The voice of true art is interconnected with the divine love of mankind. Listen to the artist that says change is coming for they are the first to notice. Create unselfishly, create with joy and laughter, create because you are called to by the divine. Love creation.
Thank you, Samuel. It's not your responsibility alone to energize the world's artists (which for me includes creators of the transcendent image, the haunting sound, the purposeful word, monumental building, gyroscopic dance and riveting performance). But we definitely need an agent of commanding encouragement like you. An avatar of cultural pivot, a standard-bearer for our creative ancestors' memory and legacies. To dare to pursue creative work today as a spiritual vocation, a field of academic study, a career of generativity or a mission of meaning is a brave choice, unless our cerebral cortex refuses us any choice in the matter. Some people apparently believe the makers of art are driven by saints or satan, that art is like an infectious disease, a mental illness or irresistible drive to renew the world's sublimity every time we see a sunrise over the Thames, or hear the afternoon breeze whisper the first four annunciatory notes of our 5th symphony. If art was that groaningly obvious in its origins, the torch & pitchfork reactionaries now ascendant in the liberal democracies would indeed be entitled to hand us over to the Grand Inquisitor. Our problem isn't really external persecution or internal mediocrity (today at least), but rather the vacuum of a shared formal system or style, like the triadic tonality of Common Practice, or the meaning-propelled representations of Western perspective in painting, or the character studies suspended from a narrative arc and navigating compounded realities with intertextual innovations in contemporary fiction. We who preceded todays starlets knew history because we wanted to, and the conventions of Handel, Schubert, Brahms, Ravel and even Stravinsky were invigorating to us. Most important we desired a future without cynicism, and art without aimlessness. We still call for Syria, Russia, Hungary, Brazil, Iran, Venezuela and China to govern without regulating their sculptors, without poisoning journalists or restraining composers. Most memorably we once opposed unprovoked wars (which kill creative workers as effectively as any other young soldiers) and condemned remote prisons that warehouse performance artists and political dissenters who protested with their only available weapon--a spray-can. We should forever remember the misbegotten criminal judgements of history, which took hearts, minds and lives as well as destroying priceless works and ideas. Unforgivable treatment was once endured by Cervantes, Olympe de Gouge, Henry David Thoreau, Oscar Wilde, Jean Genet, Federico Garcia Lorca, Bertolt Brecht, Magnus Hirschfeld, Walter Benjamin, Dalton Trumbo, Billy Wilder, Marion Anderson, Vladimir Nabokov and Victor Jara. Since the rise of democratic republics, composers, film-makers, graphic artists, playwrights, painters and especially novelists have tried organizing ourselves into supportive, working communities and collaborative art venues, fresh performance series and small-press bookstores. The art-world, of course, has been involuntarily globalized and commodified just like every other sphere of life. Those who try hard to reject the banality of safe sounds and bland images, who choose authenticity and self-propulsion, can do so. But we're often further fettered by "our own side!" Meaning the average musician, visual artist, poet or prose writer or university instructor can suddenly find themselves the recipient of undeserved public derogation, feeling the sharp and frequently subjective accusations of cultural elitism, of sexual harassment, of ignoring the well-established need and consensus for diversity. Where that's been true I sincerely believe thoughtful people have generally worked to repair the gaps, offenses and historic habits, especially when racism, homophobia or misogyny are on the table and really need to be swept off--permanently. For that I give much credit to the artists, musicians, writers and cultural activists of the 1970s, 80s, 90s, and also of the wretched Bush years. If anything the absence of a young progressive artist demographic or an organized creatives movement today is the result of abiding tension and stress fomented by the anti-art, anti-intellectual, anti-moral principle crusaders from the multinational Right Wing. The Right has virtually guaranteed that social graces in social media are ungerminated, and instead governed by feral "immoral" provocations. Many voices on the Web today have only a vestigial interest in the human endowments of the Enlightenment, like urban sophistication, an athletic vocabulary, self-propelled interests in art, humanitarian hopes & cosmopolitan dreams for the future. Perhaps some inspired composer could dazzle the world and lure our poor Webern-illiterate orphans to the glorious inherent tonic of contrapuntal dodecaphonic!
I am driven by this 'calling' as he put it. No amount of failure has been able to shake me from litterally having to create. I'm grateful to do so and hope my work will lift others in these times.
A lovely speech from Samuel Andreyev. I'd contend that some truly great artists, composers and writers need isolation at times for reflection and generation of ideas. My all time favourite composer, Beethoven, had a tendency to fall in love with women he knew he'd never be allowed to marry as the wealthy fathers of the women would not take a "mere" composer seriously as a potential son-in-law. Beethoven had known nothing but adversity: a drunk, abusive court musician of a father who'd drag young Ludwig out of bed at night to make him practise the keyboard; the death of four of the seven Beethoven children in infancy; a terrible flood in Bonn when Beethoven was a teenager; being the main breadwinner for the family at the age of just 18; the move to Vienna to further his career, never seeing Bonn again; the constant need for patronage in order to continue to compose; the deafness which began to creep in in his very late 20s; the bitter custody battle for his nephew Karl; Beethoven's own mood swings and suicidal thoughts over time; his presence in Vienna at the time of the siege there and so on. Had Beethoven's life been easy , he would not have been the great composer we all know and love, he is our friend for life through his great works and never lets us down. If everyone is having it too easy all the time, there may be less top class creativity. I compose jazz piano pieces, to me they are an expression of my essence and soul, and the small group of fellow pianists that are hearing them genuinely like them. I'm in my late 50s and my 56 year old cousin has just released his superb debut LP/CD in the American country genre, it's beautifully done and I hope he will get some sales. I also do artwork and post this to two of the print-on-demand websites. Here the problem is getting lost in a sea of creativity. There are some genuinely gifted artists, as well as plenty of unoriginal stuff too, and many of us do not get sales. Still, it is fun to be part of a wider community of artists and musicians, on those lower rungs of the creative hierarchy that Dr Peterson writes about so well, that leads all the way up to the likes of Bach, Mozart, Beethoven or Rembrandt, Vermeer and Van Gogh to name just a few. Keep creating everyone. At the very least, it is a great hobby, a flow activity which occupies the mind and can alleviate mental health problems and you might just come up with something that sells and earns you a good living. Just my thoughts as a dedicated amateur musician and artist.
Being a financially "successful" artist has less to do with meritocracy and "genius" and more to do with being in the right place and at the right time. The canonization of composers such as J.S Bach, W.A Mozart and L.V Beethoven is largely legacy of musicologist Heinrich Schenker, which was a product of the rise of the bourgeoisie, German nationalism and the industrial revolution.
I’m a big fan of this man. If you are a musician he does extensive breakdowns of classical composers and also my favorite frank zappa and captain beefheart on his TH-cam page.
He's not a Zappa fan. I had this impression and asked him on a QnA once lol He finds him childish, which is reasonable, but still respects him as a composer, which I think is hard not to do.
Wonderful to have strong people coming out and expressing positive ideas and motives with which to regrow our world. Thank you for this expression for music and art.
Andreyev's vision of a future where artists harness their unparalleled resources to engage with a global audience resonates deeply with the trajectory of human progress. The challenge for artists today is not just to create but to connect, to not just imagine but to inspire, and to not only reflect the times but to shape them. As we navigate this new artistic era, the key, as Andreyev concludes, is love - the fundamental force that drives human creativity and connection across ages.
The power of music is to transcend space & time - what a beautiful thing to say. I started hearing the interstellar soundtrack in my head when he said that. ❤
It's musicking that allows the music to exist in the first place. The relations and dialogue of audience, performers, composers, administrators, promoters, directors, concert venue owners, economy, web infrastructure, educators and advertisers that allow creativity to flourish in the first place. Creativity and artistry isn't an individualized activity, but is the product of the confluence of social, cultural, economic and political forces.
Good point. I liked Brian Eno's concept of "scenius" as opposed to "genius" - the genius of a scene, which includes lots of artists hanging out and chatting, listening to each other's stuff, but yeah, venues, audiences, promoters, agents and so on too.
I really like Andreyev, and this was an amazing talk. I know he's not the greatest Frank Zappa fan, but Zappa always talked about this issue: people who make an industry out of music are making business decisions, meanwhile he wanted to make music he liked to listen to. While we have Patreon, Bandcamp, Subscribestar, and the internet as a whole, they didnt have it back in the day. If a radio station didn't want your music to be played, you're screwed. It's never been easier to be a musician. In many ways, life has never been easier, yet we're too lost in complaining about it that we forget to appreciate the things our times give us.
Great positive attitude, thank you very much. Unfortunately, major parts of the world today don't have free access to music and art as he describes, as they live behind the great firewall or in similarly restricted circumstances.
Very similar to Roger Scruton! Thank you for that. He sees beauty as a value, as important as truth or goodness, that can offer “consolation in sorrow and affirmation in joy”, therefore showing human life to be worthwhile.
Sometimes… you can’t have great art without tragedy and isolation. The reason why a lot of artists lack talent today is because they all have similar life experiences. They all seem afraid to step out of the box and do something controversial.
"...it's only for incidental interest that we relate what a poet writes to his own life. Byron wrote a poem to a maid of Athens, and there really was a maid of Athens.... Wordsworth wrote some lovely poems about a girl named Lucy, but he made Lucy up. But Lucy is just as real as the maid of Athens." -Northrop Frye And whatever Shakespeare was, he sure didn't have the specific life experiences of all his plays. But he was great (like all artists are) at using conventions and ready-made stories. Something something blahblahblah the original poet is simply the one that is more profoundly imitative.
That or they think controversy is the whole point. I think a lot of artists don't have anything to say that wasn't put in their heads by someone else who said it better.
@@davidpo5517 I think that composers mix something very simple and childish to understand: managing composition techniques at the end of the road, it means nothing and has no value over time, if you really have nothing to say, or you can't say anything ....the best example to grasp, is that the composers who had something to say and in an objective way, and... not subjectively..., are very few in the history of music, and counting on the fingers of the hands,...if this is not clear,...then we are not able to truly measure the creative act.
As Gide put it: "One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore." *Les faux-monnayeurs* [The Counterfeiters] (1925). That time with no sight of the shore can be very long - indeed as Samuel's story illustrates, it can last a lifetime. So the approval and support of others may be something you should not expect to experience.
Suggestion for people who are looking for live music. During Covid, someone in my neighborhood applied for a grant from the neighborhood association to arrange concerts on various people’s front lawns. We have been treated to everything from rock and roll to classical timpani to Japanese opera. I realize that Covid is less of an issue now but live music tends to be rather expensive and it’s been such a lovely way of building community and since many of the musicians live nearby, we have gotten a real appreciation of some of our neighbors. If this has not been happening near you, feel free to organize it.
It was probably his solace.what a story thank you for sharing it. I am sure more feeling and less thinking is always wonderful in the Arts. Here here Art should be beautiful again. Dance can also be a beautiful expression of art. A platform they can be seen on could help?
The thing about art and artist that everyone seems to ignore is that you have to be good. You got to have actual skill to separate yourself from the none artist. Then to become actuality great, you got to become good enough to standout from your fellow artists. In todays world it seems like 99 percent of "artists" have absolutely no skill at all. Yes they may have a message but if thats all it took then everyone would be a artist and if tbat was the case then art wouldn't be anything.
Quite sure artists don’t dare to have children.. young people in general, but especially artists. I’m 31 - and know that for a fact by simply having friends my age, a sizeable number of artists included. Not even closely trying to say these are the worst of times, but this is not a realistically optimistic image of the role the artist can play in todays society (one of abundance yet in an apocalipse-infused paralysis throughout society as a whole). This “artist nowadays are too timid” argument is simply a narrowminded argument, even if not in ill will. I’d bet two most prominent reasons the value of art in society dropped drastically are 1) we have all collectively blurred the distinction between inspiration and entertainment / art and content / meaningful stories and empty catchphrases 2) there is no mention of personal responsibility for educating your children into arts of any kind (not for the sake of them becoming artists themselves, but to be able to appreciate it)… no mention of it even on conservative events like this one. “Try to educate your children to appreciate art even if all the Rishi Sunaks in the world swap what is left of it inside schools for a bunch more of algebra. Because it is a parental duty, especially in the world of ones and zeros. In that way leave them protected from a lack of will for meaning seeking” - would be a much more optimistic note to end on. nevertheless, good listen - thank you!
I partly agree with you, but on point 2) this really is a case of what family you happen to be born into. If you are lucky enough to have creative parents and raised in this environment you will be more likely to not only appreciate the arts but end up in a creative career yourself. My father was a naturally gifted painter as a teenager and made amazing life like pieces but his parents discouraged this and wanted him to study to get a "good job". When I was a teenager I remember visiting my grandmother one day and while playing in her back shed I found all his paintings just sitting there collecting dust, not proudly displayed in her house. I felt very sad. I never saw my father paint as an adult ever. I find it interesting that young children are given paint and paper and encouraged to play and explore but by the time we reach adulthood this has all been knocked out of us. That is because many societies, cultures, and parents in particular still hold the belief that art is just a hobby, it is not a "real job" and we should be contributing to society according to their set of values. It is not until or unless you start making a lot of money from it that they start to take you seriously. As for the school system, they do not care for teaching arts because they want you to become a reliable tax paying citizen with a traditional job for the rest of your life.
You guys have influence, power and capital. I suggest you bring together a team of lawyer's and start holding people accountable. The evidence is there and have been for long, it shouldn't be too hard. It will however attract attention from "unelected misanthropists" so its not without risk. If the law fails, there's only one thing left to do. You can't comply your way out of tyranny. Remember, each of you probably have a major following many of which would be willing to actually fight for the freedom we've worked so hard to achieve. If Jordan tomorrow decided to encourage everyone to grab their pitchforks and torches, a majority probably would. You have the people on your side. @@arc_conference
"authentic artist" ... my mind responds that this is probably interesting for almost everyone, but not me. I'm not artistic; I don't sing, I can't paint, I like music yet lyrics confuse me, I don't connect with poetry -- much in the Psalms, Proverbs, Song of Songs and other scripture has to be explained to me, and after 6 decades of the world being exposed to RAP I still don't see it as music (I typically class it as loud garbage). However I do believe that I am creative, doing what I can to find solutions to many issues that others have. I've also been invited on several occasions to speak from the pulpit (as a layman) and have had the small blessing to impact a handful of people. So how does Andreyev's talk represent ARC and resonate with non-artistic listeners? Many believe there are about 2-dozen spiritual gifts that people have, while no one expect a person to exhibit all of them. If we are created beings, how do we demonstrate that communication among the peoples in our sphere of influence? I think the answer begins with listening, and I also believe that God often chooses not to shout, but to whisper. So if you are existing in a typhoon of constant input and constant noise and constant busyness, how do you hear the whisper. Therefore I'm thinking one part of having Responsible Citizenship is, even for simple regular people, to allow yourself times of quiet, times of reflection, times away from your regular limelight or chaos, and then during skipping of a stone or the dragging of a branch or the raking of leaves, you could hear God's whisper meant only for you to make a difference in your corner of the world.
As a cynical commenter on this channel, I have nothing critical to say about this one. Andrew is a class act. Top notch speech. All the artists at this year's ARC conference gave thought provoking talks. Great choices.
Please check out Jimek - Radzimir Dębski from Poland. I believe he is truly an outstanding composer, who breached the gap of showing beatiful classical music to young, hip hop addicted youth. He is worth ckecking out
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Here here. Tho I disagree with some of what he said about the artistic creator being unable to restrain himself because there are forces speaking thru him. (To be born in 1883 and live beyond 40 - anyone would have plenty to say!)
Shocking. That should not happen. Music is the universal language, something that can speak to people across cultural divides. Woe betide those who tell us we can't listen to "white, male" composers, supposedly part of the hated "patriarchy": that would be ruling out some good ones, to say the least ! I also despise those who make the "cultural appropriation" argument, so a white amateur jazz pianist such as I would not be allowed to listen to or play jazz, which has been mainly - but by no means exclusively - created and performed by black American musicians. Even some black musicologists have said that certain black composers are now getting over-performed for politically correct reasons, pointing out that the vast majority of white composers never have their works performed either, or only very rarely. Dr Peterson points out in 12 More Rules For Life - Beyond Order that most classical concerts will feature works by Bach, Mozart, Beethoven and Tchaikovsky, someone has crunched all the data for concert programmes down the years.
I think that composers mix something very simple and childish to understand: managing composition techniques at the end of the road, it means nothing and has no value over time, if you really have nothing to say, or you can't say anything ....the best example to grasp, is that the composers who had something to say and in an objective way, and... not subjectively..., are very few in the history of music, and counting on the fingers of the hands,...if this is not clear,...then we are not able to truly measure the creative act.
what an utterly bizarre proposition to make after artists have been hit by covid venue closures, and the longer-term decline of gig venues and clubs. We're in a world where 50% of Spotify uploads have less than 1000 streams... but Taylor Swift is a billionaire. There are tiny, tightly knit inner circles in each art scene - all of whom have a significant educational and/or beauty advantage - and everyone else has their nose pressed up against the glass. I think it was Nassim Nicholas Taleb who wrote a chapter in one of his books about how the pre-capitalist world allowed a much better distribution of wealth and created more artistic careers, pro rata. Now, art is the fastest way to broke.
Omg after 2 decades as a composer and musician I could not agree more. Not speaking solely for myself, but 99% of those I know in the arts who do not have a significant partner bringing home the $$
There is a profound role that artists and creativity can play in the renewal of culture. Despite the fear of AI taking over the creative sectors, despite the general mood of despair and postmodern emptiness, and despite the economic challenges and immense competition artists face; they are the ones who can show us a full-bodied, holistic vision of a beautiful future and give voice to our hopes and pains. So in this conference, which has been very ‘head-y’, we wanted to recognise the immense power of artistic expression to generate the kind of motivation that will lead to visionary citizens who can change their communities for the better. Hope that helps
Nice oration, not particularly outstanding, but good nonetheless. I am subscribed to Andreyev’s YT channel and this vid appeared amongst some of his in my feed. While I, again, enjoyed the speech, and am glad to see Samuel be recognized (as representative of contemporary artists in general), I am rather disappointed to see him on this channel. In just briefly looking at some of the other speakers and ideas being hosted here, I was thoroughly perturbed by what I saw. Even before that, the very idea of “cultural decline” is a sure dog whistle (as it were). Anyway, good speech by Andreyev, not so good channel.
That would likely fall in the category of "tricksters" which he mentioned. Will be very interesting to see that play out. Hopefully the genuine will survive the artificial. Eventually.
@@scuffmacgillicutty7509 he is a great speaker, but just to emphasize my point again, go listen to some of the pieces by the composer Webern he talked about in the speech. I know my fair share of music theory and I've played the piano classically and by ear for over 20 years, and no amount of "uhm acktchewally it's very complex and you just don't have the mental tools to comprehend what he's doing" will make up for how *bad* his music sounds. Music is not 100% feeling and neither is it 100% theory. This guy composes as if the latter were true, and it shows. He's a complete hack who tries to cover his lack of talent by leveraging his technical knowledge of musical theory as well as the argument "just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's not legitimate." There's plenty of music I don't understand that still sounds great. Understanding is not required to enjoy music. *Enjoying* music is its own end.
the problem is that people these days only want pop music or what media tells them to like. Good art is often difficult to understand, and modern audiences are not willing to put in the work, technical knowledge is only a very small part of that.
@@mm-dn6oe I listen to mostly videogame music that is infinitely more complex than pop music. Listen to the Xenoblade Chronicles 3 soundtrack for a good example. Complex music is great. This dudes music is not merely complex. It’s inscrutable and communicates nothing.
@@Tohlemiach that's what i was saying. video game music is made to be easy to understand. A lot of it is great too. But modern audiences will *only* believe something is valuable if it's associated with commercial media. People make art for other reasons than entertainment, I wish our society was more open to that idea
Seeing the current state of our world as an opportunity is helpful.
yes. the globalist bunch do that expertly. maximum profit from chaos and war. peace is worthless, seemingly.
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Yes, for everything is a catalyst.
To what end, one must ask.
Catalyst gone awry is experienced as a souring.
What a beautiful thought-provoking speech.
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I’m a young music lover training to be a conductor. Your message is very inspiring in this bizarre world.
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Andreyev is great. highly suggest his channel
How inspiring! A little 10 min encouraging speech. I thank him for sharing his thoughts.
Yeah - a little shot of creative inspiration.
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What a beautiful speech.
The voice of true art is interconnected with the divine love of mankind. Listen to the artist that says change is coming for they are the first to notice. Create unselfishly, create with joy and laughter, create because you are called to by the divine. Love creation.
Thank you, Samuel. It's not your responsibility alone to energize the world's artists (which for me includes creators of the transcendent image, the haunting sound, the purposeful word, monumental building, gyroscopic dance and riveting performance). But we definitely need an agent of commanding encouragement like you. An avatar of cultural pivot, a standard-bearer for our creative ancestors' memory and legacies. To dare to pursue creative work today as a spiritual vocation, a field of academic study, a career of generativity or a mission of meaning is a brave choice, unless our cerebral cortex refuses us any choice in the matter. Some people apparently believe the makers of art are driven by saints or satan, that art is like an infectious disease, a mental illness or irresistible drive to renew the world's sublimity every time we see a sunrise over the Thames, or hear the afternoon breeze whisper the first four annunciatory notes of our 5th symphony. If art was that groaningly obvious in its origins, the torch & pitchfork reactionaries now ascendant in the liberal democracies would indeed be entitled to hand us over to the Grand Inquisitor.
Our problem isn't really external persecution or internal mediocrity (today at least), but rather the vacuum of a shared formal system or style, like the triadic tonality of Common Practice, or the meaning-propelled representations of Western perspective in painting, or the character studies suspended from a narrative arc and navigating compounded realities with intertextual innovations in contemporary fiction.
We who preceded todays starlets knew history because we wanted to, and the conventions of Handel, Schubert, Brahms, Ravel and even Stravinsky were invigorating to us. Most important we desired a future without cynicism, and art without aimlessness. We still call for Syria, Russia, Hungary, Brazil, Iran, Venezuela and China to govern without regulating their sculptors, without poisoning journalists or restraining composers. Most memorably we once opposed unprovoked wars (which kill creative workers as effectively as any other young soldiers) and condemned remote prisons that warehouse performance artists and political dissenters who protested with their only available weapon--a spray-can.
We should forever remember the misbegotten criminal judgements of history, which took hearts, minds and lives as well as destroying priceless works and ideas. Unforgivable treatment was once endured by Cervantes, Olympe de Gouge, Henry David Thoreau, Oscar Wilde, Jean Genet, Federico Garcia Lorca, Bertolt Brecht, Magnus Hirschfeld, Walter Benjamin, Dalton Trumbo, Billy Wilder, Marion Anderson, Vladimir Nabokov and Victor Jara.
Since the rise of democratic republics, composers, film-makers, graphic artists, playwrights, painters and especially novelists have tried organizing ourselves into supportive, working communities and collaborative art venues, fresh performance series and small-press bookstores. The art-world, of course, has been involuntarily globalized and commodified just like every other sphere of life.
Those who try hard to reject the banality of safe sounds and bland images, who choose authenticity and self-propulsion, can do so. But we're often further fettered by "our own side!" Meaning the average musician, visual artist, poet or prose writer or university instructor can suddenly find themselves the recipient of undeserved public derogation, feeling the sharp and frequently subjective accusations of cultural elitism, of sexual harassment, of ignoring the well-established need and consensus for diversity.
Where that's been true I sincerely believe thoughtful people have generally worked to repair the gaps, offenses and historic habits, especially when racism, homophobia or misogyny are on the table and really need to be swept off--permanently. For that I give much credit to the artists, musicians, writers and cultural activists of the 1970s, 80s, 90s, and also of the wretched Bush years. If anything the absence of a young progressive artist demographic or an organized creatives movement today is the result of abiding tension and stress fomented by the anti-art, anti-intellectual, anti-moral principle crusaders from the multinational Right Wing.
The Right has virtually guaranteed that social graces in social media are ungerminated, and instead governed by feral "immoral" provocations. Many voices on the Web today have only a vestigial interest in the human endowments of the Enlightenment, like urban sophistication, an athletic vocabulary, self-propelled interests in art, humanitarian hopes & cosmopolitan dreams for the future.
Perhaps some inspired composer could dazzle the world and lure our poor Webern-illiterate orphans to the glorious inherent tonic of contrapuntal dodecaphonic!
BRILLIANT! MUSIC TO MY HEART & MIND.
I am driven by this 'calling' as he put it. No amount of failure has been able to shake me from litterally having to create. I'm grateful to do so and hope my work will lift others in these times.
Inspiring speech. Superlative. I'm glad ARC chose to shine a light on artists. Going to be following Samuel now.
So incredibly important. Thank you, Samuel, for your encouragement and wisdom.
A lovely speech from Samuel Andreyev. I'd contend that some truly great artists, composers and writers need isolation at times for reflection and generation of ideas. My all time favourite composer, Beethoven, had a tendency to fall in love with women he knew he'd never be allowed to marry as the wealthy fathers of the women would not take a "mere" composer seriously as a potential son-in-law. Beethoven had known nothing but adversity: a drunk, abusive court musician of a father who'd drag young Ludwig out of bed at night to make him practise the keyboard; the death of four of the seven Beethoven children in infancy; a terrible flood in Bonn when Beethoven was a teenager; being the main breadwinner for the family at the age of just 18; the move to Vienna to further his career, never seeing Bonn again; the constant need for patronage in order to continue to compose; the deafness which began to creep in in his very late 20s; the bitter custody battle for his nephew Karl; Beethoven's own mood swings and suicidal thoughts over time; his presence in Vienna at the time of the siege there and so on. Had Beethoven's life been easy , he would not have been the great composer we all know and love, he is our friend for life through his great works and never lets us down. If everyone is having it too easy all the time, there may be less top class creativity. I compose jazz piano pieces, to me they are an expression of my essence and soul, and the small group of fellow pianists that are hearing them genuinely like them. I'm in my late 50s and my 56 year old cousin has just released his superb debut LP/CD in the American country genre, it's beautifully done and I hope he will get some sales. I also do artwork and post this to two of the print-on-demand websites. Here the problem is getting lost in a sea of creativity. There are some genuinely gifted artists, as well as plenty of unoriginal stuff too, and many of us do not get sales. Still, it is fun to be part of a wider community of artists and musicians, on those lower rungs of the creative hierarchy that Dr Peterson writes about so well, that leads all the way up to the likes of Bach, Mozart, Beethoven or Rembrandt, Vermeer and Van Gogh to name just a few. Keep creating everyone. At the very least, it is a great hobby, a flow activity which occupies the mind and can alleviate mental health problems and you might just come up with something that sells and earns you a good living. Just my thoughts as a dedicated amateur musician and artist.
Being a financially "successful" artist has less to do with meritocracy and "genius" and more to do with being in the right place and at the right time. The canonization of composers such as J.S Bach, W.A Mozart and L.V Beethoven is largely legacy of musicologist Heinrich Schenker, which was a product of the rise of the bourgeoisie, German nationalism and the industrial revolution.
I’m a big fan of this man. If you are a musician he does extensive breakdowns of classical composers and also my favorite frank zappa and captain beefheart on his TH-cam page.
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He's not a Zappa fan. I had this impression and asked him on a QnA once lol He finds him childish, which is reasonable, but still respects him as a composer, which I think is hard not to do.
Thank Samuel! You are sensible, fine and encouraging us!
The universe is light and music. Being an artist, you connect with life.
Sublime and eloquent presentation!
Wonderful to have strong people coming out and expressing positive ideas and motives with which to regrow our world. Thank you for this expression for music and art.
Outstanding!
A beautiful speech….he makes words sing. 👏❤️
He has a great YT channel as well!
This on 75% speed is so much more moving and well paced imo.
Andreyev's vision of a future where artists harness their unparalleled resources to engage with a global audience resonates deeply with the trajectory of human progress. The challenge for artists today is not just to create but to connect, to not just imagine but to inspire, and to not only reflect the times but to shape them. As we navigate this new artistic era, the key, as Andreyev concludes, is love - the fundamental force that drives human creativity and connection across ages.
Thanks Sam .Very inspiring
Bravo! How inspirational!
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Wellll put together speech. Very thoughtful and hitting on very deep points. Best speech yet🎉🎉
Great to see him here! Samuel Andreyev's music channel in TH-cam is very insightful.
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The power of music is to transcend space & time - what a beautiful thing to say. I started hearing the interstellar soundtrack in my head when he said that. ❤
Bravo!
"Make visible what, without you, might perhaps never have been seen." -Robert Bresson, Notes on the Cinematograph
Great to hear from an artist with a positive understanding of today and a vision for tomorrow!
Glad you enjoyed it!
6:24 Genuine creativity
It's musicking that allows the music to exist in the first place. The relations and dialogue of audience, performers, composers, administrators, promoters, directors, concert venue owners, economy, web infrastructure, educators and advertisers that allow creativity to flourish in the first place. Creativity and artistry isn't an individualized activity, but is the product of the confluence of social, cultural, economic and political forces.
Good point. I liked Brian Eno's concept of "scenius" as opposed to "genius" - the genius of a scene, which includes lots of artists hanging out and chatting, listening to each other's stuff, but yeah, venues, audiences, promoters, agents and so on too.
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I really like Andreyev, and this was an amazing talk. I know he's not the greatest Frank Zappa fan, but Zappa always talked about this issue: people who make an industry out of music are making business decisions, meanwhile he wanted to make music he liked to listen to. While we have Patreon, Bandcamp, Subscribestar, and the internet as a whole, they didnt have it back in the day. If a radio station didn't want your music to be played, you're screwed. It's never been easier to be a musician. In many ways, life has never been easier, yet we're too lost in complaining about it that we forget to appreciate the things our times give us.
Great positive attitude, thank you very much. Unfortunately, major parts of the world today don't have free access to music and art as he describes, as they live behind the great firewall or in similarly restricted circumstances.
This inspirational story is Art!
Wonderfully said.
Thank you!
Powerful and superbly articulated. Bravo! Btw, Samuel’s TH-cam channel is excellent.
Very similar to Roger Scruton! Thank you for that. He sees beauty as a value, as important as truth or goodness, that can offer “consolation in sorrow and affirmation in joy”, therefore showing human life to be worthwhile.
Brave speech
Wow! Is TH-cam taking many of these videos down? I went back to the video on protecting children and it is no longer available….
Inspiring!
Great! :) Wish it was longer but glad i found this!
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Did him dirty with that thumbnail
What a statement !!!! I can only subscribe to this one ….!!!!!❤🎉❤🎉🎉🎉….. Viktor Frankl….,,,
Sometimes… you can’t have great art without tragedy and isolation. The reason why a lot of artists lack talent today is because they all have similar life experiences. They all seem afraid to step out of the box and do something controversial.
Maybe nowadays, stepping out of the box means returning to more harmony and beauty? To something we want to walk to?
"...it's only for incidental interest that we relate what a poet writes to his own life. Byron wrote a poem to a maid of Athens, and there really was a maid of Athens.... Wordsworth wrote some lovely poems about a girl named Lucy, but he made Lucy up. But Lucy is just as real as the maid of Athens." -Northrop Frye
And whatever Shakespeare was, he sure didn't have the specific life experiences of all his plays. But he was great (like all artists are) at using conventions and ready-made stories. Something something blahblahblah the original poet is simply the one that is more profoundly imitative.
That or they think controversy is the whole point. I think a lot of artists don't have anything to say that wasn't put in their heads by someone else who said it better.
@@davidpo5517 I think that composers mix something very simple and childish to understand: managing composition techniques at the end of the road, it means nothing and has no value over time, if you really have nothing to say, or you can't say anything ....the best example to grasp, is that the composers who had something to say and in an objective way, and... not subjectively..., are very few in the history of music, and counting on the fingers of the hands,...if this is not clear,...then we are not able to truly measure the creative act.
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As Gide put it: "One doesn't discover new lands without consenting to lose sight, for a very long time, of the shore." *Les faux-monnayeurs* [The Counterfeiters] (1925). That time with no sight of the shore can be very long - indeed as Samuel's story illustrates, it can last a lifetime. So the approval and support of others may be something you should not expect to experience.
Suggestion for people who are looking for live music. During Covid, someone in my neighborhood applied for a grant from the neighborhood association to arrange concerts on various people’s front lawns. We have been treated to everything from rock and roll to classical timpani to Japanese opera. I realize that Covid is less of an issue now but live music tends to be rather expensive and it’s been such a lovely way of building community and since many of the musicians live nearby, we have gotten a real appreciation of some of our neighbors. If this has not been happening near you, feel free to organize it.
It was probably his solace.what a story thank you for sharing it.
I am sure more feeling and less thinking is always wonderful in the Arts.
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Art should be beautiful again.
Dance can also be a beautiful expression of art.
A platform they can be seen on could help?
In music the courage of a Wim Winters who is trying to pry the young from the mythos ( tyranny) of the conservatory is perhaps an example....
The thing about art and artist that everyone seems to ignore is that you have to be good.
You got to have actual skill to separate yourself from the none artist. Then to become actuality great, you got to become good enough to standout from your fellow artists.
In todays world it seems like 99 percent of "artists" have absolutely no skill at all. Yes they may have a message but if thats all it took then everyone would be a artist and if tbat was the case then art wouldn't be anything.
Quite sure artists don’t dare to have children.. young people in general, but especially artists. I’m 31 - and know that for a fact by simply having friends my age, a sizeable number of artists included. Not even closely trying to say these are the worst of times, but this is not a realistically optimistic image of the role the artist can play in todays society (one of abundance yet in an apocalipse-infused paralysis throughout society as a whole). This “artist nowadays are too timid” argument is simply a narrowminded argument, even if not in ill will.
I’d bet two most prominent reasons the value of art in society dropped drastically are
1) we have all collectively blurred the distinction between inspiration and entertainment / art and content / meaningful stories and empty catchphrases
2) there is no mention of personal responsibility for educating your children into arts of any kind (not for the sake of them becoming artists themselves, but to be able to appreciate it)… no mention of it even on conservative events like this one.
“Try to educate your children to appreciate art even if all the Rishi Sunaks in the world swap what is left of it inside schools for a bunch more of algebra. Because it is a parental duty, especially in the world of ones and zeros. In that way leave them protected from a lack of will for meaning seeking” - would be a much more optimistic note to end on.
nevertheless, good listen - thank you!
I partly agree with you, but on point 2) this really is a case of what family you happen to be born into. If you are lucky enough to have creative parents and raised in this environment you will be more likely to not only appreciate the arts but end up in a creative career yourself. My father was a naturally gifted painter as a teenager and made amazing life like pieces but his parents discouraged this and wanted him to study to get a "good job". When I was a teenager I remember visiting my grandmother one day and while playing in her back shed I found all his paintings just sitting there collecting dust, not proudly displayed in her house. I felt very sad. I never saw my father paint as an adult ever.
I find it interesting that young children are given paint and paper and encouraged to play and explore but by the time we reach adulthood this has all been knocked out of us. That is because many societies, cultures, and parents in particular still hold the belief that art is just a hobby, it is not a "real job" and we should be contributing to society according to their set of values. It is not until or unless you start making a lot of money from it that they start to take you seriously.
As for the school system, they do not care for teaching arts because they want you to become a reliable tax paying citizen with a traditional job for the rest of your life.
Set the speed down to 85% or so and you've got a good tempo.
what is that plexi-glass sheet for instance at 0:48 for? I see them all over the place but actually don't have a clue as to what they do
teleprompter. you can't see the words from behind it. the person speaking can see the words projected into the glass like a hologram
@@ClintLock1 what? That's dope af😲
@@lubormrazek5545thank you 😁😁 your reaction proper made me smile, ear to ear 😝👍
I hope there's more going on in the background. Talking about things is yesterday's thing. Its time to act.
We agree. Ideas should generate action. What do you think we should do?
You guys have influence, power and capital. I suggest you bring together a team of lawyer's and start holding people accountable. The evidence is there and have been for long, it shouldn't be too hard. It will however attract attention from "unelected misanthropists" so its not without risk. If the law fails, there's only one thing left to do. You can't comply your way out of tyranny.
Remember, each of you probably have a major following many of which would be willing to actually fight for the freedom we've worked so hard to achieve. If Jordan tomorrow decided to encourage everyone to grab their pitchforks and torches, a majority probably would. You have the people on your side. @@arc_conference
the cessation of the Impressionist painters from the academy system
"authentic artist" ... my mind responds that this is probably interesting for almost everyone, but not me. I'm not artistic; I don't sing, I can't paint, I like music yet lyrics confuse me, I don't connect with poetry -- much in the Psalms, Proverbs, Song of Songs and other scripture has to be explained to me, and after 6 decades of the world being exposed to RAP I still don't see it as music (I typically class it as loud garbage).
However I do believe that I am creative, doing what I can to find solutions to many issues that others have. I've also been invited on several occasions to speak from the pulpit (as a layman) and have had the small blessing to impact a handful of people. So how does Andreyev's talk represent ARC and resonate with non-artistic listeners? Many believe there are about 2-dozen spiritual gifts that people have, while no one expect a person to exhibit all of them. If we are created beings, how do we demonstrate that communication among the peoples in our sphere of influence? I think the answer begins with listening, and I also believe that God often chooses not to shout, but to whisper. So if you are existing in a typhoon of constant input and constant noise and constant busyness, how do you hear the whisper. Therefore I'm thinking one part of having Responsible Citizenship is, even for simple regular people, to allow yourself times of quiet, times of reflection, times away from your regular limelight or chaos, and then during skipping of a stone or the dragging of a branch or the raking of leaves, you could hear God's whisper meant only for you to make a difference in your corner of the world.
As a cynical commenter on this channel, I have nothing critical to say about this one. Andrew is a class act. Top notch speech. All the artists at this year's ARC conference gave thought provoking talks. Great choices.
Please check out Jimek - Radzimir Dębski from Poland. I believe he is truly an outstanding composer, who breached the gap of showing beatiful classical music to young, hip hop addicted youth. He is worth ckecking out
Read “The Abolition of Man” by C.S. Lewis for a discussion of sublimity and Truth. 61 pages, very dense.
We second this recommendation
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Revelation time of Jesus Christ
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"...why we dare to have children"
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Tho I disagree with some of what he said about the artistic creator being unable to restrain himself because there are forces speaking thru him. (To be born in 1883 and live beyond 40 - anyone would have plenty to say!)
As an orchestral/choral composer I have found myself recently "sidelined" or "canceled" because I am merely an old, white guy.
Shocking. That should not happen. Music is the universal language, something that can speak to people across cultural divides. Woe betide those who tell us we can't listen to "white, male" composers, supposedly part of the hated "patriarchy": that would be ruling out some good ones, to say the least ! I also despise those who make the "cultural appropriation" argument, so a white amateur jazz pianist such as I would not be allowed to listen to or play jazz, which has been mainly - but by no means exclusively - created and performed by black American musicians. Even some black musicologists have said that certain black composers are now getting over-performed for politically correct reasons, pointing out that the vast majority of white composers never have their works performed either, or only very rarely. Dr Peterson points out in 12 More Rules For Life - Beyond Order that most classical concerts will feature works by Bach, Mozart, Beethoven and Tchaikovsky, someone has crunched all the data for concert programmes down the years.
I think that composers mix something very simple and childish to understand: managing composition techniques at the end of the road, it means nothing and has no value over time, if you really have nothing to say, or you can't say anything ....the best example to grasp, is that the composers who had something to say and in an objective way, and... not subjectively..., are very few in the history of music, and counting on the fingers of the hands,...if this is not clear,...then we are not able to truly measure the creative act.
I never get why people use the german term at all if they can't pronounce it in a way people can understand it
what an utterly bizarre proposition to make after artists have been hit by covid venue closures, and the longer-term decline of gig venues and clubs. We're in a world where 50% of Spotify uploads have less than 1000 streams... but Taylor Swift is a billionaire. There are tiny, tightly knit inner circles in each art scene - all of whom have a significant educational and/or beauty advantage - and everyone else has their nose pressed up against the glass. I think it was Nassim Nicholas Taleb who wrote a chapter in one of his books about how the pre-capitalist world allowed a much better distribution of wealth and created more artistic careers, pro rata. Now, art is the fastest way to broke.
Omg after 2 decades as a composer and musician I could not agree more. Not speaking solely for myself, but 99% of those I know in the arts who do not have a significant partner bringing home the $$
There are hundreds of thousands of tracks uploaded to Spotify, daily. Something to consider.
Very shallow. I don't know why, but I expected more after coming here from the community recommendation
I don't understand the point.
There is a profound role that artists and creativity can play in the renewal of culture. Despite the fear of AI taking over the creative sectors, despite the general mood of despair and postmodern emptiness, and despite the economic challenges and immense competition artists face; they are the ones who can show us a full-bodied, holistic vision of a beautiful future and give voice to our hopes and pains. So in this conference, which has been very ‘head-y’, we wanted to recognise the immense power of artistic expression to generate the kind of motivation that will lead to visionary citizens who can change their communities for the better.
Hope that helps
Nice oration, not particularly outstanding, but good nonetheless. I am subscribed to Andreyev’s YT channel and this vid appeared amongst some of his in my feed. While I, again, enjoyed the speech, and am glad to see Samuel be recognized (as representative of contemporary artists in general), I am rather disappointed to see him on this channel. In just briefly looking at some of the other speakers and ideas being hosted here, I was thoroughly perturbed by what I saw. Even before that, the very idea of “cultural decline” is a sure dog whistle (as it were). Anyway, good speech by Andreyev, not so good channel.
Well, except for the fact AI exists.
That would likely fall in the category of "tricksters" which he mentioned. Will be very interesting to see that play out. Hopefully the genuine will survive the artificial. Eventually.
creation as a means to transcend a horrible reality
"Modalities"
Wow, pretentious much?
His hands are very distracting...
Unbelievably naive. I strongly suspect art will not be permitted under the next caliphate.
Only if we collectively allow that to happen. It won’t.
@@jaredfairfieldsoljenitkin was a ortodox church man, slavophile and nazi colaborator who never worked on a gulag
There is no caliphate. You just need an excuse to fail . . .
In a caliphate, art created in the exultation of Islam is not only permitted, but celebrated
Isn't this the one guy who writes music that sounds like an orchestra's tuning session? Don't really care what he has to say about art.
I don't know anything about his music but he is inspiring in talking about art.
@@scuffmacgillicutty7509 he is a great speaker, but just to emphasize my point again, go listen to some of the pieces by the composer Webern he talked about in the speech. I know my fair share of music theory and I've played the piano classically and by ear for over 20 years, and no amount of "uhm acktchewally it's very complex and you just don't have the mental tools to comprehend what he's doing" will make up for how *bad* his music sounds. Music is not 100% feeling and neither is it 100% theory. This guy composes as if the latter were true, and it shows.
He's a complete hack who tries to cover his lack of talent by leveraging his technical knowledge of musical theory as well as the argument "just because you don't understand it doesn't mean it's not legitimate." There's plenty of music I don't understand that still sounds great. Understanding is not required to enjoy music. *Enjoying* music is its own end.
the problem is that people these days only want pop music or what media tells them to like. Good art is often difficult to understand, and modern audiences are not willing to put in the work, technical knowledge is only a very small part of that.
@@mm-dn6oe I listen to mostly videogame music that is infinitely more complex than pop music. Listen to the Xenoblade Chronicles 3 soundtrack for a good example. Complex music is great. This dudes music is not merely complex. It’s inscrutable and communicates nothing.
@@Tohlemiach that's what i was saying. video game music is made to be easy to understand. A lot of it is great too. But modern audiences will *only* believe something is valuable if it's associated with commercial media. People make art for other reasons than entertainment, I wish our society was more open to that idea