Serious question as this is my main concern. If enlightened person doesn’t teach and talk and people don’t give them money, how do they live? Just being without a goal. Yeah I am enjoying my life for about 20 years without any goal and have nothing. Bills will eventually catch up
No goal just means there’s no “doer” someone is doing something but there’s no mind saying “I am doing this” or “This is fun” or “This is boring”. You are so utterly present because you know that the now is the only true reality as the past is memory and the future is only imagination. That there’s no place for thoughts to creep in, there’s no place for a “doer/i” to arise as a doer depends on time/space to exist, and when you 100% here in the timeless now. The “I” cannot possibly exist. Apart that self liberated beings are beyond this world so they do not mind where they live as they know it is impermanent and because they know the apparent reality is not the ultimate reality. The wall is solid in case you touch it that’s a truth on the superficial apparent “level” but there’s the ultimate truth which goes beyond that. There’s two types of self liberated beings the ones who do not mind working because they are not the one working or the ones who do not work as they know that it is pointless. Who is there to work for who? Or for what? Who would be even working? Meanwhile there’s self liberated beings that work because they know they not the doer so it does not feel like a shore because they do not identify with it. Then there’s the ones who “teach” who tries to show the way. But their teachings is not the way but the very finger pointing towards the way, just like the map is not the place itself but shows a way to the apparent place.
@@jennybengtsson1223 Ty for taking time and your comment. I know all these in theory but in practice, Again this is serious concern of mine. No doer and not taking joy of what you are doing, kills the motive and drive to do anything. Work for what? All work is for some sort of achievement. Thats an outcome driven attachment. We Work and the reward is money which ultimately pays the bills. Food, housing, heath care… If you wanna detach from everything associated with physical life , the doer, the outcome, the joy etc …you lose the drive to work enough to make enough money for your essential needs. And that was my original question. Meaning we are not spiritual teachers to get paid by our talks/books. So if you take away that from teachers, how are they gonna live without followers’ donation? They also have to “worry “, “stress over” about end of the month paychecks like many of us. You can’t detach from the consequences if you can’t afford your rent or your medical bills… if you are in pain and can’t afford the treatment you can’t tell yourself. “ oh this pain is not the real me, my essence is untouched”. Yes spiritually you are not the one in pain, it is your body. But you are still suffering from it .
The Gita is only a book and this video is only Osho expressing his experience. We cannot trust either unless we experience it for ourself. Words, thoughts or books is someone’s else view or experience. Our own experience is a direct experience. Others experience or intellectual experience won’t liberate you. Only direct experience will.
Gita is there for those who do not know. For if everyone knew, their would not be a purpose for Gita to exist, right? Osho speaks from direct experience, so the need for Gita has become nonexistent from working this context. Osho owned a collection of the most precious books. He read all. If it would have been of benefit with regards to the level of consciousness from which the question to him was asked, he would have referred to gita’s truth. All spoken truth is relative, and can only be seen as pointers to truth, not to be confused with the absolute. Your response comes from a high level of consciousness, sometimes referred to as the plane of reason. Osho’s explanation, on the other hand, is from an even more fundamental level of perception of reality. Reality as is. Nondual, so to speak. The one doesn’t have to exclude the other. As you might know, there’s many spiritual paths, up until the pathless path, which isn’t a path in the same sense. Not that what I’m stating ís absolutely accurate, but I suppose one could say; it’s the path / step / phase / process where all previously accumulated and accomplished, is dropped. At once. No goal, no purpose. Being, itself. 🙏🏼
If life has no goals or purpose, you could just lay down on bed and wait til you die. No need for you to aim to eat or drink just to have a goal of not be hungry or thirsty.
You won't eat if you don't have purpose, because you still not realized self, and are defining yourself as ego and a purpose, what he is talking about is an experience at a higher state of self awareness.
@@FahamNegini higher level of awareness is for crazy people who think they know something and talks nonsense just to deceive people and make the people like them who doesn't know what they are saying.
@dimitarfroze8046 enjoying life is already a goal. How can you enjoy life if you do not have the goal to enjoy life. And enjoying life is not just about enjoying life, it also needs responsibility. Just like enjoying drinking alcohol. Drink moderately. And being responsible is also a goal. Everything you do in your life is already a goal. When he talks about his idea to the people about what life is for him is already a goal. His goal. If he doesn't believe in goal, he should not talk at all. It is not about being obsess with goals. It is just what it is. Enjoying life and becoming a mindless person just to enjoy life is just like becoming an animal creature like a dog.
Deeply grateful for this upload 🙏🏻
Im ready to listen it again and again So Life changing words❤❤❤ Thank you Osho❤❤❤
Excellent, music is also awesome
Osho naman ❤❤❤❤
You're already that which you're seeking! powerful line!
There is no goal. There is only play, to enjoy presence. Thank you for the music. Listening to the lovely music is part of my play.
What eye opening message! Thanks Osho🙏🙏
Love osho❤
The music is way too loud😂
The sound really so kind so pleasing as Osho's voice
He didnt blink but said ghhgm with the throat 😂
Music is fine, just little less volume , please 🙏
Osho was one deep man!! Music is too loud though!!!
LOVE YOU MASTER
🪔🌹 OSHO 🌹❤
Thank you so much for this audio❤😊
Superb thanks for uploading ❤
🙏
Osho is The Master. R I. P.
❤💋
Thank you
Can someone share the title of the background song please
Jes .. jesss .. jesses GOTT ..
How cud I forgott, that anything is made by LIGHT & LOVE
The sound of background music is much higher than the sound of Osho. His sound is musical. Avoid music or play chirping of birds.
🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Why is this music playing over him?
❤❤❤❤
Glory. Love. Splendour. Lela.
The music is beautifully blended into Osho’s message. ❤
Which music have u use plz.tell its so peacefull
so people start thinking Osho's voice is not enough and try to make it better.....
Why don't you show it's resource from Osho's discourse ?
why are you disturbing Osho’s voice with music?
My purpose in life is just to be ,self realisation,Jesus is life it’s self
Serious question as this is my main concern. If enlightened person doesn’t teach and talk and people don’t give them money, how do they live? Just being without a goal. Yeah I am enjoying my life for about 20 years without any goal and have nothing. Bills will eventually catch up
No goal doesn't mean you will not work for living it means there is nothing to achieve,this moment is enough.
No goal just means there’s no “doer” someone is doing something but there’s no mind saying “I am doing this” or “This is fun” or “This is boring”.
You are so utterly present because you know that the now is the only true reality as the past is memory and the future is only imagination.
That there’s no place for thoughts to creep in, there’s no place for a “doer/i” to arise as a doer depends on time/space to exist, and when you 100% here in the timeless now. The “I” cannot possibly exist.
Apart that self liberated beings are beyond this world so they do not mind where they live as they know it is impermanent and because they know the apparent reality is not the ultimate reality.
The wall is solid in case you touch it that’s a truth on the superficial apparent “level” but there’s the ultimate truth which goes beyond that.
There’s two types of self liberated beings the ones who do not mind working because they are not the one working or the ones who do not work as they know that it is pointless. Who is there to work for who? Or for what? Who would be even working?
Meanwhile there’s self liberated beings that work because they know they not the doer so it does not feel like a shore because they do not identify with it.
Then there’s the ones who “teach” who tries to show the way. But their teachings is not the way but the very finger pointing towards the way, just like the map is not the place itself but shows a way to the apparent place.
@@jennybengtsson1223 Ty for taking time and your comment. I know all these in theory but in practice, Again this is serious concern of mine. No doer and not taking joy of what you are doing, kills the motive and drive to do anything. Work for what? All work is for some sort of achievement. Thats an outcome driven attachment. We Work and the reward is money which ultimately pays the bills. Food, housing, heath care…
If you wanna detach from everything associated with physical life , the doer, the outcome, the joy etc …you lose the drive to work enough to make enough money for your essential needs.
And that was my original question. Meaning we are not spiritual teachers to get paid by our talks/books. So if you take away that from teachers, how are they gonna live without followers’ donation?
They also have to “worry “, “stress over” about end of the month paychecks like many of us. You can’t detach from the consequences if you can’t afford your rent or your medical bills… if you are in pain and can’t afford the treatment you can’t tell yourself. “ oh this pain is not the real me, my essence is untouched”.
Yes spiritually you are not the one in pain, it is your body. But you are still suffering from it .
purpose of OSHO was to shake your preconceived believe so you can feel things differently.
Yes, please turn the music off
that music so loud in the background , so irritating...the music is choking his beautiful message
I can't listen with this sappy music. It makes it typical and pathetic. No background music needed. It's not a melodramatic movie.
well this is completely against gita.. otherwise ok
The Gita is only a book and this video is only Osho expressing his experience.
We cannot trust either unless we experience it for ourself. Words, thoughts or books is someone’s else view or experience.
Our own experience is a direct experience. Others experience or intellectual experience won’t liberate you. Only direct experience will.
Gita is there for those who do not know. For if everyone knew, their would not be a purpose for Gita to exist, right?
Osho speaks from direct experience, so the need for Gita has become nonexistent from working this context.
Osho owned a collection of the most precious books. He read all. If it would have been of benefit with regards to the level of consciousness from which the question to him was asked, he would have referred to gita’s truth.
All spoken truth is relative, and can only be seen as pointers to truth, not to be confused with the absolute.
Your response comes from a high level of consciousness, sometimes referred to as the plane of reason. Osho’s explanation, on the other hand, is from an even more fundamental level of perception of reality. Reality as is. Nondual, so to speak.
The one doesn’t have to exclude the other. As you might know, there’s many spiritual paths, up until the pathless path, which isn’t a path in the same sense.
Not that what I’m stating ís absolutely accurate, but I suppose one could say; it’s the path / step / phase / process where all previously accumulated and accomplished, is dropped. At once.
No goal, no purpose. Being, itself. 🙏🏼
Please remove that stupid music
If life has no goals or purpose, you could just lay down on bed and wait til you die. No need for you to aim to eat or drink just to have a goal of not be hungry or thirsty.
You won't eat if you don't have purpose, because you still not realized self, and are defining yourself as ego and a purpose, what he is talking about is an experience at a higher state of self awareness.
@FahamNegini boo. Spare me with your stupid philosophy. By living it means I'm already aware of my self.
@@FahamNegini higher level of awareness is for crazy people who think they know something and talks nonsense just to deceive people and make the people like them who doesn't know what they are saying.
He talks about us enjoying life and the moments themselves rather than being obsessed with goals.
@dimitarfroze8046 enjoying life is already a goal. How can you enjoy life if you do not have the goal to enjoy life. And enjoying life is not just about enjoying life, it also needs responsibility. Just like enjoying drinking alcohol. Drink moderately. And being responsible is also a goal. Everything you do in your life is already a goal. When he talks about his idea to the people about what life is for him is already a goal. His goal. If he doesn't believe in goal, he should not talk at all. It is not about being obsess with goals. It is just what it is. Enjoying life and becoming a mindless person just to enjoy life is just like becoming an animal creature like a dog.
Thank you