09G Valvebody Removal
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- In this video, I go over how to remove the valvebody from the transmission. On the bench I I.D the solenoids and show the rebuilt one ready to go in. I also show how to set the trans back to basic settings with Ross-Tech. Thanks for watching and everyone please stay safe.
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This is the best removal video I have seen. Jus pulled mine yesterday (7/20/24). Much appreciated.
Thank you, Gary, stay safe and have a great week!
Thanks, you too!
You're a great man sir
Thank you kindly
Nice job on this unit Gary, I suspect other lesser shops would just sell a full overhaul on a unit like this. I really appreciate your honesty and tech information you put out weekly. Glad to hear you're staying busy, stay safe as well.
I think that's what happened, when I told him what the problem was and gave him the price, he didn't hesitate to give me the ok to fix the job
This is what I'm trying to avoid as well I'd rather pay a couple hundred instead of a couple thousand..
Volkswagen wants over 1k for a new valve body from them which I think is insane
Real great video your a hero! 😊
The first to say thanks for your videos.
Thank you, thanks for watching
Thanks for your very useful videos
You are great man
Keep going...
exc video and instruction. I used cardboard and traced the valve body and put screws thru holes in cardboard to keep straight 🙂
Good Job!!
Great idea!
When I had mine out I put bolts in and moved em around so they all had about 1/4" pushin' thru the backside of it. But Imma use the cardboard idea to get them back IN. THX (7/20/24)!!
Great video,Gary!!
I was changing the trans fluid this weekend and attempted to remove the safety seal on the fill tube...and the fill tube broke off (ugh).
My question is, where would the tabs that broke off go?
Do I need to drop the VB in order to retrieve the tabs?
Thanks in advance for your help!
Hey Gary. Thanks for the video. I have a 2004 beetle with the 2.0 engine and the 6 speed auto/triptronic transmission. I am having the same problem. Trans shifts great when cold horrible when hot. I'm not sure what trans this thing has but was hoping that this process would work for my '04 beetle. Any thoughts?
Thank You Gary
Thanks for watching
I got the oposit problem with my Volkswagen golf, kicking gears when cold, ones it warms up star doing fine, any suggestions? Thanks for sharing the video, it was very informative👍✌
Greetings .I wish you where this side sir .My mechanic man was testing the Solonoid with the car battery and said they are ok hearing the clicking sound
You have 09G Transmission? does the transmission work ok cold and not ok hot?
Hi gary, I have a problem with that transmission skidding when crossing fourth speed!
thumbs up.. BTW: Grundeinstellung means "Basic Settings" in german in your VCDS.
Do you know why a VW with 09g wouldnt move before and after valve body job? I thought it was valve body but no go. Thank you.
Hi there, found this video when I was searching answers to my transmission problem. My Audi q7 is doing the opposite. Bad when cold but good when hot. Also when it is cold and I drive it in the M mode, the transmission sometimes decides to switch to D mode then back to M mode on its own. When that happens the transmission bangs into a gear. Could it be a valve body issue too? Thanks!
Gary....thanks VERY MUCH FOR SHARING your Knowledge and Experience
QUESTION: *Where did you purchase the VB?*
From a company called Ream man valvebodies, Great company
@@GaryFerraro Thanks man... Hope all is well where you are~
@@jjsiegal1 All is well here, thanks
thanks for the vid gary
but i have to say there is a common problem with this unit the k2 clutch drum piston likes to blowup which applies in 4 . 5 . 6
Funny thing around here, out of every 15 that i do, i would have to be overhauled, i see more valvebody issues here
@@GaryFerraro yes this happens alot with 09g
Thanks for the video.
My vw Jetta 2006 does not engage the reverse shift. What could be the problem?
can you tell me if any codes are present for the transmission
Hi Gary, excellent video. My car is having a similar problem. It makes sudden changes when going from 2nd to 3rd gear. When do you estimate that a mechanic shop could charge me to replace the valve body? I have a friend who has a car lift and I could perhaps do it myself but I would like to be sure before doing it and if it is not so expensive I would also like to have someone do it for me.
the problem you are having is when the car is hot? car works ok cold
I accidently allowed my shifter to fall out of my valve body when replacing my speed sensor, how do I reassemble the shifter and related springs contained inside the shifter tube
Video and teardown is of great help. Im having a code P0748 - Pressure Control Solenoid 'A' Electrical, would you be able to help trying to pinpoint which solenoid? greatly appreciated, it is a 2011 Jetta 2.5
Would you have to use the Ross-Tech basic settings for a VW passat 2.8 4motion tiptronic after the valve body is replaced?
U gotta earse the transmission memory, so it cam reprogram its self n u start to drive
It appear that Ream Man valve bodies is no longer around, do you have another recommandation for 09G valve body?
Scott
One of the wiring plug clips broke when I was pulling them off. Any suggestions for how to connect it back and make sure it stays connected without replacing the wiring loom? My thought was to perhaps plug it in, and cover it plugged in with heat shrink to hold it together?
good idea
The "German word" in VCDS means "system back in basic setting"
My Passat does shift hard when it´s hot jus in 3. and 5. gear, in reverse, and sometimes in 4. gear. Can I now which of the solenoids can I replace or should I replace the whole valve body?
Can we find somewhere which solenoids are for what?
Thanks
I would go with a valvebody, the bores wear out too.
Gary... you mentioned if its good cold then no good when hot. My 05 beetle 1.8t is opposite. bad when cold but gets better when hot. what do you think it could be?
Sounds like something with the trans internals, are there any codes present
Awesome video. I have a 2014 Jetta 1.8T with the 09G. Currently I don’t have reverse… it just revs but it doesn’t move the vehicle. D seems to work but it seems “weak”, best description I can give. Only fault code I have on the vehicle’s transmission is a P0795 Pressure Control Solenoid C Malfunction. Vehicle has 145k and in pretty sure it has never had an oil change in the transmission. Could this be a valve body issue?
If no reverse cold and hot not a valvebody problem, internal trans problem
@@GaryFerraro Thank you for the help! I just changed the transmission oil on the 09G and found that it only had less than a liter of oil in the vehicle (plot thickens haha). I changed the oil and filter and decided to give the vehicle a try. Vehicle still has no reverse and the only fault code I am getting using VCDS is "Pressure Control Solenoid C" P079500, no other codes. With your experience, I am looking to potentially get a new/used transmission for the vehicle?
I have a technical question. Im replacing my 2014 VW Jetta 1.8 Valve body. I bought a reman. The issue is I was sent a Gen1 and my car has a Gen 2. They are interchangeable, but the solenoid layout is different. I can find any wiring diagram that give me the layout for the gen 2. Any suggestions?
Hey Phil, Sorry, I forgot to call you back, shop is beyond busy, You need info on a Gen 1 correct. Sorry, can't think straight i have that, i have no info on Gen 2
I wonder how the oil doesn’t cause problems with regards to affecting the electrical connections ... there must be a certain amount of conductance through the oil especially as the gearbox wears and traces of metal enter the oil stream....it looks like all the connections to the sensors are not IP rated so the only conclusion is that the oil electrical resistance is very high and all metal trace must be captured by the oil filter...
Hi Gary - have you encounter an issue where it wont go to drive after replacing the valve body? reverse is working but wont engage to D
I never have. Where did you get the valvebody
Hie Gary. I have an mk5, 2005 and its giving me transmission problems. It makes a jerking motion when i put it in drive at then at times when changing down from 4-3. Now it’s showing all gear light(PRNDS) illuminated on the dash. Its currently stuck in gear 5 when it was put on the machine and can still go forward but very slow, reverse works like a charm. Do i need a new gearbox or just the valve body?
Have it scanned and let me know what the codes are
Gary, great video. I wanna swap out my valve body in my wife’s 07 bettle. Is the setting back to basics settings necessary in this year model? Just wondering because I do not have the equipment for that. Thanks.
You could probably just drive it around, make sure no codes are present, Try that first see what happens
@@GaryFerraro Thanks so much for the response, after changing it out and driving it around for a while and it acts ok, would you say I will be in the clear? Also, that manual valve you pull from old unit and put in the new right? And does it just pull out and simply just push back into the new ? Thanks.
@@lancewright21 Yes, manual valve will slide right out, if it shifts ok hot now, you should be fine
@@GaryFerraro Ty so much for the responses, really appreciate it.
QUESTION: Gary...is it necessary to drop the Valve Body to change Solenoids ? (my mechanic seems to think he can do it 'in place?' ) ???
I'd like to know that too. Does anyone know? Also, do you have to take out the transmission, or are you doing this from the undercarriage on the lift? Great video, though. Very helpful.
Hi Gary, nice video. What kind of trnansmssion fluid would you recommend? Thanks
For this Trans i use full synthetic trans oil
@@GaryFerraro any particular brand, was it multi-vehicle synthetic?
@@johnlucas8978 it was full synthetic fluid, i purchase in 5 gallon buckets, it is multi vehicle
Hi Gary, very informative video, but I have a question, my 09G trans is shifting very harshly from 1st to 2nd when hot so I bought a re manufactured solenoid kit, but non of the numbers on the solenoids correspond to the numbers you mentioned or that I have seen on diagrams for the valve body, and the colors of the electrical connectors are different!
Is there any other way of identifying them?
The solenoid kit did not come with instructions? what about the colors of the solenoid connectors, they are all the same?
@@GaryFerraro I have one with a black connector marked 2C which I believe is the TCC as it is the only one with a different tip, 2 more with black connectors marked B4 & C2, one with a brown connector marked B2, one with a yellow connector marked C1, and one with a grey connector marked D4
@@marksutcliffe409 I have nothing that has those numbers, if you would like to e-mail me gsferraro@yahoo.com i can send you what i have
And sorry, no instructions, not sure I would trust a Chinese to English translation even if there were!
You’re last name is the same as mine …. Who are you lol
Jokes aside thank you for this breakdown video and what not. Helpful.
LOL, thanks. I'm in New York
@@GaryFerraro yeah! We’re from Pittsburgh lol but would this be the same process for a 2014 VW Jetta S or no? I have to replace mine due to rough gear engagement
@@xXJasaxFerraroX If has the 09G yes it would. To confirm it is ok cold and not ok hot
Can you do video putting back together? like what bolts go where?(knocked over) what torques? and all that. Big thing is my stuff got knocked over.
putting the valvebody back?
@@GaryFerraro Like installing the new one.
@@scubieman Next one i get sure, sorry, got the parts at the wrong time
Hi gary. Wish you were closer to me. I have a mini with this trans. Would not shift past 2nd when i got it. Replaced the valve body and it works good cold but when hot and coming to a stop or slowing, only going up a slight grade(say like you were coming to stop and gave a little throttle to get to the stop or if you slow and do a turn onto another road.it will slam into 1st gear early and feels like you got hit in the rear end. I dont know if the valve body i got was built right or if something else is wrong. I had codes in the past with the throttle body i thought maybe the throttle input is confusing the transmission or something.Any clue?
Very possible, it almost sounds like a valvebody but are those throttle body codes still there? if so, may have trouble adapting , is there a relearn you can do with a scan tool?
Hello friend, 2 years have passed, but I have the same problem. Did you fix it? Did you change the throttle?
Hey Gary, nice video. Very informative. I have a 2012 jetta tdi. I'm getting a code p0733 gear 3 incorrect ratio. It revs at 4 rpm and gear 3 does does not engage. I changed the transmission fluid but it did not help. Do you think it's a valve body issue?
Does this problem happen when cold and hot or only hot and car drives fine when cold?
I noticed that it happens when it's hot. It drives fine when cold
@@besimtopalli4351 If that is the case then your valvebody is no good
Thanks brother. I'm going to try to replace it. I saw some refurbished valve bodies on ebay that were cheaper than buying one from the dealer. Do you recommend buying a new one or am I okay with buying one on ebay?
I have rebuilt many 09g solenoids. The coating in the factory bushing fail causing the anvil or whatever it called to hang up.
Yes, just like on the 55-50SN units
Can I do it myself?
Hi Gary, you talk about this particular car showing the symptoms when hot may be the Valve Body. What if the same symptoms came up when the car has been driven for only a minute and it is okay but then the symtoms come up. Symptoms: 1-2 and 5-6 bump
Then i would not say the valvebody is the problem, it would be something else internal to the transmission. Any codes?
@@GaryFerraro No transmission fault codes present. Only Engine fault of the intake manifold flap which has been solved. Already did a reset Adaptive learning values.
@@galidbell5029 Did anything change after shift adapt reset
@@GaryFerraro No nothing, same issue. I also noticed that the shift point is very high compared to other cars. If I shift manually (much sooner) the bump in 1-2 is gone.
@@GaryFerraro Replaced the Valve Body yesterday. Issues gone completely :)
My vw Passat 2007 has hard shifting when I accelerate hardly. But in normal speed it shifts good. Do you think it's because of valve body or solenoids?
How does the trans work cold compared to when it's hot?
congratulations very good video very educational one of my cars has the same problem I know this video will be very helpful
just a question
how can i get the model or transmission number so i can order the correct part
thank you so much
greetings from texas
always goes by the vin number of the car
Thanks for taking the time to answer my question.
today I called the parts workshop and they asked me the model or number, I don't feel like they didn't help me
@@oswaldohernandez3263 You want the model of the trans correct? if so, what is your vin, i can look it up
Can you show the drive solonide please
Do you recall the torque specs for the brackets that hold the pins that hold the solenoids?
Not off hand but thinking maybe 60 to 70 inch pounds
I got a question someone please answer. Are the TCC and EPC solenoids grounded by the transmission ?
No , grounded by computer
I have a 2005 VW Beetle with the 09G. I was wondering if you know how the transmission is cooled. It doesn't have the external cooler on top of the trans and I don't see any coolant lines coming from the transmission. Any clue?
Bolted to the outside of the trans is a round can with water lines going to it, trans fluid flows through that can(called a fluid warmer) and water helps keep it cool
@@GaryFerraro I don't have that. I have seen them on other VW's. Not this one. Could some versions of the 09g not have it?
Gary do you think that the 09G transmission is in my 2007 bettle? Ty buddy.
i would say yes to that
Hi sir.excellent education ..
But I like ask ask your help.
Like same this vavle body found in 2010 mini Cooper s .6 speed automatic.
I have problem with gear shit .when I put drive (D) car won't move for some seconds then car start moving in 5th gear slowly ,gear indicator shows D5 in my car cluster.
1st 2nd 3rdand 4th gear were not engage..only 5th and reverse gear only works..help please
There must be codes present, have the car scanned
I have a 2015 volkswagen jetta 2.0 and when the car is cold it wont shift into reverse when it gets hot reverse works. Could tbis be the valve body?
well, anytime i had a problem when the car was hot was always the valvebody, when cold was never the valvebody. Car drives forward good? you have the 09G trans for sure?
@GaryFerraro yes I have the 09g transmission and yes drives good forward no matter what. And will also reverse when car is warm but when car is cold after just starting won't reverse.
Is this the same valvebody in a 2006 mini cooper S ?
there are different ones, some may have pressure switches
Hi everybody I need help please
Ihave transmission problem in my VW passat 2016 after RTA with crash of the gearbox case and cartair. And already I change both of them. Now there is delay in D drive with hit sense and the car start moving only with D5
What trans do you have the 09G?
Would it be the same issue if the car is shifting hard when cold and normal when it's warm?
Never had that but when it acts up cold it may be something internal
@@GaryFerraro thanks I'll look into that
I always love your videos. Question: Why purchase a rebuilt valve body and not just tear it apart yourself and put it together with new parts?
A lot of reaming and solenoids would have to be changed, it would almost the same amount, so i just go for the reman product save some time, it's usually always busy never really slow. Thanks for watching
Hi..I have a 2007 vw transporter. Its a 2.5 automatic. It seems to be slipping when it goes into 4tg gear. 1st 2nd and 3rd it changes fine but when I get the speed up to about 40km it starts to rev up and not want to drive. Also the display on the dash that shows which gear I'm in is not working properly and it is not showing which gear I'm in.any ideas on what might be the problem?
How much is a replacement valve body?
Question, How does the car work when cold?
@@mandylad OK, Than you most likely have an internal problem inside the trans
@@GaryFerraro what makes you think that?
Where is your shop located? I may need a visit with my VW
Im in New York on Long Island
Hola buenas noches me podría ayudar se reparo una Allison 1000 se puso a andar y tira el código p0872 se cambió el Swich de presión y sigue igual . Me podría ayudar por dónde buscar la falla desde ya muchas gracias
Hello, If you could send me an e-mail at gsferraro@yahoo.com I could send some info to you on this code.
hi Gary
i have a code PO721 transmission output speed sensor (G195)Implausible signal on my jetta 2007 wolfsburg 2.5
how much would it cost me to get it fixed at the shop or the dealer
you either a bad output speed sensor or a broken wire probably at or near the connector, the last few that i did the wire was broken, they get very brittle for some reason so i would look at that first before a sensor is installed
Hello Gary I’m getting the same code P0721 for my 2010 Volkswagen Jetta. It hasn’t drove for about a year was sitting all that time, I’ve attempted to drive it recently it made it so far and the engine would rev in drive but the car doesn’t move at all neither of the gears.
Mr Gary i wanna i ask i have transmission cvt nissan sentra 2016 the problem is no forward gear you can help
If you have reverse, probably something with the forward clutch pack. How is reverse?
@@GaryFerraro reverse is working just no forward you can help what type for this transmission or forward drum name
@@fountainblueautorepairing The forward drum should be attached to the input shaft
@@GaryFerraro Thank you so much
Hi sir did you get a code P0730? Any help will be appreciated.
It may throw a code but how does the trans work cold and how does it work hot?
Great video! What do you charge for this?
Usually runs about 1600.00 or so. Would need a vin number to get an exact price
@@GaryFerraro wow! i just purchased a remanufactured vb and installed in 2 1/2 hours. 590 for vb and 65 for oil, filter and gasket.
@@rhoddin wow, where did you get that?, thats way below what i pay for them
@@GaryFerraro street smart in tampa. hope it proves to be a good one. they claim they're updated as well.
seems like a legit outfit. very smooth process. big player in the game i think.
One point. Your reman valve body didn't come with a spool valve and you swapped the old one over. The workshop manual explicitly states that the spool valves should not be interchanged. My reman VB from StreetSmart came with its own spool valve. Of course I have no way of knowing if it was the original, but I expect it was.
You mean the manual valve
Hi Gary, can you give me the tightening torques for the motronic?
If you mean valvebody for 09G 100 inch pounds
@@GaryFerraro you know in European value ?
I have 09m transmission
@@guillemingregory7075 Is that Neuton Meters
What it means if it runs bad while cold , but once it warms up .. its fine
That may be something inside the trans, never had a valvebody do that yet
I always let it idle for 10mins , once I get going its little sketchy, but when car runs for 10-15 minutes shifts become smooth. If I start driving and car is cold , it gets jerky, it holds high RPMs and it doesnt want to shift.
Hey gary is there anyway to contact you? I have a question.
My e-mail is gsferraro@yahoo.com
I am getting a P0721 code and I am going to change the output speed sensor. It looks like I only need to remove that one bolt and harness? Not remove the entire valve body?
Valvebody has to come out to see the sensors but check your wiring first on the outside, the wires get very brittle and break
@@GaryFerraro thanks Gary!!! I will do that for sure. I had other codes come up but since this is the easiest and cheapest and never had a fluid change seems to be the good first step.
@@Jasonjames1970 Do you have a scanner that shows live transmission data?
@@GaryFerraro no unfortunately
@@Jasonjames1970 do you know anyone with a snap-on or autel scanner. The sensor gets powered up with about 3 volts(i think) and you can see this on the scan tool, if no volts are present may be wiring
Hello, i have 2014 volkswagen jetta 1.8 turbo engine, i have code p072100 ,and p074100,p073200, they said it's out put speed sensor do you have any idea can you help me with it, the car has 76,000 miles thank you.
Do you have a scanner that shows live data? The Po721 is output speed code, If you clear , it comes back? I see the wires get very brittle on these and break
My car won't go into drive until it gets warm could that be the valve body😊
No, check your fluid level first. If it worked perfect cold and not perfect hot, you have a valvebody issue
So weird Gary. I had all codes P0731 P0732 P0733 come and go as I drive it from cold to warm. No OverDrive but I can get it up to 80 kilometers but it maxes out at about 2500 RPMS could this be limp mode as people have said? The book from Volkswagen says change the fluid at 180,000 kilometres I am at exactly 180,000 kilometres. Almost like the computer recognizes my speedometer and it's telling me to change the fluid? I just don't know if changing the fluid would remove all these codes or could it be a whole valve body but if it was the valvebody windows be different codes for the solenoids? So confusing I just purchased did Dan scan tool that will give me live data and I figured since I do my own work it'll end up paying for itself by reducing the amount of parts I need to change on my vehicles. Thanks for all your help I'm not holding it against you if it doesn't workout I am not a professional and although frustrating it is kind of fun
If the fluid is low it can cause these codes, also if there is a speed sensor code it can cause these codes
@@GaryFerraro Funny code for speed sensor only came up once. then disappeared.
@@GaryFerraro Okay I got a new fault code reader today. I have P0732 01680 (Speed signal from ABS wheel sensory front right, 00364 terminal 15 slave(lower limit exceeded), 00453 function limitation due to excessive temperature? hmmm
@@Jasonjames1970 Po732 in the trans correct?
@@GaryFerraro well I was driving but now I’m limp mode as it for warmer. P0721 came up and the engine light came on for the first time ever. 00453 - Function Limitation due to Over-Temperature in the Transmission Module, and although gone now P0732 comes and goes as does p0731 and P0733. Not sure if this is related but 01680Speed sensor from ABS wheel right wheel. 🤣. I think I should do the cheap things first like output speed sensor fluid change, and sensor? What do you think? I guess I could do the valve body and solenoids but autozone wants $1200 for a new one so I would rather started cheap and move upward? Thanks Gary! You have to be a pro , unlike me lol. I child psychotherapist so any $ saving tips is helpful.
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I use a premium synthetic fluid
I need a valve body for my 14 jetta se has the 09g.. is there and aftermarket dealer where i cam get one
Where are you located?
@@GaryFerraro I am located in Pennsylvania. I am having hard shifts down shifts on it own when it shouldn't be jerky shifts from 1 St to 2nd .. but if I go out and drive it when the car is cold it shifts 100% normal.
@@GaryFerraro and I am having an a hell of a time finding a reman.. it's a 2014 Jetta se 1.8t 6 speed automatic non dsg Gen 3. I can't even find anyone to tell me what one I need. As I seen there is some with larg cans and small cans pressure switch and no pressure switches. I'm honestly getting frustrated with it.. it's my daily driver so I can't really tear it apart until I find one
Your looking for a whole transmission or a valvebody?@@dennystoutzenberger1212
ok, sounds like valvebody, your looking for a reman valvebody?@@dennystoutzenberger1212
why is common for them to go bad? thanks!
The armature in the solenoid slides through a brass bushing, the bushing gets burred up and the armature sticks when hot, also these valvebodies are known for bore wear
@@GaryFerraro do you happen to know if the newer models have addressed this issue? thanks
@@ES175jazz Newer models of the 09G?
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Did you get a code P0730?