Archicad vs Revit - By Their Technical Capabilities and Features
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ส.ค. 2024
- We are going to compare Archicad and Revit. Both of them are very good BIM softwares and leads the whole endustry. There are lots of people who can not deside which one is better. Everyone has limited times and have to decide one of these softwares. So They have one shot to go for to learn any BIM software. In this video I will compare both by their BIM capabilities.
What is that mean ? For example I won't compare the price both program. I presume we have both softwares and we just compare both. Because of we only wonder the technical capabilites.
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As you can read in the title, this video is only mensioned for Technical Capabilities and Features. Not overall score. Ofcourse price, finding jobs, popularity is important too. But there are tons of video in youtube that explains these. You can watch them if you wonder. But if you just wonder how both software works, this video explains this. By the way param-o is a crap. Don't come with that to me. Also Revit has dynamo but it is crap too :D Grasshopper is the best.
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One of the powerful Revit tools is massing, I mean there's a great flexibility to create complicated forms with very wild shapes and geometries, then in no time these conceptual masses can be changed into buildings by just checking floors and assigning materials to the faces of these masses. Another tool I found very useful of Revit is the environmental analysis specially when using glazing elevations this tool use the climate data in the specific area and gives you the recommended area of glass to be used and many other tools.
ArchiCAD is a fantastic and easy to use software.
Ok, videos like this are always more or less clickbaits, but i must say few things here:
First of all, there should be advanced/top knowledge in both programs, to make real fair comparing, usually this can't be from one person, since true gurus truly use just one of the two. I said this many time, and i said it again, find two really top users and give them some real world task to do, then measure time, efficiency etc, to see what's really better and why.
Second, you did compare few things in odd, way fro example when it comes to zones, you can mark them, even use textures etc, if i remember correctly. and there are other smaller things, but don't want to bother now..
And most important thing, (which you just mention briefly at the end, but should be really said first), archicad now comes with full MEP tools integrated, which is really one major things when we're talking true BIM process. You can also get tool for energy evaluation, there are a zillion good dedicated plug-ins, which develop thrum all this years in really specialized tolls (let say something like reinforcement-rebar and architerra-terrain plugin, one great plugin for wooden house structures etc. If you want to make your own parametric objects, now instead of gdl scripting, you can use paramo. For really advanced modelling, there's rhino/grasshopper active link, where you can interactive model spaceships in archicad if needed. This is in one way also one thing, that i wish archicad would support natively - NURBS (aka free-form modelling), which revit do have in it's limited way, but still. Another feature (which also could solve first one) is just simple right click, where you can transform anything or any shape into basic elements (slabs, roofs, walls etc) if needed. But let be honest here, not all studios doing Zaha Hadid work, but also studios like BIG etc uses archicad, among other software.
So in the end: in line of work, they both are more or less same thing, which one have little bit different way of doing things, that's about it. Archicad is now here for decades and was/is pioneering whole BIM thing, Autoddsk stepped in really late and basically copy whole thing. There are many others well establish players (allplan, vectorworks, acad-bau etc), it is just autodesk is much more aggressive in engineer market, that's all (all this youtube bashing is not any exception). What we need is just true universal format support from all of them and playing fair (we all know which one i'm talking about). And just one last thing, which i noticing here on youtube: Why so many of you start making archicad tutorials, then start talking about revit (in most of cases) and then jump to revit all together? Don't need to answer, it was rhetorical question, i already explain reasons before..
Please, we don't' need another revit messiah, there's tons of them on youtube, just keep making archicad based material, this is much more needed (in english please, not russsian, italian, spanish etc), so people could realy learn and use this program properly, it is best tool fro architect and such (for example, in house mechanical and structural engineers etc), bare none. And my last grind: graphisoft (nemetcheck), the moment you start going autodesk route with renting licensing, its' by-bye from me or my firm, i can assure you that (and i know many others too). Keep evolving and stay true to your costumers!
Man u have said whts in my mind I really upset about the mythes of revit making it like the black magic. Singapore is using Archicad for the second tallest building in the world .. he didn't talk about the analytic structural model and most of the points of comparison are useless he just want to no. to revit . He is forgetting a major real factors of using the software which is the ease of use , how light it's on machine . Wht about the team work using Graphisoft server in from two different countries . I think working in revit in a model with more then 8 persons at a time will make revit crash .. he doesn't want to talk about the price cuz Archicad has two plans anual and permanent and the anual is cheaper
Not to forget wht u have mansion a bout the green architecture analysis or Leed which way better in Archicad . Archicad has the BIM Of the year 2020 award .
I really hate wht Autodesk company is doing for the companies of support but under condition of accepting people who has experience in revit to gain more money from training.
archicad didnt evolve for 3 years now. 26 feels almost like 23/24. no ui upgrade. no Performance Upgrade. no upgrade layering and grouping System. like the simplest form option of naming groups and have selectable sub-groups. atm archicad is not improving.
@@palava8500 one of the v26 upgrades was exactly upgraded layering/grouping/naming.
Not sure if I'll get a response, but I'm still asking. For structural design, which software is better between Revit and Archicad? I learned analytical software like ETABS and SAP2000 in school, but in my country most firms use CAD or BIM tools for structural detailing and if they want analyze them they do it by exporting to analytical software.
Power of Archicad
You said it pal.
This is by far the best comparison method I have ever seen ❤❤. Basically, this type of comparison is necessary for those who are not experts in any software or at least one program. They need to understand exactly what those programs can do so they can prioritize which ones to learn first. Not sure will I get your response or not but is it possible to compare revit vs AC for structural design.
thanks. I'm not familiar with structural design btw
Great Video, I have heard of ArchiCad but had never it in action till now, and it was very impressive seeing you zoom and pan around the model with such ease. As a Revit user for the last 10 years, I found some of the features interesting but since I work on the MEP side things I think I will stick with Revit for now. -Cheers
Since version 24 (launched last year) ArchiCad has integrated MEP modeling tools right from the get-go. There are some good videos and tutorials on Graphisofts Channel about that. Worth having a look.
Cheers
I used Revit since 2007. I have purchased Archicad in 2020. I can't any single feature in Revit better than in Archicad. It is very difficult for me to work on some projects in Revit at the moment when I can see how easier the same things can be done in AC.
I work in both of them, I feel more confortable working in Archicad.
Why?
5:26 You are wrong, You can split rooms in ArchiCAD to create automated zones. Just draw a line and mark it as area boundary. Then just place a zone with a single click. Also there are color schemes for zones. Optionally you can use categories to define the color.
7:40 You just do not know how. It is possible and quite simple, just using of some shortcuts.
Congrats for your comparative. !!! i mean this is the frist honest comparative.
I Archicad user and Revit user too.
Archicad is a powerfull tool for architecture. but when you see the powerfull skills from Revit like (hide and override elements in view, use linked view from another files, the possibility to project any object from the view range in a floor plan, the MEP is more complete)
Yes Archicad has a powerfull GDL object, and you can make anything with them. But is not for all the Architects who had to focus on the desing, learn how to script a GDL object.
In my opinion Archicad need to incorporate and ge better skills from Revit.
sorry if my english is not so good.
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you are not an Archicad user because if you were then you would know that you can do everything you just mentioned and then some.
@@williammoses8145 I'm an Archicad user too, and I prefer it over Revit. Of course you can do whatever you want in Archicad I know that. But it's about how many steps it takes to do some actions. (this comment is for both softwares) and Grahisoft know that, If not, they would not focus their marketing on that.
For example:
- How many steps take you for a Site Plan with Grids shadows levels. (We need to make a 3D view in Axonometric then make a 3D document then configure the view)
- Export UTM coordinates in CAD (We dont have this in Archicad in 2D view)
- Slope tag (We have to calculate manually)
-Rotate a View (I mean the orientationof the view, Yes we can do it in Anchicad but in Revit you have many options, like True north and project north and Scope Box)
- Groups ( they have different purposes, but if you want it groups like Revit you have to make a Modules)
I'm not saying that Revit is better than Archicad. Archicad have to many powerfull Skills, but it's important to see what are that powerfull skills from other softwares.
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Archicad has an EQ-tool and of course you can group things. Anyway. Thank you for the comparison.
Ofcourse there is group tool :) There is no group tool which works like block in autocad. I hope you know the difference. In adition to that archicad has array tool. No EQ . Thanks for watching.
@@sb.architect One can actually force blocks in Archicad by saving them as objects and keeping an original copy of the object(s). This way you can always update the object and all instances are changed.
should add that archicad is a cad capable software. Revit requires Autocad to be a proficient software. In addition revit crashes continuosly and is a buggy software. Have you ever noticed its glitches and visualization errors such as while managing big projects or complex cad files imported? If you want to understand the real power of the two softwares, try to import a cad file into archicad and revit. Make a section and see what happens.... In addition the 3D visualization and section in archicad is unbeatable. Doing the same in Revit is not possible or too much a pain
6:58 Use the mesh too
9:22 you can add quick layer options to the toolbar
can you make a tutorial on how to use the cinerender engine correctly step by step? it will be of great use to me and to most other archicad users. thank you
Archicad user here.. I love Revit's temporary dimension, it make work a lot more easy. But Revit look like a software from ice age. What an ugly UI.
That's right.
The temporary dimension is great but i find its indispensable in Revit to overcome the clunkyness of its interfase (imagine if you didnt have it?)
In Archicad would be great to have it too, but you soon find that its so easy to move around and place things and snaps work so well (after some initial trial and error period of course), that youd barely need it
It is a good video to compare ArchiCAD and Revit... These are powerful BIM-based software. ArchiCAD needs to be improved in rendering and algorithmic design. I keep calm and i love ArchiCAD since Version 10....
You forgot the wonderful concept of Attributes in Archicad...Graphic Overrides...the pen set...the wonderful Pet Palette...The Organiser and the Publish.....By the way can we do a trapezoid wall in Revit?....
thanks for adding. yeah you can make model in place and substract from the wall in revit.
Nice video. I mostly Use Revit. But I tend to like ArchiCad more. I didn't know about details not updating in ArchiCAD though...isn't there a way around this?
I thought that filtering and making advanced selections were standard in both apps.
Still, I think that Modeling in ArchiCAD is more efficient and intuitive. The family system in Revit looks like it's built for Mech design (Solidworks/Inventor like). unless it's for really advanced parametric models
It's kind of cumbersome. also in Revit certain objects (families) are restricted to certain planes wich is very frustrating sometimes. I prefer ArchiCad's possibility to move objects in free space.
I really like Revit's temporal dimensions...but in practice, I don't really use it that much (that's also why a lot of objects are bound to certain planes...so its both a positive and a negative feature)
yes there is the rebuild button in Archicad that he skipped over and did not use !!!!!
Does Revit has plugin similar to CadImage tools?
I like archicad since you can export to almost program compare to revit and its object library, you barely want to download furnitures/fixtures online. But one thing i struggle with is their stair tool, on how to it can be edited its tread's shape like if you want to make a bullnose type of stair for example. I searched alot about this but there's no video tutorial specific for this topic.
stair tool is realy nice, one you dive little more into it, but i agree, there should be more stuff on this topic, too.
@@izoyt right?, I've seen alot of Archicad videos and tutorials but neither of them focus on the stair and railing tool that is one of the complex tool in the software wish someone can make in-depth tutorials here in youtube
I love archicad
The simple fact that in Revit you work in axonometric view instead of perspective like in the reality it makes me feel uncomfortable
Also why not using a cool black and white graphic template? Nobody uses the default pen set 😁
Do you find the lack of freedom with parametric families in ArchiCAD an issue?
Was thinking of transitioning from Revit to ArchiCAD but wants to figure out how feasible it is in real life.
Revit can change between axonometric and perspective in the same 3d view with just a click of a button
@@brandoncorrie472 It's a new function that the God of Revit spared to us mortals in Revit 2019/2020 (Just like how they spared us the freedom to create white opaque filled regions in Revit 2017/2018. Praise the Revit nerd Gods and hope they find a date!). It works even slower than the already somewhat slow Ortho 3D view. Given the real time update speed that allows me to work with multiple windows I don't complain about the slowness of the Ortho 3D view, but if you have used the Perspective 3D view in actual working condition you will know that it's not really giving the worker much convenience just because of the maneuvering + re-rendering speed. On the other hand, navigating through a 3D view in ArchiCAD is smooth. On that aspect alone it has out-performed revit for about a decade now.
@@brandoncorrie472 well better late than never )))
One of most objective look...
I seen this video..very nice vedio..i am using only revit..i never use archicad til now..can you please tell me which software is best as BIM work.
ARCHICAD
Hi thats great video. On question…. Is there option in Archicad to move object by editing dimension like in revit? Thanks
Not directly in dimensions but it has a different method and faster than revit in some situations.
@@sb.architect thanks for your answer. Maybe one day you can make a video about differences in things like that 😊
Вы можете показать пример?
@@sb.architect You are very political in your explanations
Hiç bir program Allplan kadar iyi olamaz. Allplan herşeyi yapar. Very fast very strong in the best Allplan 😊
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ArchiCAD'i kullanmadığın için böyle diyorsun.
Yo uso sketchup y es cool...
archicad now has library part maker and param-o maker
yeah but that need a detailed manual :)
@@sb.architect yes, as well as a family editing. You can't begin families from scratch. :)
Nice video
Archicad so great #even_with faster #documentantion
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you can draw a line on the floor plan and change ts settings to "zone boundary"- and you are done with zones. it is interesting no one who does this type of vidios are saying nothing about what every program is about: drawings or project documentation... revit is absolute rubbish when it comes to this, there is no way to print straight from revit without going to autocad and finishing the drawing.
Archicad is the best but we love Revit it's very easy
I love both very much. Rest of are useless :D
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aahahah abi türk yaa bende aynı böyle konuşuyorum :D
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@@sb.architect 😅
Archicad is the only well known BIM software not to support Nurbs / free form curvature modeling.
Its a fair point, but:
a)at least in latin america, the percentage of real projects that would use free forms is extremely small. So the offices that do them surely use other more apropiate software for it
b)even if you need free form, you can always use the grasshopper rhino conection
The learning curve of Revit is too big and sometimes overcomplicated and boring! They should give up Dynamo which is horrendously complicated and how to make easy things difficult kind of staff!
I'm not a professional ArchiCAD user, but I have to say that even the downsides of ArchiCAD sounds rational, if the assumption is that this is a tool developed to serve mainly the Architect (instead of, let's say construction manager). Overall I think it's very easy to see that they consulted quite a good amount of Architects when building the software to tailor it to their needs. (unlike the condescending bastards from Revit dev team, who won't even make roof soffit taggable for more than a decade now.)
First of all, although I don't like it, the inability to "modify sub-elements" in ArchiCAD shouldn't be a huge issue, especially for simpler projects. Previously I helped a PM who was Revit newbie but CAD expert to set up a Revit model, and was told to draw floor slope lines manually after I proposed the modify sub-elements function. The PM doesn't care about seeing all the small ups and downs of that slab in section, and sees all those smaller slopes within a large slab "too detailed to be modelled".
Secondly, the lack of (easily accessible) parametric families - Interior designers will definitely hate this but I find that the architect typically don't need that many 3D families after all. I don't know about the workflow of Mechanical or Electrical in ArchiCAD environment, it sounds like this may be a bit troublesome when they have to put in equipments.
Thirdly, the inability to coordinate detail with model: Details are supposed to reveal construction methods anyway. It's typically suggested against if someone was to put dimensions on a detail instead of a plan/section. We don't do this anymore in our office but we have had experience exporting sections and details from Revit to CAD, so our detailers (who were much more experienced in CAD) can be mobilized. Let's be honest, Although Revit is not bad at doing details, CAD is still the go-to software for that function alone (having different colours for different layers alone makes it much easier for the brain).
Overall, I can see that ArchiCAD is a humble tool designed to feed into Architect's need to create Design & Working Drawings, instead of (Ooooh look at me mom) "revolutionize the work flow". It was a natural upgrade to CAD 2d drafting, and CAD users find it easier to integrate into. I understand that when it comes to allowing flexibility within a modularized 3D modelling tools, the software dev always have to pick favourites and make sacrifices. Seems to me ArchCAD dev team did a good job in deciding which function gets to be flexible / rigid based on users' need, whereas Revit... Let's not forget that until 2017/18 version they still disallow users to create a white filled region (because that angel with horns who sat on the devs' shoulder told them to force the users to use a "masking region", even though masking regions as a tool is quite under-developed and the object can only be detected as a generic "detail item" in the filter - meaning you can only alter its look manually.)
(I refuse to use the word BIM because dumb people likes to create new concepts to confuse others or glorify themselves)
very inspiring
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I have a feeling this is a very good video but your english is so poor I have no idea what your saying. It feels like every 3-4 you switch back to your native language, not sure what it is.. if you decide to do a presentation in english, do the whole thing in english and make the effort to pronounce the words. Otherwise think this could be a good video as Im trying to decide between the two.
I have subtitles for you :D Btw pronunciation is not very easy to achieve.