Damage = 1* (1+ (Crit dmg + weak point + range + burst) )* (1+ atk buff) to briefly understand this formula, any buffs on atk, will also affect crit dmg, weak point, range, burst and your base attack value but the buff on crit dmg will only affect crit dmg itself, not to mention that crit rate will reduce the effectiveness of crit dmg
About that last point, wouldnt a higher crit rate benefit crit dmg? Or are you saying that because crit rate is below 100%, you arent always going to benefit from crit dmg?
@@Rezagard Base critical rate is 15%, and modifier is 1.5X. As described by Blu, the compartment for "Crit dmg" is a multiplier category that is much less as "Atk buff", as it is only a additive subset of the formula's prefix. Even if it is 100% critical chance, a +20% "critical damage" is still far less in overall final damage than a +20% "Atk". Because the "Atk Buff" simply multiples all the components in the formula's prefix.
@@qwp1026 Isn't this beside the point he is asking about? I think he is just trying to parse the sentence "not to mention that crit rate will reduce the effectiveness of crit dmg", which sounds like getting crit rate reduces the effectiveness of crit dmg, but surely it is the other way around. Crit rate would make crit dmg more consistent? I assume the crit dmg isn't applied if the hit isn't a crit and then if it does crit you get it as the additive component. But yeah ATK sounds like it is just busted as you need to get crit dmg AND crit rate for an additive source compared to just ATK for a multiplicative. Edit: It is worth noting that crit dmg with that formulae is worth less if: 1. you hit weakpoints and 2. are within burst, as they're added to the same pool so the crit dmg is diluted, which is kind of insane to think about, surely there is no way this is how it is supposed to be.
For simulation just get the reload buff : -Chance to reload when magazine is empty -Chance to heal when megazine is empty -Chance to deal dmg when megazine is empty Get this if u lucky -Chance to block dmg All other buff is just extra. With these buff u can do stage even when you are behind 20k power requirements
Regarding the simulation, here is tip. If you're about to lose a stage on simulation you can pause it and press retry to reset the fight. This way you can try different strats like focusing down the boss or killing some of the mobs etc. It can make difference because sometimes the aggro doesn't work in your favor. Good luck.
Someone said the NGA post on dmg calc has been translated and posted on Reddit. I couldn’t find it would anyone please link in comments and I’ll pin? Also ✈️
Hi hi TimaeuSS 大佬, really love your Nikke video content! Regarding the damage formula, is that the NGA thread you are referring to? I cannot post link in comment but the title is searchable "[讨论]nikke伤害计算公式疑似bug，官方存在欺诈性质的诱导玩家氪金行为。" The author did mention this has not been confirmed by the developer because it may be an unintended bug. The community hope Tencent and Shiftup give some answers as it has been controversial in consumer act. There are many followup analysis threads and we think they really need to give the players answers.
Off topic from the video but is it a good idea to pair Volume and Dolla in the same team together? Their skill 2 both have cd reduction, and I'm not sure if both could stack or 1 would be ignored meaning wasted.
yep. it's actually really convenient. What's actually really good about it is that you can literally spam Burst skills because of it and really helpful for certain nikkes that has long cooldowns on their bursts. Vesti, Isabelle, and Mihara are just some of the Nikkes that I could think of that would highly benefit from them.
Watching your video: pulled luddy and stopped rerolling->pulls liter afterwards and says "fook it" Watch videos for event: pull helm Watch videos today about team comps: pull scarlet Uhm, thank you sir for sprinkling a lil magic on my account...🤣🤣🤣
Have there been any news on the character view episode bug? The one where you can watch the episode, but get an error afterwards and not get the gems? Whenever I went back to each character, the episode was marked as complete, but never got the gems. Thats a good chunck of gems gone bai bai.
hopefully someone knows but are the limited time skill upgrade packs worth? they’re really expensive and i don’t know how many skills they upgrade per pack or how many characters
My best attackers are privaty (soon limit break 2), SW, harran-helm, idk about playing 2 sniper rifles in chain privaty, harran, helm. What you think? (And supports i use liter, novel)
I think you need to upgrade your video because it's hard for me to read the skills or see anything even on full screen. I dont feel like logging into the game so much because it takes a long to for me to load the game on my phone. Id like to pause the video from time to time just to read what the skills can do. but anyways thx for the guide guess look into it later since nikke is a new game barly.
@TimaeuSS Did you covered what to do when you reach lvl 80 ? As I do think that many people may not know. As well for example if I was using Scarlet as my main and want to reset it will skills mats as well come back ? Or maybe I badly went wrong up wit my team building strategy then O.o
Is helm any good? I managed to get her to 3 stars when I’m just goofing around with the free tix and gems. I’m using vol, admi, scarlet, harran and helm now.
She's pretty meh, as the calcs say, crit is pretty garbage right now, and her main value is providing 100% uptime on her crit buff and her lifesteal, in my testing (shooting range) another dmg dealer with atk buffs like drake increased my dmg by a lot compared to her, even when Im using the 100% crit uptime trick. It just goes to show how garbage crit is right now.
I assume if we get more crit/cdm characters, volume would eventually outpace dolla but yeah dolla would be better currently. Though both volume and dolla have synergistic buffs so both on a team are good too
Actually.. i dont think so as in nikke end game content scarlet is considered as one of the top dps out there on cn bt. Diluc on the other hand is like not even good (just decently not even reached average) when the game launched so yeah i wouldnt agree with ur opinion as prydwen tier list is based on end game cbt content
diluc was never good, only considered good because nobody knew how to properly theorycraft around elements and nobody really understood things like ICD and reverse vaping when the game first came out. whereas damage calculation in nikke is more simple and people have been able to test the numbers for a long time now
@@iamabotthatstartsarguments7756 that's exactly my point, nikke is still in it's theoretical phase much like genshin 1.0 where Benett and xiangling were lower tier charas because of lack of testings . So naturally players will glorify the character which looks and feels strong out of the box, and that is scarlet/diluc
@@luv.fluffychan I can't believe this diluc slander right now, if u are a day 1 player u probably had diluc in your #1 wishlist for a month. Content creators, rerollers, and account sellers profited from diluc content like crazy just because they shitted on top tier charas like xiangling and Bennett
Is simulation room bugged? Clearing highest floor will not give rewards for previous floors. So unfortunately have to start from fl 1 and do them all separately for max rewards.
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Damage = 1* (1+ (Crit dmg + weak point + range + burst) )* (1+ atk buff)
to briefly understand this formula,
any buffs on atk, will also affect crit dmg, weak point, range, burst and your base attack value
but the buff on crit dmg will only affect crit dmg itself, not to mention that crit rate will reduce the effectiveness of crit dmg
it *HAS* to be a bug (or an oversight), there's no way they want people to skip limited crit nikke banners
About that last point, wouldnt a higher crit rate benefit crit dmg? Or are you saying that because crit rate is below 100%, you arent always going to benefit from crit dmg?
@@Rezagard Base critical rate is 15%, and modifier is 1.5X. As described by Blu, the compartment for "Crit dmg" is a multiplier category that is much less as "Atk buff", as it is only a additive subset of the formula's prefix. Even if it is 100% critical chance, a +20% "critical damage" is still far less in overall final damage than a +20% "Atk". Because the "Atk Buff" simply multiples all the components in the formula's prefix.
@@qwp1026 i see. And about novel's burst skill making 1 enemy recieve increased dmg, where would that fit in the equation?
@@qwp1026 Isn't this beside the point he is asking about? I think he is just trying to parse the sentence "not to mention that crit rate will reduce the effectiveness of crit dmg", which sounds like getting crit rate reduces the effectiveness of crit dmg, but surely it is the other way around. Crit rate would make crit dmg more consistent? I assume the crit dmg isn't applied if the hit isn't a crit and then if it does crit you get it as the additive component. But yeah ATK sounds like it is just busted as you need to get crit dmg AND crit rate for an additive source compared to just ATK for a multiplicative.
Edit: It is worth noting that crit dmg with that formulae is worth less if: 1. you hit weakpoints and 2. are within burst, as they're added to the same pool so the crit dmg is diluted, which is kind of insane to think about, surely there is no way this is how it is supposed to be.
For simulation just get the reload buff :
-Chance to reload when magazine is empty
-Chance to heal when megazine is empty
-Chance to deal dmg when megazine is empty
Get this if u lucky
-Chance to block dmg
All other buff is just extra. With these buff u can do stage even when you are behind 20k power requirements
Regarding the simulation, here is tip.
If you're about to lose a stage on simulation you can pause it and press retry to reset the fight. This way you can try different strats like focusing down the boss or killing some of the mobs etc. It can make difference because sometimes the aggro doesn't work in your favor. Good luck.
Someone said the NGA post on dmg calc has been translated and posted on Reddit. I couldn’t find it would anyone please link in comments and I’ll pin?
Also ✈️
Tim's gems always goes up whenever he drop a new vids🤣
Whale bruh
Swiping to the top (maybe he feels he needs to in order to stay up to date with his vids)
TH-cam money XD went from 15k sub to 32k, sponsored creator too
Gacha creators usually just recycle the money made from videos and people giving it away.
I upgraded Ludmilla S2 so I won't use her taunt I guess, ahhhhhhhh please fix it Shift Up!!!!
Hi hi TimaeuSS 大佬, really love your Nikke video content!
Regarding the damage formula, is that the NGA thread you are referring to? I cannot post link in comment but the title is searchable "[讨论]nikke伤害计算公式疑似bug，官方存在欺诈性质的诱导玩家氪金行为。"
The author did mention this has not been confirmed by the developer because it may be an unintended bug. The community hope Tencent and Shiftup give some answers as it has been controversial in consumer act. There are many followup analysis threads and we think they really need to give the players answers.
I'm going for skills that help out the team the most first: attack buff, reload buff, etc.
This only works if you P2W and already got all the team comp.
Off topic from the video but is it a good idea to pair Volume and Dolla in the same team together?
Their skill 2 both have cd reduction, and I'm not sure if both could stack or 1 would be ignored meaning wasted.
Both Stacks, Because they are need in comps with Isabel
yep. it's actually really convenient. What's actually really good about it is that you can literally spam Burst skills because of it and really helpful for certain nikkes that has long cooldowns on their bursts. Vesti, Isabelle, and Mihara are just some of the Nikkes that I could think of that would highly benefit from them.
Blessed be our savior, lord Timeuss of the alchemy table!
14 units in the Sync device. Scarlet power is almost 8k. Lmao. Whale.
This is something I was wondering about so really appreciate this video!
And here I was about to build a crit stacking team.
Watching your video: pulled luddy and stopped rerolling->pulls liter afterwards and says "fook it"
Watch videos for event: pull helm
Watch videos today about team comps: pull scarlet
Uhm, thank you sir for sprinkling a lil magic on my account...🤣🤣🤣
🌸🌹We would receive gracious tongue and be imparted profound wisdom!🌹🌸
Thanks for the insight!
I used most on Volume's crit buff
finished the vid rip TwT
Out of curiousity.
Why shouldn't we upgrade Burst Skills? Since they use a different Skill Upgrade Material then Passive Skills.
i think it's because it's harder to get one compared to other skill material
Just upgrade your main unit burst to level 4 1st.
The harder one is level 5++
I would upgrade bursts that have attack up to all allies for example N102
Have there been any news on the character view episode bug? The one where you can watch the episode, but get an error afterwards and not get the gems?
Whenever I went back to each character, the episode was marked as complete, but never got the gems.
Thats a good chunck of gems gone bai bai.
I really wish they would fix the claiming bug. There are so many gifts and other items I have claimed and they aren't there
now this is what I've been waiting for~
hopefully someone knows but are the limited time skill upgrade packs worth? they’re really expensive and i don’t know how many skills they upgrade per pack or how many characters
My best attackers are privaty (soon limit break 2), SW, harran-helm, idk about playing 2 sniper rifles in chain privaty, harran, helm. What you think? (And supports i use liter, novel)
I think you need to upgrade your video because it's hard for me to read the skills or see anything even on full screen. I dont feel like logging into the game so much because it takes a long to for me to load the game on my phone. Id like to pause the video from time to time just to read what the skills can do. but anyways thx for the guide guess look into it later since nikke is a new game barly.
Wich one the best for damage dealer, helm or harran?? Still cant decide which one sniper to choose
what's the meaning of the icon change to lightning (⚡) in skill 3?
where you get orange gear?
$100 pack comes with t9 gear boxes
Insta clicked this while watching ur latest vod
lol
QQ: how your ldplayer runs so fast? You have any special configuration? :(
Sigh it seems burst levels are stuck at lv 1 values even after leveling it?
Thank you
Do attack buffs stack with other nikkes?
@TimaeuSS Did you covered what to do when you reach lvl 80 ? As I do think that many people may not know. As well for example if I was using Scarlet as my main and want to reset it will skills mats as well come back ? Or maybe I badly went wrong up wit my team building strategy then O.o
Level your purple limit broken units and put your SSRs in the synchro device, they will be synched above lv 80 even if they aren't limit broken.
skill mats are not refunded when you reset level
Is helm any good? I managed to get her to 3 stars when I’m just goofing around with the free tix and gems. I’m using vol, admi, scarlet, harran and helm now.
She's pretty meh, as the calcs say, crit is pretty garbage right now, and her main value is providing 100% uptime on her crit buff and her lifesteal, in my testing (shooting range) another dmg dealer with atk buffs like drake increased my dmg by a lot compared to her, even when Im using the 100% crit uptime trick. It just goes to show how garbage crit is right now.
What skill should I priority on any nikke, is there a website guide for this priority?
Honestly just read which skill you like the most and look at their stats and what the nikke good for
I upgraded my Noah 2nd skill (:
Off topic: you have a very strong roster. So jelly
power of the credit card
Well, shit, I've been wasting my mats then.
i have 2 reroll account
1. Liter + Haran
2. Volume + Scarlet
which one is the best to continue?
sorry for my bad english
both really good ask this game official discord
Is the burst skill level bug fixed yet?
Well either way my Rupee is getting T10 skills first lul
nvm then i posted link and it got deleted
Soooo... is Dolla actually more effective than Volume as offensive buffer ?
I assume if we get more crit/cdm characters, volume would eventually outpace dolla but yeah dolla would be better currently. Though both volume and dolla have synergistic buffs so both on a team are good too
@@Applejuiceisxxx Okay okay, thanks !
@@Applejuiceisxxx and i want to have dolla to change my noah coz her cd is too longgg :v , at any condition i use rupee to change noah
@@Applejuiceisxxx someone said that even even with 100% crit rate, +20 atk will give higher damage than +20% crit dmg
scarlet feels like a diluc right now, the undisputed top DPS no matter what comp, but will be overshadowed in maybe 3-4 patches
Actually.. i dont think so as in nikke end game content scarlet is considered as one of the top dps out there on cn bt. Diluc on the other hand is like not even good (just decently not even reached average) when the game launched so yeah i wouldnt agree with ur opinion as prydwen tier list is based on end game cbt content
you have no idea how idle game works huh? lol
diluc was never good, only considered good because nobody knew how to properly theorycraft around elements and nobody really understood things like ICD and reverse vaping when the game first came out. whereas damage calculation in nikke is more simple and people have been able to test the numbers for a long time now
@@iamabotthatstartsarguments7756 that's exactly my point, nikke is still in it's theoretical phase much like genshin 1.0 where Benett and xiangling were lower tier charas because of lack of testings . So naturally players will glorify the character which looks and feels strong out of the box, and that is scarlet/diluc
@@luv.fluffychan I can't believe this diluc slander right now, if u are a day 1 player u probably had diluc in your #1 wishlist for a month. Content creators, rerollers, and account sellers profited from diluc content like crazy just because they shitted on top tier charas like xiangling and Bennett
I upgraded liter first 🤔
it's kinda suck when everyone is talking about the best unit in the game all the time when some other people don't even have those units, how sad
@FPS Man many non-whales have scarlet. it makes sense to talk about her since she is the premier dps pick atm
Shotgun teams where previously showcased. I’ll also make a Privaty team in a few days
Should've rerolled bozo
Bruh.... Game are still new... You can reroll unit that you want.... If you don't, than play whatever unit you get, why complaining? Lol
@@cygnusknight4767 thanks for telling me what i already know
Your harran is getting no love, tragic
scarlet better
how u get thats much diamond T.T give me some pls .
😔
First comment :) Been waiting for this video
They should uncover the obstacle such as cloack and hair from the cake
inb4 future bikini skins lol
first
Is simulation room bugged? Clearing highest floor will not give rewards for previous floors. So unfortunately have to start from fl 1 and do them all separately for max rewards.
help full