This Is Ruining The Natural Hair Community | Miche Unfiltered Episode 3
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The issue is hair acceptance period. Everyone has wash and go hair. The problem is wanting their hair to look like someone else’s hair. Spending an hour applying a product to your hair is not washing and going.
It's all about perspective 🙌🖤
Hair typing is helpful to get started with your natural hair journey. It helped me to find creators and influencers and professionals that had similar hair struggles to myself, and I learned from them. However, hair typing doesn’t inform how a product is going to work or work best for you. As you experiment and learn more, you’ll understand more about density, porosity and coarseness of your hair and that’s what really will help you to find what you need. My hope is that slowly, but surely the curl typing will vanish, but for now, I think it is a good jumping off point on your natural hair journey. It definitely helped me.
Thank you for sharing 🖤
Thanks. A great point.
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I don't like the hair typing! I have a looser curl texture and I hate when people say " You got that good hair". I always say all hair is good hair! We have to learn to love what grows out of our scalp. I absolutely love your product line! My favorite product is the mousse. You had to say a special prayer over that product because it is absolutely amazing.
I can relate to Michelle’s texture and I appreciate her honesty and sharing techniques. Hair typing doesn’t bother me because although the purpose is limited, we understand what it means as descriptions.
Thank you for sharing! ☺️🖤
i love having "good hair" and nobody is going to tell me any different....i will never again downplay myself just to please other women end of!!!
When people say “this product doesn’t work” my question is, what does “working” look like to you?
I think some people expect their hair to look like something it’s not or do something it won’t do.
This is a good point! 💯
Great convo! Started my natural hair journey decades ago. One of the early products that came on the scene was Mixed Chicks (MC). Saw them on one of the morning shows making the claim that the product worked on all hair types “and you can get results like ours.” Spent lots of $ trying to get those results. MC did have a great detangler that was awesome (who knew that you didn’t have to fight 🥊with your hair to detangle it?)! 😂 Needless to say, my tightly coiled hair didn’t’ respond as they promised. I think early “natural” hair care products weren’t actually developed for all hair types, but no one told us so. The promise was always that your hair, no matter the type, could look just like theirs, mixed race or not. We didn’t have social media back in the olden days to show us techniques, to explain how products are designed to work. What we did have were books and handouts that told us about hair typing. I live in the DC Metro area. Back in the olden days, I would go to a well-known braiding salon in the area and I remember the owner wrote a book, which I purchased, and one of the early chapters talked about hair typing. I think hair typing is similar to the social construct of race. It’s a way of putting hair into different categories so that you can separate what’s considered good hair from what’s considered not good hair.
Keep up the good work ladies! Can’t wait for the next convo.
Thank you for watching and we appreciate you sharing your thoughts about this topic! ☺️🖤
I find it’s extremely easy to obsess about curl typing. I personally want language for my curl pattern, but at the end of the day, it really doesn’t matter. I do agree that regardless of how loose or tight our curls are, we need to love our hair
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Hair typing was not a thing for me. I ignored that because I couldn’t tell what mine was, which I felt like I am a combination of 4 everything. Got a little bit of all the fours. I just looked for curly hair tutorials. I was looking for technique and proper care. It took about five years to get it all the way together but it was worth it. I love my curly hair.
Exactly!! Thanks for sharing and we're glad you found what works for you! ☺️🖤
The truth is that each strand of hair is unique and we do ourselves a disservice by trying to pigeon hole it into just a few “types”. Also, surrounding environment matters - the air, the humidity level, and the water source. Hair performs differently under different conditions and there is no way to get around that. We have in our heads that hair is always supposed to look like a “perfect” wig when in fact more wigs should probably look like natural hair with differing textures on one head.
This such a great point! Thank you for sharing 🔥🔥
Andre Walker, Oprah's hairdresser created that discriminating hair type chart?! Then he had the nerve to say people with 4c the tighter curl pattern, will need to get a relaxer?! The other thing, why are people putting texturizer in their hair or texlaxing?! I agree, for a wash and go, it's the technique that works for your hair and finding the right products for your hair type and patience.
cannot be surprised that it was one of Oprah's people. she supports that type of behavior. go back and watch all of her watched shows and how she portrayed us. she created a show for white women to look down on us. watch them again.
And don’t forget he made a hair care line for said discriminating hair chart, which flopped almost as soon as it came out.
I thought a white person did that
It took me forever to realize that I had fine hair. I had been trying to achieve certain looks by copying the exact steps of what I saw on videos. I caused so much damage with wrong techniques for my hair or doing certain techniques improperly. To correct that, for me, it was important to change my mindset to maintaining healthy hair and learning how to style it in a healthy manner. I now focus on consistency of my hair care routine. Before a health challenge in 2022, I used to have long hair, and honestly, it was like a mop because I didn't take care of it or know how to style it. I am much happier now with shorter, healthy hair that I can style. Bottom line, I get a lot more compliments now than when I had long hair.
Hair care is such a personal journey, we're glad you found out what works for you ☺️🖤
Preach Ladies🙌🏾🩷 Love this content so much!!!! Do not stop doing these!!
We won't! Thank you for the love ☺️🖤
I love you guys...
Look, GRAY HAIR... can we talk GRAY HAIR?
The grayer my hair gets the more it's not like it was before... It's drier, it feels like my hair is clingy and tangley. It's wiry, the strands feel thinner. Does that make sense? And that's what frustrates me. Because I also feel like it's not growing and I know that can mean it's breaking off faster than it's growing because it's not, not growing. It is growing but it just doesn't seem like I'm getting any length to my hair. I know, I know.I heard you when you said."You've been natural for a second and your hair is to your butt and I've been natural ten years and mine is the same length I heard you... I know there's cycles to hair growth.I know everybody's cycle is different. My mom is a hairstylist so is my sister. But even they are learning about this natural hair thing. Now that my hair is grey (gray) I'm starting to rethink my decision to be natural and I don't like that.
Yess! You described all of my issues. I've natural for years and my hair gets to the same just below my collar bone length, and no longer than that. And my grays look UGLY. I'm not even lying. The texture looks so bad on me. I tried growing it out during the pandemic and it looked and felt just the way described. I'm 4c but my grays look 4z Lol
Genuine question: Since your natural state is the strongest and healthiest your hair could possibly be, how will using texture altering chemicals help the problems you listed with your hair since it’ll be in a weakened and more vulnerable state?
Speaking from my own experience, my tighter “ curl pattern” was called “Nappy Headed”. That was traumatic and it doesn’t always go away. The laughing makes it seem like you guys are down playing the reality of how people feel when it comes to finding the right products, and techniques for “our 4c hair”.
We agree that it shouldn't be hard for people with more coily textures to find good hair products. That's why we took the time to make sure our products are quality and can work on all hair types 🙌🖤
I’m very happy I found this channel. I’m thinking about trying the products, the bundle.
I think for many of us who had been trying to navigate how to take care of our natural hair, the chart wasn’t an option we chose. It chose us. It was one alternative to not hate our hair and try to learn how to care for it. However I’m happy to say I’m going to let it go after watching this video.
I really really love this video.
The one thing I HATE about being natural is the challenges and barriers we have in learning to care for it. I think it’s important for us not to shame each other for not knowing or ourselves. We don’t know what we don’t know but we can’t let that stop us from searching.
there is a very deep void of hair knowledge that we are coming out of and it has a very large expansive historical context. But the trip is, it is very simple as we learn in this video. Self love and the right product.
I also hate that that chart made me waist a lot of money playing with products!!! We want our damn money back, we need hair reparations 😂!
I hate the hatred towards us as we dawn our natural crowns. And hope that those of us who have learned to love ourselves continue to do so fiercely so that our sisters can recognize that it is safe to do so when they are ready and able.
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Thank you 🙏🏾
I love this! You ladies said alot that the Natural Hair Community doesn't want to be honest about
Thank you so much 🙌🖤
Love the convo- however, I was just remembering how when I was in highshool i had NEVER encountered tight hair textures, including my own.
Growing up around mostly white people and getting a relaxer at 8, and the few black people i encountered had relaxers as well- I didn’t have an example of what our hair looked like, or how it behaved.
The curl types are certainly not the gospel, and that will not be the determinate of what products or specific care to use, but to have a category to be able to see another head of hair that shares my curl pattern is useful to me 🤷🏽♀️
And btw fellow content creator here- there is absolutely way more engagement on looser shinier curl patterns and it kind of does create a type of dysmorphia. 😥
Can you do a video or segment on taking care of toddler and young girls curly hair? I want to make sure I'm treating and nourishing their hair properly!
Absolutely 🙌🖤 We just posted a series all about styling for kids! Check us out
Where is the series posted? Or what is the title? I'm just totally missing it, sorry!@@Michebeauty
After forty years of using relaxers, I did the big chop and went natural. I love my hair now, thanks to the "chart" that helped me find products that will work for my hair. I understand my natural hair now by being educated about how to take care of it. The chart can be helpful. I think it all depends on how you view it. Ya'll are good educators
Also I think it would be cool if y’all took ‘voicemails’ or emails from your followers and discussed them on the video ❤️
Great idea! 🖤☺️
Great episode y'all!!! 🖤
Thank you so much! 🖤🖤🖤
Oprah’s stylist made up the chart. This was very necessary back then. I am happy to be a 4C girl!!! I’ve purchased a few of your items. I have to get the one step mousse.
What state are your salon located in?
Thanks for sharing! We are located in Lanham, MD. Not an official salon, we use it for demo purposes only ☺️🖤
Lol yeah length discrimination been here for a while. Remember that song back in the day, "bald headed scaly wag. Yo hair done touch your back" ? Whew we be hurting each other.
Hi Michelle! I know this video is old, but can you do a tutorial on how you created the hairstyle your wearing in this video? Thank you! ❤
Hi beauty! 🙌🖤 I will let the team know this is something you want to see!
@@Michebeauty Thank you!
Hair typing is divisive, and thank you for calling it out. I’ve spent entirely too much time and money on products because they were supposed to work on my “type”. I finally stopped that madness and found a routine that worked specifically for me, with products I wasn’t “supposed” to buy. Thanks for pointing out the length comparison BS as well. Keep up the demo videos; they’re helpful to many.
You are making amazing points 🙌🖤 SO happy the demo videos are helpful! Have you tested out our products yet?
I agree. Thanks for the convo! I do know I have several tyoes (grades) ofhair on my heað. I had the healthiest hair inmy younger years and the biggest, flufìest afro!! Now Istruggle w/ single strand knots & locs on ends of braids & twists. It seems my hair grows & then I tear length off.
No problem! I'm glad you found it helpful 🙌🖤 Have you tried our conditioning products to help with length retention and single strand knots? It's really helpful Here is the direct link: www.michebeauty.com/collections/all-hair-products/products/strengthen-protein-deep-conditioner
So true at trial and error.
I think the hair typing system is silly. If u have curly hair most likely it is dry and there is a struggle keeping your curls moisturized. I hear I have good hair and that is why it styles easy.😮 they have no idea how long it took me to learn how to style my hair correctly with the products I use. I also get tired of ppl asking what do u use to get your hair like that ? I’m like it ain’t about the product it is about technique with a good product. Learn technique and most products you have brought will work on your hair.
Exactly! The hair typing system is very silly in our opinion. That’s why we try and show techniques that can be done on most hair types. Consistency, quality products and technique is key 🔑 Thank you for sharing!
Not going to lie- when I found what what my hair type was - I was finally able to find the product that worked for me when it came to styling
We are SO happy you found products that work for you🙌 We are more emphasizing that quality products and techniques should be focused on more
@@Michebeauty no lol thats what "you" are saying....you think im apologising to you for having "good hair"? nope
4c used to be classified as "bad hair" or that's not "good hair". I wrote a report on this in college in AAS.
Since cutting my hair super short in college I was no longer attached to my hair since then because it does grow back
Good perspective 💯
Y'all are right. There is division within it.
I believe the hair typing situation is dividing the natural hair community
It can definitely be a big source of division 🙌
In my circle I am probably the most knowledgeable about natural hair, simply because I am older and embraced my natural hair even before het were born. I have a loose curl and when we talk about hair it's like I get dismissed it cos I am not 4c.
Thank you for the video. Finally someone agrees
Thanks for watching!
Thank you fir this. This grading made me not like my hair😞
We're happy to help! Its a process 🥰
I just want to learn how to do a wash n go😢… that’s it.
You can do it! We believe in you! 😁🖤 Check out our tutorials for an extra boost of guidance
Girls I am loving watching the transformative abilities... I am a cosmetologist and have a client young man with wiry coarse hair. He has a beautiful wet curl pattern but it dries like a model I've seen on your shorts. I would love to order can you send me info
Absolutely 🖤 Here is the direct link to our website www.michebeauty.com/collections/all-hair-products
I also believe that I have different types of hair on my head because my hair is in sisterlocks but my hair at the back way below has a loser curl than the other areas of my hair
This could be the cause! Have you tried our products in your hair yet? 👀🖤
Hello Miche Beauty I enjoyed your Video today! Please have a Good Day!
Hi! So glad you loved this video! We hope you have a great day as well 🖤
Hi. I see you put people under the dryer after styling and sometimes use a blow dryer at the roots for volume after that. Will you get the same results with an air dry? My granddaughter is autistic and won’t tolerate even being in the same room as a blow dryer. I have to physically lift her up and quickly storm through the threshold of public bathrooms and grocery stores before she has a chance to either drop down to the floor and not move or run in the opposite direction because she’s afraid the hand dryer in the bathroom or the bug fan at the store entrance is gonna activate. I would love to try your products on her if they work with air drying.
Hi there! 🖤 Yes our products do work well air drying 🙌
@@Michebeauty Thank you!
It's definitely about technique
Technique and quality products are so important🙌🖤
@Michebeauty i have been littery studying your videos and now I have my technique almost down pack and used your products for the first time this week, and I am so inlove with what I have so far and making a new purchase today
I really want to try your product because I refuse to spend days doing my hair or putting a million products on my hair.
Yes! Our goal is to make hair care uncomplicated! Try this bundle, 3 products and you're good to go! www.michebeauty.com/collections/bundles-1/products/wash-and-go-styling-bundle
Its funny how all the people who have looser curls are triggered by the hair charting system and being referred to as having "good hair".
The people with the"4C" hair int the meantime get why they are always asking "will this work for me/4C?"
What would be more helpful than trying to downplay hair typing and laughing at it, is soending more time showing how products work for 4C hair, because, yes, most of us feel that anything will work for the looser types because thats how it appears to us. Perception is reality and there are a lot of us "4C"s who are just teying to learn and would like the help.
"What does that even mean?" Do you not see the difference between a looser and a tighter curl?
Yes, were triggered and offended by you laughing it off as if tighter curls don't exist. It doesn't matter what its called. WE see the difference. Help us instead of laughing it off. Please.
We're more emphasizing the importance of quality products, ingredients and techniques over relying on the typing system 🙌🖤
Imma try the restaurant if it ain't too many bad reviews lol. Some ppl just won't like it, and its okay for me to have a difference of opinion. But i won't avoid the restaurant for just one bad review.
This is a good and open perspective 🙌🖤
Is there a salon and if so where is it?
We are located in MD! Although this salon is used for filming purposes only, you can get salon results at home in 3 simple steps! 🙌🖤
The hair typing, that was created by Oprah’s stylist, doesn’t bother me. I don’t like the division amongst us. Be it loose curls vs tighter curls or good hair vs bad (all hair is good hair) or light skinned vs dark skinned. We need to unite. We need to come together and support one another.
I get what you mean. Unfortunately, growing up, even before we got the hair typing, black people looked at each other differently. You either had that "good hair" or were nappy headed. I admit, I still struggle with hair envy of the looser textures.
@@stephanies3862 Yes that is so true. Now in 2024 we should be past that negativity. I don’t let someone use the term bad or nappy hair. I explain to them, all hair is good hair. WE have to break that cycle.
I pray you learn to love your curls. I have tight coily, kinky curls and I love them. I was determined to learn how to style it and now I get compliments on my hair. It’s a mindset, you can get there.
BRING ME IN. Please do something with my hair 😢
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You can't treat fine thin hair like thick course hair. Fine thin hair is more delicate.
That's an interesting point!🙌🖤
And btw thanks for explaining the curl system isn't an exact science.
No problem 😌🖤
I emailed you guys! and I'm waiting for a reply.
Hi beauty! Thank you for letting us know! Please allow us 24-48 hours for a response 🖤 We appreciate your patience!
@@Michebeauty I do marketing for you guys why don't you pay commission but block my account
@@Michebeauty I do marketing for you guys why don't you pay commission but block my account
miche sold out
You mean our products are always selling out? 😉
Imma unsubscribe from the hair typing for myself.
It's very freeing once you do 🙌🖤 You also have better experiences finding products that work best for you!
Awww the natural hair community is very judgemental. Sorry that you've been dragged and have felt unworthy.