The Master's Role was Foretold by FFXIII?!

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  • @thegummiphone
    @thegummiphone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    This is the best break down of Etro’s origins I have seen on TH-cam this far. Also thanks for the shoutout. ;D

    • @iAyeCaptainKai
      @iAyeCaptainKai  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm thinking since I went through the efforts of upscaling it I might redo the original (standalone) to breathe new life into it c:

    • @sh4d0wfl4re
      @sh4d0wfl4re 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Your videos pointed me at this channel, and I’ve had fun watching iAyeCaptainKai play through FNC while exploring the deep lore

    • @Growmetheus
      @Growmetheus 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Seriously, just try navigating the wiki, youll know less every page

  • @SuperHalo-rn4rr
    @SuperHalo-rn4rr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    What's funny is, Sora literally looks like Hope in KH4. And The box (as what Luxord was told) has "hope" in it. Just the way things are set up so far, I'm feeling KH4 is going to be heavily based on FFv13 and FF13.

    • @iAyeCaptainKai
      @iAyeCaptainKai  2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      This paired with Vanille telling hope "No, I'm sure you would of wound up here. Don't you remember you promised me?" He's confused asking when he did and she says "oh idk, another life time maybe?"
      Sparks a lot of thoughts for sure

    • @Vayne_Solidor
      @Vayne_Solidor 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's Hopes hair for me.

    • @CourtneyHartman-mm5zz
      @CourtneyHartman-mm5zz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Like Pandora's box

  • @TaigaXsenpai
    @TaigaXsenpai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I have a feeling that Kingdom Hearts is still connected to Fabula Nova crystalis.
    I mean Lightning reincarnating in our world clearly hints it.
    Japanese love trains and often present them in spiritual meaning.

    • @MementoDespair
      @MementoDespair ปีที่แล้ว +2

      we might see Lightning in KH4, Sora is in literal Shibuya, could be the same earth or atleast connected

  • @sh4d0wfl4re
    @sh4d0wfl4re 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Yeah the people in the Final World really do resemble Ceith stones whatwith that wallowing in regret

    • @iAyeCaptainKai
      @iAyeCaptainKai  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      See, I thought that until I reread through some of the Nameless star dialogue. At least two of them say they have no regrets. someone else brought up the fact that it could be the "Nightmare" equivalent to the Crystal's "Dream"

  • @Everythingwillsurelybealright
    @Everythingwillsurelybealright 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I found this video randomly but the amount of connections you found really surprised me! What a great premise.

    • @iAyeCaptainKai
      @iAyeCaptainKai  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And we're just getting started 😏
      I have a ton of brain rot notes jotted down LOL There's even some stuff I didn't point out in this video that are still worth mentioning in the future~ I was just trying to get it out so I could start on 13-2.... and there's so much more to analyze there it's INSANE

  • @TruMaverick
    @TruMaverick 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    As a fan of both games.
    The secret connection of all FF and KH go so much deeper.
    The secrets I know

  • @cannedfrogg8471
    @cannedfrogg8471 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm so glad to see that I'm not the only one making connections with FNC. Like, most people made the connection with crystal stasis but there's SO MUCH stuff. "Oracle Drives" being "Books of Prophecies" in Japanese, "Focus" also sharing the same name as the roles given by the Master. Hearts being made of Chaos and returning to it upon death (just replace Chaos with darkness). The eyes of Etro being similar to the MoM's gazing eye. It can't be a coincidence.
    I would also recommend delving into Type-0 since there has been some connections made by some people, notably the foretellers being similar to some members of class zero and the Daybreak Town pendulum being a 1:1 rectreation of a glass window from Type-0.
    Amazing video btw!

    • @iAyeCaptainKai
      @iAyeCaptainKai  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      OH yes, I plan on making my way through all of the FNC games 😈
      Started with 15 (though it's connections to FNC are minimal, it started out as a Nomura project and that was enough to interest me). Now the 13 trilogy, then Type 0. I have interest in TWEWY as well, but I'm gonna make sure I'm delicate with that one cause I know TWEWY fans have had enough of obsessive KH fans acting like it's canon to Kingdom Hearts LOL

  • @theXVNDER
    @theXVNDER 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is one of my favorite theories ever. I love how in depth you got with everything. I’m so excited for you to finish the trilogy and to see what else blows your mind to confetti for content 😄💙

  • @ginsol
    @ginsol 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your video just came up in my recommended and I’m so glad it did:)

  • @zichithefox4781
    @zichithefox4781 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    KH4 would be an amazing opening into more FF and SE properties overall. Considering Quadratum's likeness to Shibuya, I personally think we may very well meet the TWEWY characters again. As for the MoM, it wouldn't surprise me if Nomura has left hints of his role in his other works, especially the unfinished Versus XIII, considering how much lore is built up around him with so little context.

  • @EterniaWolf
    @EterniaWolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There are serious scary similarities between Kingdom Hearts and the Fabula Nova Crystallis saga. Seriously look into Type-0 and Agito as well. Someone on Tumblr wrote an entire document on the similarities between characters/world of Type-0 and Agito to Kingdom Hearts. It is a super interesting read, and made me firmly believe that Kingdom Hearts is definitely somehow inspired by the Fabula Nova Crystallis saga.

    • @danieloftamriel
      @danieloftamriel ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ohh yeah, the Clocktower from Agito XIII/Type-0 is the same one from Union Cross right? I remember the stories were also very similar too. How exciting!

    • @zichithefox4781
      @zichithefox4781 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's too much Latin and mythology introduced in KHUX and KH3 for there not to be these parallels. Nomura is really high-fiving his own work for the next chapter in Kingdom Hearts. I'm super excited for it, I just hope it doesn't become a retelling of another story shaped as Kingdom Hearts. Though he did say we'll still be able to recognize it as a Kingdom Hearts game, so I'm still hyped.

  • @thegummiphone
    @thegummiphone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ahhhh farther in the video and I’m freaking out. Very impressive observations my man!

  • @TaigaXsenpai
    @TaigaXsenpai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Fun fact in japanese version of Final Fantasy XIII we have the same concept of heart, soul and body.
    In japanese version when Lightning faces Bhunivelse
    Lightning: "You took Hope soul, but what did you do with his heart"
    Bhunivelse: "Your hearts are invisible to me"

    • @iAyeCaptainKai
      @iAyeCaptainKai  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's sad that some things get lost in translation 😔 but I'll have to keep it in mind going forward

  • @NoobSaibotMaster-21
    @NoobSaibotMaster-21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I feel like Kingdom hearts is inevitable and it will happen i think sora will understand that and give in to see what happens

  • @sonicrocks2007
    @sonicrocks2007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You should do World of Final Fantasy ( WoFF ) and stranger of paradise parallels and other numora games. In Woff. There was a girl who time traveled and changed fate / history and was cursed by to become a demon and she lost her name and lives by doors and gates and able to summon people from other worlds including Sora and Cloud

    • @iAyeCaptainKai
      @iAyeCaptainKai  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those are definitely on my to-do list!

    • @sonicrocks2007
      @sonicrocks2007 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@iAyeCaptainKai
      For sure. This is what I was thinking
      Woff parrels
      Woff's so girl forget her name / tama and kh's sora. - both abuse power of time travel, can summon, get cast out of their home world, and travel by doors and gates, lose memories or body or form
      Woffs Realm of Fantasy and kh's quadtrum - other realms associated with non reality.
      WOFF'S Mirages and kh's data and dark versions of characters. Both games have alternative characters of main character that are possessed or may have another forms from Crystals
      Final fantasy Dissidia similarities.
      Starts off as simple good vs evil multiverse battle. But then morality becomes screwed when bad guys fight a long heroes. Like sephrioth prophetically saying he will work with cloud to maintain balance against shenryu. Like Xenhort and Sora. They may not be pure darkness or light. Numura is now not as black and white in his morality as he used to be.

  • @nrwcoco
    @nrwcoco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm not a Kingdom Hearts fan, so youtube probably suggested your video because it knows how obsessed I am with FF XIII. So I'm interested in more connections and I'm looking forward to those videos. I love stuff like this. :)

    • @iAyeCaptainKai
      @iAyeCaptainKai  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hopefully the Kingdom Hearts brain rot doesn't sour the Final Fantasy fans taste buds too much 😜
      But yeah, most of my videos so far have been about the different bits of lore that tie into KH from FF. Like World of Ruin, and Crystal Stasis and now Fabula Nova Crystallis.
      After I finish 13-2 and 13-3 then Type 0, I plan to explore The World Ends with You... But I want to be as respectful as possible with that one, cause from what I've seen, TWEWY fans are tired of obsessive Kingdom Hearts fans hahaha 🤣

    • @nrwcoco
      @nrwcoco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@iAyeCaptainKai Well, the Fans of Fabula Nova Crystallis and especially the Final Fantasy 13 Fans are always pleased to read or hear neutral, positive or interesting things like this. Since these games get too much hate.
      And don't worry, i do enjoy the KH story and listening to theories, I just can't play those games. xD

  • @DyxoXinoro
    @DyxoXinoro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    >tfw Nomura is so obsessed with recreating Versus XIII within Verum Rex/Quadratum that he's even potentially turning Kingdom Hearts 4 into the unofficial fifth(/sixth, depending on how thematic weight much you put into Somnus still being the main theme of 15) Fabula Nova Chrysalis game
    He can't keep getting away with this

    • @iAyeCaptainKai
      @iAyeCaptainKai  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think FF15 is still technically in the realm of FNC, specifically because it notes on Etro.... but it didn't feel as important when I played it. I think Nomura wishes he could of utilized FNC and is working towards that for sure

    • @Nega_rell
      @Nega_rell 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂weight much?

  • @pastelghost9978
    @pastelghost9978 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i actually am starting to wish that this theory is legit qwq

  • @CourtneyHartman-mm5zz
    @CourtneyHartman-mm5zz 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sigurd always seemed suspicious to me watching the union x cutscenes. How did he even know Brain was going to be there?! He's gotta be a spy and Brain will have to time travel to escape from Sigurd

  • @ZeranZeran
    @ZeranZeran 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I can't help but hear the god's name as Lindsay with a sassy tone and it makes it much better.
    KH / FF lore is insane with its connections to norse, greek, ancient latin religions and belief systems. So cool.
    Okay, now* I'm gonna shut up and watch this. Loving your videos!

    • @iAyeCaptainKai
      @iAyeCaptainKai  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Happy to hear 😈 enjoy your stay

  • @eugenioasanchezperez1406
    @eugenioasanchezperez1406 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    almost the whole team creating FF Versus 13 was the Kingdom Hearts team . btw the foretellers and MoM are FOR NOW the antagonist but I bet you a thousand bucks that theres is a new antagonist waiting in the shadows and will be reveal when the game releases, probably in its final world too.

    • @coolchannelize15
      @coolchannelize15 ปีที่แล้ว

      So you saying the master of masters isn’t the real bad bad guy? 👀 and there’s another real real bad guy the true mastermind?

    • @eugenioasanchezperez1406
      @eugenioasanchezperez1406 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@coolchannelize15 thats exactly what im saying. As a matter of fact it wouldnt make any sense if the master was the main antagonist either way if it was confirmed or not, after dark road is kinda obvious theres something else going on and nobodys tqlking about it

    • @coolchannelize15
      @coolchannelize15 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eugenioasanchezperez1406 Hmmm 🤔 you may be on to something but we’ll see

  • @TheInterplanetary
    @TheInterplanetary 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What drives me is that the story of Fabula Nova Crystallis and most of the Final Fantasy universes/worlds are heavily influenced by Gnostic texts. Shin Megami Tensei and Persona are the same way, but even more directly as the final boss is literally Yaldabaoth in P5 (Yaldabaoth would be the spiritual equivalent of Bhunivelze here). In a way they are telling a very truthful tale, not in terms of what really happened but in terms of what our spiritual masters have uncovered over the years.

    • @iAyeCaptainKai
      @iAyeCaptainKai  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've been reading into Hermeticism and you're on the nose with saying they're inspired by Gnostic ideas. They literally refer to Hermes as the Master of Masters and also his 7 principals as doors that require a magic key!
      I plan on making a video about this but man my mind is being blown nonstop this past year

  • @shadkuroi
    @shadkuroi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also, The clock from Daybreak town looks lot like one from Type0
    And Sora's new hair? Looks a lot like Hope bruh, specially in the back

    • @iAyeCaptainKai
      @iAyeCaptainKai  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's makes the idea of hope being in the box so funny to me.

  • @TheInterplanetary
    @TheInterplanetary 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just came across this channel today. Love your connections!

  • @denisekieffer3612
    @denisekieffer3612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You know honestly the crystal stasis material reminds me of what Xion was made of in 358 days. You should check out her cutscene called “tears”!

    • @iAyeCaptainKai
      @iAyeCaptainKai  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wow I never really realized what was happening~ but Kairi has the same sort of effect in KH3 when Xehanort slashes her so I'm not sure what to make of this atm 🤯 definitely going to be in the back of my mind

    • @denisekieffer3612
      @denisekieffer3612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@iAyeCaptainKai yeah I went and rewatched that scene to confirm what it reminded me of and yeah. There was also speculation floating around that Xion has a resemblance to skuld, which in norse mythology is a part of a triad goddesses of fate, particularly future in the case of skuld. And skuld is sorta referenced to as a “goddess” coming from the light of kingdom hearts by chirithy in union cross (you actually used this cutscene in this video :)) and idk if this is just an odd observation bc Xion has an uncanny intuition about the actual kingdom hearts moon in KH3, when everyone’s in the graveyard trying to keep an opening within kingdom hearts, Xion is the first one to notice any changes within kingdom hearts itself and then tells others about it. Tbh I think Xion has a more implied role than just being a replica of soras memory of Kairi. The resemblances of her and skuld are too similar and she’s just a super unique character

    • @denisekieffer3612
      @denisekieffer3612 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iAyeCaptainKai hey Kai, another thought that just crossed my mind, I believe there’s a theory that Kairi inherited avas heart much like terra inherited xehanorts heart, like the passing of inheritance. And Kairi once died, with a strong will she separated and produced namine, a witch over soras memories. Perhaps guiding Sora to a safe place to protect him from MoM plans (she’s considered a traitor) in Chain of memories, though she’s a unique nobody, she does have this unique trait that covets both Sora and Riku’s attention: greed. The sin in which Ava is personified of. There’s another theory that the Lech in KH3 is Avas heartless, theorized to be leading Sora to a safe place much like she was trying to do for the union leaders. You also see in the cutscenes for the lech that Sora IS in a Crystal stasis form. So in theory....
      Ava’s heart rests within Kairi (who is suspected to be her grandmother) namine is still Kairis nobody, but takes after the appearance and personality of Ava, a defiant and unique nobody (much like the case of roxas and Sora and Ventus) The lech WOULD be avas heartless, having a way of controlling soras heart and the memories that build it. Perhaps the reasons why she didn’t show up with Luxu at the end is because she wasn’t fully recompleted, being that Namine is in a vessel and both heartless and nobody need to be destroyed to be recompleted, thus being defiant and unique to her own strong will to defy MoM’s plans, covertly working along with Luxu to go against MoM plans.
      Let me know what you think!

    • @denisekieffer3612
      @denisekieffer3612 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iAyeCaptainKai there’s also a good chance for the same type of situation for avas heart being in Kairi as Skulds heart lying within Sora. This is perhaps why Sora though referenced as a mere boy is such an unexpected threat to xehanort/luxu/MoM is because the fact that the “future” of kingdom hearts literally lies within him, being that skuld is some agent of the future of such as subject X. We know subject X and Kairi were both experimented on by Xehanort when he worked under Ansem and knowing that there may have been attempts of “Norting” Skuld in order to have some hold over kingdom hearts, but failing in the process (a good leader know he has no control over destiny and accepts it) heart and body separates, perhaps skulds heart found her way into Sora, and perhaps her nobody was experimented on if contained as a means to make replicas. This explains Xions similar appearance to skuld but also has Soras eyes, much like roxas looks like Ven but has more of soras facial features. And Xions personality acts as an Anti form of Skuld, reversing Soras future by containing all of what makes Sora him, his memories and past, something that Namine would need to have to give him a future (the reasons why she has difficulty piecing his memories together when Xion was in exsistence) this also could explain why Skuld may not be recompleted yet is because Xion has a vessel.
      I think the only way possible for either Ava or Skuld to completely exist from Namine and Xion is Soras unique ability to give life to vessels separate from the hearts that they were molded from (I.e. roxas and Ventus)

    • @iAyeCaptainKai
      @iAyeCaptainKai  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@denisekieffer3612 Following that thought, do you think Kairi's defeat and Namine's heart then reaching The Final World could of served as a catalyst to bring back Ava? 🤔 (unless you literally said that and I missed it LOL long day)

  • @Bexrune
    @Bexrune 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hiiiiiii CAPTIAN !!!!!!!! I love you !!!!!!!!!!!

  • @f.prince6642
    @f.prince6642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    After seeing the yazora failure screen I had personal connections to FF13. Hype train!

  • @flygonkerel781
    @flygonkerel781 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I need to replay the 13 trilogy. 13 was too boring but I liked 13-2 and LR

    • @iAyeCaptainKai
      @iAyeCaptainKai  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Valid, 13-2 starts off so strong. 13-1 felt like it was just there to build the characters and world

  • @Prowler142
    @Prowler142 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    May the goddess smile upon you.

  • @SuperPandaKisser
    @SuperPandaKisser 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've been thinking about this for such a long time! I'm glad someone is covering it!

  • @adonaiblackwood
    @adonaiblackwood 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing!

  • @kab365
    @kab365 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yyeeaaahh I know somethings up in one of my videos😁

  • @IlMemetor72
    @IlMemetor72 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A FFXIII fan?

    • @iAyeCaptainKai
      @iAyeCaptainKai  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It served it's purpose to get me excited for 13-2 for sure! I also really enjoyed the combat 💙

  • @george_MF_washington
    @george_MF_washington 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ff13 had so much cool stuff. The gameplay was just so boring and the story was unnecessarily complicated with dull characters… I really only liked lightning

    • @iAyeCaptainKai
      @iAyeCaptainKai  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I also had some pretty negative feelings towards FF13 before investing time into understanding it.
      Hopefully this doesn't come off as argumentative, cause that's not my intent. This is just how my feelings changed after diving into the lore:
      FF13 is the world building needed for 13-2 (though I think if 13-2 was the introduction to the series then I think people would love 13. The intro sequence was insane)
      Lightning is as badass if not more so than Cloud
      Hope's character development is great. Cry baby > Defenseless child > Finds a role model in Lightning and becomes eager to fiend for himself.
      Snow isn't exactly my favorite, but I can appreciate him being what Lightning needed to see her own flaws.
      Sahz unfortunately his motives are revealed a little late, but the foreshadowing done was great
      Vanille & Fang are far from dull but I wouldn't want to spoil
      The only thing I see being complicated is the understanding of fal'cie, l'cie and cieth.
      Think of cie as a root word and it's pretty simple from there. Fal and l being prefixes to that word. while th is a suffix.
      Fal(cie) = Master
      l(cie) = Servant
      (cie)th = failure
      We can apply meaning to the word "cie" if we wanted. I think the best fit would be "Lifeform"
      Sometimes they'll refer to Fal'cie as Pulse Fal'cie or Cocoon Fal'cie, but that's simply referring to where the Master is from, their home.
      There's not much I can say for the gameplay, it's easy to hate on an auto battle system. But I did enjoy strategizing what roles worked well together~