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Nice patch mossman, you do good work. I know it's labor intensive, and a pain in the butt, but it is something you don't see alot of on line. Everyone wants to take a really nice frome and put a really nice body on it and well-a. That's OK, but it's nice to see a crafsman work his skills and save something not many can. Consider me inspired.
Man I’m glad I ran into your channel again ! I know you wont remember me after deleting all my old videos but I use to customize all the toy dodge rams. Glad to see how much the channels grown !
Just went through this on a 2005 F-150. Enclosed frame rails, like most trucks made after 1999 or so. More rigid torsionally, which is always a good thing, but salt traps 100%. For me, it was either fabricate a section of frame rail or let a perfectly good low mileage truck go to waste. And I wasn’t about to do that. I did not have access to a large metal brake; I cut it out precisely on a CNC plasma table in my home shop from 3/16 plate I had laying around. Even then, the CNC plasma wasn’t necessary, but it was convenient.
@mossman381 yeah, I can imagine. Got alot of paint fading here in north Texas because of the sun, but we're fortunate to be limited to some minor surface rust. This repair looks great though, and hopefully it holds up for a long time.
My 02 is still at my mechanics. Close to 3 months I think. He just did one frame patch. Has another to do. Then I think I get it back. He has the new driveshaft on it.
To do stuff like this right it takes time. Some of the tools I have save me a bunch of time but not sure it should take 3 months. It's never a good idea to rush a repair.
I thought about buying an old S10 like this one and fixing it up. Looking at yours...well...I don't think I'll get one. Plus, I had a 2002 Silverado, and it was badly rusted like your S10. I like Chevys, and have owned a couple of their trucks over the years, plus I know how to work on them, but they just rust so BAD. Ironically, my son owns a 2008 Taco, but his frame is rusted though too! And that was what I was going to get instead! So I'm saving up money to get something newer and buying it out west where they don't rust so bad.
They sell frame kits to fix Toyota trucks. That is kind of where I got my idea of wrapping the frame. I have not seen any frame survive Wisconsin winters without some damage. I have seen semi-trailers, dump trucks and semi-trucks with rusted out frames.
@@mossman381 Thanks for the info, I'll have to look for those frame kits. Welding on a frame may be beyond my capabilities though and I only have a cheapo flux core welder.
I wouldn't do frame work with a cheap welder. You would probably have to disassemble some stuff as well. Then you get to deal with all the other stuff that is rusted. It can be a big can of worms as they say.
@@davidgriffin14 I can't say it's fun working with rust. Makes everything much harder than it needs to be. It does help to wash a vehicle in the winter. I doubt this truck was washed at all.
The torsion bar is the spring on the front of most older 4x4 GM trucks and the HD trucks still today. It actually twists as the suspension moves. Not sure how else to describe it.
If a torsion bar fails, you will be riding on bump stops if you have any. If you crank them up to far you will have no suspension travel and get a bad ride. I have never seen a torsion bar fail.
I think Dodge cars in the 70s used torsion bars. They must have figured out how to make them better. All the GM heavy duty trucks use torsion bars. I run a 1000lbs snowplow on the front of my 2009 2500HD with torsion bars.
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Man, you must really love that truck. Nice repair job.
Love is a strong word. Thanks
Nice patch mossman, you do good work. I know it's labor intensive, and a pain in the butt, but it is something you don't see alot of on line. Everyone wants to take a really nice frome and put a really nice body on it and well-a. That's OK, but it's nice to see a crafsman work his skills and save something not many can. Consider me inspired.
Honestly, it's probably too good of work for what it is but I can't help myself.
it sure helps to have all the right tools.
You got that right.
Man I’m glad I ran into your channel again ! I know you wont remember me after deleting all my old videos but I use to customize all the toy dodge rams. Glad to see how much the channels grown !
@@PeeDeeFarmer Your name seems familiar.
@@mossman381 I believe I went by like Weston m
@@PeeDeeFarmer Ok, I guess it's not familiar then. 🤔
@@mossman381 was along time ago I believe you had a video of like a 4 thousand series tractor on tracks in cranberries at the time
I forgot about your other shop with the machines. I remember when you first showed them.
@@davidgriffin14 Really helps having some good tools to work with. Saves a bunch of time.
Nice job!
Thanks!
Just went through this on a 2005 F-150. Enclosed frame rails, like most trucks made after 1999 or so. More rigid torsionally, which is always a good thing, but salt traps 100%. For me, it was either fabricate a section of frame rail or let a perfectly good low mileage truck go to waste. And I wasn’t about to do that. I did not have access to a large metal brake; I cut it out precisely on a CNC plasma table in my home shop from 3/16 plate I had laying around. Even then, the CNC plasma wasn’t necessary, but it was convenient.
Would love to add a CNC plasma to our shop but they are not cheap.
Nice patch work looks great
@@superdutyman9186 Should hold up for a while.
Looks awesome. Thank God i don't live in a rust- prone place
@@devonburkhalter9840 I hate rust
@mossman381 yeah, I can imagine. Got alot of paint fading here in north Texas because of the sun, but we're fortunate to be limited to some minor surface rust. This repair looks great though, and hopefully it holds up for a long time.
My 02 is still at my mechanics. Close to 3 months I think. He just did one frame patch. Has another to do. Then I think I get it back. He has the new driveshaft on it.
To do stuff like this right it takes time. Some of the tools I have save me a bunch of time but not sure it should take 3 months. It's never a good idea to rush a repair.
@mossman381 he's real busy and knows I have 2 other vehicles available.
I thought about buying an old S10 like this one and fixing it up. Looking at yours...well...I don't think I'll get one. Plus, I had a 2002 Silverado, and it was badly rusted like your S10. I like Chevys, and have owned a couple of their trucks over the years, plus I know how to work on them, but they just rust so BAD. Ironically, my son owns a 2008 Taco, but his frame is rusted though too! And that was what I was going to get instead! So I'm saving up money to get something newer and buying it out west where they don't rust so bad.
They sell frame kits to fix Toyota trucks. That is kind of where I got my idea of wrapping the frame. I have not seen any frame survive Wisconsin winters without some damage. I have seen semi-trailers, dump trucks and semi-trucks with rusted out frames.
@@mossman381 Thanks for the info, I'll have to look for those frame kits. Welding on a frame may be beyond my capabilities though and I only have a cheapo flux core welder.
I wouldn't do frame work with a cheap welder. You would probably have to disassemble some stuff as well. Then you get to deal with all the other stuff that is rusted. It can be a big can of worms as they say.
Hello mossman, i watched some of your older videos (loved them) and was wondering what happened to darth? just curious.
@@Mighty_Goos That truck was sold. I do miss that truck. I didn't really want to sell it but life happens I guess.
@@mossman381 it's sad but nice to know it has a new chance at life, hopefully the new owner gives it the best care❤🩹
I can't imagine working on rusty cars. It must be a royal pain in the azz. I'm glad i live in a desert where we don't have to deal with it.
@@davidgriffin14 I can't say it's fun working with rust. Makes everything much harder than it needs to be. It does help to wash a vehicle in the winter. I doubt this truck was washed at all.
Will you be vertical welding. Back when I was toying away thinking that I could build a model a street rod I read frame rail welds should be angled.
I did my best to burn the weld into the new frame and old frame. I think I did a good job. Didn't have a lot of room on the inside but think I got it.
What is that torsion bar?
The torsion bar is the spring on the front of most older 4x4 GM trucks and the HD trucks still today. It actually twists as the suspension moves. Not sure how else to describe it.
@@mossman381 ok . I'm old. Our 57 dodge used them. Quite the ride when they snapped.
If a torsion bar fails, you will be riding on bump stops if you have any. If you crank them up to far you will have no suspension travel and get a bad ride. I have never seen a torsion bar fail.
@mossman381 dodge and plymouths of the 50s used for front suspension. Breaks were fairly common.
I think Dodge cars in the 70s used torsion bars. They must have figured out how to make them better. All the GM heavy duty trucks use torsion bars. I run a 1000lbs snowplow on the front of my 2009 2500HD with torsion bars.