I agree. You can set up an entire wall of snipers and all it takes is one skimmer getting just that little bit too close and your entire base dies. The stun effect is bad enough, but the fact that they also drop creep like eggs if they aren't sniped is just insult to injury. Also they are fast.
It's really nice to have one series that progresses like Dysmantle, & one that's just totally self-contained like Creeper World 4. It's such a good balance that also allows for fun one-off videos of the little gems Tom finds, too.
@@Travminer123 not their cup of tea i suppose, it happens. as much as i enjoy the dysmantle stuff, even im guilty of skipping over some tom content just because i had no interest in the game
We’ve finally seen it all: Skimmer tornado, enough Spores to blot out the sun, and an endless army of Blobs. Now all we need is to fill the sky with Air Sacs
I love that this is the first tiem Tom's really seen skimmers make land. This map had way less snipers than I'm used to, man does it make a differencE!
Hahaha, that 8:59 edit got a good laugh from me. Nice to see another Creeper World 4 video, especially after I played a PAC map last night and found how powerful a critical mass of Skimmers becomes in these types of maps.
I made this map whilst getting drunk a couple of weeks ago. TBH i was kinda hoping it might appear in a vid. Stoked he played it and didnt mention the fact i missed a word in the ADA log (it should have said "whatever you do" but i didnt notice until it was uploaded). I only started playing creeper world 4 because of watching Toms videos, so yay
I'm glad you have seen the ways of the skimmer. Skimmers are superior to blobs by an order of magnitude...you can't stop a skimmer, even in death they wreck havoc on those who have shot them down, retribution is always coming, there is not stopping the skimmer wave...Abandon all hope ye who has set your gaze upon them.
Blobs can destroy structures and have twice as much HP as skimmers... however destroyed structures are easily replaced with such energy generation numbers.
Greenar mothers count as structures, so the skimmers will gravitate towards them but be unable to stun them, resulting in them endlessly skimming about.
Hay Tom if you like creeper world i bet you would love particle fleet emergence! Its made by the developers of creeper world and its a really great game!
The reason the Skimmers were congregating there was because the game's AI considers the Greenar Mother a human structure even though it is a natural resource. edit: If you set the spores to fire at random structures, they will target the Greenar Mothers if there is nothing else to target.
I have watched other youtubers play creeper world beteeen toms releases but it just isnt the same. Cant tell you how excited i was when i saw this in my notifications
An interesting thing to add to play as creeper is a breeder virus. The virus would slowly convert mesh that it is connected to into more breeder virus and the more virus surrounding a piece of virus the more it produces minimum could be 1 every ten seconds and max could be 1 every second
"We must seize the means of production. How does that sound?" - Tom, 2022 It all sounds a bit communist to me, Tom. America wants to know your location.
Used to love watching your creeper world videos and then i got bored of them and now I’m so happy again whenever a new video comes out, I’m bipolar for you and this game
Daily reminder that Tom is an amazing person and to thank him for all he has done/will do - Day 782 Ha ha, don't worry my Map Maker, we will believe :D God, those Spores XD I mean, you say it like the princess becoming a robot is a bad thing My goodness, those Skimmers. Life, errr, life finds a way
Did Tom listen to my suggestion of "Skimmers Everywhere" that I made on his last CW4 video. Going by the title... maybe. Lets watch this shit and find out. Ok so... it wasn't my comment it was just sheer dumb luck that he discovered the OP nature of the Skimmer wave. Maybe he will see this one for the future though. Tactics... -Set up generation. Backline emitters -Direct forces with Field Gens -Egg gen or 2 in strategic positions to facilitate waves -SKIMMERS EVERYWHERE Win almost all maps. Oh yeah and if you aren't using erns for anything else they should be down as Emitters. Never have erns that aren't being used. More emitters means more SKIMMERS when you are using these weapons that consume creep. Just to explain... skimmers reposition your creep. The weapons absorb the creep and then release it contained in the skimmers which target structures. Not only that but they also temporarily disable surrounding structures allowing the re positioned creep to inflict max damage. The only thing that you need to consider is anticreep as skimmers will not do so well in it and the re positioned creep may well be destroyed quite quickly. This isn't too much of a worry though as your back line with emitters, field gens and eggs should also be pushing upon disabled turrets.
Tom, i keep seeing you make the same mistake all the time on these PAC maps, not putting down mesh where you should. non-mesh land impedes the flow of creep as it has a natural "resistance". white mesh allows creep to flow over easier, and once it has a value of 1 creep over the 3x3 tile grid, it turns blue which removes all creep flowing resistance, and provides a passive 0.1 creep per second generation on the 3x3 tile. this makes holding territory easier once you have claimed it because it allows creep to stay over the spot preventing it from turning white again, which impedes the flow of creep of entering it. un-meshed land also "removes" creep at a slow rate. so if you do not mesh an area, you are losing creep at a slow rate. so, mesh removes the passive erasing of creep, allows very low creep creation, and allows it to flow over those tiles easier. it makes it much harder for you to lose the area due to the increased flow rate of creep over it. if you want to channel creep for a specific purpose, thats fine, but you really need to mesh a LOT more on these PAC maps.
Mesh does NOT create creeper. That's just nonsense. Then again I've been seeing some 0.0001 creeper values on mesh persist for long times, so idk. Mesh holds quite some creeper which keeps it out of battle. Also, the unmeshed land removing creep only happens because of rounding down to 0 if there's very thin creeper, and is irrelevant in the bigger picture. Meshing everything just means you're delaying your creeper's progress as you're containing it within the mesh.
@@trickygamer555 If that was as you say, then wouldn't that only be a temporary "one time flat fee" of sorts? You pay the price of a tiny smidge of creep now, for the benefit of much faster creep movement from now on? I think that might make it still be worthwhile even if it doesn't generate anything.
Once again Tom just keeps looking around the map, not doing anything while upwards of a dozen ern power just burns a hole in his pocket. Tom, Just slap down a pile of emitters while you plan, then clean them up after to do whatever.
I've heard it said that Skimmers are one of the strongest units in the game since there's no real counter to them once they reach critical mass.
I agree. You can set up an entire wall of snipers and all it takes is one skimmer getting just that little bit too close and your entire base dies. The stun effect is bad enough, but the fact that they also drop creep like eggs if they aren't sniped is just insult to injury. Also they are fast.
I absolutely love the recent Dysmantle, but Creeper World 4 videos will never fail to make my day.
I absolutely love creeper world, but Dismantle videos never fail to ruin my day.
It's really nice to have one series that progresses like Dysmantle, & one that's just totally self-contained like Creeper World 4.
It's such a good balance that also allows for fun one-off videos of the little gems Tom finds, too.
@@rottin_3669 they ruin ur day? u don't like them?
@@Travminer123 not their cup of tea i suppose, it happens. as much as i enjoy the dysmantle stuff, even im guilty of skipping over some tom content just because i had no interest in the game
@@Travminer123 yeah it makes me sadder when tom uploads a video I dont like as much.
We’ve finally seen it all: Skimmer tornado, enough Spores to blot out the sun, and an endless army of Blobs. Now all we need is to fill the sky with Air Sacs
I think the green nodes counts as a "building" so skims and spores home in on em
I love that this is the first tiem Tom's really seen skimmers make land. This map had way less snipers than I'm used to, man does it make a differencE!
You have my attention to see how in the hell you made a tornado out of skimmers
What a lovely skimmer tornado 17:25
I love how Tom keeps doing the "Play as Creep" maps because he loves playing the bad guy with a horde of trashy little evil minions.
Hahaha, that 8:59 edit got a good laugh from me.
Nice to see another Creeper World 4 video, especially after I played a PAC map last night and found how powerful a critical mass of Skimmers becomes in these types of maps.
That skimmer cyclone was a weird thing. Add that to the the list of "things never seen before"
YAY, another creeper world video!
Always fun to watch...
Is Tom realizing the skimmer is strong finally?!
Honestly Skimmers range of utility and delivery of some creep is just so strong.
Was rewatching old creeper world videos today waiting for a new one. What do you know there is.
"I can't like, goof around to much"
Just sitting on an unused ERN
It hurts me how he just sits around with 7 extra ERN power doing nothing when he could at least put down an emitter.
10:47 That damn blitzkrieg of Creep ordinance is absurd.
By far my favorite series on this channel
I made this map whilst getting drunk a couple of weeks ago. TBH i was kinda hoping it might appear in a vid. Stoked he played it and didnt mention the fact i missed a word in the ADA log (it should have said "whatever you do" but i didnt notice until it was uploaded). I only started playing creeper world 4 because of watching Toms videos, so yay
I'm glad you have seen the ways of the skimmer. Skimmers are superior to blobs by an order of magnitude...you can't stop a skimmer, even in death they wreck havoc on those who have shot them down, retribution is always coming, there is not stopping the skimmer wave...Abandon all hope ye who has set your gaze upon them.
Blobs can destroy structures and have twice as much HP as skimmers... however destroyed structures are easily replaced with such energy generation numbers.
Greenar mothers count as structures, so the skimmers will gravitate towards them but be unable to stun them, resulting in them endlessly skimming about.
Hay Tom if you like creeper world i bet you would love particle fleet emergence! Its made by the developers of creeper world and its a really great game!
Yay, Creeper World!
I am starting to think Tom likes the play as Creep maps more than normal maps. Which is fine by me.
The reason the Skimmers were congregating there was because the game's AI considers the Greenar Mother a human structure even though it is a natural resource.
edit: If you set the spores to fire at random structures, they will target the Greenar Mothers if there is nothing else to target.
I have watched other youtubers play creeper world beteeen toms releases but it just isnt the same. Cant tell you how excited i was when i saw this in my notifications
nothing better than sitting down to enjoy a meal while watching creeper world
great creeping as always Tom
An interesting thing to add to play as creeper is a breeder virus. The virus would slowly convert mesh that it is connected to into more breeder virus and the more virus surrounding a piece of virus the more it produces minimum could be 1 every ten seconds and max could be 1 every second
tom: what are they doing?
they're groovin.
"We must seize the means of production. How does that sound?" - Tom, 2022
It all sounds a bit communist to me, Tom.
America wants to know your location.
Sharknado? What's that?
I only know Skimmernado
Thanks for another creeper world Tom!
3:55
tom:blobs not doing too much
blob that it hit a turret with an earn:🙄
Can't say it enough but love seeing Creeper World
Used to love watching your creeper world videos and then i got bored of them and now I’m so happy again whenever a new video comes out, I’m bipolar for you and this game
Love the fun videos, thank you for your work Tom and Josh.
An artists reprisentaion of the Vod-Goblin pile at the end there.
The skimmers... life goes on....
Daily reminder that Tom is an amazing person and to thank him for all he has done/will do - Day 782
Ha ha, don't worry my Map Maker, we will believe :D
God, those Spores XD
I mean, you say it like the princess becoming a robot is a bad thing
My goodness, those Skimmers. Life, errr, life finds a way
Comment agreeing day 13
we need skimers to make moi moi moi sound
tom discovers skimmers !!!
Amber waves of plains.
Damn that’s a lotta paper planes
It always drives me crazy when he's got hundreds of eggs left when he ends the video. Come on man... POP ALL EGGS!
I'm deeply in love with Big Bertha
Did Tom listen to my suggestion of "Skimmers Everywhere" that I made on his last CW4 video. Going by the title... maybe. Lets watch this shit and find out.
Ok so... it wasn't my comment it was just sheer dumb luck that he discovered the OP nature of the Skimmer wave. Maybe he will see this one for the future though.
Tactics...
-Set up generation. Backline emitters
-Direct forces with Field Gens
-Egg gen or 2 in strategic positions to facilitate waves
-SKIMMERS EVERYWHERE
Win almost all maps.
Oh yeah and if you aren't using erns for anything else they should be down as Emitters. Never have erns that aren't being used. More emitters means more SKIMMERS when you are using these weapons that consume creep.
Just to explain... skimmers reposition your creep. The weapons absorb the creep and then release it contained in the skimmers which target structures. Not only that but they also temporarily disable surrounding structures allowing the re positioned creep to inflict max damage. The only thing that you need to consider is anticreep as skimmers will not do so well in it and the re positioned creep may well be destroyed quite quickly. This isn't too much of a worry though as your back line with emitters, field gens and eggs should also be pushing upon disabled turrets.
that many skimmers would crash my game
A "Scimnado" is the official term.
The skimmers are just Kamikaze’s tbh
4x speed kinda simplifies the calculations, so it should still speed things up even when you're lagging
Tom, i keep seeing you make the same mistake all the time on these PAC maps, not putting down mesh where you should. non-mesh land impedes the flow of creep as it has a natural "resistance". white mesh allows creep to flow over easier, and once it has a value of 1 creep over the 3x3 tile grid, it turns blue which removes all creep flowing resistance, and provides a passive 0.1 creep per second generation on the 3x3 tile. this makes holding territory easier once you have claimed it because it allows creep to stay over the spot preventing it from turning white again, which impedes the flow of creep of entering it. un-meshed land also "removes" creep at a slow rate. so if you do not mesh an area, you are losing creep at a slow rate. so, mesh removes the passive erasing of creep, allows very low creep creation, and allows it to flow over those tiles easier. it makes it much harder for you to lose the area due to the increased flow rate of creep over it. if you want to channel creep for a specific purpose, thats fine, but you really need to mesh a LOT more on these PAC maps.
This is highly informative and very interesting.
If it is as you say, then there seems to pretty much be no downside to just, meshing everything.
Mesh does NOT create creeper. That's just nonsense. Then again I've been seeing some 0.0001 creeper values on mesh persist for long times, so idk. Mesh holds quite some creeper which keeps it out of battle. Also, the unmeshed land removing creep only happens because of rounding down to 0 if there's very thin creeper, and is irrelevant in the bigger picture. Meshing everything just means you're delaying your creeper's progress as you're containing it within the mesh.
@@trickygamer555 If that was as you say, then wouldn't that only be a temporary "one time flat fee" of sorts?
You pay the price of a tiny smidge of creep now, for the benefit of much faster creep movement from now on?
I think that might make it still be worthwhile even if it doesn't generate anything.
The f#%king skimmers, man. They just turn front lines to complete wastelands.
Instantly reminded me of mario
Please tom. More creeper world
Once again Tom just keeps looking around the map, not doing anything while upwards of a dozen ern power just burns a hole in his pocket. Tom, Just slap down a pile of emitters while you plan, then clean them up after to do whatever.
I can’t believe you didn’t pop all 454 eggs at the end ;(
this is literally blitzkrieg lmao
Very good as always
On big maps like this, especially playing as the creeper; disable shake is your friend.
attack on skimmer :D
Love it!
creep be shroom becous it spore
I have missed this…
A Skimmnado?
😍
"Snoipers"
I wanted to see all eggs popped :(
Hide spore lines
so i heard you like skimmers would be this just a skimmer tornado
hooman shut hav moar snipahs missilahs
Nice
Anywhere to get cool dice in bristol?
Ahhh
I love you
Not skimmer tornado skimnado
Scim me a river!
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