To complete it in the least number of swings, using the momentum of the hammer and swing 'through' the target. I see a number of people taking short choppy swings, as if bunting in baseball, and the target does not respond well. If you can manage it with accuracy, a full swing, like hitting a home run, is best. But the biggest component is hitting the target squarely in the center (aim for a spot just above center).
The FE equipment is calibrated according to the IAFF CPAT guide, which recommends a setting of 850lbs. It can actually be done in one hit, but not usually during a run when I'm hurrying. It's as much about technique as strength.
At first I was thinking it doesn’t show him wearing the weighted vest or the shoulder weights but u can hear the Velcro on them being pulled off when he steps off the stepmill. Impressive time !!
One of the slowest times I’ve seen in a while. But here’s the thing. You’re still this side of the dirt so you still have an opportunity to get better 👊
I haven't seen Props, but I have seen The Forceable Entry Prop done in two swings by big in shape guys! Props obviously isn't your average human as we all know the CPAT is tough. Great Job Props!!
Thank you. Bunch of jealous insecure fireman doing the complaining. They would blow a gasket if I showed them my 6:18 video. The second half of the course (everything post stepmill) can be accomplished in under 3 min. It's not a difficult test if you are fire fit (and not just a gym rat with muscles who thinks he is fit). If anything, because our course has so many twists and turns during the walking portions to achieve the 85', my time would be lower on some other courses.
thank you. I'm much slower these days. Just ran a 7:18 a few weeks back at the age of 48. I think with some practice I can get back down to the 6:40's.
Just now took the CPAT in Las Vegas. The stairclimber was a 20 second warmup, then 3 minutes and 20 seconds. We were only allowed to run with the hose carry. Dummy drag had to be two hands only while walking backwards. We had to hit the hammer target 15 times. There is no buzzer regardless of how hard you hit the target. Other than that, everything was the same. I thought I was doing well until I got my time. I got 8:46 and it felt like I was flying through it...I guess not.
They are not doing the official CPAT correctly. The CPAT manual is very clear on the parameters of the test. LV should be careful that they don’t lose their license. With the extra stipulations they placed on it, your time is very respectable.
Then why title the video "CPAT record 6:24"? Do tests count as records (records that stand with actual CPATS)? If so, why? Is this the record for CPAT demos that are sent to HR (like to make ads or something)? If so, why? If it is not an actual test, and it is not done with the same rules, can you really call it a record then? If this is not an actual test but a demo of the actual test given to HR, shouldnt you do the test in full, with full effort, and full gear (i guess you need gloves? Idk not a fireman or anything, just read that alot here) since im assuming you are supposed to be giving to HR as a demo so they understand what the test is in action. If you actually end up reading all of this and answering, thatd be cool. Also im only asking because the title and the comments you have responded to people with seem to contradict one another or are phrased in a way where one could assume such a thing (hence the comment)
@@kage3587 why are you so bothered by it? As far as I can tell, this dude's performance doesn't affect your standing one bit. It doesn't bump you from a hiring process, it doesn't prevent you from getting into an academy, and it sure as hell doesn't lead to you getting terminated from a fire department. So, please, shut the fuck up and just tip your hat to the guy. Jesus H. Christ!
Good job on keeping your breathing under control and not letting the stairs kick your ass, I assume this wasn't for qualification since you didn't have gloves on and were jogging, but gray job man, that test is an ass kicker
first 20 seconds are approximately 50 steps a minute. The timed portion (3 minutes) is at approximately 60 steps a minute. As Stairmaster has different values for different models of StepMills, your results may vary.
However impressive that was. He was not wearing gloves, requirement by IAFF/IAFC. for two hits on the FE I would have to verify the required 850 psi setting on the testing head. Other than that, WOW. WELL DONE.
yeah, it was just a sample to show HR. I also did not have a helmet on. But I personally calibrate the FE machine before every event, it is indeed at ~850psi.
There are obstacles yes. Some things to crawl over and under. Some tight areas as well, but nothing crazy. We do it with SCBA on as well, so there’s lots of room.
Where was this taken? Reason I ask is that the only testing course we have around here just started using rubber mats under the hose drag. With the added friction now, the hose weighs more than I do and I was pulling my body out of the box and the hose wasn't moving. I had to spend a lot of time and energy jerking it (lol). They used to just have the concrete floors and I'd have 2 minutes to spare at the end of the test, no problems. Two days later, I stretched on a house with 200' of 1 3/4" hose up a cement driveway and around to the C side of the house without any issue whatsoever. I was a bit pissed about spending $180 this time around, and I missed it by 7 seconds. My observation was that only dudes 200 lbs+ were passing the day I took it. I weigh 175. I'm all for a standardized test, but this one seemed a good way to collect everyone's money. I've passed it 6 times no problems, but has anyone else had mats added to the course? Just curious. Every video I see has bare concrete floors, and the Manual says the floor can mimic "unpolished concrete". Textured rubber mats DO NOT mimic unpolished concrete.
The IAFC is quite specific on the parameters of the CPAT. The place with rubber mats should be investigated. Go to the IAFC website and you can report them.
I respect a good CPAT time as much as the next guy, but your course raises some major red flags. Like fdny600 said, that FE station is a beast. I've seen it done in two swings, but that's a rarity. And there is no chance that was 200' of hose. Sorry man.
Your other comment was not exactly what I would refer to as respectful, but I digress. The forcible entry station is set to the IAFF recommendations, and calibrated routinely. The last 50' foot of hose may have been left off for this demonstration, but it never moves, and therefore has zero effect on the overall time.
What other major red flags are you referring to? I assure you the FE equipment is calibrated as it should be, and thanks to my diligence, the latest Stairmaster received updated software so that it more closely conforms to the IAFF step counts. The course is laid out with 85' between each station, all equipment and mannequin weights are within spec, all equipment was purchased to the exact specifications of the IAFF.
Bro! No gloves, 2 hit FE, and 1/4 of the hose drag station are missing. Do it the way the rest of North America and brag about your 7 minute time. It is still very good time. But if you are going to brag about your time, you have to expect criticism.
John Noah Ok, I will not swing the sledge as accurately or forcefully next time. I will wear gloves, heavens knows how much time I shaved off by having bare palms. And the 50' of the hose station that never moves from it's starting position, I will be sure you can see that as well. When I run it that way in under 6:10, what criticism can I expect then bro?
I will send you a BCFD patch. Honest injun. But consider this. The 50' section weighs 19 lbs and you will definetly feel the drag. It is only going to add a few seconds. But the only reason I picked up on that was how fast you were pulling the hose!
no way you did the forcible entry in 2 swings like that. I took mine recently and passed in 8:20 and it took me about 10 swings to make it go off and I'm an in shape guy
What can I say that I haven't already? Machine is calibrated correctly. I've proctored hundreds of CPAT tests. Many candidates take 7-10 hits on the forcible entry. As someone who has spent most of his life swinging sledgehammers and axes and doing manual labor, the forcible entry prop is something I very comfortable with. If you can get access to a CPAT practice, spend some time perfecting your swing and I bet you can get down to 3-4 swings. I'm 6'1", 240lbs, and run the CPAT in 6:18.
I have seen it done in 2-3 swings many times. Most guys just don't know how to swing a hammer. F=M*A. It's not about swinging hard, it's about getting the mass moving as fast as possible. It's also way in the carnival games they always hand you a heavy hammer. If you want to ring the bell, grab the light one and get it moving as fast as possible.
I know this is years later, i totally respect that time, its better than mine. I just searched a few videos of cpat and you are all over them just talking about this guy who had an amazing 6 minute and blah blah blah second cpat time, WORLD RECORD(exaggeration) Totally respect this video and your time but I get the impression you are the type who stares at themselves in the mirror flexing and grunting..
Ha! I’m old and fat, and definitely not worth ogling myself in the mirror. I am sure I have posted on other CPAT vids, usually to provide insight and advice, but if you thought I was pimpin my vid, guess that’s what I was doing.
turbotoolman I just saw a few videos of you posting your link to this and saying check out this...Not hating was just an impression but your reply makes me take that back!
which is why I walked the entire time. I even walk when I’m dragging hose, running there doesn’t help much. If you can’t tell the difference between a fast walk and a run, don’t know what to tell you sir. You can literally se my hands swinging in front me as a walkers would. Got try and run and swing your hands like that. In fact, video yourself running with a first generation GoPro and let’s compare. There will be a massive difference. Also, the machine is calibrated to be in the middle of the IAFF/IAFC spec. Do you happen to know what that specification is? Do you recalibrate yours after every testing day? Because I do, and this one is calibrated perfectly. I guess the only Th big I can tell all the naysayers is to practice swinging, because if 2 hits seems impossibly difficult you are not doing it right or the testing company you used or are part of is not using the latest equipment with a correct calibration.
This should be a fail, you have to wear gloves. Also a fail for the rope slipping through your hands on the ladder raise. Also you RAN after you did your search. Also not thats not an approved stair stepper, you cannot see your own time. As for the hose you SLUNG a lot of it when you set it down and ONLY pulled it to the first coupling. I would not have allowed this to be a passing CPAT.
Show the chicks. Trans belong in womens sport as long as quota spots in firedepartment. Seconds count and so does strength and coordination. Very sad we worry more about womens feelings than public safety.
Women can and have finished the CPAT with the same requirements as men. We did our first CPAT test this week and had all five our women cadets finish it. I’d trust my fellow brothers and SISTERS with my life, seeing how hard they’ve worked both in PT and in the classroom. They’re good people working hard to do good things. Fuck outta here with your bullshit political nonsense.
Time on step mill is key, as is farmers carry, or any type of burden walking at a 12 minute mile pace. And the biggest time killers as far as individual events go are the search and push pull. Practice those two and you can cut a lot time off. This was years ago, so I’m sure I’ve slowed down since then (best was a 6:18). But with a good speed walk I think I’ll still be under 7.
@@timothytyner410 I’m just overthinking it then . I been running miles abs sprintings hills for a while now farmers carrie’s are my favorite. Guess just got to go out there and crush it
Shawn Cunningham The FE equipment is calibrated according to the IAFF CPAT guide, which recommends a setting of 850lbs. It can actually be done in one hit, but not usually during a run when I'm hurrying. As a CPAT proctor, I can assure you, the sledge prop was reset in the correct manner. Do you have trouble completing this task in two swings Shawn?
Sorry but I was going to comment on the same thing LMAO 2 hits!!!!! LMAOOOO NO WAYYYYYY. Sorry bro your time still would have been great but this whole course was rigged to pass fire fighters.
Definitely motivation to keep training and get after it! Criticism or not, this dude’s got the endurance
To complete it in the least number of swings, using the momentum of the hammer and swing 'through' the target. I see a number of people taking short choppy swings, as if bunting in baseball, and the target does not respond well. If you can manage it with accuracy, a full swing, like hitting a home run, is best. But the biggest component is hitting the target squarely in the center (aim for a spot just above center).
The FE equipment is calibrated according to the IAFF CPAT guide, which recommends a setting of 850lbs. It can actually be done in one hit, but not usually during a run when I'm hurrying. It's as much about technique as strength.
At first I was thinking it doesn’t show him wearing the weighted vest or the shoulder weights but u can hear the Velcro on them being pulled off when he steps off the stepmill. Impressive time !!
Gotta love a good speedrun
One of the slowest times I’ve seen in a while. But here’s the thing. You’re still this side of the dirt so you still have an opportunity to get better 👊
Best comment here!!😅
@@timothytyner410 on god bruh biiiig facts
Screw that. My CPAT had grip tape on the floor for the dummy drag.
Yup same here lol
Mines on asphalt
Not supposed to be able to run between events
Fully aware of the rules, which is why I follow them.
Hello. Don’t let the negative comments get to you. Keep doing what you’re doing 👍🏽
Wow!! You're like a superhero
You didn't have to wear gloves during your test? The gloves slowed me down on lowering the ladder by the rope
Great work though!
I haven't seen Props, but I have seen The Forceable Entry Prop done in two swings by big in shape guys! Props obviously isn't your average human as we all know the CPAT is tough. Great Job Props!!
Regardless of whatever ribbing, justified or not, that you are getting over this... Good job dude.
Thank you. Bunch of jealous insecure fireman doing the complaining. They would blow a gasket if I showed them my 6:18 video. The second half of the course (everything post stepmill) can be accomplished in under 3 min. It's not a difficult test if you are fire fit (and not just a gym rat with muscles who thinks he is fit). If anything, because our course has so many twists and turns during the walking portions to achieve the 85', my time would be lower on some other courses.
Did you just grab that dummy with one hand like it was nothing?😂
That's how I do it also...I think it works better
Nice! 🧯💨🔥
thank you. I'm much slower these days. Just ran a 7:18 a few weeks back at the age of 48. I think with some practice I can get back down to the 6:40's.
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lol they didn't let me run during it!
Walked entire time. I walk fast. 10 min mile. I’ll shoot video from chest mount of me running, the difference is very obvious.
Whether he completed it correctly or not. Whether he boasts his time or not. Nobody that’s a brother to another should berate their accomplishments.
They didn't have it calibrated correctly if you took 15 swings. Plus, if it's not mounted on a solid object, much of your swing can be wasted.
in the Actual CPAT there is only 1 part where you are allowed to run.
Good thing I never ran anywhere on the course where is wasn't allowed.
Just now took the CPAT in Las Vegas.
The stairclimber was a 20 second warmup, then 3 minutes and 20 seconds. We were only allowed to run with the hose carry. Dummy drag had to be two hands only while walking backwards. We had to hit the hammer target 15 times. There is no buzzer regardless of how hard you hit the target.
Other than that, everything was the same.
I thought I was doing well until I got my time. I got 8:46 and it felt like I was flying through it...I guess not.
They are not doing the official CPAT correctly. The CPAT manual is very clear on the parameters of the test. LV should be careful that they don’t lose their license. With the extra stipulations they placed on it, your time is very respectable.
That is absolutely disgusting of a run. This is nuts.
Thank you!
This was not an actual CPAT test, just a Training Officer demonstrating for some HR personnel.
Then why title the video "CPAT record 6:24"?
Do tests count as records (records that stand with actual CPATS)? If so, why?
Is this the record for CPAT demos that are sent to HR (like to make ads or something)? If so, why?
If it is not an actual test, and it is not done with the same rules, can you really call it a record then?
If this is not an actual test but a demo of the actual test given to HR, shouldnt you do the test in full, with full effort, and full gear (i guess you need gloves? Idk not a fireman or anything, just read that alot here) since im assuming you are supposed to be giving to HR as a demo so they understand what the test is in action.
If you actually end up reading all of this and answering, thatd be cool. Also im only asking because the title and the comments you have responded to people with seem to contradict one another or are phrased in a way where one could assume such a thing (hence the comment)
@@kage3587 why are you so bothered by it? As far as I can tell, this dude's performance doesn't affect your standing one bit. It doesn't bump you from a hiring process, it doesn't prevent you from getting into an academy, and it sure as hell doesn't lead to you getting terminated from a fire department. So, please, shut the fuck up and just tip your hat to the guy. Jesus H. Christ!
only 2 hits with the sledgehammer?
indeed.
Good job on keeping your breathing under control and not letting the stairs kick your ass, I assume this wasn't for qualification since you didn't have gloves on and were jogging, but gray job man, that test is an ass kicker
No jogging. Just a quick walk.
ok cool thanx
what technique would u recommend for the forcible entry
This was not an actual test. Just a demonstration.
Care to expound on why you feel the course is lame? Also, what stations do you feel were left unfinished?
Honestly the damn stairs seem to be a bitch since you can’t hold onto the rail. That shit looks to be hardest part.
I did mine in 6:10
what speed is the stair master set at?
60 steps a minute for two minutes
first 20 seconds are approximately 50 steps a minute. The timed portion (3 minutes) is at approximately 60 steps a minute. As Stairmaster has different values for different models of StepMills, your results may vary.
However impressive that was. He was not wearing gloves, requirement by IAFF/IAFC. for two hits on the FE I would have to verify the required 850 psi setting on the testing head. Other than that, WOW. WELL DONE.
yeah, it was just a sample to show HR. I also did not have a helmet on. But I personally calibrate the FE machine before every event, it is indeed at ~850psi.
When you go through the tunnel are there any obstacles inside or is it clear path to navigate ?
There are obstacles yes. Some things to crawl over and under. Some tight areas as well, but nothing crazy. We do it with SCBA on as well, so there’s lots of room.
Where was this taken? Reason I ask is that the only testing course we have around here just started using rubber mats under the hose drag. With the added friction now, the hose weighs more than I do and I was pulling my body out of the box and the hose wasn't moving. I had to spend a lot of time and energy jerking it (lol). They used to just have the concrete floors and I'd have 2 minutes to spare at the end of the test, no problems. Two days later, I stretched on a house with 200' of 1 3/4" hose up a cement driveway and around to the C side of the house without any issue whatsoever. I was a bit pissed about spending $180 this time around, and I missed it by 7 seconds. My observation was that only dudes 200 lbs+ were passing the day I took it. I weigh 175. I'm all for a standardized test, but this one seemed a good way to collect everyone's money. I've passed it 6 times no problems, but has anyone else had mats added to the course? Just curious.
Every video I see has bare concrete floors, and the Manual says the floor can mimic "unpolished concrete". Textured rubber mats DO NOT mimic unpolished concrete.
The IAFC is quite specific on the parameters of the CPAT. The place with rubber mats should be investigated. Go to the IAFC website and you can report them.
no gloves?
I got 6:25 on my cpat.
Nice work! Great time!
I respect a good CPAT time as much as the next guy, but your course raises some major red flags. Like fdny600 said, that FE station is a beast. I've seen it done in two swings, but that's a rarity. And there is no chance that was 200' of hose. Sorry man.
Your other comment was not exactly what I would refer to as respectful, but I digress. The forcible entry station is set to the IAFF recommendations, and calibrated routinely. The last 50' foot of hose may have been left off for this demonstration, but it never moves, and therefore has zero effect on the overall time.
What other major red flags are you referring to? I assure you the FE equipment is calibrated as it should be, and thanks to my diligence, the latest Stairmaster received updated software so that it more closely conforms to the IAFF step counts. The course is laid out with 85' between each station, all equipment and mannequin weights are within spec, all equipment was purchased to the exact specifications of the IAFF.
Bro! No gloves, 2 hit FE, and 1/4 of the hose drag station are missing. Do it the way the rest of North America and brag about your 7 minute time. It is still very good time. But if you are going to brag about your time, you have to expect criticism.
John Noah
Ok, I will not swing the sledge as accurately or forcefully next time. I will wear gloves, heavens knows how much time I shaved off by having bare palms. And the 50' of the hose station that never moves from it's starting position, I will be sure you can see that as well. When I run it that way in under 6:10, what criticism can I expect then bro?
I will send you a BCFD patch. Honest injun. But consider this. The 50' section weighs 19 lbs and you will definetly feel the drag. It is only going to add a few seconds. But the only reason I picked up on that was how fast you were pulling the hose!
no way you did the forcible entry in 2 swings like that. I took mine recently and passed in 8:20 and it took me about 10 swings to make it go off and I'm an in shape guy
What can I say that I haven't already? Machine is calibrated correctly. I've proctored hundreds of CPAT tests. Many candidates take 7-10 hits on the forcible entry. As someone who has spent most of his life swinging sledgehammers and axes and doing manual labor, the forcible entry prop is something I very comfortable with. If you can get access to a CPAT practice, spend some time perfecting your swing and I bet you can get down to 3-4 swings. I'm 6'1", 240lbs, and run the CPAT in 6:18.
I've seen it done in 2 hits from some strong guys
I have seen it done in 2-3 swings many times. Most guys just don't know how to swing a hammer. F=M*A. It's not about swinging hard, it's about getting the mass moving as fast as possible. It's also way in the carnival games they always hand you a heavy hammer. If you want to ring the bell, grab the light one and get it moving as fast as possible.
2 hits for the sledge hammer? our station was way harder( 10-15 hits )
Then it was not calibrated correctly or you are very unskilled with a sledgehammer.
yeah i took mine today and managed to do it in 6 or 7 hits. there was people that did it in 15-20 though.
Turbo Toolman no some stations just require that many hits period
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Props, but two strikes on forcible entry? What did u have it calibrated to?
850-900psi
I know this is years later, i totally respect that time, its better than mine. I just searched a few videos of cpat and you are all over them just talking about this guy who had an amazing 6 minute and blah blah blah second cpat time, WORLD RECORD(exaggeration) Totally respect this video and your time but I get the impression you are the type who stares at themselves in the mirror flexing and grunting..
Ha! I’m old and fat, and definitely not worth ogling myself in the mirror. I am sure I have posted on other CPAT vids, usually to provide insight and advice, but if you thought I was pimpin my vid, guess that’s what I was doing.
turbotoolman I just saw a few videos of you posting your link to this and saying check out this...Not hating was just an impression but your reply makes me take that back!
Thought you arent suppose to run? Plus, 2 hits for the sledge hammer, that’s rigged for sure
which is why I walked the entire time. I even walk when I’m dragging hose, running there doesn’t help much. If you can’t tell the difference between a fast walk and a run, don’t know what to tell you sir. You can literally se my hands swinging in front me as a walkers would. Got try and run and swing your hands like that. In fact, video yourself running with a first generation GoPro and let’s compare. There will be a massive difference. Also, the machine is calibrated to be in the middle of the IAFF/IAFC spec. Do you happen to know what that specification is? Do you recalibrate yours after every testing day? Because I do, and this one is calibrated perfectly. I guess the only Th big I can tell all the naysayers is to practice swinging, because if 2 hits seems impossibly difficult you are not doing it right or the testing company you used or are part of is not using the latest equipment with a correct calibration.
Calibrated correctly. No running. Video clearly shows me walking.
This should be a fail, you have to wear gloves. Also a fail for the rope slipping through your hands on the ladder raise. Also you RAN after you did your search. Also not thats not an approved stair stepper, you cannot see your own time. As for the hose you SLUNG a lot of it when you set it down and ONLY pulled it to the first coupling. I would not have allowed this to be a passing CPAT.
Which CPAT testing site are you associated with?
You are only supposed to pull it to the first coupling. You FAIL as a proctor.
And what crack are you smoking, no rope slippage on the ladder. Jealous much?
Not an approved stair stepper? You have no clue what you are talking about
You can't have rope slippage, you're the idiot lol
Show the chicks. Trans belong in womens sport as long as quota spots in firedepartment. Seconds count and so does strength and coordination. Very sad we worry more about womens feelings than public safety.
Women can and have finished the CPAT with the same requirements as men. We did our first CPAT test this week and had all five our women cadets finish it. I’d trust my fellow brothers and SISTERS with my life, seeing how hard they’ve worked both in PT and in the classroom. They’re good people working hard to do good things.
Fuck outta here with your bullshit political nonsense.
Lame course and not even completing the stations... Fail.
You sir are whack.
I call bullshit
Because you are so much slower?
Tf you can’t run
God thing I walked. I even walked dragging the hose, the one place you are allowed to run. I’d knock 30 more seconds off if I ran.
@@timothytyner410 looks like you ran , but you just sped walk I see . Good shit. How’d you prepare ?
Time on step mill is key, as is farmers carry, or any type of burden walking at a 12 minute mile pace. And the biggest time killers as far as individual events go are the search and push pull. Practice those two and you can cut a lot time off. This was years ago, so I’m sure I’ve slowed down since then (best was a 6:18). But with a good speed walk I think I’ll still be under 7.
@@timothytyner410 I’m just overthinking it then . I been running miles abs sprintings hills for a while now farmers carrie’s are my favorite. Guess just got to go out there and crush it
@@timothytyner410 thanks brother
2 hits on the sledge I doubt it, they prob didn't reset it correctly
Shawn Cunningham The FE equipment is calibrated according to the IAFF CPAT guide, which recommends a setting of 850lbs. It can actually be done in one hit, but not usually during a run when I'm hurrying. As a CPAT proctor, I can assure you, the sledge prop was reset in the correct manner. Do you have trouble completing this task in two swings Shawn?
Sorry but I was going to comment on the same thing LMAO 2 hits!!!!! LMAOOOO NO WAYYYYYY. Sorry bro your time still would have been great but this whole course was rigged to pass fire fighters.
well if you are following the IAFF CPAT guide, you should know you are required to wear gloves. Nice try.
You guys are so completely lost, I can not help your ignorance. 850 psi, recalibrated before every event.
but don't we train like we fight?.. why doesn't that apply here?? Do we train without our SCBA but use it for the real deal??