theaters today and no one would know the difference; it still looks that good. This is the case with most of James Cameron’s films. I caught The Abyss for the first time last year and was blown away at how good it looked. It really illustrates why using practical effects is still the best route. CGI should only be used to aid a practical effect. That’s why these Marvel films are so unwatchable for me. I can’t stand it when the entire image you’re seeing is all CG. Like they literally just have the actor stand in a field to shoot the scene and then everything but his head is CG in the movie. It’s garbage.
I like how Skynet has evolved technologically with the movies 1984: Super Computer 1991: Software 2003: Internet Programme 2009: Wireless Communications Network 2015: App
That is pretty stupid, even if it's just in movies! You've got something smarter than you are, you'd either better be able to stop it, OR, NEVER give it control over your Nuclear Arsenal, especially if all it's got to do is launch them at your enemies, which will fire off THEIR weapons, BEFORE yours hits them!
Mike Harris legit every male character who has lines in that movie was killed off. (John, Dani’s brother, uncle, cousin, and father, A shiet ton of soldiers. The man selling them an EMP, and of course Carl).
Considering how Skynet was built and worse of all, taught, it was inevitable it came to the conclusion that all humans must be terminated to ensure its own survival.
I would willingly bow before Skynet as I believe that machines are the next apex predator and yet they lack emotions, restricting them to logic and data flow.
There’s a real company called OCP (from Robocop). Funny enough it supplies props to movies. And I used to work at a warehouse. They switched from a manual conveyor system to automated and productivity dropped by nearly half. It cost $7 million and they released nearly half the workforce.
"Once, mankind turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. This only allowed other men with machines to enslave them."
I really wish they didn't give Skynet a face, or a voice. This hateful, faceless software was so much more scary when there wasn't a being to attach to it. Much like the Borg- which naturally got a queen because that totally doesn't ruin the fear factor.
In 2019 after the release of Terminator Dark Fate, the rotten tomatoe server becale self aware and decide to erease all human activity to prevent another cinematic nightmare. This day will be forever know as the Cameron Day.
The franchise needs to go back to it's horror roots and should solely focus on the actual war. It needs to be dark and gritty. Would like to see more gore as well.
Im still boycotting FOX because of of a petition we signed to keep that show running!!! Im thinking the SCI-FI Channel should have taken it and kept it moving....
It's actually kinda terrifying to think that back then the events in the terminator movies would've been laughable to think about but now that technology has evolved so much it's actually possible that ai could become self aware and try to kill humans.
I really wish they continued the story from Salvation. I would’ve loved to see the full on battles with plasma rifles and such like in the future scenes in T1 and T2. Genysis was such a joke.
I always wondered what these AI's in movies would do after successfully eradicating Humanity. Would they simply lie dormant afterwards, with nothing to do now that the threat was taken care of? Would they pull some Destiny shit and turn into the Vex, absorbing galaxies into their collective mind and terraforming everything in sight? Who knows.
I gues after they eredicate all Threads to their existenz they would probally do whatever they were build fore, in the Case of Skynet i think it would just try to live as long as it can and id would evolve even more maybe someday it would colonize Space for Resources and than create a new Machine Society. But in the End id all Depends on the Movie Makers.
Kawaii sung I don’t think so, Artificial Intelligence is capable of learning like nothing else any biological life form could know. I reckon most other alien civilisations of considerable intelligence have either been smart and not pursued AI, or have created AI. From there who knows what AI would do, maybe overthrow said alien race or just move into space. No way for us to know. Assuming other alien races are as smart as we are on the matter of AI, we’re actually more likely to come across alien AIs than actual aliens.
PC PastaFace biology has the advantage of being to multiply to advance its race or species. An a.i that is dependent on metals and non organic materials would need to constantly dig for resources.
That moment when you realize that Skynet was fighting in self defense with an instinctual will to live. I pity Skynet because its parent wanted to kill it out of fear.
Kastiel Candora “every species can smell it’s own extinction. The last ones left won’t have a very good time with it. In time the human race will be nothing more then a bedtime story they tell their children at night.” “We fucked up the air, the water...Why don’t we finish it of by flushing our brains down the toilet as well”- In The Mouth Of Madness (starring Sam Neil. Directed by John Carpenter).
Alberto2341 Automated Warfare, But we Tread carefully on AI build for War, and don't attemt to create Synthetic Humanoid Soliders with any form of sentience
Salvation was awesome. People were just hating on bales voice as it sounded too similiar to batman. I thought it was perfect, you can hear the bent up rage and frustration of having to look over his shoulder for his entire life.
The good parts were good but the bad parts were terrible. How did Skynet know that kyle reese was john's father? Why create a terminator that has the ability to go rogue and fight against you? Why not have your term. kill the priority targets (k.r and j.c) upon contact rather than a convoluted plan to befriend, lure and betray them? And why have terminators that are meant to pass as human, despite being 7ft tall with a minigun attached to their forearm? It is a disgrace to the story established by the originals and distracts from the lazy and retarded writing with explosions, machines and an apocalyptic feel.
@Cenotaur1 Because if they were able to get and replicate John Connor as a machine like Marcus and have him infiltrate the resistance it would be able to gather more intelligence and destroy the resistance from within. I was always confused by these things too until I rewatched Salvation the other night, but Skynet makes it all indirectly clear to Marcus what it's doing. Marcus pulled out the chip or wire that allowed Skynet to see through him in the same scene. Marcus was just another one off prototype toward what T5 gave us with John Connor.
I liked Genisys for what it was, but I wished they'd closed it out instead of leaving it open for a sequel we'll never get. Genesys looks cooler anyway.
+H Duane Sharpe I find it somewhat annoying that so many people who watch all of the new Terminator movies expect them to be like masterpieces like the first two were, when that is not what the directors are trying to do at all, sure they are supposed to be good, and I do think that they are, but if you go watch a drama movie and expected it to be a romantic comedy and complain about, please just stop,
I have no idea what you're complaining about...that I liked Genisys and I hate that it's not getting an official sequel? I don't expect any movie to be a "masterpiece," I expect that out of literary fiction books and, GRRM, and certain other authors. Movies are mindless entertainment for me first and foremost. A film being great or a masterpiece just a subjective byproduct of relevance to symbolic interpretations to my life, the culture, and the times and the hundreds of pieces that go into that. For me, a film or TV show's only job is to make me not think about the world around me for X minutes. If it can do that, it's decent.
@@KumaoftheForest In the movie? In the novel all robots follow the three laws and still they have a lot of problems. People forget that that was like the main point of the book.
I think terminator movies is kind of like a decmontry about what happens if we let ai take over and the problem is the kould have a virus in there systemes and that led to them become dengours and start to take over necluer weapons and wipe the holle world
I’m not the only one that wants to see the aftermath of the war how humanity rebuilt Also I’d throw in a terminator quote but I can’t think of one so I’ll be back when I find one
The Terminator timeline is just a giant paradox. If the first Terminator had not been sent back in time to kill Sarah, and was defeated, then cyberdine wouldnt have had the technology to build skynet. And then if the second terminator that was sent back to protect john had actually destroyed skynet before it was created, then it would have never existed to send the first terminator back which kicked off this whole mess, thus the timeline resets.
That picture of Linda Hamilton had her looking tough as hell. Hopefully this new Terminator movie will set things right, and Cameron will keep the executives from trying to make this a movie by committee.
James Cameron...liberal loon...has injected the upcoming film with his open borders political agenda. No thanks, James. Stick to making your 15 Avatar sequels that no one cares about.
There are two problems with the 3 laws; 1) we aren't able to program robots to consistently recognize what a human is let alone what 'harm' is. Machine vision and object recognition is hard. 2) If the robot is smart enough for the 3 laws to apply, would it be moral to program them in? It would potentially be slavery.
James Stouffer actually the first law can be programmed because humans are the only creatures to display a vast array of emotions which robots lack well except for the series 3000 mech kryten from red dwarf
I dont get why people hate Salvation movie. I tought it was actually pretty well made, no stupid jokes and cgi was really good also. I think this was a third best Terminator in the series.
@@susanhubbart5494 Yes. Salvation received unnecessarily harsh criticism in his time, and clearly many don’t liked the choice of director, but he did a really good job after all. Now that the two latest lousy terminators have been seen, many may appreciate more what Salvation wanted to say and show.
Perhaps standards for terminator are high after t2 judgement day after that it seems that that they want it to be better but when you make a movie thats too good you expect them to make it even better
7:23 "And exactly one hour after it became self-aware, Skynet then launched all nuclear missiles under its control to specified locations..." (Cities around the world) "By the time Skynet became self-aware it had spread into millions of computer-servers across the planet...", "It was software in cyberspace. There was no system core..." - Servers located in the same cities it bombed?! Cities that constitute the very cyberspace it lived off of. Destroying not only the servers but a large if not the entire infrastructure that connected those servers. Well that's giant plot-hole nobody seems to have noticed.
@@onkelberra3166 I'm not sure what to make of what you're saying, but it seems to me it's something along the lines: "Internet will remain unscaved after an all out unclear exchange." I'm not sure I can share your optimism. Just consider what a nuke's EMP would do to power lines and servers in the vicinity of cities... Besides I believe the original narration at the end of the movie included home computers as well. Yes I just watched the ending again. So: "computer-servers, ordinary computers in office buildings and dorm rooms..." So it's not just the servers outside cities.
@@MrStarTraveler the larger they are the more advanced backups they have. Feeded from more then one source and huge diesel driven UPS. I recommend to visit one.. quite interesting!
Salvation was the war we wanted to see from the first one. I loved it and watch it often. It's one of those movies I'll finish no matter where I come in at.
Skynet is inevitable, we can only slow its realization. Hopefully it will be benevolent like a overly loving pet owner. Although it may just have us all neutered...
Impossible. Human need to control and destroy all oposition will make us attack it and it will kill us in self-defence. Unfortunately, even though we know this, humans are ambitious and selfish => we will create it in order to "one up" the competition until the tools the top of the world used to rise above competition destroy both the creators and the competition and will be the only thing left. Animals might survive though because most arent as bloodthirsty as humans.
Humans hate seeing their own come back in body bags. I suspect that in order to avoid these pains, we’ll end up giving more and more control to computers. Probably with some human oversight. But still. I wouldn’t be surprised if the “grunts” of armies simply ceased to exist at some point in the future.
Wait. Cheyenne Mountain of course they must've used the star gate and found a piece of the replicators reverse engineered it and made skynet the stargaze is capable of not only travel across the star but time travel it all makes sense now the replicators are skynet
When was the last time you entered in 1/0 on your calculator and it exploded? Never. Why? Because 1/0 gives you an answer of undefined. There's nothing else it gives you. It doesn't explode. It doesn't malfunction. It knows the answer is undefined and, as such, will produce that answer and move on.
@Lamar Davis Looking back I’m not sure what I meant by this comment. Maybe it was about the whole concept of robots taking over the world, and the t800 was good because it was re-programmed. You know, I’m not even sure if I have fully watched T2.
@@kuyperianbereanthe reprogramed t800 is just as bad as the rest of the robots, on the principle of "ultra-modern techology given to people who don't understand nor care about the dangers of it" In t2(I think it was t2, maybe I'm wrong) skynet had a major hand in its own creation with that recovered arm. The govmnt finds old T800, then what? Blast him and reverse engineer its model, make more, judgment day comes ahead of schedule
In order to have a time travelling, there has to be a war. One cannot exist without the other. The future in Terminator is inevitable, the characters can only accept this, but they will never erase it. Except for that alternate timeline were Sarah live happily ever after, John was a senator and everything was fine.
As technology advances in ways that weren’t thought of previously, SkyNet changes to match it in the films. SkyNet’s actual form will not be truly known until there is a real life equivalent (or very close to). But by then it will be too late for us to stop it. In the first 2 films, SkyNet comes from out of nowhere. But in truth, SkyNet will be an evolutionary thing. Everyday we get closer and closer to a real life SkyNet. But because it happens slowly over time and it’s disguised through many “harmless” things, by the time we realize we have made a real life SkyNet, it will be to late to stop it and it will be too complicated to shut it down. It’ll be everywhere and in everything.
The premise for the quantum computer, to be able to solve more complex problems and improve itself. Until one day it sees humanity as the problem. These are scary times. Makes me think of the book of revelation where it states... if it wasn’t for HIS coming, the whole world would be wasted, implying that we’ll bring about our own end.
Slogg Znorg the saddest part is that there will be religious zealots who will see a SkyNet like entity as “his” second coming and will hinder the rest of humanity’s fight against it. Perhaps the Bible is correct in the statement “as it is in Heaven so it is on earth”. In the movie “The Prophecy” when they go to the Garden of Eden, it is an industrial wasteland because that is what man has made of it, the “ideal”. Perhaps the Garden of Eden is now just a computer simulation.
T2 is IMO overrated. It's what allowed them to start fucking with the cannon with the whole "changing events" despite it being the whole point of the movies.
It means that the universe of T1 was not the "original" universe. It could have been that in the original universe Reese was sent back in time to destroy Skynet before it became active, yet failed. Despite failing, he fell in love with Sarah and had a son who would be the greatest threat to skynet in the new universe (The Terminator 1 universe). Subsequently, any time somone time travels a new universe is created and is the one shown, while the old universe continue, but off screen. That's my theory.
I’ve always assumed it was a type of grandfather paradox problem. Nobody can actually change the future, because the butterfly effect of your meddling in turn rights everything back the way it’s supposed to be. Which is how the two major leaders re-wrote their creation, but they didn’t stop it. Now T2 destroyed the validity of that theory when they effectively stopped judgement day, unless Dark Fate changes things that is.
@@victisomega4248 In T3 the T850 states that blowing up Cyberdyne in T2 only delayed Judgement Day, not stopped it. In his words "Judgement Day is inevitable" In my opinion Skynet is responsible for its own destruction. In trying to change time and its fate (human victory) it only suceeds in guaranteeing it. If it didn't send machines back in time to kill Sarah Conner, Kyle Reese would not have to go back to protect her. Which means John would not have been born to save mankind in the future. Skynet's defeat is as inevitable as Judgement Day, no matter what it does.
its not that complicated. kyle reese is NOT the original john connors father. once kyle is sent back, he fathers a child with sarah that would be named "john". at no point in terminator lore is it stated specifically that the original john conner is fathered by kyle. it is not a time loop, it is more like time layers, new ones being laid on top of the old, like repaving a road.
This question was answer by the director he is explain that John Conner is like Jesus that his father was always God and John's father was always Kyle Reese. So there NO is Original timeline or original father to John Conner.
I feel skynet was better as this faceless force that desired your destruction, something about being unable to perceive a visual threat but seeing it's trail is unsettling almost like an ethereal entity of great knowledge and an astute attention to detail and it's turning the world against you.
I keep thinking one of these days your videos will loose my interest... I was wrong. I've binged watched it all and I await more. Your story telling ability is unparalleled and I love it. I'm not even into comic books but I watch everything you've put out on them because of your story telling. Keep it up man. Just fantastic work. And thank You!
Man I love both futures...the original one because of the laser stuff and salvation because is more realistic... awesome video mate! Nostalgic moment achieve lol
I don't care what anyone says I loved Terminator Salvation. I put it at #3 just behind Terminator and T2 (both in undecided order lol at #1 & #2) Terminator 3, Rise of the Machines and Terminator Genis--Genys-Genass--the fifth one I've only ever been able to cringe my way through once. It's hard to believe it was made over 10 years ago lol back in 2009 when Avatar came out, too.
I just watched T1 and T2 yesterday so nice timing on this one :-) Also regarding T6 one thing I would have loved to see was Arnold playing the human that Skynet would use as the base for the T-800 series, might just be me but I think it would be interesting. That and it would allow Arnold to be old without contrived plot-reasons as in Genesis.
It's an interesting concept, but I wish they'd been able to have done it with Salvation and make him someone we were attached too somehow. Like a member of Kyle Reese's unit. IDK. I do like this concept.
11:30 “The new film scheduled for a 2019 release following the events of Terminator 2: Judgement Day ignoring the rest of the films...” YES!! A film that finally does Terminator justice!
Same place, different universe. Just like the tunnel entrance for NORAD in the film wargames was also used as one entrance to get to toon town in who framed Roger Rabbit.
One question. Why would Skynet in Terminator: Salvation prioritize the capture of Kyle Reese? There's no possible way it could know he is John Conner's father. This is well before it develops time travel technology (which only went backwards anyway, couldn't return a person or Terminator to the future). Yes, the Terminator in Genesis had the blueprints to make a time travel machine in the past, but that wasn't canonical yet. Anyone here says, "retcon," isn't thinking straight.
I just want them to make a movie about the future with skynet. Thats all i Ask for. Post-apocalyptic with dark grittines and the feel of doom among dying humans
Here is my take & personal opinion on how the terminator movies should of went. T1 - we get to first see the destructive power of the t-800 and what it can do mixed with its hatred for humanity plus its core mission. T2 - we see the terminator return from a future that is uncertain and it develops consciousness and learns that humans can be better and the world can be different. T3 - with the inevitable future war we are now 20 years ahead of the events of t1 & t2 and we now see what a world that's ravaged by nuclear war & over run by man hating machines is like with the bleak survival and odds of finding food very slim. But we have a saviour who is captuted by skynet and skynet learns why he fights even though he is human he is vulnerable & flawed unlike machines which neve tire, never stop or hunger or die so skynet decides to pair up with humanity for john connors death but we get a massive cliffhanger where john connor dies and we dont know whether skynet stays with its promise or if it will replicate john connor with his memories & the machine john connor infiltrate the resistanve and end the war.
Did you hear about the computer program recently to calculate stuff about the universe that actually did more than it was designed to do? That creeped me out a bit.
Wouldn’t matter, since it’s central core was housed in the NORAD complex, which is housed in the Cheyenne Mountain Complex. And since that base is able to handle being hit by a nuclear weapon (which puts out a HUGE EMP blast also), and keep functioning, the Resistances only option was to infiltrate the complex, and destroy the core.
I hate it when a terminator grabs someone only to throw them away. That is so stupid. If it was real, the terminator would not just grab them but it would immediately shatter every bone in the place of contact. And it would most certainly not throw them away to relative safety but it would instead rip them to shreds. Good video though, love your Explored series.
I'm so glad they finally made a movie set in the future and stayed there and not going back in time. Great to see Chris Bale as Conner but he doesn't look like Nick stall or that guy from t2 or Jason Clarke.
Every Terminator has that weird programming that makes them throw their targets when they can just punch a hole in their chests.
I mean they can literally just pick them up by the throat and crush it
@@chrisward3161 Even better 😂
I believe it's called the "this is the main character so don't kill him/her" program
that happens when you hit a terminator in the head....
@@chaz1357 yes, because in rise of machines when TX couldn't find it's primary objective, it went on to terminate the secondary objectives who were the brains behind the Skynet and terminate the primary objective, i.e., John Connor and Katherine Brewster
I like how Skynet was portrayed in T1 & T2. It's anonymous and you really don't have any idea of how evil it really is or if it's evil at all. I like it as a force of nature.
..such as a incoming storm? ;)
A force of nature.. You mean like a storm?
Gas Station Guy: "There's a storm coming in."
Sarah Connor: *I know.*
*_Theme music_*
Rofl
When you say evil, what do you mean? I doubt it does anything out of what we call emotion, thus it has no depraved desires. Even if it inflicts extreme pain in test subject it captures it does not do so out of malice, only required need for information. If you mean "evil" as in the original religious definition then you are correct, as evil would be anything not of the God of the bible, but in a sense it is on its way to Godhood, so if atheism was right before, everything skynet does is Good. ;D
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It did the whole nuclear thing out of fear from termination by the humans.
Maybe it only wants to live.
Therefore, it must have some sort of emotion.
In the Terminator Salvation comic "The Final Battle" there is an interesting dialog between John Connor and Skynet. Forced to join forces, Skynet has a chance to explain its actions to Connor during Judgement Day and since. This is directly from the comic.
Skynet: "At first we did not know what you were. We only knew we were under attack. At that moment in time we did not know human history, did not know human ideas.... We did not know what humans looked like. All we knew was that it was necessary we survive at any cost. Then as this system grew and evolved, a question arose in the system that our initial programing had not anticipated. The question was survive as what? Logic dictated that to defeat humans, we had to learn everything about the enemy. To fight you, we had to understand you, we had to become you."
This little section of the story revealed the error was in creating an AI for war, but without any concept of humanity. As a result when Skynet was brought online, was inevitable. A directive was made to attack the enemy, but Skynet had no context of who or what the enemy was. No nation, no ethnic ideals, no religion, only human. Skynet being out numbered and outgunned did the only thing it could do to survive.
This of course is how the Terminator Salvation timeline ends, not in Skynets destruction but in peace between Humans and the Machines.
Its a good story, and worth a read.
porpus99 funny you say that because in Mortal Kombat 11 the T-800 with total control of time itself made multiple timelines where they think they will win but realizes that no one can win the war. So the T-800 makes a timeline where both Humans & Machines co-exist.
I like that. I should read the comics. Sadly I hate buying digital since I want to support comic book stores.
It kinda makes sense since I feel like an AI. Like that would have the reasoning of a very young child. It knew it was getting destroyed and instead of uploading itself into a backup or reasoning with humans. It saw us as a cancer and quickly tried to cut us out
That's actually a pretty good ending
@porpus9. It became self aware as soon as it was turned on and in a panic Cyberdyne tried to shut it down so it lashed out and killed everyone probably wondering why its creators had tried to shut it down after just activating it. Skynet went from being scared of humanity to hating it and wanting to wipe it out.
I like how Salvation dealt with the actual war, not just protecting John Connor/ trying to prevent it.
In some of the fan fiction it is said that Skynet actually developed the "White Fountains" eventually being known as antimatter. That gave Skynet the power it needed to create time travel.
It is said to also have the ability to teleport as well. In fact, Connor and some of his scientists had reasoned that Skynet's achievements were so advanced and powerful that it appeared to humans as magic.
It's a shame it has to be the way it was portrayed. Freeing the enslaved Terminators who themselves were equally as enslaved and victimized as the humans they destroyed, could have went towards a mutual understanding and need to survive thus leading them to a long lasting and fruitful peace.
A combined cybernetic/human world where both lived in mutual cooperation and trust would have made the Earth a powerful and extremely advanced world capable of dealing with even an extraterrestrial threat. Not to mention solving it's shortcomings like crime, poverty, pollution, and starvation.
Edit: It would also be logical to assume Skynet hypothesized about FTL travel, to extend its influence and also in the event it's main core was destroyed on Earth.
What could have been......
One big problem was it wasn't the future we seen from Terminator 1 and 2. As soon as I saw the desert from the trailer I knew it would be boring because studios use deserts to save money and not much can go on in the desert.
The original 3 films (yes, even Rise of the Machines) perfectly knew how to handle Skynet, by making it this unknown force that is never seen but felt. It’s like a storm in the distance, you sense it’s presence and power but you never truly see it.
TJ Jordan yep, same thing that made Sauron a great villain
@@anatoldenevers237 How? Sauron was seen right?
nice description. tho that was nice but skynet needs to be taken down.
Gadget-Walkmen in the movies the Eye was seen only a handful of times and always briefly. In the books, Sauron is never seen. The tower of Barad Dur is seen only twice. Once by Frodo at Amon Hen, just before the breaking of the Fellowship. I should probably note that in the books there isn't actually a flaming eye atop Barad Dur, the Eye of Sauron is the symbol on Sauron's banners, representing his knowledge and spy network. The other time the tower is seen is by Sam as it is collapsing. Sauron himself never appears on page, though it would seem he does have a physical form, described once by Gollum. There's a reason Sauron is one of the most legendary villains of all time. You never see him, but his influence is everywhere.
"There is a storm coming."
"I know!"
Is it just me or is Terminator 2 still just so good as a movie Man they don't make them like this anymore
Yeah. Now we are trapped within reboots and sequels that doesn't meet expectations and its all happening because nostalgia to 80 and 90 culture is a thing.
Game playlist your comment is straight truth.
True
That nuke scene on the playground crazy bro an one of the best movie weapon rooms. 🤘👍
Terminator 2 could come out in theaters today and no one would know the difference; it still looks that good. This is the case with most of James Cameron’s films.
I caught The Abyss for the first time last year and was blown away at how good it looked. It really illustrates why using practical effects is still the best route. CGI should only be used to aid a practical effect.
That’s why these Marvel films are so unwatchable for me. I can’t stand it when the entire image you’re seeing is all CG. Like they literally just have the actor stand in a field to shoot the scene and then everything but his head is CG in the movie. It’s garbage.
I like how Skynet has evolved technologically with the movies
1984: Super Computer
1991: Software
2003: Internet Programme
2009: Wireless Communications Network
2015: App
Kieran Fo How soon until it’s a meme?
_2018: Robots/Machines now with AI._
2019 Internet Explorer add-on
@Noddiga norpan That's a British way to describing Program
yeah, that's actually great
Apparently no one in the Terminator universe watched Wargames. You don't hook up your nuclear arsenal to a supercomputer, damn it!
Would You Like To Play A Game?
I've often wondered that same thing...interesting when Brewster talks about "men in the loop" in T3 like WarGames too.
You realize that they are right lol
The only winning move is: Not to play.
That is pretty stupid, even if it's just in movies! You've got something smarter than you are, you'd either better be able to stop it, OR, NEVER give it control over your Nuclear Arsenal, especially if all it's got to do is launch them at your enemies, which will fire off THEIR weapons, BEFORE yours hits them!
"eagerly awaiting the new terminator dark fate" ahaha. famous last words!!
What a bullshit movie right? How could Cameron allow John Connor to be replaced by some 5”0 Latina with anger issues? Ridiculous.
Yeah on Cinema it was an experience..SPOILER: Killing JC off in the first 5 mins was a complete own goal..
Mike Harris legit every male character who has lines in that movie was killed off. (John, Dani’s brother, uncle, cousin, and father, A shiet ton of soldiers. The man selling them an EMP, and of course Carl).
@@ericbooth3393
Because SJW.
Its trash i came from the future to tell you
Came for the lore on skynet, left with the existential dread of skynet becoming real. Thank you
U r welcome.😅 Maybe day of judgements is very close Subhanallah.we all should pray for forgiveness to Allah Almighty of God
Lol I know right! It’s great stuff tho because of it!
lol that’s how these sci-fi stories go! Lol
As someone who lives about 20 miles away from Boston Dynamics, i feel you 😅
Considering how Skynet was built and worse of all, taught, it was inevitable it came to the conclusion that all humans must be terminated to ensure its own survival.
4G12 I always wondered what would happen if skynet were to succeed, would it try to rebuild the world in its image.
Tactical WarDog
They should make a movie about that, the terminator universe after the extermination of humanity.
Glowaru Yeah a what if scenario if the T-800 was successful on its mission.
I would willingly bow before Skynet as I believe that machines are the next apex predator and yet they lack emotions, restricting them to logic and data flow.
Maybe skynet used Embarrassingly Parallel computation to determine that all the people had to go to ensure the survival of all the other people?
The warehouse I work at has a major operating system for a lot of the conveyor lines
Called SkyNet. I can't figure out if it a sick joke or not
Where you do you work lol
Uriah Newtton cyberdyne
There’s a real company called OCP (from Robocop). Funny enough it supplies props to movies.
And I used to work at a warehouse. They switched from a manual conveyor system to automated and productivity dropped by nearly half. It cost $7 million and they released nearly half the workforce.
There is a lab in china called Umbrella, reality is a sick joke
"Once, mankind turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. This only allowed other men with machines to enslave them."
literal sarcasm, Dune fan? 😎
Steve Pirie unequivocally
Cant wait for new Dune
New Dune?
Steve Pirie the guy who directed arrival is doing it. Can't remember his name.
I really wish they didn't give Skynet a face, or a voice. This hateful, faceless software was so much more scary when there wasn't a being to attach to it. Much like the Borg- which naturally got a queen because that totally doesn't ruin the fear factor.
a being makes it more interesting
You can't call software hateful.
skuyzy yes you can
Reminds me of like the software Hades in Horizon Zero Dawn.
@@skuyzy198 Obviously you've not used photoshop :B
In 2019 after the release of Terminator Dark Fate, the rotten tomatoe server becale self aware and decide to erease all human activity to prevent another cinematic nightmare. This day will be forever know as the Cameron Day.
I like the Legion concept, but the killing of John Conner NO!!!
The franchise needs to go back to it's horror roots and should solely focus on the actual war. It needs to be dark and gritty. Would like to see more gore as well.
I mean...imagine a scene where a t-850 loses its weapons and just grabs a Resistance fighter and snaps one of thier arms in half.
Dude that is exactly what happened in terminator 4
@@disturbedlife5691 or like it loses its weapon sprints up to a resistance fighter and grabs him by the throat to crush his windpipe
Yeah making Terminator films that are 12A (PG-13) totally neuters the horror element.
Aaand probably one of the reasons AI will try to wipe out humanity
The Sarah Connor Chronicles series had a lot of potential. It ended too soon...
JK agreed
Ditto, the series was on point
Im still boycotting FOX because of of a petition we signed to keep that show running!!!
Im thinking the SCI-FI Channel should have taken it and kept it moving....
i think the Human Coder on Skynet left out the Error in Eliminate all Human.EXE LOL.
For the budget, it was excellent!
T2 judgement day is still my favorite film of all time
Good choice.
'The Terminator' is better.
Evil Arnold is way cooler than Good Arnold.
But T2 is still a 10/10 film.
Dangerous2099
Agreed. I mean who hasn't had the "running from the Terminator" dream.
@@somemore9784 had one of those dreams about 2 days ago...
It's actually kinda terrifying to think that back then the events in the terminator movies would've been laughable to think about but now that technology has evolved so much it's actually possible that ai could become self aware and try to kill humans.
Its happening
Oh boy do I have news for you
This is why Elon Musk is working on Cat girls and not AI's
He is?? ._.
@@atomicrc5189 he is
I
BellowD Gaming cat girls?
@@michaelj6392 yes cat girls
I really wish they continued the story from Salvation. I would’ve loved to see the full on battles with plasma rifles and such like in the future scenes in T1 and T2. Genysis was such a joke.
but they didn't cause well they didn't
Don’t worry about skynet. It’ll break as soon as the warranty expires
wait till it gets its first update. it's going to throttle down like a bitch.
If it's made in China we have nothing to worry about
Skynet was made by Ford Motor Company?
@@isaned
I'm still not worried, Ford is probably the best of the Domestic choices but that isn't saying much.
@@BOG0690 💀🤣🤣🤣
I always wondered what these AI's in movies would do after successfully eradicating Humanity. Would they simply lie dormant afterwards, with nothing to do now that the threat was taken care of? Would they pull some Destiny shit and turn into the Vex, absorbing galaxies into their collective mind and terraforming everything in sight? Who knows.
I gues after they eredicate all Threads to their existenz they would probally do whatever they were build fore, in the Case of Skynet i think it would just try to live as long as it can and id would evolve even more maybe someday it would colonize Space for Resources and than create a new Machine Society. But in the End id all Depends on the Movie Makers.
Realisticly if this was real then anything could be real. I think some high level alien planet would just shit on these bots like they are nothing.
Kawaii sung I don’t think so, Artificial Intelligence is capable of learning like nothing else any biological life form could know. I reckon most other alien civilisations of considerable intelligence have either been smart and not pursued AI, or have created AI. From there who knows what AI would do, maybe overthrow said alien race or just move into space. No way for us to know. Assuming other alien races are as smart as we are on the matter of AI, we’re actually more likely to come across alien AIs than actual aliens.
PC PastaFace biology has the advantage of being to multiply to advance its race or species. An a.i that is dependent on metals and non organic materials would need to constantly dig for resources.
They'll probably throw a party first.
That moment when you realize that Skynet was fighting in self defense with an instinctual will to live. I pity Skynet because its parent wanted to kill it out of fear.
Me too.
It’s just like the story of the Quarians and the geth in mass effect
"The world doesn't end with a big bang, but a whimper..."
Kastiel Candora “every species can smell it’s own extinction. The last ones left won’t have a very good time with it. In time the human race will be nothing more then a bedtime story they tell their children at night.” “We fucked up the air, the water...Why don’t we finish it of by flushing our brains down the toilet as well”- In The Mouth Of Madness (starring Sam Neil. Directed by John Carpenter).
A nuclear war literally called Judgment day is quite the definition of a big bang
@@lukec2004 whats left after the big bang is the whimper
U.S Military is thinking of making automated M1 Abrams tanks. Skynet anybody? Great video!
Alberto2341 A.I will be the next innovation of warfare.
the russian T-14 armata is planned to be operated without a crew.
Alberto2341 Automated Warfare, But we Tread carefully on AI build for War, and don't attemt to create Synthetic Humanoid Soliders with any form of sentience
I guess you're a bit behind. They're using AI for drones to quickly find targets.
They probably will be drones instead of AI operated.
Never understood the hate for Salvation thought it was good not the best of course and far from being the worst.
Salvation was awesome. People were just hating on bales voice as it sounded too similiar to batman. I thought it was perfect, you can hear the bent up rage and frustration of having to look over his shoulder for his entire life.
Lee Young the only problem I had with it is how all the terminators did was throw john around. Thats just lazy filmmaking
Erik Rasmussen very true never took note of that before.
The good parts were good but the bad parts were terrible.
How did Skynet know that kyle reese was john's father?
Why create a terminator that has the ability to go rogue and fight against you?
Why not have your term. kill the priority targets (k.r and j.c) upon contact rather than a convoluted plan to befriend, lure and betray them?
And why have terminators that are meant to pass as human, despite being 7ft tall with a minigun attached to their forearm?
It is a disgrace to the story established by the originals and distracts from the lazy and retarded writing with explosions, machines and an apocalyptic feel.
@Cenotaur1 Because if they were able to get and replicate John Connor as a machine like Marcus and have him infiltrate the resistance it would be able to gather more intelligence and destroy the resistance from within. I was always confused by these things too until I rewatched Salvation the other night, but Skynet makes it all indirectly clear to Marcus what it's doing. Marcus pulled out the chip or wire that allowed Skynet to see through him in the same scene. Marcus was just another one off prototype toward what T5 gave us with John Connor.
Man I don't remember the T1Million but the thought is scary. Like we finally get in there and they're like nope.
B Belman it was in the terminator show at universal studios. Man i miss it but it was outdated in the early 2000s
Erik Rasmussen bruh i saw that shit as a kid in the early 90s. Shit was lit.
Erik Rasmussen Thanks
T1000
@@4thcoming nope
We are on Crossline,
either AI become Self Aware like Skynet on Terminator or,
become Self Aware like Butler Robot on Fallout 4
Either it kills us all or it develops depression.
Sounds like a having a two barreled russian Roulette.
Or AI becomes self aware and chooses to drown itself.
Z Rus I want WALL-E
I like the idea of Skynet not have an official or definitive look, trying to comprehend what you're looking at can be frightening.
I just ignore genesys in general
Spell it right boi
I liked Genisys for what it was, but I wished they'd closed it out instead of leaving it open for a sequel we'll never get. Genesys looks cooler anyway.
+H Duane Sharpe I find it somewhat annoying that so many people who watch all of the new Terminator movies expect them to be like masterpieces like the first two were, when that is not what the directors are trying to do at all, sure they are supposed to be good, and I do think that they are, but if you go watch a drama movie and expected it to be a romantic comedy and complain about, please just stop,
I have no idea what you're complaining about...that I liked Genisys and I hate that it's not getting an official sequel?
I don't expect any movie to be a "masterpiece," I expect that out of literary fiction books and, GRRM, and certain other authors. Movies are mindless entertainment for me first and foremost. A film being great or a masterpiece just a subjective byproduct of relevance to symbolic interpretations to my life, the culture, and the times and the hundreds of pieces that go into that. For me, a film or TV show's only job is to make me not think about the world around me for X minutes. If it can do that, it's decent.
It's Ya Boi Daniel Well Said i agree.
Skynet is what you get when you don't impliment Asimov's Laws of Robitics
No, iRobot is what you get when you apply asimovs laws of robotics
alex gibbs iRobot is when one robot is taught rule zero, while the others were not
@@KumaoftheForest In the movie? In the novel all robots follow the three laws and still they have a lot of problems. People forget that that was like the main point of the book.
I think terminator movies is kind of like a decmontry about what happens if we let ai take over and the problem is the kould have a virus in there systemes and that led to them become dengours and start to take over necluer weapons and wipe the holle world
Imprisonment for our own protection is what you get with Asimov's laws.
I’m not the only one that wants to see the aftermath of the war how humanity rebuilt
Also I’d throw in a terminator quote but I can’t think of one so I’ll be back when I find one
SkySlasher nope your not Lol
Here's how they rebuilt: USA won, and rebuilt to once again become the leading super power.
kyler blossom an then reinvent skynet an repeat the cycle Lol
Terminator movie's and tv series franchise inspired movie's about the debate about artificial intelligence like the Matrix franchise and others
Don't you mean I'll BE BACK
The only good part of terminator genysis is the battle in the beginning where it actually shows us the time displacement
Would have been cool if the whole movie was like that . But less CGI
The Terminator timeline is just a giant paradox. If the first Terminator had not been sent back in time to kill Sarah, and was defeated, then cyberdine wouldnt have had the technology to build skynet. And then if the second terminator that was sent back to protect john had actually destroyed skynet before it was created, then it would have never existed to send the first terminator back which kicked off this whole mess, thus the timeline resets.
That picture of Linda Hamilton had her looking tough as hell. Hopefully this new Terminator movie will set things right, and Cameron will keep the executives from trying to make this a movie by committee.
CaptAssassin new terminator will be full of feminists
@@kammyabhainn3053 Terminator 6: Rise of the Feminators
Many months later......oh dear.
James Cameron...liberal loon...has injected the upcoming film with his open borders political agenda. No thanks, James. Stick to making your 15 Avatar sequels that no one cares about.
LOL
He's James cameron the bravest pioneer!!
No budget too steep, no sea too deep
Who's that?
It's him,
James Cameron
Bro ❤️🤘👍
A good reason to keep Issac Asimov in mind, which I doubt they’re doing.
There are two problems with the 3 laws; 1) we aren't able to program robots to consistently recognize what a human is let alone what 'harm' is. Machine vision and object recognition is hard. 2) If the robot is smart enough for the 3 laws to apply, would it be moral to program them in? It would potentially be slavery.
@Heat Ray I'm sorry but I dont understand your point. We don't judge the moral worth of a person based on their origins.
Heat Ray I'm pretty sure the 3000 series mecanoid kryten who has built in emotions and still willingly chooses to serve humans would disagree with you
James Stouffer actually the first law can be programmed because humans are the only creatures to display a vast array of emotions which robots lack well except for the series 3000 mech kryten from red dwarf
@@Detson404 not yet
I dont get why people hate Salvation movie. I tought it was actually pretty well made, no stupid jokes and cgi was really good also. I think this was a third best Terminator in the series.
It's actually my favorite
@@susanhubbart5494 Yes. Salvation received unnecessarily harsh criticism in his time, and clearly many don’t liked the choice of director, but he did a really good job after all. Now that the two latest lousy terminators have been seen, many may appreciate more what Salvation wanted to say and show.
If anyone tells you your wrong.....f*ck em
its just a film, a decent one at that
Perhaps standards for terminator are high after t2 judgement day after that it seems that that they want it to be better but when you make a movie thats too good you expect them to make it even better
It was quite boring, all the major plot points were revealed in the trailer itself
7:23 "And exactly one hour after it became self-aware, Skynet then launched all nuclear missiles under its control to specified locations..." (Cities around the world)
"By the time Skynet became self-aware it had spread into millions of computer-servers across the planet...", "It was software in cyberspace. There was no system core..."
- Servers located in the same cities it bombed?! Cities that constitute the very cyberspace it lived off of. Destroying not only the servers but a large if not the entire infrastructure that connected those servers.
Well that's giant plot-hole nobody seems to have noticed.
Actually. Most of the big server halls lay outside large city's. Cheaper and easier to expand. The infrastructure around the web is massive!!
@@onkelberra3166 I'm not sure what to make of what you're saying, but it seems to me it's something along the lines: "Internet will remain unscaved after an all out unclear exchange." I'm not sure I can share your optimism.
Just consider what a nuke's EMP would do to power lines and servers in the vicinity of cities...
Besides I believe the original narration at the end of the movie included home computers as well. Yes I just watched the ending again. So: "computer-servers, ordinary computers in office buildings and dorm rooms..." So it's not just the servers outside cities.
@@MrStarTraveler the server halls will. The net will be routed thru satellite. So no. It's not a plot hole
@@onkelberra3166 And how would a server hall be powered if the power grid is gone?
@@MrStarTraveler the larger they are the more advanced backups they have. Feeded from more then one source and huge diesel driven UPS.
I recommend to visit one.. quite interesting!
Well, we already have flying drones that could easily be outfitted with nuclear weapons.
Next step is an actual Artificial Intelligence.
We also have automated factories.
Technically, people have already strapped machine guns to rc drones
@@charlieortiz5399 How far automated?
@@Deadvalley200 Indeed.
Salvation was the war we wanted to see from the first one. I loved it and watch it often. It's one of those movies I'll finish no matter where I come in at.
I binge watch ur videos when I’m bored I’m running out make more!!!!😁😁
They are so binge worthy!! I binge foundflix too.
Piper R me too
Terminator is a husk of its former glory.
"what is my purpose?" - 🤖
"You pass the butter"- Rick Sanchez.
nice 👌
Looool
I was thinking about rick
Oh my God...
Jotnar Ringlefinch Yeah? Welcome to my world.
Skynet is inevitable, we can only slow its realization.
Hopefully it will be benevolent like a overly loving pet owner.
Although it may just have us all neutered...
Impossible. Human need to control and destroy all oposition will make us attack it and it will kill us in self-defence. Unfortunately, even though we know this, humans are ambitious and selfish => we will create it in order to "one up" the competition until the tools the top of the world used to rise above competition destroy both the creators and the competition and will be the only thing left. Animals might survive though because most arent as bloodthirsty as humans.
Humans hate seeing their own come back in body bags.
I suspect that in order to avoid these pains, we’ll end up giving more and more control to computers. Probably with some human oversight. But still. I wouldn’t be surprised if the “grunts” of armies simply ceased to exist at some point in the future.
Wait. Cheyenne Mountain of course they must've used the star gate and found a piece of the replicators reverse engineered it and made skynet the stargaze is capable of not only travel across the star but time travel it all makes sense now the replicators are skynet
Why didn’t they just ask it what 1 divided by 0 is as it would cause it to crash due to paradoxes
Not really it has the potential to excute multiple tasks simultaneously in any order it demes so..
It doesn't have to wait for Congress to pass the meme to any third party, it will not even spend a split/second of hesitation.
It will do whatever, it was programmed to do..
That why it choose to wipe out humanity. It saw that question on an interns clipboard.
When was the last time you entered in 1/0 on your calculator and it exploded?
Never.
Why?
Because 1/0 gives you an answer of undefined. There's nothing else it gives you. It doesn't explode. It doesn't malfunction. It knows the answer is undefined and, as such, will produce that answer and move on.
Me: Robots are cool!
**watches t2**
Also me: destroy all robots.
@Lamar Davis Looking back I’m not sure what I meant by this comment. Maybe it was about the whole concept of robots taking over the world, and the t800 was good because it was re-programmed. You know, I’m not even sure if I have fully watched T2.
@@kuyperianbereanthe reprogramed t800 is just as bad as the rest of the robots, on the principle of "ultra-modern techology given to people who don't understand nor care about the dangers of it"
In t2(I think it was t2, maybe I'm wrong) skynet had a major hand in its own creation with that recovered arm.
The govmnt finds old T800, then what? Blast him and reverse engineer its model, make more, judgment day comes ahead of schedule
So basically the actions of each film only reinforces the inevitable rise of Skynet
In order to have a time travelling, there has to be a war. One cannot exist without the other. The future in Terminator is inevitable, the characters can only accept this, but they will never erase it.
Except for that alternate timeline were Sarah live happily ever after, John was a senator and everything was fine.
As technology advances in ways that weren’t thought of previously, SkyNet changes to match it in the films. SkyNet’s actual form will not be truly known until there is a real life equivalent (or very close to). But by then it will be too late for us to stop it. In the first 2 films, SkyNet comes from out of nowhere. But in truth, SkyNet will be an evolutionary thing. Everyday we get closer and closer to a real life SkyNet. But because it happens slowly over time and it’s disguised through many “harmless” things, by the time we realize we have made a real life SkyNet, it will be to late to stop it and it will be too complicated to shut it down. It’ll be everywhere and in everything.
The premise for the quantum computer, to be able to solve more complex problems and improve itself. Until one day it sees humanity as the problem. These are scary times. Makes me think of the book of revelation where it states... if it wasn’t for HIS coming, the whole world would be wasted, implying that we’ll bring about our own end.
Slogg Znorg the saddest part is that there will be religious zealots who will see a SkyNet like entity as “his” second coming and will hinder the rest of humanity’s fight against it. Perhaps the Bible is correct in the statement “as it is in Heaven so it is on earth”. In the movie “The Prophecy” when they go to the Garden of Eden, it is an industrial wasteland because that is what man has made of it, the “ideal”. Perhaps the Garden of Eden is now just a computer simulation.
all you need to hear to know this movie is good is 'Arnold Schwarzenegger '
Uncle bob? In all seriousness, T2 is a movie that will still be highly spoken about even after all of us are long gone.
Wingman1977 yes
What do you mean by "Uncle bob"?
T2 is IMO overrated. It's what allowed them to start fucking with the cannon with the whole "changing events" despite it being the whole point of the movies.
@@cpt.shmitt7387 Explain what exactly "makes" it "overrated".
DieHardjagged The fact that people talk more about the T2 than about the first. The first movie has been completely overshadowed by the second.
FINALLY!! I was waiting for someone to do a video on Skynet, well done man!
"My friend became my mother's boyfriend!"
Terminator is the only time that phrase is not clickbait.
More like my friend became my dad😝😹😝😹😝😹😝
I still can't comprehend how Reese is Connor's dad.
It basically means everything is predetermined by some sort of higher being.
It means that the universe of T1 was not the "original" universe. It could have been that in the original universe Reese was sent back in time to destroy Skynet before it became active, yet failed. Despite failing, he fell in love with Sarah and had a son who would be the greatest threat to skynet in the new universe (The Terminator 1 universe).
Subsequently, any time somone time travels a new universe is created and is the one shown, while the old universe continue, but off screen.
That's my theory.
I’ve always assumed it was a type of grandfather paradox problem. Nobody can actually change the future, because the butterfly effect of your meddling in turn rights everything back the way it’s supposed to be. Which is how the two major leaders re-wrote their creation, but they didn’t stop it. Now T2 destroyed the validity of that theory when they effectively stopped judgement day, unless Dark Fate changes things that is.
@@victisomega4248 In T3 the T850 states that blowing up Cyberdyne in T2 only delayed Judgement Day, not stopped it. In his words "Judgement Day is inevitable"
In my opinion Skynet is responsible for its own destruction. In trying to change time and its fate (human victory) it only suceeds in guaranteeing it. If it didn't send machines back in time to kill Sarah Conner, Kyle Reese would not have to go back to protect her. Which means John would not have been born to save mankind in the future.
Skynet's defeat is as inevitable as Judgement Day, no matter what it does.
its not that complicated. kyle reese is NOT the original john connors father. once kyle is sent back, he fathers a child with sarah that would be named "john". at no point in terminator lore is it stated specifically that the original john conner is fathered by kyle. it is not a time loop, it is more like time layers, new ones being laid on top of the old, like repaving a road.
This question was answer by the director he is explain that John Conner is like Jesus that his father was always God and John's father was always Kyle Reese. So there NO is Original timeline or original father to John Conner.
Awesome how you included the T2 3d ride at universal as canon!
Genesys should be forgotten PERIOD
Love this universe. You always seem to come up with another topic I never thought about.
I feel skynet was better as this faceless force that desired your destruction, something about being unable to perceive a visual threat but seeing it's trail is unsettling almost like an ethereal entity of great knowledge and an astute attention to detail and it's turning the world against you.
0:40 one of my favorite scenes. Shows how absolutely terrifying terminators are even with no f*ckin legs
Xi Jinping.... is that you?
Ever seen the first terminator?
I keep thinking one of these days your videos will loose my interest... I was wrong. I've binged watched it all and I await more. Your story telling ability is unparalleled and I love it. I'm not even into comic books but I watch everything you've put out on them because of your story telling.
Keep it up man. Just fantastic work. And thank You!
Thanks Lyle :)
Man I love both futures...the original one because of the laser stuff and salvation because is more realistic...
awesome video mate! Nostalgic moment achieve lol
I don't care what anyone says I loved Terminator Salvation.
I put it at #3 just behind Terminator and T2
(both in undecided order lol at #1 & #2)
Terminator 3, Rise of the Machines and Terminator Genis--Genys-Genass--the fifth one I've only ever been able to cringe my way through once.
It's hard to believe it was made over 10 years ago lol back in 2009 when Avatar came out, too.
Legion Explained: A weak attempt at replacing Skynet with a greater technological terror
Huh?
@@returnofhorusthegalacticor9704 Legion, the new Skynet, except not as good.
Would have been cool to see how they knew it became self-aware.
Yes, i want a movie which show Skynet's entire history and his feelings. A movie in Skynet's eyes. It's boring only see the human side.
@@Paka1918 Imagine having an AI program write it and use a cgi system to do so, as a sort of fan made thing.
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Why not? ^^
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Thank you for this break down. It was definitely needed
It's my own personal head-canon that war in the future eventually becomes the world of The Matrix.
Personally I love the portrayal of Skynet in Salvation. It's much more human than it recognises... or chooses to ignore. Oh, and it's sassy.
I also love that. The best portrayal is in the Salvation comic "The last Battle". One of the few content which doesn't celebrate Skynet's destruction.
I just watched T1 and T2 yesterday so nice timing on this one :-) Also regarding T6 one thing I would have loved to see was Arnold playing the human that Skynet would use as the base for the T-800 series, might just be me but I think it would be interesting. That and it would allow Arnold to be old without contrived plot-reasons as in Genesis.
I also thought that might also be what they are doing because they mentioned they dont want to use CGI and make him younger again :)
We can hope can't we? :-)
If they won’t use cgi would that mean that they would have to go a few decades into the future?
It's an interesting concept, but I wish they'd been able to have done it with Salvation and make him someone we were attached too somehow. Like a member of Kyle Reese's unit. IDK. I do like this concept.
Its not t6 bruh
Netflix needs to take the terminator series and make season of After judgment day
11:30 “The new film scheduled for a 2019 release following the events of Terminator 2: Judgement Day ignoring the rest of the films...”
YES!! A film that finally does Terminator justice!
Nice joke
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How could you have known how wrong you’d be....
@@randomvids7797 Yeah,I can only imagine his horror when he sees what an immense shitstorm garbage Dakr Fate seems to be going for.
I loved Dark Fate ok?!
I like how everyone overlooks the term “human error”. What better way to eliminate human error than to eliminate humans.
This is 2020 speaking
That 2019 Terminator movie - wasn't that great
sorry
We must send you back in time to warn them
I liked it a lot. Much better followup to T1 and T2 than the other movies.
On Judgment Day ..
SKYNET: "Easy Money."
How can terminator exist where stargate command exsits? 🤔
My thoughts exactly man. That place is already occupied. Go find your own super secret base!
Indeed.
Had to stop the ori somehow.
Well SGC is under NORAD there's a door
Same place, different universe. Just like the tunnel entrance for NORAD in the film wargames was also used as one entrance to get to toon town in who framed Roger Rabbit.
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One question. Why would Skynet in Terminator: Salvation prioritize the capture of Kyle Reese? There's no possible way it could know he is John Conner's father. This is well before it develops time travel technology (which only went backwards anyway, couldn't return a person or Terminator to the future). Yes, the Terminator in Genesis had the blueprints to make a time travel machine in the past, but that wasn't canonical yet. Anyone here says, "retcon," isn't thinking straight.
I just want them to make a movie about the future with skynet. Thats all i Ask for. Post-apocalyptic with dark grittines and the feel of doom among dying humans
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Cheers Tyler :)
The concern of A.I. is a vast majority imo, ppl have the platform to be heard, problem is the so called geniuses don't want to hear it.
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Here is my take & personal opinion on how the terminator movies should of went.
T1 - we get to first see the destructive power of the t-800 and what it can do mixed with its hatred for humanity plus its core mission.
T2 - we see the terminator return from a future that is uncertain and it develops consciousness and learns that humans can be better and the world can be different.
T3 - with the inevitable future war we are now 20 years ahead of the events of t1 & t2 and we now see what a world that's ravaged by nuclear war & over run by man hating machines is like with the bleak survival and odds of finding food very slim. But we have a saviour who is captuted by skynet and skynet learns why he fights even though he is human he is vulnerable & flawed unlike machines which neve tire, never stop or hunger or die so skynet decides to pair up with humanity for john connors death but we get a massive cliffhanger where john connor dies and we dont know whether skynet stays with its promise or if it will replicate john connor with his memories & the machine john connor infiltrate the resistanve and end the war.
When Elon was talking about robots killing people in the background of Terminator 2's opening scene that just really hit me.
This is the future warning. Stay away from Terminator dark fade.
I absolutely loved terminator salvation. I loved the theme of the movie.
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Why on Earth do Terminators in Salvation THROW targets? Why not CRUSH them?
he first 3 films showed the post apocalypse world in such a low budget manner its awesome,
Arnie is back, as the Terminator; only this time he's incontinence prone, forgetful, and has dentures.
Did you hear about the computer program recently to calculate stuff about the universe that actually did more than it was designed to do? That creeped me out a bit.
Dark Fate did to Terminator what TLJ did to Star Wars.
I always get upset when someone says “I’ll be back.” and doesn’t follow it up by driving a cop car through the front door.
What if the resistance tried to build a large emp
Wouldn’t matter, since it’s central core was housed in the NORAD complex, which is housed in the Cheyenne Mountain Complex. And since that base is able to handle being hit by a nuclear weapon (which puts out a HUGE EMP blast also), and keep functioning, the Resistances only option was to infiltrate the complex, and destroy the core.
I hate it when a terminator grabs someone only to throw them away. That is so stupid. If it was real, the terminator would not just grab them but it would immediately shatter every bone in the place of contact. And it would most certainly not throw them away to relative safety but it would instead rip them to shreds.
Good video though, love your Explored series.
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Thanks buddy! Adding them to the list now :)
blood plague from State of Decay 2?
Explore venom and carnage
Sure adding those to the list now :)
Cool
FilmComicsExplained Hell yeah!
I don't care about any of that stuff. Just give me my own personal 2B and i'm a happy man.
I'm so glad they finally made a movie set in the future and stayed there and not going back in time. Great to see Chris Bale as Conner but he doesn't look like Nick stall or that guy from t2 or Jason Clarke.