I tell clients that getting a room very good is not that difficult, but to make it professional with treatment might cost a lot more than getting it “very good”. ARC 4 can take a reasonably well-treated room (a must) to much, much better affordably. It has a ton of convenience features, too. I recommend it to all home and project studio producers after they’ve done a thoughtful REW-driven analysis and interventions with broadbands, bass traps, first reflections, symmetrical setup, proper speaker placement, etc.
This is one of the best purchases i have made. No matter what treatment you have in your room, this in my opinion improves the results. Your monitor mixes will be better.
I’ve owned mine for about a year. In an un-treated very large living room that I share with my family. The results were amazing, and I like the fact that I don’t have to have the software on the mix bus. I also own the slate vsl, which I haven’t used since I got the Arc. One of the best studio investments I’ve made yet.
@ I’m not an expert on conversion, but my main interface is an rme UFX 3. The ARC is the middle-man between the interface and main outs. In layman terms, it adjusts the frequency response of your room. All I can say is that my mixes were dramatically increased in accuracy…even more so than mixing with the Slate VSX.
That’s why you don’t put the room correction on your master fader/mix bus. You put it on the monitor out…or you put in the monitoring section of the mixer of your interface if it has its own…like RMEs TotalMix.
So I bought the IK Multimedia MTM Precision 6 monitors when they came out because they had the built in ARC in them and I didn't have to put it on my mix bus and do all that jazz, which is a pain considering my hybrid rig, where I don't have a mix bus in my DAW. And, the MTMs punch way above their weight class as well in my opinion. My other monitors are Trident HG-3s, which I absolutely love and have used since the day they came out. My room is treated pretty well, but the ARC really takes it over the finish line for me. I remember when the MTMs came out, my thought was, if they could take the ARC aspect out of the MTMs and put it in an external box that you could use with any speaker...now that is something I would buy quick, fast, and in a hurry. Well, when they did, I was all over it for my HG-3s. It was pretty jarring to go from the MTMs to the "un ARC'd" Tridents before, but now it's all good on both systems. I would love something like the Trinnov but for the money, the ARC kills and does what I need it to do.
Only question I have is, how do I switch between two sets of monitors? Do I have to unplug one and plug the other in every time, or do I have to put another monitor switch between the arc and the Monitors?
If you’re switching between multiple sets of speakers, I would think that means you have some kind of inclusive monitor controller. So I would just put it between the output of that controller and the speakers and which ever set you are using is going to be getting the same Corrections. And if those speakers are side-by-side, it should still be much improved.
Hey Joe, it's not ARC you need in that control room, it's a big strapping lad to rearrange all that outboard to somewhere below ear level. You can see on the response graph that the right hand side has some serious bumps that you normally see below the Schroeder frequency in most rooms. I'm surprised it isn't worse than it is given the proximity of all those metal faceplates. I have ARC in my room and it's made an enormous difference. And like the room in the video, my room isn't ideal...it does have some difficult to treat surface areas that I more or less have to live with, but most of the room is treated heavily. ARC does improve things though, no doubt about that.
Well, if I needed any more convincing about buying the SSL 2 interface there it is. In a studio worth only just a little under the GDP of Cambodia I see one lying across the console armed and ready to go. If anyone is using the SSL 2 MK2 let me know how it is - especially the twin headphone amp section. Cheers...
My question is, why physical gear vs software only using a microphone? I know other people have you use your own mixer to get a balanced mic input. These things are essential, used something like this for the first time and realized how much my desk boominess is adding so many low mids around 300hz.
I produce and mix on a computer desk and I've added some thick foam but small insulation would be better for reflection. Since I added that on the desk the audio has more definition also with the ARC 4, it helps tremendously. Would be nice if there was a real solution for desk problems like you and other people have. Until then this helps with minor problems.
@@domminney Im genuinely curious, why is it more convenient as a hardware unit; I assume it helps prevent delay and such? I do a lot of audio post for film and im also asking because of surround formats and atmos. So im just curious if the hardware is just to help with adjusting settings or you would have to daisy chain 3 of them for a 6 channel setup. Im always in for the hardware, but in this case It may only serve useful for a stereo or mono setup. This is super useful for tracking in a studio and Stereo mixes though as you can hear real potential issues before it goes for heavier mixing or mastering in other formats. thanks for the reply!
@ because it’s not just tied to your computer, say you have a mixing desk, or you want to plug a phone in to your speakers to play a song, having the hardware means your room is corrected independent of the computer. I have 2 consoles, a load of outboard, a phone / iPad dock etc. Having it software only would mean I’d need to run the outputs of my desk through the computer then back to my speakers.
@@domminney That's awesome, so many applications now that you mention it in that format. Can even be used for reducing feedback live I feel to remove excessive frequencies that may resonate too much not just in the studio.
@InTheMixJoeCarrell no sir the box will only store one reading. In order to change them you have to go into the software. Which defeats the purpose if you have multiple speakers. Or you bring it to different places. The hardware only stores one reading at a time. If u go to someone else's studio. Or if you have more then one you will need the software everytime. Now if they had set the hardware up so it could save multiple profiles it would be worth it
@@teddybeargram3 I see what you are saying. I would always have my laptop by default so it wouldn’t be a problem for many of us that carry by default. I still think it’s an amazing bargain for what it brings to studio of most of our friends. Especially if they primarily work in one room. Best wishes
"I can't make any misstates"? Well, Joe. Actually, you are making a huge one in the video! In order to hear your curves and setting, you must press the STORE button in order to transfer the settings to the hardware box. Unless you did this off-video, you are actually using the curves that was in the box, when you unpacked it. Not the measurements you made for your studio. Furthermore, you can only store one set of settings at a time in the hardware box. You can store several sets of settings in the software. But, again, you myst press STORE to transfer them to the box, before you can use them. You can, and should, shut down the software, once you have transfer the settings. The hardware box works by itself. There's no need to use the software, at alll, until you need to change the settings in the hardware box. If you have dual (or more) monitor ststems, you need two ARC Studio boxes if you want to be able to flip between the (an not having to tranfser the curves each time. However, with the price, it's feasible even for smaller studios. IIt's not like buy multiple Trinnovs. Don't worry. Many reviewers (including Warren) make the same misstake. It is a bit strange though. Being a professional, and very familiar with your studio, you should instantly hear that something is off. Shouldn't you?
@@Producelikeapro You didn't show that vital step in your video, though. I've seen lots of videos that show the product in a way that doesn't work, Turning the hardware off (bypassing it) is NOT the same as transferring the correction profile. If you are constantly using is without transferring the profiles of your various monitor speakers, you are constantly using the wrong profiles. Please, take a look in the manual for the ARC 4 software. In particular page 71. "The STORE button saves the current correction into the ARC Studio memory." If you skip this step (as you do in your videos), you ARE using the WRONG correction profiles. Period! I wonder how many people has used your videos as instructions, and keeps mixing with the wrong correction profiles? (Which I'd say is worse that using no correction at all.9
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@@Frazer777thanks for sharing
I tell clients that getting a room very good is not that difficult, but to make it professional with treatment might cost a lot more than getting it “very good”. ARC 4 can take a reasonably well-treated room (a must) to much, much better affordably. It has a ton of convenience features, too. I recommend it to all home and project studio producers after they’ve done a thoughtful REW-driven analysis and interventions with broadbands, bass traps, first reflections, symmetrical setup, proper speaker placement, etc.
It truly seems like something that should become an absolute standard for most home based control rooms and even beyond!
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell marvellous!
Thanks for sharing your experience Paul!
This is one of the best purchases i have made. No matter what treatment you have in your room, this in my opinion improves the results. Your monitor mixes will be better.
I tend to agree
Marvellous
@@InTheMixJoeCarrellthanks for sharing
I’ve owned mine for about a year. In an un-treated very large living room that I share with my family. The results were amazing, and I like the fact that I don’t have to have the software on the mix bus. I also own the slate vsl, which I haven’t used since I got the Arc. One of the best studio investments I’ve made yet.
@@GregWatkins_official I have a similar setup. I got a couple of switches to run all my gear through it too like my turntable.
How would you say the converters are? I love the idea of this but I’m concerned I’ll lose my open sound that my converters provide.
@ I’m not an expert on conversion, but my main interface is an rme UFX 3. The ARC is the middle-man between the interface and main outs. In layman terms, it adjusts the frequency response of your room. All I can say is that my mixes were dramatically increased in accuracy…even more so than mixing with the Slate VSX.
Awesome to hear Greg. Best wishes 🎉
Glad to see you cover this! Ive had mine for some months ans couldnt be more pleased with how much it improved my home theater!
Thanks for sharing!
Awesome to hear. Thank you for watching!
Thanks , excellent video. I've even tried mixing underwater. The results were shocking!
Electrifying?
Thank you for watching Michael!
Had Arc 3, now Arc 4, absolute no-brainer! Wonderful. 😎
🎉🎉
Marvellous!
🔥 Another good one
Thanks ever so much
Thanks, Joe! My mixing room doubles as my wife's shoe storage area, so lots of odd reflections there. Anything that can help is welcome!
This is a super affordable solution!!!
These are definitely some wants. 😊
That’s why you don’t put the room correction on your master fader/mix bus. You put it on the monitor out…or you put in the monitoring section of the mixer of your interface if it has its own…like RMEs TotalMix.
Awesome video Joe. I own now one for some time now and it is just a great little box.
Very cool. Glad you are enjoying it as well!
So I bought the IK Multimedia MTM Precision 6 monitors when they came out because they had the built in ARC in them and I didn't have to put it on my mix bus and do all that jazz, which is a pain considering my hybrid rig, where I don't have a mix bus in my DAW. And, the MTMs punch way above their weight class as well in my opinion. My other monitors are Trident HG-3s, which I absolutely love and have used since the day they came out. My room is treated pretty well, but the ARC really takes it over the finish line for me. I remember when the MTMs came out, my thought was, if they could take the ARC aspect out of the MTMs and put it in an external box that you could use with any speaker...now that is something I would buy quick, fast, and in a hurry. Well, when they did, I was all over it for my HG-3s. It was pretty jarring to go from the MTMs to the "un ARC'd" Tridents before, but now it's all good on both systems. I would love something like the Trinnov but for the money, the ARC kills and does what I need it to do.
I love to see more active speakers include their own room correction. Buchardt's sub10 includes correction for all speakers as a sub. Crazy
The “bang for the buck” is almost crazy haha. Thank for watching!
Only question I have is, how do I switch between two sets of monitors? Do I have to unplug one and plug the other in every time, or do I have to put another monitor switch between the arc and the Monitors?
If you’re switching between multiple sets of speakers, I would think that means you have some kind of inclusive monitor controller. So I would just put it between the output of that controller and the speakers and which ever set you are using is going to be getting the same Corrections. And if those speakers are side-by-side, it should still be much improved.
Can this be interfaced POST console ?
Yes, that’s where you would want it. Right before the speakers
@@InTheMixJoeCarrell exactly!
Yes, that's where you put it!
@@Producelikeapro awesome I just hadn’t been sure if it had to be hooked up to of 24/7 deffo done the research now ! Can’t wait to purchase one !
Got one, Great so far!!! ¡A darle! 🔥 One Love
Thanks for sharing!
🎉🎉
Hey Joe, it's not ARC you need in that control room, it's a big strapping lad to rearrange all that outboard to somewhere below ear level. You can see on the response graph that the right hand side has some serious bumps that you normally see below the Schroeder frequency in most rooms. I'm surprised it isn't worse than it is given the proximity of all those metal faceplates.
I have ARC in my room and it's made an enormous difference. And like the room in the video, my room isn't ideal...it does have some difficult to treat surface areas that I more or less have to live with, but most of the room is treated heavily. ARC does improve things though, no doubt about that.
Well, if I needed any more convincing about buying the SSL 2 interface there it is. In a studio worth only just a little under the GDP of Cambodia I see one lying across the console armed and ready to go. If anyone is using the SSL 2 MK2 let me know how it is - especially the twin headphone amp section. Cheers...
Hahah. Yeah it’s a great little box. And at a crazy good price!!
i have arc studio and is so good, better than soundid
My question is, why physical gear vs software only using a microphone? I know other people have you use your own mixer to get a balanced mic input. These things are essential, used something like this for the first time and realized how much my desk boominess is adding so many low mids around 300hz.
I have it, and it’s much more convenient as a hardware unit.
I produce and mix on a computer desk and I've added some thick foam but small insulation would be better for reflection. Since I added that on the desk the audio has more definition also with the ARC 4, it helps tremendously. Would be nice if there was a real solution for desk problems like you and other people have. Until then this helps with minor problems.
@@domminney Im genuinely curious, why is it more convenient as a hardware unit; I assume it helps prevent delay and such? I do a lot of audio post for film and im also asking because of surround formats and atmos. So im just curious if the hardware is just to help with adjusting settings or you would have to daisy chain 3 of them for a 6 channel setup. Im always in for the hardware, but in this case It may only serve useful for a stereo or mono setup. This is super useful for tracking in a studio and Stereo mixes though as you can hear real potential issues before it goes for heavier mixing or mastering in other formats. thanks for the reply!
@ because it’s not just tied to your computer, say you have a mixing desk, or you want to plug a phone in to your speakers to play a song, having the hardware means your room is corrected independent of the computer. I have 2 consoles, a load of outboard, a phone / iPad dock etc. Having it software only would mean I’d need to run the outputs of my desk through the computer then back to my speakers.
@@domminney That's awesome, so many applications now that you mention it in that format. Can even be used for reducing feedback live I feel to remove excessive frequencies that may resonate too much not just in the studio.
East west studios?
a reference mic, REW, target curve and EQ technique is more than enough. why purchase when you can with simple knowledge and skill can do.
$300.00 to correct a gazillion dollar issue..Why not?!?
Marvellous!
Such a great and affordable package. Thank you for watching.
It only holds one reading. That is crazy for 300 dollars.
Not at all. That’s just all I stored. But I could store multiple rooms if I wanted to bring it with me as I travel around.
@InTheMixJoeCarrell no sir the box will only store one reading. In order to change them you have to go into the software. Which defeats the purpose if you have multiple speakers. Or you bring it to different places. The hardware only stores one reading at a time. If u go to someone else's studio. Or if you have more then one you will need the software everytime. Now if they had set the hardware up so it could save multiple profiles it would be worth it
@@teddybeargram3 I see what you are saying. I would always have my laptop by default so it wouldn’t be a problem for many of us that carry by default. I still think it’s an amazing bargain for what it brings to studio of most of our friends. Especially if they primarily work in one room. Best wishes
"I can't make any misstates"? Well, Joe. Actually, you are making a huge one in the video! In order to hear your curves and setting, you must press the STORE button in order to transfer the settings to the hardware box. Unless you did this off-video, you are actually using the curves that was in the box, when you unpacked it. Not the measurements you made for your studio.
Furthermore, you can only store one set of settings at a time in the hardware box. You can store several sets of settings in the software. But, again, you myst press STORE to transfer them to the box, before you can use them. You can, and should, shut down the software, once you have transfer the settings. The hardware box works by itself. There's no need to use the software, at alll, until you need to change the settings in the hardware box.
If you have dual (or more) monitor ststems, you need two ARC Studio boxes if you want to be able to flip between the (an not having to tranfser the curves each time. However, with the price, it's feasible even for smaller studios. IIt's not like buy multiple Trinnovs.
Don't worry. Many reviewers (including Warren) make the same misstake. It is a bit strange though. Being a professional, and very familiar with your studio, you should instantly hear that something is off. Shouldn't you?
I did store the settings of course. The clip of me doing that may not have been in the video, but it was obviously one of the steps.
@@svenisaksson3970 and for the record, I believe I clearly said that I can and do indeed make mistakes! Often actually
I stored the settings as well of course! I move back and forwards between using it and not using it, especially because of course we swap speakers!
@@Producelikeapro You didn't show that vital step in your video, though. I've seen lots of videos that show the product in a way that doesn't work,
Turning the hardware off (bypassing it) is NOT the same as transferring the correction profile. If you are constantly using is without transferring the profiles of your various monitor speakers, you are constantly using the wrong profiles.
Please, take a look in the manual for the ARC 4 software. In particular page 71. "The STORE button saves the current correction into the ARC Studio memory." If you skip this step (as you do in your videos), you ARE using the WRONG correction profiles. Period!
I wonder how many people has used your videos as instructions, and keeps mixing with the wrong correction profiles? (Which I'd say is worse that using no correction at all.9
@ I was impressed!! Have a good weekend brother Warren.
Sonarworks more interesting 😊