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Shure SM86 vs Shure SM58
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ต.ค. 2013
- A review of the Shure SM86 condenser vocal microphone, in comparison to the legendary Shure SM58. The SM86 is described by Shure as the 'big brother' to the '58 and is a versatile alternative to the industry standard vocal mic, for both vocal and (surprisingly) instrument applications.
Also includes an explanation of the way in which dynamic and condenser microphones work, and demonstrations of both mics.
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I never knew a mic is so deeply engineerd.
These are quality reviews. I enjoy your presentations Bruno!
Thanks for watching!
Bruno, off late I've become your fan, cant stop watching your videos. BTW I'm from Bangalore, India and your videos are so precise and any layman can understand how you present and explain audio engineer and other stuff. I've now understood a lot of audio stuff. Many thanks for all your knowledge sharing. Now i know why distortion and other noise show-up in my church. Thanks again.
Most thorough review and instruction I've seen -- extremely helpful.
Kent Clark Thanks for watching!
Fantastic video. Perfect balance between amateur and professional information. I use the 58's all the time and sadly have never crossed paths with the 86. Found this very interesting. Thank you for this video!
Thanks for watching! The SM86 is quite a sleeper in Shure's lineup - most people know the Beta 87 but that mic is voiced like the rest of the Beta series and is also quite a bit more expensive.
When it comes to definition, you just can't beat a condenser. Thanks for this thorough comparison. I thought the difference between the mics was especially striking on the guitar. There are so many useless mic reviews on YT. This one was very helpful!
Pete Tauriello Agreed, the additional high frequency information is so important in that regard. Having said that, many modern dynamic mics from companies like Audio Technica have an amazing amount of high end response - for example my current favourite vocal mic, the AE4100, goes from 90Hz all the way to 18Khz, which in live sound is practically indistinguishable from a condenser.
Thanks for watching and commenting :)
This was an excellent review. Thank you for sharing GLB Productions
K Sherman You're welcome, thanks for watching :)
As usual, a focused, appropriately detailed and clear presentation. Your general outline and ability to expand on points show an extreme degree of mental organization to summon up relevant technical and experiential detail. I hope you are also teaching at a local university. I've watched hundreds of TH-cam lectures over the years, from whitewater kayaking to discussions of Marcel Proust, and I've never seen anyone so good.
Thanks Gordon - it's not mental organisation, it's lesson planning 😊 I have learned not to rely on my memory for any of these videos - I always have lots of notes on hand, and sometimes even a full script of what I'm going to say. Thanks for your support!
Such a great review! Gave me so much to look into.
Glad it was helpful!
hello sir..this is pradeep ,a singer from india... your review of the microphones is really informative... thanks a lot for adding this video
Thank you. Very well put together comparison between the 2 microphones.
You're welcome, thanks for watching!
Great review, i bought an sm86 vs an sm58 some while ago, revisited now the reviews and was reminded of why i bought the sm86. Good mic by the way.
miagy420 Yes, the '86 is a very under-rated microphone - in many cases people who listen to it don't realise it's a condenser, they just think it's a dynamic with lots of top end. I'm very glad Shure has kept it in their line up!
You would make a great teacher Bruno!!! Thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge.
Thanks KC, I've been an educator for almost 15 years 😊
@@GLBProductions Ahhh! It really shows. The videos are awesome. Short, concise just enough tech info without getting too
bogged down. Top Class!! FYI, I have started making my own audio cables thanks to you.
Thanks KC, happy new year to you and all the best for 2020!
- Thanks for the positive feedback, much appreciated.
Amazing review. Thank you! I'm sold on the 86!
+Jon Tario Glad to hear that, it's a good mic!
Nice job, Bruno. The higher frequencies really stood out in vocals, shaker, and guitar samples. By the way, I'm glad you didn't try the "drop test" with the SM86. Thanks.
- Thanks for watching! And no, those drop tests are only for people who get free microphones ;)
Thank you for this in depth review and comparison of the mics, Christoph Waltz! ;)
You're most welcome Christoph.
As always fantastic info-great explanation and a proper in-depth look at the subject 👍🏻🇬🇧🇺🇸
Thanks for watching!
Very Helpful for both Buyer and end user Great Job
Kishu Agnani Thanks for watching!
What an unbelievable comparison. Thank you so much for such thoroughness. I'm a pro singer, and prefer by far the SM86, it's an awesome mic with such beautiful, crisp sound. The problem however is that it's so susceptible to feedback, given of course its condenser nature.
Juan Manuel You're welcome, thanks for watching. If you are having feedback issues with the SM86 it might be worth investigating a mic with a super or hypercardioid pickup pattern like the Shure Beta 87A.
This is tremendously helpful and thorough! Thank you 🙌🏽🙌🏽
You're welcome Antonio, thanks for watching!
Excellent release!
Thanks for watching :)
I bought an 86 a few years ago and have used 58's for years. Can't believe how much better the 86 sounds on your review.
Yes, the additional high end and clarity is very obvious when recording, less so when using the mic live.
Very useful review Bruno - thanks for taking the time to do it. I would agree with your comments about the SM86 suiting certain types of voice better than the SM58. To my ears the 86 is a bit more 'open sounding' in the upper frequency range.
I own and use both models - some singers look warily at the 86 if it's offered so I say to them 'try it' and then decide. Most are more than happy to continue using it.
+TheSoundman57 I have been using the '86 a lot of late especially with my own singing - I find that it's easier to 'work' than a dynamic and wonder why I never tried a vocal condenser before. I'm planning to get one of the Audio Technica vocal condensers soon to compare to my AE4100.
Very well done review! One of the best!!
+Jan Mikhail Pesimo Thanks for watching :)
THANK YOU!!!! This is an EXCELLENT Video! Great Job!!! I Need to have at least one Shure SM86 in my collection!!! Now I need to see how the Shure SM86 sounds compared to the PG-81 and the SM-81
+CEO Tariq Nelson Yes, the '86 is a great mic to have. Thanks for watching!
You think about every detail. Great video!
+SabiReznor0666 I'm glad you appreciate the detail - some people just want 5 minute videos ;)
Автор молодец, очень наглядное и грамотное сравнение. Спасибо за интересное видео!
Great test! Thank you!
I have just recently subscribed to your channel. I am very glad to have found you. You certainly know your stuff. My ear tells me the sm-58 sounds most natural without coloring the original sound and the sm-86 definitely has more presence that is for certain. I suspect unless the singer is directly in front of or holding the 86, it could conceivably wash a mix slightly with background noise on a loud stage. And perhaps feedback more easily. I really like your channel.
We are about to buy some Shure wireless mics and I was having a tough time deciding between the SM58 and SM86 heads. This video was really informative - since we will mostly be using our mics in conference/seminar situations (no music, no recording) it looks like the SM86 might be a little more forgiving for people who are unaccustomed to holding microphones. Thanks!
I would agree with that - just be sure to go easy on the gain. Despite what Shure claim, other things being equal an SM86 will generally feed back before an SM58 because of its greater high frequency sensitivity. It's one of those inevitable design tradeoffs.
GLB Productions I want to buy this
Thank you for showing this review SM86 has much more details.
Yes that is a characteristic of condenser mics :)
Awesome reviews coming from you. The others reviewers need lessons from your book for sure.
Outstanding review! Thank you so much! Subbed!
You're welcome and Happy New Year!
Bruno! I'm your newest fan. Thank you for making such a perfect video. I have to say I got a bit lost in the technical and diagram bits, but your explanations and demonstrations are great for a not so technically minded person like me. Do you do a review of the new digital handheld mics? Thinking specifically of Shure vs Senheiser. I've a big purchase in the future and I would love a compare video like this on those systems.
Hi there Vicky, nice to hear from you. You have a GREAT voice! I'm generally not a fan of the mics with built in electronics, I prefer to keep those outside the mic in the mixer and/or digital interface. Electronics always wear out and need updating, well-built mics should last a lifetime. If you are looking at a specific model of Shure or Sennheiser just drop me a msg, I can take a look and see what I think :)
Thank you for the great review, it's rich and thorough as all of your videos.
Just wondering, would you say that the SM68 is better suited for a group choir where the group will have to stand a bit further from the microphone? And then again, will it be harder to manage feedback noise in this case as opposed to using a dynamic mic?
I'm having troubles fixing our church sound problems while keeping in to a budget. We have a traditional choir and we cant afford to have a dedicated microphone for each person.
Hi Samer I have done a video on the best way to mic up a choir with as few mics as possible, you can watch it here: th-cam.com/video/60ePeU8g-30/w-d-xo.html
Excellent review thanks
You're welcome, thanks for watching :)
I would like to tell you that might be best in-depth comparison i've ever watched on youtube. Amazing work. Subscribed immediately. Thanks to you we've seen the real difference between a our two options. We've decided to go with SM-87A (which is not what you compared though).
- Thanks for watching. The SM87A has a supercardioid polar pattern as opposed to the cardioid polar pattern of the SM86, so you will get a tighter pickup pattern at the front of the mic and an increased proximity effect over the SM86. Hope the new mic works out!
Sorry, I've just realized that SM87A and Beta 87A are totally different microphones. One says just "condenser" and the other says "electret condenser". We've chosen to go with the Beta. This is going to be used for live and mostly for pop sound.(to give you an exact sample, here's our band and this is for the lead vocal: facebook.com/photo.php?v=522233047880654 ) Would it be better to go for Beta 87A?
- Actually they are both electret condenser microphones - if you look at the specifications page of the Shure website you'll see this indicated. Electret condenser just means that the mic's diaphragm is permanently polarised, as opposed to having the polarising voltage supplied externally.
The beta series has a more aggressive 'in your face' sound compared to the SM series and are better for rock/metal etc. There's a short comparison from Shure here: Products in comparison: Condenser microphones SM86, SM87, Beta 87A, Beta87C, KSM9
I suggest you try both mics and see which one your singer prefers.
You, sir, are an amazing person. Can't thank you enough.
Zimbilik Not at all, you are most welcome. All the best with your music!
awesome review Bruno!
Thanks for watching Ankit!
This should be called 'dynamic vs condenser' microphones and their difference.
- Thanks for your interesting and valuable observations! The voicing on the two mics is very similar, so boosting the high end on the SM58 should give you a sound close to that the of '86. However, bear in mind that doing so in a live situation is likely to lead to feedback at the boosted frequency. For recording it should be fine.
The SM86 definitely picks up more background noise, and in my experience is best suited to quieter stages, or to recording.
that said, which one is best for house environment karaoke singing. will it be 58 for less feedback? thanks
Thanks, that was really useful and informative. We have been a studio act for several years, but are now rehearsing a live band. We can't easily test tech where we are based, so your review has convinced me that the SM86 would better suit the light, airy female vocals in our music than the 58. We've been using a Rode Nt1 in our studio for a long time and the 86, a condenser like the Rode, would give us a live sound comparable to the studio vocal sound. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for the message! If you like the Rode NT1 sound a live alternative would be the Rode S1 - coming from the same company means it would likely have a more similar sound. I haven't tested this mic but it's something to consider.
Cheers! Will look into it.
Very good demonstration!
Pro!
Fantastic video!!!
Thanks for watching! 😄
nice review!!! could u pls.. do a Shure SM87A vs SM86 ??
Excellent excellent job...
Thank you for this valuable information!
REDMANNATION You're welcome, thanks for watching. Which mic did you decide on?
Great review ! Thanks a lot !!!
You're most welcome.
An excellent comparison. Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Great review...very useful.. thanks 👍
You're welcome Naveen :)
Awesome review
You're welcome Waimea :)
Great video, wonderfully informative. I hear a Welsh undertone in your voice - very interesting
Great review !!!!
Tony Cace Thanks for watching!
Great review, I love the well explained details. As a pianist-singer I am planning to shift from my sm58 to a mic that allows me more flexibility while I sing and play the piano....The sm 58 doesn't help a lot with that. Trying to see what are best options available that wouldn't give feedback issues as well.
Thanks Antoine :) The SM86 was recently discontinued and there is no direct equivalent in Shure's current lineup. The KSM9 and Beta87c are alternatives but are significantly more expensive.
Rely a deep review. I hope to see about the set up
Thanks for watching!
This really helps! I have a new mic invention and need to see the differences between Shure mics. Seems that with my invention, I can transform both mics into something even better sounding than the most expensive studio mics. I can change the freq response naturally, even with no preamp. Thanks for these comparisons, appreciate it!
You're welcome :)
Is your invention in production now?
- Thanks for subscribing! Pick up of background noise will always be more of an issue with condensers than dynamics, which is the trade-off for the improved high frequency and transient response of these mics. Different tools for different situations :)
Surely eq adjustment can improve trade off effect, no?
Great job on this review..........Regards, Pete
Peter Winnett Thanks for watching :)
Hi,I've been watching this channel and I'm loving it.Since you are also a Singaporean,can I ask where will I be able to get the Shure SM86 here?I live at the North-east side.And,it'll be great if you could do vocal comparisons with these mics as well.Please answer and thank you!
In Singapore check out Wailian electronics at Sim Lim square they have good prices on Shure gear. Alternatively you can try the distributor E&E at Outram Road.
Thanks for this. I'm very curious about the condenser vs dynamic debate as it relates to sensitivity. Do you think the difference is the actual mics or that the gain level needs to adjusted down due to the powered condenser and when all things are equal, the two mics would actually have the same sensitivity to background "noise." In the end it may come down to frequency response as the actual difference between sensitivities.
Hello Ray, thanks for watching! Hmm, I'm not a microphone designer or a recording engineer, so to me the business of mic sensitivity is somewhat academic much of the time. The one time that it is important to me as a live sound engineer is when it comes to matching a new mic to ann existing mic. So for example if I'm going to replace an SM58 with a Beta 58a I know that I need to reduce my channel gain by 3dB in order to keep gain structure throughout the signal chain identical.
When it comes to dynamics vs condensers there is the added complication of the fact that condensers have self-noise. This tends to be of more interest to the recording engineers - in live sound we work in a very noisy environment with stage bleed, crowd noise, wind, passing traffic etc. But it is important to understand that a condenser will add noise to the signal chain, whereas a dynamic will add none.
Ok, so to answer your question - the sensitivity difference IS due to the mics themselves, because the measurement is independent of the mic's self noise: all they do is apply a test tone to the mic and then measure the voltage at the output. In practice which mic is noisier will depend on the quality of the mic preamp in your mixer. In this case, the SM58 will need 4.5dB more gain than the SM86 to achieve the same output for a given input. Whether or not this extra gain creates an end result that is noisier than the condenser or not will need to be worked out on a case by case basis. In practice though, almost nobody will be able to hear this difference at a live event.
Thanks for raising this question, it's a good issue to be aware of.
Excellent comparison!!
Thanks for watching!
Bruno, Excellent comparison as always. Unfortunately my Mackie VLZ4's phantom power, when turned on, effects all channels. Is there a work around for this?
Jim Frey Yes that's how smaller mixers tend to be, mainly due to price point constraints ;) What is the situation in which you find that you need a workaround for this issue?
Thank you very much for this video! =)
- You're most welcome, thanks for watching!
Superb review. Really informative for a novice such as myself. Can I ask, of the two, which you would recommend for recording, given the background noise that is picked up by the 86. To my ear, it would sound like a more articulate mic but do you think the background noise might negate that benefit. Thanks, Tom
Tom Byrne Thanks for getting in touch Tom. You could use either one - there have been superb recordings made with the SM58 even though it's not a condenser. The background noise picked up by the SM86 can be managed by choosing your recording location carefully and just getting close to the mic to maximise your signal to noise ratio. If in doubt I'd say start with the SM58 because it's half the price of the 86 :)
GLB Productions Thanks so much for your response. I do have the sm58 & find it great. It's just that I have been offered an sm86 and they seem to read very well review wise on the Net as the 58's big brother. I just wanted your feedback before I press ahead or not. Many thanks.Regards, Tom
Tom Byrne You're welcome, all the best with your music!
Excellent Job Sir. Excellent indeed!.
nitrofx80 Thank you for watching!
excellent work sir.. thankyou
arfurlife You're welcome, thanks for watching.
Hello and wonderful video! I had a question I couldn't find the answer too in the comments section. I do inward vocals for metal style music . Mostly guttural low sounds and less often some really sharp screechy highs. Would the 86 be better for my inward vocal style? Thank you.
titrationss Without hearing your voice through the two mics I'm afraid I can't give you a good answer to that question. Most metal singers will use a dynamic mic though, so you may be better off with the SM58.
Best information.
Hi dude, excellent video! Just to share, I've tried on a SM86 this evening and discovered that this mic actually able to pick up my vocal very well (and loud) even when I placed the front of the mic at around 90 degree to my lips. I suppose it has got to do with the theory of a condenser mic (i.e. wider range). Anyway, I'm really very impressed by your explaination on the difference between the "dynamic" and "condenser" theory. I've benefit a lot, and will share this video with my friends. :-)
- Yes the SM86 is a very under-appreciated mic and is often better than the '58 for general vocal applications. Thanks for watching and sharing!
@@GLBProductions sir please suggest me what model will be best to record live karoake track in the room size 9" ×12". For output sound I have sony home theater speaker in which we can insert mic cable to sing. Kindly suggest. I am v gud vocalist with the grace of god
@@mkmahajan You can record Karaoke using either mic just fine - depends whether you prefer the sound of a dynamic or a condenser.
Good review. I agree with almost everything you say fully. I am a live stage sound engineer for 15 years and work with both these microphones. Mostly in wirelsess versions but the microphones(heads) are the same as the wired versions. I let the type of voice of the singer decide which type to use. Overall I think the sound of the 86 is better for singers both male and female who have a better voice. For more average singers or party bands where the clearness of the voice is a little less important, the sm58 is more "forgiving" :)
+computerjantje Yes these days I never use the SM58 as singer's microphone, there are many better, more modern options out there. However as a mic for spoken word applications the '58 still works well in many situations.
You just changed my outlook totally! I could grasp everything you said and lucidly demonstrated. SM 86 is superior, according to my perception.
Thank you, Bruno.
You're welcome Anindya!
Refreshingly cohesive & informative - thank you! Could you please advise on where you purchased that desk mic stand (18:37)?
You're welcome Yana, thanks for watching. I got that stand at my local music store - just ask for a short round-based mic stand, or desk mic stand, they're pretty ubiquitous. BTW you have a lovely voice, hope your channel continues to grow!
Thank you very much for responding, I will definitely do that :) Wow, thank you so much for checking out my channel and for such a lovely compliment, you are awfully kind
Like this review - thanks
- You're welcome, thanks for watching :)
Great job!
Thanks for watching!
Great video. I'd like to hear an SM57 v SM86 comparison, if at all possible.
Can you use the grille interchangeably between SM86 and SM58?
No - the grille design is part of the sound of the microphone.
- I would agree with you, I feel it has a much more balanced sound and much greater clarity. However it is almost twice the price of the SM58, which always has to be taken into consideration ;)
If I do home karaoke vocal recording, which one should I use? Thanks
Try both and see which one you prefer.
Thanks I need sm86 in church for either announcements or preaching. Can’t wait for the month to pass the amount of time Thomann takes to send it off because of some dB 15 Opera speaker’s not being in my stock.
The SM86 has actually been discontinued according to Shure's website, so good idea to get your order in now.
You've said that the SM86 "has more reach". How do you explain this?
This seems confusing given that the mic doesn't "go and get" the sound but simply responds to the sound that arrives AT it. The Inverse Square Law would seem to dictate that this would be the same for both mics.
My only explanation is that this is because the signal level from the SM58 has proportionally more low end response, which is lost due to "inverse proximity effect". This loss of low end wouldn't be as noticeable on the SM86 because there isn't as much of it to begin with.
Thoughts?
- Yes you are absolutely correct - there is no such thing as a zoom lens when it comes to microphones! However I have noticed that almost all microphones designed for picking up sounds at a distance, such as gooseneck and shotgun mics, are condensers. So I would attribute this to a) a greater sensitivity to begin with, and b) greater high frequency response. When it comes to the spoken voice, a loss of high frequencies is often interpreted as being a loss of volume, which is why audiences often complain that they 'cannot hear' when in fact they cannot understand what is being said.
I want the mic ,which will catch speech sound from long distance.please suggest if any?
For that application you should choose a shotgun microphone aka a line gradient condenser.
I'm sorry to bother you again, but I just received my Shure SM86 and it works great with my PreSonus, but when plugging it into my PA system, there is no sound. I wonder if it's something very obvious I'm missing? It seems to work straight forwardly in your video, so I have no idea what it could be
Hello Yana, it's probably that your phantom power is not on :)
THNX DEAR. ITS VERY HELPFUL TO ME
Gurtar Singh You're welcome, thanks for watching.
Hi you could take a test Shure SM86 VS Shure beta 87 A ?
Thanks you are really a help. At my church I used all sorts of microphones condensers and dynamic (but not Sure). Finally I selected the goose neck condensers they are really sensitive and not causing me troubles as the other ones (the problem was from the speakers , they don't know how to use microphones) my question is does it worth it trying out the SM58 or 86 ? and what is the difference with beta58 . Thank You for your response.
- I would first try to educate the members of your church who lead or speak in services about proper microphone technique. It should include topics such as how to position the microphone and how to adjust a microphone stand. This will allow them to better use the microphone already available and save the church on buying additional equipment.
The Shure Beta series are designed for loud stages, so they have more high midrange and a hotter output to allow a singer to be heard over a loud band. Personally I prefer the SM series for general purpose use.
Thanks for the advice
wonderful review brother bruno. it was indeed very informative. because of this video i am pondering of getting myself an sm58. but tell, what then is the difference between the sm58 and the beta58? i hope you also make a video of these latter microphones. god bless you and your church.
emilio roe serquiña gapit Thanks for watching, glad you found the video helpful. The Beta 58 has a more aggressive sound with more upper midrange and a hotter output. It was designed for rock/metal singers who had to hear themselves on loud stages. If your stage volume is very high the Beta58 is a better choice, otherwise the SM58 is perfectly fine. God Bless you too brother!
+GLB Productions if the stage volume is very high then expect to have a short carreer in music or learn to live with a beep or noise in your hearing or deafness eventually :) Modern stages should be more quiet and as everyone can wear in-ear monitors and the drummer should sell his akoutic drumset to avoid getting jobless, the stagesound should become less and with that the soundqualty will increase a lot :)
***** I couldn't agree with you more. Nevertheless, there are many clubs and smaller venues out there without the luxury of in ear monitors.
Great!! I noticed that the 86 sounds much fuller, but I have a fear that if I use it for home recording with my electrical guitar that is plugged into Roland Tri Capture audio interface, it may pick up my hands plucking the strings, since it is condenser and more sensitive.
I currently am using SM58 for singing, but I am thinking of getting another dynamic to place close to the first one while playing the guitar. The reason is that I tend to look towards the left hand and not talking on axis. What you think of this? should I get another dynamic of the same or another dynamic beside the SM58, or may be one of those Condensers for my room or studio recording? thanks
+Aluchi Del Pasado When recording guitar and vocals together it is normal to get some 'bleed' from one mic into another - it's almost impossible to get perfect separation. If you are very concerned about this consider a super or hypercardioid mic like the Shure Beta 87A.
On the two-mic idea: is this for recording or live use?
it is for home recording. I basically use Shure sm58 for vocal, and no micing for guitar. I plug in the electrical guitar into the mic input of Roland Tri Capture audio interface. I am just concerned that the condenser mic may pick up my stumming hands every time I pick a string.
Thanks again
+Aluchi Del Pasado It definitely will - in fact if you listen carefully I'm sure your SM58 also picks up your guitar when you play and sing at the same time. If you want absolute separation you need to record the guitar and vocal separately.
How can I do this separately? thanks for the help
+Aluchi Del Pasado You would use your recording software to first record the guitar track using the pickup and/or mic. Then wearing headphones you would listen to the guitar track whilst recording the vocal. Standard studio multitrack technique :)
such a detailed and thorough review, nice!
Sorry what do you say here 16:36 "suitable as a ...?? microphone, or a podium microphone"
Thanks! That word is "Lectern" which is the place from where scripture is read in a church or cathedral.
@@GLBProductions thanks!!
Great job... Would you say the sm86 is a bit brighter than the 58? Kind of like the Beta 87A?
It definitely sounds brighter than the SM58 by virtue of being a condenser - they naturally have more high frequency response due to the different technology used in the transducer. Compared to the Beta 87A, it is a different type of brightness: the Beta series were all designed and engineered with more 'bite' to cut through on loud stages, the SM86 has more detail and air than the SM58. This difference is subtle but very important.
@@GLBProductions Thanks a lot... I've been using the Beta 57A for vocals for many years and I'm now looking for a wireless system.. I've been thinking about the SM86?
You would need to try one out to be sure, as there are significant differences between those two mics!
Hello sir.. mind if i ask you is there such thing as unbalanced mic? If there is then how am I gonna make it a balanced mic? I ask this because of cellphone interference that occurs as I used mic with cable at about 15 meters and with a TS connector.
Luis Pilongo Yes there are unbalanced microphones for consumer use, such as connecting directly to computers, or for karaoke use. These microphones can be identified by their TS connectors and/or by the presence of a battery in the mic, but the best way to be sure is to look up the specifications of the mic.
GLB Productions Thank you sir... :)
Hello sir, good day to you. Sir I just want ask you sir, if I wanted to set 2 gooseneck mic (SHURE MX418) on a podium, what is the best setup in the audio mixing console? should I pan them to left & right like one (channel 1) is panned in left and the other one (channel 2) is panned on the right? or should both channel stay in the center pan settings?
Thank you very much sir.
buboy quibin My personal preference with podium microphones is to use only one of them at a time - the second one stays off and is used either as a spare or as a broadcast/recording feed. The reason for this is that the human voice is mono, and speech is best reproduced in mono, coming equally from all speakers. So in my opinion, pan both mics centre but only turn one of them on.
Thank you very much sir.
buboy quibin You're most welcome.
***** Yes, getting podium mics loud enough is a constant challenge. First of all make sure that you are using a mic that is appropriate for the podium and that is the positioned correctly - dynamic mics should not be more than 6" from the person's mouth.
Secondly, with a podium mic I strongly recommend using both a compressor and a gate - because the mic is used by many different people it is very hard to set the gain to a level that will suit all of them. So I will usually set the gain to 12 o'clock to begin with, and then insert a compressor to even out the level. This is not ideal but is often the most practical approach in the real world. The gate may be necessary to get enough level, especially if you have high background noise caused by fans or air-conditoning.
Thank you very much sir.
Hey where do you put the microphone of the snare drum over or under the snare drum? Thanks...
I use either or both positions, depending on the sound of the drum and the style of music. Most professional sound engineers will use both and blend them together.
Do you put microphones to the entire drum kit? And do you use di boxes on bass guitars? Thanks.... :)
It depends on the gig and what sort of system I have to work with :) Some gigs every drum gets a mic, others only kick and snare, some no mics at all. Yes, I always DI the bass guitar.
Ok thanks for the information
Is there any big difference between the SM86 and the Beta87?
I have not had a chance to compare them side by side but looking at the frequency charts the Beta87c has more in the high mids. The Beta series are also known to be more aggressive sounding than the SM mics.
What is the different between the SM86 en de SM58a Beta?
The Beta 58 is a dynamic mic like the SM58 but has a supercardioid pickup pattern. It uses a neodymium magnet for a hotter output and also has a more aggressive midrange - it was designed for loud stages where the vocal needs to cut through better than with an SM58.
Thank you for this very detailed review. I'm on the hunt for a good vocals microphone for our band vocalist and I am choosing between the Shure SM58, Behringer Ultravoice XM8500, Sennheiser E835 and just for kicks, the Pyle PDMICR42BK Classic... Any thoughts? Thank you very much and greetings from the Philippines.
Tim Ryan Alejo Thanks for getting in touch. What sort of band do you play in, and what sort of a lead singer do you have?
GLB Productions What do you mean by "what sort of a lead singer"? Is it the voice type? Mezzo Soprano I think... Anyhow, we are an alternative rock band, much like Paramore since we have a female lead singer.. I appreciate you taking time to respond to my query. Thank you very much.
Tim Ryan Alejo
Yes, voice type and also singing style - whether she tends to work the mic close or at a distance, whether she screams or whispers that sort of thing.
For a start I can tell you that I have no experience with the Pyle mic so cannot make a recommendation on that one way or the other. I do not recommend Behringer mics for live sound - I have had bad experiences with their gear in the past and do not consider it reliable enough for professional use.
The SM58 and E835 are relatively similar-sounding. Both are cardioid dynamic mics and are designed for general purpose vocal use. Both have strong proximity effect and a boost in the highs and upper midrange. The E835 will have a little bit more midrange and a somewhat smoother high end - also it is a much more modern design, and some singers prefer the shape of the mic as it's more unusual than the '58. I would say at this point let your singer choose! These mics are quite easy to find in stores so it's worth auditioning them both.
Tim Ryan Alejo You're welcome. Yes, you guys have a pretty amazing homegrown music industry over there - I hear there are domestic manufacturers of pretty much everything in the signal chain!
Thanks for the video - you might tell your singer not to hold the mic by the grille, it makes them sound very middy and can increase the risk of feedback. Yeah it looks cool but the grille area needs to be kept clear for the mic to sound correct ;)
that's supereb ... very much in depth... love it thanx..
plz keep it up..... :-)
- Thanks for watching :)
How about the Shure SM58?Where do I buy it possibly at a discounted price?Thanks,it'll be of great help!
Watch a video or two on how to tell the difference between a fake 58 and a real one. Some cheap "58's" are just fakes that aren't nearly as good as the real thing. Also a new 58 isn't very expensive. I'd save the extra to get the real deal new myself.
+Chris K Ok thanks for the comment!
NP. If you wind up with second hand units, unscrew the top "cage" and pull out the foam insert. Wash it with warm soapy water, rinse well and allow to dry thoroughly. Scrub the metal cage with a toothbrush and hot soapy water (or dishwash) Don't wash any other part of the mike. Dirty cages affect sound, are unhygienic and often even smell bad. Happy mixing bud.
I just download your video and converted the file into mp3 format. Then for the SM58 samples I boosted 6k Hz and above by 5dB. The result is a sound very close to the SM86 but without all the noises.
Which would you recommend for a bass in a choir doing a solo? Dynamic or condenser?
Probably a dynamic in order to reduce pick up of the other singers, but if he has good mic technique and is a strong singer a condenser may give more detail. As always, use what sounds best and the singer is most comfortable with.
GLB Productions
Thanks.
If the mixer's phantom power is applied to all mic channels, does that mean you cannot utilize different mike types (condenser vs dynamic) at the same time.
You can - dynamic mics with balanced outputs will ignore phantom power. Just don't plug/unplug stuff while the phantom power is on ;)
Bro can you do a review on Heil microphones as well?
- I'm afraid that these mics are quite rare in Singapore, so it may be a while before I can get my hands on one. Which models are you interested in seeing a review of?
Thank you!
You're welcome Peter!