Disassembling The Greatest F1 Car With The Men Who Made It - The 1988 Prost / Senna McLaren MP4/4

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  • @JayEmmOnCars
    @JayEmmOnCars  2 ปีที่แล้ว +238

    Enjoyed this? Check out my interview with Steve: th-cam.com/video/5Mz9nAzsLXU/w-d-xo.html

    • @threezerol944t
      @threezerol944t 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes! These are my fav format of vids.

    • @DrEmilSchaffhausenThe3rd
      @DrEmilSchaffhausenThe3rd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If you didn't take the chance on the day, please do one with Neil T too. His life in Motorsport is absolutely fascinating from early days with Ron Dennis, then running his own F2 team, to back at Mclaren again with Ron Dennis and only recently retiring.

    • @poplaurentiu4148
      @poplaurentiu4148 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Tank you very much this was absolutely epic.. i could listen these guys stories for hours.. 🍺

    • @ciello___8307
      @ciello___8307 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thank you for this Jay!

    • @johnycrellin-davies4460
      @johnycrellin-davies4460 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Loved this! Would you be interested in doing something similar with the Lotus 79?

  • @alexpaleolgos
    @alexpaleolgos 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2252

    As an ex Mclaren F1 employee, I am amazed by this video. I remember when I started, the heritage department lead by Neil was still on the MTC, he was very approachable and full of knowledge and always happy to help. Every time I was frustrated at some engineering problem we had to fix, I always used to come down to the boulevard and see the old cars, trying to figure out how they fixed the same issue in the past, Neil was always there to answer any question. Congrats Jay for this superb piece of content, I wish Mclaren would exploit more of their F1 heritage like you just did!

    • @sportzntouring
      @sportzntouring 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      That's such a cool story! I can just imagine!

    • @dirkdee9751
      @dirkdee9751 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      Great to read about that.

    • @danielhogg8305
      @danielhogg8305 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      This is the best comment I’ve ever read on an automotive channel, what a fantastic little jewel of insight into the history of Mclaren!
      Thankyou sir! 👍👍

    • @jimmyvoy9521
      @jimmyvoy9521 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I will send him this message !

    • @artvandelay2111
      @artvandelay2111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      What a beautiful machine. This is the size an F1 car should be ....... not like the latest "aircraft carriers" sized cars.

  • @MCF788
    @MCF788 ปีที่แล้ว +320

    I am 52 and I am from Brazil. I watched every GP that this machine won.
    In 1988 I was 18.
    Thank you very much for all these valuable information.

    • @alexmessiasjardim11-11
      @alexmessiasjardim11-11 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      us too!!! 🤗

    • @nataliebowles3159
      @nataliebowles3159 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was 6, and I remember. Not a lot, but it's imprinted on my mind.

    • @AX1A
      @AX1A 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Amazing!A truly remarkable reunion for everyone here

  • @iancairns7398
    @iancairns7398 2 ปีที่แล้ว +504

    I worked as a laminator for 10 years at MTC and Neil Trundle is an absolute legend, one of the nicest people who's ever been in F1.

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  2 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      He's a gent!

    • @dirkdee9751
      @dirkdee9751 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thanks for the insight!

    • @captainmeatsadventures7954
      @captainmeatsadventures7954 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      I am not going to lie, but that car makes sex wee come out!!! That has to be F1 fans favourite car!!

    • @001sander2
      @001sander2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Fascinating stuff and I'm not even much of a tech head yet I watched it all the way thru in one go 👍🏽

    • @jackdavies1718
      @jackdavies1718 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Have a look on here for an interview he did with the Brooklands Museum, he tells some fantastic stories.

  • @knowwhey7559
    @knowwhey7559 2 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    TH-cam is full of loud, obnoxious videos/presenters.
    It was truly a joy to sit and listen to these humble experts.

    • @moaningpheromones
      @moaningpheromones 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      new word for them: obknobxious - you're so right, they are painful

  • @ianackerley5753
    @ianackerley5753 2 ปีที่แล้ว +516

    In 1988 I was responsible for Shell’s sponsorship of this car, including the programme to develop the fuel and lubricants. Honda were amazing, continuing to develop the engine throughout the season despite it being the final year of the formula. We supplied them enough fuel to do a race everyday that year such was the scale of the testing programme. Neil mentions how dense the fuel was - so dense there’s a heat exchanger on the engine to warm it up to ensure it would burn. Fantastic video please do more of these.

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      That's amazing! Thanks for sharing

    • @pouleskov6524
      @pouleskov6524 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Please tell more. It is fantastic when some body from that era can tell stories. Come on...

    • @Bumbaclot213
      @Bumbaclot213 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Just wondering why the fuel would need to be so dense and what would make it dense - cheers

    • @Richard.Hybels
      @Richard.Hybels 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      “Lower the center of gravity by 10mm and gain 3/10 lap time.” Amazing

    • @greentea9335
      @greentea9335 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@Bumbaclot213 Higher density fuel delivers more energy per liter, effectively allowing them to have "more" fuel in the smaller tank they were regulated to use.

  • @harpersneil
    @harpersneil 2 ปีที่แล้ว +257

    This video could have gone for 12 hours and I'd still have hung on every word. Sublime.

    • @ravim111
      @ravim111 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yikes, I was about to skip it as it was a little too long, until I saw your comment.

    • @melvinsamson1378
      @melvinsamson1378 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, sublime it is.

    • @JCDenton95
      @JCDenton95 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ravim111 congrats on your minuscule attention span

    • @ben6993
      @ben6993 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There’s a longer cut
      th-cam.com/video/m7uZu_Wsdis/w-d-xo.htmlsi=TdoNd7Ll3tR9Ux9d

  • @vibingwithvinyl
    @vibingwithvinyl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +121

    This is the F1 I fell in love with as a kid.

    • @sportzntouring
      @sportzntouring 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same!

    • @karlbassett8485
      @karlbassett8485 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Same here. The cars of this era, the early eighties, had such clean lines unlike todays staggeringly complex bodywork. I started watching F1 in 82 and the cars that year, the original MP4, the Ferrari 126C2, the Renault RE30, Lotus 91, all had such clean lines. (Only Keke's FW08 looked a bit odd.) And unlike earlier cars from the seventies they looked so well made. They almost looked like "production" cars, the attention to detail was so good. You didn't see random bits riveted on here and there.

    • @wolfstream1
      @wolfstream1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Likewise!

    • @esfitnesspro2455
      @esfitnesspro2455 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed

  • @play_by_ear
    @play_by_ear ปีที่แล้ว +58

    I swear I almost teared up when they removed the bodypanels to expose the mecahnicals beneath. The best full on nerd out video about this car, ever. Thanks for producing such amazing content!

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I will confess to getting a little bit emotional when filming it

  • @jibmaster
    @jibmaster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +265

    Wow! This was BY FAR the best F1 in-depth interview of this legendary car and period. In 1988 I was 18, in the States, watching it on rabbit ears and an old color TV. I was hooked and watched F1 every year since. This is the Xmas present I needed!

    • @johnjacobjingleheimerschmi3857
      @johnjacobjingleheimerschmi3857 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      1988... What a great time to be young and alive.

    • @da_visual
      @da_visual ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is such a comment! I felt your passion!

    • @jackjohnsen8506
      @jackjohnsen8506 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      same here, But I was 44 in 1988, and I saw all the F1 Races at long Beach, and got to drive the old Riverside raceway, short track in a formula Ford car. best of all, I was at Riverside for the US Grand Prix, in 1960, at age 16. Only 15,000 people came, and after the race all My hero's were just standing By Themselves, waiting to be picked up and driven to the Airport, to go back to Europe. My brother and our friend, and I stood there and listened to them talk , and one of them looked at us, and said."Who are you with mates?", (F1Team), WE LAUGHED AND SAID" JUST fans WHO WATCHED YOU GENTLEMAN DRIVE!" HE THEN SAID "You are the most important blokes here, as with out you, we can't race, and make a living"" Everyone laughed, and I think the driver who talked, was Jack Brabham! Sterling Moss won in a lotus, and He wasn't there. I'm now the last person, Most likely, to still be alive, at age 78, who was there, and I live in Las Vegas, and I can't go to the F1 race, here in November, because it costs 500 dollars for general admission....tears falling..

    • @johnjacobjingleheimerschmi3857
      @johnjacobjingleheimerschmi3857 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jackjohnsen8506 I have a retired uncle living in Vegas, he mentioned the event prices. $500 is crazy expensive. Best wishes to you!

    • @jackjohnsen8506
      @jackjohnsen8506 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@johnjacobjingleheimerschmi3857 Thank you, but it will take a Miicle to get me inside that track, on race day...

  • @matz4k
    @matz4k 2 ปีที่แล้ว +221

    This is pure gold, a huge thanks to everyone involved!

    • @mikespenceTHEGOATB
      @mikespenceTHEGOATB ปีที่แล้ว +2

      HONKY! THE! SPORT! OF! FORMULA! ONE! (RULES)! HA! HA! HA!

  • @DrEmilSchaffhausenThe3rd
    @DrEmilSchaffhausenThe3rd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +209

    Proud to be able to call Neil a friend. Incredibly kind, knowledgeable and hard working chap. I was at his house the other day and he mentioned he'd been looking at one of the MP4/4s but I got the impression it was hush hush so I didnt ask any more. I didn't realise he was filming for this brilliant channel! :)

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      And now you know! Thanks for watching

  • @DPCTechnology
    @DPCTechnology 2 ปีที่แล้ว +186

    This is a piece for the archives. It belongs in a museum. Thanks so much for capturing these MP4/4 gems before they were lost to time.... Just beautiful!

    • @unique11124
      @unique11124 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      As great as it is I lament the fact that more of the team couldn't be there. The other mechanics, Ron, Alain, etc. And of course Ayrton.

    • @DPCTechnology
      @DPCTechnology ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@unique11124 if only...

    • @Cynderfan35
      @Cynderfan35 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@unique11124 I can only imagine Ayrton there with Alain along side the entire team of the time.. if only could have it happen.

    • @mikespenceTHEGOATB
      @mikespenceTHEGOATB ปีที่แล้ว +2

      HONKY! THE! F1! (SUSPENSION)! &! THE! (PULL)! ROD! WORKED! (SUPERBLY)! HA! HA! HA!

    • @realMaverickBuckley
      @realMaverickBuckley 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This will be in one of those 'British Pathè' videos in 50 years 😅(I hope)

  • @hernanhernandez3861
    @hernanhernandez3861 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Getting these three together was amazing. The look on their faces. The enthusiasm. They were ready to put a hot shoe in the car and send him out on an installation lap... Thank you.

  • @johndublyoo2553
    @johndublyoo2553 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    No flappy paddle gearchangers, cars designed for drivers who were drivers in every sense of the word, quite frankly the best video I've ever seen showing the inner workings of a car and the team behind it all, thank you.

  • @thedetailingdoctor5746
    @thedetailingdoctor5746 2 ปีที่แล้ว +243

    This is up there as one of the best automotive videos on TH-cam. Almost a documentary I’d say. Well done jay you did the car pure justice ❤

    • @dirkdee9751
      @dirkdee9751 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just wanted to state the exact same thing. Magnificent episode!

    • @D4N13LP
      @D4N13LP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      An amazing video. As mentioned above, a very professional documentary- superb.

    • @andreedelslund2138
      @andreedelslund2138 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Couldn't agree more! It's been amazing to watch Jay's journey with his TH-cam channel, and this really has to be the treat of all treats for motorsport fans! Incredible. Such a great job. Only thing is it ended so soon😄

    • @jorgevinicius3
      @jorgevinicius3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are damn right! A top quality, insightfull and authentic doumentary!

    • @gold333
      @gold333 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Best I have seen in watching 30 years of these.

  • @mtrps_
    @mtrps_ ปีที่แล้ว +22

    i grew up around the Schumacher glory era, but this content is so refreshing to see, these people are severely underrated! makes me appreciate previous eras even more.

  • @loonatticat
    @loonatticat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    I’m sitting here watching this with a magnifying visor on my head, DROOLING over the details. Such excellent reference material for us model builders. I have kits of this car in every scale from 1/43 to 1/8. I want to reproduce every nut and bolt as accurately as possible! THANK YOU GUYS!!!

  • @bunkerprojects8371
    @bunkerprojects8371 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This video is criminally underwatched

  • @JJ-zg1hh
    @JJ-zg1hh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +292

    What a great piece of work this is Jay. I would go as far to say this video is important as a record of historical significance. No one lives forever so really good to get this technical detail captured now. Thanks to all involved.

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Thanks J J. My intent was to capture an oral history of sorts

    • @Upo01
      @Upo01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Just the video thumbnail was enough to instantly subscribe the channel. Excellent video!

    • @pinaricyt
      @pinaricyt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wholeheartedly agree!

    • @jamesvozar1
      @jamesvozar1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Quite right mate.

    • @wolfstream1
      @wolfstream1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed!

  • @f82dot
    @f82dot 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    This has to be the best film on a F1 car if not any race car on TH-cam. You guys really outdid yourselves on this. Happens to be the first video I’ve seen from your channel and I subscribed after only a few minutes in!!!! I love racing history and hearing the men who gave us this beautiful beast talk about it as if it was just yesterday they built it. I’m a forever fan, absolutely crushed it guys!!

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Check out my interview with Steve from last year for more F1 throwbacks

  • @peinxd
    @peinxd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    Steve can't help but smile as he talks about the car, can see how it brings him back and how proud he is in the creation of such an amazing machine that became the most dominant car to date.

    • @greentea9335
      @greentea9335 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      And how much he loved working with his team, and giving credit to everyone who contributed!

  • @velchuck
    @velchuck ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Absolutely amazing! I have never seen a video like this. I was, and still am, a Senna fan! His ability to give his engineers information to set up the car is uncanny. When I watched him qualifying, he was like a man possessed, in a good way. He let a higher power direct his mission, and it worked for him. This car was, and still is, the panicle of excellence.

  • @robertosmith1
    @robertosmith1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    That car is a work of art. Simply stunning

  • @francisco.soeiro
    @francisco.soeiro 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am 58 years old and of course I watched this most beautiful f1 car winning all those years ago. Lots of tears so thank you very much, happy tears btw 😂

  • @tjk9263
    @tjk9263 2 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    I'm a big Formula 1 fan, and this car was a part of the "Golden Era " of F1 racing. Also, I'm a fan of Ayrton Senna, who could do things in that car that made you watch in awe every race he was in. Alian Prost was a great driver also and his rivalry with Senna was exciting to watch. Great video James, you really outdid yourself with this one, and these gentlemen were wonderful to listen to.

    • @johnsmith1474
      @johnsmith1474 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That prose comp - ouch.

    • @davidfraser9365
      @davidfraser9365 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think that many fans that were engrossed in this period of F1 would agree with you. As for Ayrton, what can we say that hasn’t been said? Just an icon. Much missed.

    • @WOWWOW-hk1tb
      @WOWWOW-hk1tb ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did an AI bot write this comment

    • @moaningpheromones
      @moaningpheromones 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah I love Alien Prost

  • @markknowles8498
    @markknowles8498 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    These gents are so gifted, not only for the technical expertise, nor for presenting their knowledge in a way that a layman can understand (just!) but also for being so bloody interesting! Brilliant video, thank you!

  • @ronniet906
    @ronniet906 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    We learn so much from leading F1 engineers, you're on to a winner here Jay interviewing F1 teams on past cars. History of engineering is gold.

  • @cbh148
    @cbh148 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is sensational. As a mechanical engineer who rarely if ever gets that technical itch scratched by the motorsports media, which is largely devoid of intricate tech bits, this did an outstanding job of detailing and conveying so much of the design and stories of the MP4/4's program. Thank you!

    • @cbh148
      @cbh148 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      To anybody who reads this, go watch the extended cut of this video! The juicy tech bits are in full-effect; my cup runneth over!

  • @Ever443
    @Ever443 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Absolutely the Golden Era of F1, best sounding cars, great drivers and huge amount of different teams, engines etc To be able to touch one of the great cars that Senna drove is definitely on my bucket list. I’m in my 60’s now so working on that.

    • @chipsawdust5816
      @chipsawdust5816 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not Senna but I did manage to touch one of Shumacher's world championship cars in Maranello. It was in '06 at the museum, and they had pulled out the '04 car (iirc) from the display, along with Rubens' car, while they did something to the display itself. The car was just sitting there, no ropes around it or anything. Got a picture standing next to it as well, of course.

    • @korma9732
      @korma9732 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I sat in Red 5 at the first Goodwood Festival of Speed, won't let you near the cars now!

    • @NoeNoe-fz6uq
      @NoeNoe-fz6uq 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The cars were so beautiful in 1988

  • @aeiouxs
    @aeiouxs ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Possibly one of the most satisfying and incredible TH-cam videos I've seen in the last few years - and one of those rarities that will definitely be revisited. Thank you to all involved!

  • @markward4867
    @markward4867 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Fantastic episode.No loud music or gimmicky editing unlike some channels.Just straight forward conversation by experts in their fields.Always seems to be a Ron Dennis anectote in there!

    • @lesliejames9404
      @lesliejames9404 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And thank god for none of that utter nonsense. Listening to these legends talk about the car was beautiful.

    • @regiondeltas
      @regiondeltas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I just keep imagining what if this was on TV. It'd be the same length, but thered be advert breaks every 5 minutes, a catchup review after every break and it would be interspersed with cut aways explaining complex concepts such as wheels and wheel nuts using cartoon graphics.

  • @argentosebastian
    @argentosebastian 2 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    What a beautiful video!! After 30 years of his death, still can't watch a video related to Ayrton without shedding a tear.

    • @naklifade
      @naklifade 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      not even seeen him live ,watching f1 from 2016 still cant watch without tears

    • @davidfraser9365
      @davidfraser9365 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I believe that many people are the same. I am.

    • @The_ZeroLine
      @The_ZeroLine ปีที่แล้ว

      This might help. In 1991, he told me he hated you.

    • @davidfraser9365
      @davidfraser9365 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@The_ZeroLine Hark! Hark! What do I hear? ‘Tis the sound of a child murmuring? Oh quietly, let this girl of God reach out! Praise, her , I beseech you please join me in pray.

    • @The_ZeroLine
      @The_ZeroLine ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidfraser9365 Praise his name, brother. Praise his name.

  • @matthewconrad-jones8846
    @matthewconrad-jones8846 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    This channel goes from strength to strength and the sheer variety is amazing 👏👏👏

    • @LarsAgerbk
      @LarsAgerbk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I agree. Jay must own every shirt in the world.

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Certainly do

  • @sw96
    @sw96 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Got randomly recommended this video by YT last night, started watching with the plan of viewing the first 10-15 min before heading to bed, 75 minutes later and I was wishing for more.
    Content like this makes TH-cam worthwhile.

  • @MCLRN_GR
    @MCLRN_GR 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There literally no words to describe the feels.
    I was fortunate to meet Neil Trundle at MTC in 2019 during the event for the presentation for the MCL34. I attend with a friend of mine as guests and asked if we could speak to Neil Trundle to a PR staff. He replied that he would come to meet us.Neil was still working at McLaren. He is such a humble guy. You can see his smile and he is so friendly. He is a McLaren legend for all what he did for the Team during the decades and the joy of having a talk with him is priceless. You can see his hands and feel his offer as a mechanic with scratches and i shaked his hands feeling so much proud to been able to meet and talk with him some minutes about the MP4/4 and Ayrton.
    It was a magical joyrney back to 88 and watching Steve, Matthew and Neil talking on that car and year its emotional. You can literally hanging from their words and listening to their stories when you are a true McLaren passionate fan. I grow up with Mika as a champion but i dig to history learning about my Team legacy the past decades and im so proud.
    It was an excellent video and thank you for this. It makes it even more special that you let the talk to these gents and sharing their views around this car without getting in the middle asking questions. Well done and thank you again for this video.

  • @Mclboy914
    @Mclboy914 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As a hardcore McLaren fan these kind of videos are the stuff of dreams! My hart always skips a beat when i see a new video on JayEmm's channel. Sadly i was only two years old when this car came out so never had the pleasure of seeing it race in period at full bang. Ow how i wish i was born twenty years earlier. Evidently i reached out to Matthew and just made a payment for one of the prints signed by these three amazing people!

  • @neverleftthe80s29
    @neverleftthe80s29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    From back when F1 had 'soul'. Great memories seeing this era in Adelaide back in the day. Great video, thank you.

  • @NazarovVv
    @NazarovVv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was born in 1990. One of my very first memories ever is my mum telling me that Senna has died in a crash. I can't tell you for how long I've been interested in Formula 1 because from my point of view I've always have been. I became aware of the existence of the MP4/4 probably around 1998 when dad got me a small matchbox model of it. Anyone who's into motorsport and had matchbox cars as a kid knows that there's a special connection between you and those cars, it's as if you've somehow owned the real thing. Hell come to think of it now I've probably spend more time playing with the damned thing than Senna and Prost combined did driving the car during the 1988 season. Jay, words cannot even begin to explain how grateful I am for that video, to literally see my childhood into such an intimate detail was an absolutely profound experience. Thank you so much!

  • @sportzntouring
    @sportzntouring 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    A fantastic result! It was such a privilege for us to both play our small part in the making of this. A joy to watch yet again and relive this special day!

    • @andreedelslund2138
      @andreedelslund2138 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! I must check your content out some more, have really enjoyed everything I have seen from you two so far. Great work on this also, what a treat! Thanks.

    • @andreedelslund2138
      @andreedelslund2138 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Must have been amazing to lift that bodywork off, huh?😍 such a legendary car.

    • @sportzntouring
      @sportzntouring 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andreedelslund2138 thanks! Our content is a different style, so hope you like it... It was a treat doing this video with James, especially for Damani as he's just graduated with a degree in Motorsport engineering... So particularly cool for him. Thanks for watching!
      -Ant

    • @gold333
      @gold333 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well done x 10000

  • @Joescuderia
    @Joescuderia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I'm from Utah , once I was working alongside a guy that it seems knew nothing about cars . He looked a completely red neck. One day he saw my phone wallpaper in which I had this car , he smiled and told me his dad worked in Hercules back in the day as engineer and gave him a poster of this formula one car being built in Europe. Indeed Hercules fabricated the carbon fiber used in all those cars. Life has many ways to surprise you .

  • @BionicleJackson
    @BionicleJackson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I could almost hear Senna saying "Yeah, I was a little particular about things back then." in this video. How could it be any better than that. Thank you Jay & Guests

  • @ljones56974
    @ljones56974 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was born in '89 but look back to this era, and this year and car in particular as the pinnacle of F1. Amazing to see this car up close, its so so much more detailed and beautiful than I ever realised/one gets to realise from photographs and video footage. Amazing to see the different driving positions of Prost and Senna, but also all the small contours and aero, particularly round the back end and diffuser, the 'grooves' down either side of the nose and the carbon fibre, truly a work of art. I wish modern F1 looked as clean and as majestic as this, but of course safety has to some first. Great video, thanks so much!

  • @MrRoyck10
    @MrRoyck10 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Thanks JayEmm for raising the bar, excellent content!

  • @thecentralscrutinizer304
    @thecentralscrutinizer304 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Seriously the most beautiful F1 car ever designed. Its absolutely perfect. That Marlboro livery 🤩🥹

  • @jenshaga4256
    @jenshaga4256 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Certainly the best made automotive video I have ever experienced, made possible by brilliant presenters and skilled producers! This is an instant classic. Thank you for sharing.

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for your kind words Jens!

  • @PrinceCbass
    @PrinceCbass ปีที่แล้ว

    This is when the car required an excellent driver. Clutch, gear shift, blipping the throttle, adjusting brake bias and suspension. No traction control, no abs, and no BS. Beautiful car driven by the worlds best drivers...even amongst today's drivers. And this in depth conversation was an excellent listen.

  • @DahleJohannes
    @DahleJohannes 2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    I wasn't expecting a Christmas present from Mr. JayEmm this year, but thank you very much for this lovely piece of history! Incredibly interesting.

  • @Porsche996TT
    @Porsche996TT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is by far the best video I've seen about an F1 car.
    @1:00:09 "Hard going in, soft coming out" had me on the floor.

  • @sganzerlag
    @sganzerlag 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh my God!! Wow!! Just wow!! I have no words to describe how absolutely AMAZING this video is!! Thank you so much for making this film and documenting this oral history. I also thoroughly enjoyed and marvelled at the Steve Nichols interview videos. To put some context into what this car means to us Brazilians: Brazil was going through some very dark and difficult times back then. Senna, McLaren and the MP4/4 were one of the few really cool and inspiring things we had going on for Brazil at the time. Senna's victories and his display of his pride for his hardship-riddled and torn country were pivotal in helping to restore Brazilians' self-esteem and pride in their country. And, ultimately, breathing new life into hoping for a better future (which did eventually happen). This car was absolutely pivotal in making all that possible. I am so thankful to all the people who worked so hard to design, develop, maintain and sponsor this car during the Senna Years. Yall have no idea how much good you did for my country. I salute you. Best regards from Brasilia, Brazil. Ps: I am a huge fan of Piquet as well. Actually, more so than I am a fan of Senna. I would love to see some videos done on Piquet and his cars too, if at all feasible. Thanks!

  • @elwingy
    @elwingy ปีที่แล้ว +3

    incredible stuff! Bravo! I am a Ferrari fan but this iconic race car is not just one of the most successful F1 cars created, but also one of the most beautiful ones!

  • @althejazzman
    @althejazzman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    What an incredible opportunity to hear a full technical breakdown of this legendary F1 car, from the people who designed and worked on it. What a blessing that these people are still alive, well, and willing to share their knowledge. The same cannot be said for older, even more important F1 cars.

    • @goleafsgo8496
      @goleafsgo8496 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So true Alex and the memory of these gentleman makes you feel like it was just last week when Senna and Prost were racing.

  • @MrEhf111
    @MrEhf111 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For those who consider themselves a true F1 fan this is a must watch video . Very well done

  • @MarcelloAlbuquerque-rm9bp
    @MarcelloAlbuquerque-rm9bp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Amazing video. Being an engineer myself and a Senna fan, just loved the explanations of how they solved every engineering problem that was thrown at them. One can see the that the MP4/4 legend starts in the design and engineering of the aerodynamics, engine, suspension, goes through the track engineers who must solve issues on the go, and ends up in the hands of two of the greatest drivers.

  • @Troylito
    @Troylito 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this video because it celebrates the true designers of the car and gives a big ‘up yours’ to the guy (GM) who tried to steal all the glory and take all the credit. Great job for making this video to give credit where credit is due.

    • @Troylito
      @Troylito 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ...and GM has to just sit back and take it.

  • @nevillestimpson475
    @nevillestimpson475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    This is a fantastic video, what an insight into perhaps THE best car and winning periods of F1, so nice to hear in detail from the guys who were directly involved in the whole process. Excellent video Jay well done.

    • @mikespenceTHEGOATB
      @mikespenceTHEGOATB ปีที่แล้ว +1

      HONKY! (ELBOW)! PADS! FOR! WHEN! THE! FORMULA! ONE! DRIVER! IS! WORKING! THE! STEERING! (WHEEL)! HA! HA! HA!

  • @SCVintageAudio2023
    @SCVintageAudio2023 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No doubts at all, I will keep watching this video for the rest of my life.
    this is amazing!.
    Thank you to all involved, this is the biggest step in the last 10 yrs, to feel closer to my greatest idol of F1 Ayrton Senna.
    Thank you, thank you, thank you.

  • @FT-64
    @FT-64 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The pride and team spirit on display n the last 10 minutes of this video is tremendously inspirational. I want to show this to my R&D team, as a snapshot of how a successful team looks and feels.

  • @on7air
    @on7air 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this video! My childhood hero was Senna. Seeing these guys "tearing the car apart" was a fantastic experience. Knowing all the details, remembering all the stories.. simply WOW!!

  • @benzina5917
    @benzina5917 2 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Absolutely superb video. It is a little comical that Gordon Murray is not once mentioned. I suppose he has gotten the spotlight for far too long on this car and it is wonderful to see the REAL contributors step forward to share their experiences. Thank you so much for producing this.

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  2 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      My absolute pleasure. If you saw our previous video on the genesis of the 4/4 then you may see why Gordon is not mentioned

    • @benzina5917
      @benzina5917 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@JayEmmOnCars Yes another wonderful production that I thoroughly enjoyed. Thank you again for the excellent content.

    • @katout75
      @katout75 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      If Murray had been prior informed of this video he might have come with another "cease and desist" letter for the McLaren personnel. Similar to what he did after a technical talk given by Steve Nichols last year. A brilliant designer Gordon Murray, but he can be extremely conceited when it comes to the MP4/4 where he tries to take the vast majority of credit for the overall concept and design. Earlier this year McLaren hosted many of the MP4/4 design team (including Nichols) for a get together/meeting at McLaren Technology Centre. Murray was not there, not sure if he was even invited.

    • @trollextreme9438
      @trollextreme9438 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      its pathetic that murray is made redundant on the mp4/4..as if he had zero contribution when he clearly had put his ideas into the 4/4

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@trollextreme9438 This video isn't about Gordon Murray - the last one was, and nobody felt there was any need to discuss the topic further.
      Gordon was given an open invite to talk to me and has not taken it, so I can't say I haven't been fair!

  • @mitchellpatterson3323
    @mitchellpatterson3323 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What an incredible hour and a 1/4 of viewing. I could have just listened to those gentleman talk for an entire day. The insights idea and solutions that you or I could never come up with are just incredible.

  • @mattbrown1114
    @mattbrown1114 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am 55...I was a huge Senna fan growing up so this video was so special to me. Thank you for doing this.

  • @nolimits4942
    @nolimits4942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This was a great video Jay. Thank you for keeping almost the entire video raw. Just makes it look more authentic (not that you needed it with the presence of these gentlemen).

  • @srinitaaigaura
    @srinitaaigaura ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video series is probably the best possible example to show you why the boss or management can never take credit for the entire achievement, the real heroes are often further down the order, below the radar. And sometimes it's not even remotely the management's achievement at all. Gordon Murray is no doubt one of those engineers who could completely design a car himself, and he has the F1 and T50 to his name and unique vision. But the MP4/4 isn't really his glory, he had very little input in it, but took all the credit. I didn't think a man of his merits could be so dishonest, but here he was. Now I realize Steve Nichols was EXTREMELY underrated.

  • @dellhell8842
    @dellhell8842 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Exceptional video James. Just so entertaining to watch these three gentlemen walk us through the masterpiece of engineering that was the MP 4/4.

  • @MrGsteele
    @MrGsteele 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This brought me back to the stress and tension that preceded every race - indeed, every competition - of every kind in which I participated as a young man - whether SCCA, Formula Ford, motocross, Olympic sailing - every one of which required fastidious and obsessive attention to the smallest detail, and agonizing over both the known issues and those you knew had to be there, but that you knew that you hadn't yet seen. Behind the wheel, or bars, or on the tiller, or flying the trapeze, your mind was at warp speed looking and listening and feeling for the least hint that something was about to go toes up, while in tune with the absolute music of the things that were going right.
    This brought back the endless late nights and long days, the tacking drills, the obsessive fettling and tweaking, and the massive satisfaction when you got it right, and crossed the line first. What a wonderful retrospective and superb insight into that team, at that time, operating at the pinnacle of a sport. Truly a microscope on the behind the scenes world of what it takes to be competitive at the top. Excellent. Thank you.

  • @KL50450
    @KL50450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great video James!👍🏽🙏🏼. Best 1hr+ ever spent on TH-cam for me. The “Just let them talk” concept makes this a gem. Having seen this car race back in the days, it’s wonderful to learn from its creators. What a great time it must hve been.

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It was amazing to produce this, and a pleasure to share

  • @jozefserf2024
    @jozefserf2024 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    7kg of paint! Fantastic recall of events from over 30 years ago.
    With top people and top engineering, this car was possibly the biggest advance over its predecessors.

  • @tristanparry5155
    @tristanparry5155 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The wonder years of F1. Prost, Senna, Mansell et al. What a magnificent car. Just incredible. I was in my early thirties and just transfixed. A fan for life. Thank you for a brilliant video (as a videographer - some colour matching and grading between cameras would be the icing on the cake.)

  • @MrGoat73
    @MrGoat73 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    What a stunning car. Sublime engineering, attention to detail & problem solving. And decent, charming & humble blokes too. Thanks for making & uploading this, it's great to see it up close & hear the processes behind it! Excellent job.

  • @betarho3046
    @betarho3046 ปีที่แล้ว

    As an engineer, this is absolutely brilliant to hear directly from the designers and engineers who were responsible for the development of one of the most important cars in F1 history. This is probably one of the best films I have watched where it is a technical discussion with some detail design insights without the usual 'gee whiz' bumpf so commonly used. Thanks to all

  • @wings9925
    @wings9925 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Such an amazing film. Thank you to everyone involved in bringing it to us. THIS car above all others cemented my love of motor racing as a 14 year old, watching it with my dad. The adage of "if it looks right it'll fly right" applies here too. Its minimalist, purposeful and beautiful. Seeing these hugely talented people talking about their creation and its application on track with such pride and wonder is amazing to behold. Its actually very moving for me; particularly as my dad is no longer with us and I have fantastic childhood memories of watching every race with him, from tender years through until I left home as a young adult. He'd have loved this film as much as I. Bravo, I salute you. 👏 Also a note on how great its been to read the comments here from McLaren employees, other racers and race fan. Thank you all.

  • @micdev42
    @micdev42 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think this will go down as a landmark automotive video. I've never seen anything like it. the detail, the obvious love in the team. Outstanding.

  • @_Ben4810
    @_Ben4810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Amazing production...No questions, nobody talking over each other, just letting these guys do their thing... Would love to see the Lotus 79 explained in a similar manner by Peter Wright, Tony Southgate, Martin Ogilvie, Nigel Bennett & Bob Dance....🙏

  • @grahamHarper-uy3jv
    @grahamHarper-uy3jv 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sublime presentation. When the body was lifted it still looks beautiful.
    It is surely the epitome of teamwork.
    I’m reliving the few years my Dad would wake me at 4 am for the journey to the British GP.

  • @vanderguest
    @vanderguest ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fantastic video, a joy to watch the creators of this car talking about it and the engineering behind it, as well as about the teamwork needed to race it. As a brasilian, the way Senna is mentioned is very touching also.

  • @live4life767
    @live4life767 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The beauty & practicality of simplicity.
    In my opinion the f1 cars of the 1980’s-1990’s were the most beautiful cars of all time.

  • @Granattaaaaaa
    @Granattaaaaaa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    One year ago that amazing interview, and now this... Early Christmas gifts. thank you!

  • @Christophe_L
    @Christophe_L ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The car without its shell looks literally visceral. It looks like it's designed to shred. What a beautiful machine. How a bunch of cogs and wheels arranged in a particular manner as this is able to conjure such deep feelings is amazing.

  • @jonathanlewis1352
    @jonathanlewis1352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Absolutely INSPIRING! Educational, emotional and the three gentlemen are role models for integrity and humbleness after creating a masterpiece of art and engineering. Happy New Year to all!

  • @jesseshaffer6105
    @jesseshaffer6105 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This continues to be one of my favorite videos of all time no matter how many times I watch it. Thank you so much for getting these people together and capturing this.

  • @phil4986
    @phil4986 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A truly amazing assemblage of racing craftsmanship. I will never forget Prost and Senna neck and neck in those days. Truly, one the shining eras in all of auto racing. Thank you to everyone at McLaren who put their souls into these cars. Your dedication showed through every race.

  • @dme2453
    @dme2453 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cleverly simplistic. Probably the most beautiful F1 car ever. Thanks for the dissection boys.

  • @sayrerowan734
    @sayrerowan734 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Holy crap Jay. This little TH-cam channel sure has come a long way. I'm enjoying the ride.
    A smashingly brilliant video all around.

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks for being a part of it!

    • @EdgyNumber1
      @EdgyNumber1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JayEmmOnCars Yup, definitely big league serious stuff Jay, I hope you get to interview many more people in the vast automotive industry. Designer Peter Stevens might be an interesting one to check out, for example.

  • @carguy7627
    @carguy7627 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is really special - I feel privileged to be able to learn from the people that created such a special car. I'm very appreciative that these gentleman we willing to share their history with us - what a treat!

  • @JM-sj5zh
    @JM-sj5zh 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    A fantastic film, you should more videos like this James, thanks to all those involved in making it. As a technical nerd and someone who used to work on historic race cars, it's wonderful to see all the details of the design and how it was built. Your reviews have also given me a lot of information (and confidence) to start my own collection of cars, so thank you!

    • @Cloxxki
      @Cloxxki ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine how much work this was to set up, film and edit, for 675K views? Frankly, McLaren should buy this film from him for a fair amount.

  • @anthonystevens403
    @anthonystevens403 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    oh beautiful work guys

  • @joppy232
    @joppy232 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this is absolute gold. thank you so much for bringing such a treat to us!

  • @eaglemesc
    @eaglemesc 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was born in 1986...I was lucky to still catch the golden age of F1 and I am very grateful when my father and I watched F1 every Sunday.
    Nice memories☺.
    Thanks and tribute to the engineers, mechanics and racers for the technical art on four wheels!👍🏎
    greetings

  • @leoa4c
    @leoa4c 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    For someone who "did not design the car", Steve Nichols does seem to know a lot about the design process. A lot more than someone else whom I also idolize.
    It's pretty clear to me who designed the car and who oversaw the design process.

  • @richhowe7193
    @richhowe7193 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Easily the best video I’ve seen on F1. Three experts, one iconic car and you just let them talk, fantastic.

  • @Depinor
    @Depinor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Outstanding Jay. Could listen to these guys for hours. Brilliant👍

    • @sportzntouring
      @sportzntouring 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      We literally did... And it still wasn't enough 😃

  • @digbickboss_bdb
    @digbickboss_bdb ปีที่แล้ว

    Listening to a bunch of guys enthusiastically talking about a masterpiece they built is such a joy. Thanks Jay for this amazing documentary

  • @dannyboyy31
    @dannyboyy31 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Well played Jay. This is a fascinating insight, and perfectly timed as I'm currently reading Malcolm Folley's book 'Prost v Senna'.
    The 4/4 is one of the most beautiful F1 cars, in my opinion. It just looks right. The livery, and those clean, simple lines just work perfectly.

  • @tecontech663
    @tecontech663 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Only 3 minutes in and know this is going to be very, very special.... Thank you.

  • @david______9500
    @david______9500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    As others have said, this is a truly exceptional production, easily worthy of television and would be watched by many if it was. No idea how you made this all happen James, but I hope you're becoming ever more recognised for the quality of your content on TH-cam and hopefully many more opportunities to come. I'd been beginning to think the channel needed a bit more to it than the test drives. The addition of these interviews is a great way to expand. Well done.

    • @JayEmmOnCars
      @JayEmmOnCars  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks David. I'm always thinking of ways to change it up - though it's easier said than done on YT

    • @andrewpease3688
      @andrewpease3688 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Don't be silly! No one is going to be interested in anything other than strictly and enders, it's almost like bbc staff don't actually know what a hard day's work looks like and we can just buy everything from China. No one is going to be interested in engineering

  • @x3a3x3
    @x3a3x3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I remember being a young teen watching Senna’s final race live on tv and the seeing a whole country fall into tears as if we had lost a brother or a son. Senna was deeply loved and respected by all Brazilians and F1 and automobile lovers. Truly a tragic day.. I cried as if I had lost an old friend..

    • @DodgyBrothersEngineering
      @DodgyBrothersEngineering ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I sometimes wish I had never heard the name Senna, then I wouldn't have this hole inside me that can't be filled. Even now I can't think about him without tearing up. Both of my parents dying came nowhere near close to the grief I felt that day and continue to feel.

    • @stevetheodore_specialtycars
      @stevetheodore_specialtycars ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'm still crying, and will for the rest of my life. He was an absolute LEGEND.

  • @markcauchi1
    @markcauchi1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A great record from the people who really made a difference to the sport. Awesome and great.....

  • @RATsnak3
    @RATsnak3 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    WHAT? I cannot say I ever expected to see something like this in my recommended videos. Whoever approved this and everyone involved THANK YOU. This is great.

  • @Adam151082
    @Adam151082 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Such an amazing car!!
    Fascinating video Jay. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️