Talking Trash Aboard USS Cod: Garbage Disposal on Submarines in WWII

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  • @dw3897
    @dw3897 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    In 1976 I was on the tin can tender AD26 Shennadoah at Norfolk D&S piers. The sub tender AS36 L Y Spears was brethed there as well. Everytime we had to go over there for some part or something, we alway took 5 lb tins of coffee for trade.

  • @klsc8510
    @klsc8510 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Paul, you will enjoy this Air Force story from my TDY to Dhahran Saudi Arabia in 1982.
    Gas, was 10 cents a gallon, but we were only allowed so many liters per week. At times that wasn't enough. Our motor Sergeant learned the I believe Pakistani was the duty person at the air base gas station had a weakness for powdered sugar donuts. Every day we had a standing order for two bakers tray of donuts from the Ramada Inn that was our quarters and dining facility all on the King's tab. So when we needed more gas, the motor Sergeant would pass the word not to touch the powdered sugar donuts. He would grab 4 and some foil and wrap the donuts. When he got to the base gas station, he would place the foil wrapped donuts, slightly opened, on the counter and ask for the extra gas. The attendant would glace at the foil and say in slightly broken English, "Sure, sure, take what you need." When the motor Sergeant returned the foil was in the trash and only a slight dusting of powdered sugar remained on the counter.
    So we used the King's donuts to bribe the King's gas station attendant to get the King's gas. Paul, you just can't make this stuff up!
    I think that tops your can of coffee bribe!

    • @paulfarace9595
      @paulfarace9595 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Indeed it does!

    • @klsc8510
      @klsc8510 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Paul, another Navy garbage tale is in the movie "Away All Boats".

  • @wbix2298
    @wbix2298 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As @bloodworthmagic pointed out some items needed special handling prior to disposal. What impressed me was that burned out florescent lightbulbs had to be stored onboard until return to port. Couldn't put them down the TDU as they would implode under pressure, giving away position. Couldn't break them onboard and then dispose of them as they contained mercury. Got to love LED if those are able to go down the TDU.

  • @frankbodenschatz173
    @frankbodenschatz173 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks for talking trash with us Paul. Always a breath of fresh air.

  • @iwantmyvanback
    @iwantmyvanback 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    The battle of pedantic videos with Battleship New Jersey is probably the funniest feud on the Internet.

    • @scipioafricanus4328
      @scipioafricanus4328 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Agree, I love the banter between these two!

    • @BIBSTERSrepairshop
      @BIBSTERSrepairshop 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes I really like as the uss cod has started to really build their own style of videos

  • @bloodworthmagic
    @bloodworthmagic 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

    All air tight containers, bottles, jars etcetera had to be open or broken.When they shink to great depths, they would implode and make a popping noise If this was not done. Giving away our location. Also, the Cans that were ejected were stored efficiently as flat sheet metal that were preforated With tabs and a round top and bottom. as one piece, it would be folded into a cylinder with the tabs bending and locking it together. Iron disk shaped weights were added to Inside bottom of the can. I was a sonarman on the Daniel Webster SSBN and the Tinosa SSN

    • @tomtrenter3208
      @tomtrenter3208 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      I was on CGC Morgenthau in mid 1970's and one time we were passing by Newfoundland (50+ miles) when a new guy took out our trash in plastic bags weighted down but didn't poke holes in the bag and tossed them over the side. A few weeks later we got a nastygram from District because one of the bags floated ashore in Newfoundland. They knew where it came from because there were papers inside with Morgnthau's name on them.

    • @bloodworthmagic
      @bloodworthmagic 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Also, you had to wear gloves when forming the cans. Cuts and slashes from the sharp edges were not uncommon.

    • @tomhenry897
      @tomhenry897 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What was the fine

    • @tomtrenter3208
      @tomtrenter3208 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tomhenry897 I don't know, I was just a lowly E4.

    • @jeffcummings696
      @jeffcummings696 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also served aboard the Tiltin' T 88-91. Always referred to them as Trash Disposal Unit (TDU).

  • @Axel0204
    @Axel0204 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    USS Miami was my boat! (M-div from 2005-2013). Glad to hear my boat was able to help! Also, yes, the Virginia-class boats are still using those cans.

  • @1boortzfan
    @1boortzfan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Another great job Paul. It's great to see that the devil is in the details. You guys do a great job of keeping everything real.

  • @johnslaughter5475
    @johnslaughter5475 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    My heart beat goes way up every time I hear "Anchor's Aweigh." I loved my time in the Navy, especially on sea duty.
    Things have changed tremendously over the years as we've worked on saving our ecology. I worked in the scullery in Ranger. Assuming the fantail was open, anytime we didn't have flight ops and we were at sea, we'd take those 32 gallon cans to the fantail and dump them straight down a chute that was mounted there on the centerline. This directed the garbage down where our inboard turning screws would suck them under and mix them thoroughly. When sweepers was called, every division throughout the ship would be taking their trash cans (cleaned up for the non-Navy people) to the fantail and dumping them down the chute.
    On my first cruise, our CAG (a commander in those days) would join us. He brought his Smith-Wesson .357 Magnum with him. He'd have all of us with regular trash throw pieces of crumpled paper beyond our wake so he could target shoot at them. This gentleman was indicative of our officers that cruise. Everyone there was a non-rate. He would let us try our hand at firing that beautiful weapon. I loved that big grip. I've large hands and it fitted just perfectly. Possibly the sweetest weapon I ever handled.

    • @klsc8510
      @klsc8510 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      One way too get a bang out of the dirty detail!

  • @scottgrimwood8868
    @scottgrimwood8868 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    The film Run Silent, Run Deep emphasizes the need for a subs garbage to sink!

  • @NoewerrATall
    @NoewerrATall 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    That story about talking trash with the captain of the USS Miami was really interesting. You just never know where inspiration will strike!

  • @williamstewart9769
    @williamstewart9769 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Long ago and far away, a nuc boat in the Med had been doing submarine sneaky stuff for a month and accumulated a considerable volume of trash to discard. We hadn't used the GDU / TDU during that month so as to stay quiet and because the lower ball valve leaked. After finishing our sneaky stuff, it was time to debulk. So in the wee hours of one fine night, we surfaced and I was one of the group sent up to the bridge to throw it over the side. One of the things to be discarded was a box of metal pie plates. How do you spell temptation? So, we, two mess cooks and the JOOD, played frisbee for a while until the control room called up and asked how much longer we needed to dump the trash. With a gentleman's agreement not to blab on each other, we went back down into the hull, play time over but greatly enjoyed.

    • @eecajledo8430
      @eecajledo8430 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Just wondering, When you are doing the sneaky stuff, Do yall turn on the blue or red lights like in the movies and vidoe games? Or is that not a thing anymore ?

    • @williamstewart9769
      @williamstewart9769 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We would typically "rig-for-red" in the control room about 15 minutes before coming to periscope depth during hours of darkness topside to allow the OOD's eyes to become dark adapted for periscope use.@@eecajledo8430

    • @exsubmariner
      @exsubmariner 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@eecajledo8430blackout curtains would be rigged at each end of the control room red lighting would be rigged for dark hours and black lighting would be rigged whilst at periscope depth to make it easier to look out of the periscope in the control room Normal white lighting would be the order of the day throughout the submarine except for bunk spaces Royal navy preferred to use red lighting

  • @curtloge4775
    @curtloge4775 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    We had a problem with our GDU (lower ball valve was fouled). Remarkable how important garbage disposal is. (637 class sub)

  • @Gamer_1745
    @Gamer_1745 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I love how much you are trying the make the Sub historically correct in details!

  • @sdfiddler
    @sdfiddler 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Former ETR2(ss), served on the 740(g) in the early 2000's. In my Radio Room, we had 2 or 3 of those. Sometimes, they're used to hold a binder or publication. The rest would usually have a small garbage bag. I have many hours emptying those after watch and during field days while underway! They sure can make a clang if accidentally dropped! There would usually be several in different areas depending on the location. Control would have some located in strategic locations so as not to impede operation, state rooms would usually have one, and offices would have one or two depending on the size.

    • @sdfiddler
      @sdfiddler 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Our 'TDU' on the 740, I've helped load cans and weights into the TDU room many times while in port, or sometimes at sea as a nub crank. The operator would roll the can, bend the tabs, and fasten the bottom. They'd weight to 54lbs, when full. And shoot about 4x at a time while at sea. Messy messy business. Never envied the TDU operator! On my boat... it was usually an A Ganger on their first patrol.

  • @robertweldon7909
    @robertweldon7909 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    OH yes, that's just how you got stuff you wanted, and could NEVER get through PROPER channels. It is actually against regulations too, but as long as it never left the Navy, and it wasn't to big, like a refrigerator, it was condoned. I personally "traded" stuff for my shop numerous times. ;)

  • @anthonycordovano2438
    @anthonycordovano2438 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Sculpin SSN590, built by Ingalls in Mississippi had, in my memory, the same small trash cans. We also had larger round cans 9" in diameter by 30" in length. Lined by nylon mesh bags and weighted by flat iron disks. Food waste had a plastic bag liner. Our TDU was in the galley. On the midwatch, the cook/baker and I believe the Auxiliary watch stander shot the TDU 3 bags at a time. I vaguely remember the metal sheets. The garbage was stored in "garbage corner" which was by the reefers/freezer. Oddly this was just fwd of an intake for the ventilation recirc fan. The first bag into the TDU was gingerly placed in the tube, as not to damage the hull ball valve. I never personally operated the TDU, it goes without saying it was a very controlled evolution. Last thing you wanted was a 10" hole in the "people tank."

  • @xbubblehead
    @xbubblehead 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I remember doing the coffee routine to get some crane support during marginally rainy weather in the 60's.

  • @robertporterfield9578
    @robertporterfield9578 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Good presentation! When I was mess cooking we requested permission to dump trash and garbage from the chief of the watch in the Control Room. He would contact the OOD on the bridge with our request. Only after the OOD granted permission did we carry the T & G to the control room and proceed topside with it.

  • @rclooking99
    @rclooking99 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    They always claim Larry Bird was the number 1 trash talker, but I think Paul could give him a run for his money! Another very informative presentation. Thanks.

  • @xbubblehead
    @xbubblehead 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    When lowering the cans into the GDU, one had to be gentle especially with the first one so as not to damage the ball valve at the bottom of the GDU.

  • @patcb829
    @patcb829 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What a great video. I loved the story of acquiring your stainless steel trash can.

  • @jrkat
    @jrkat 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    We had gdu’s in the aft engine room even we ejected rags oil and residue from the fuel purifier now days I realize how environmentally bad that was

  • @milwaukeeroadjim9253
    @milwaukeeroadjim9253 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    On the SSBNs of the early 70s they were called TDU (trash disposal unit). Worked the same as your GDU. I saw the units in the galleys as there was a big push to replace the Terrazzo decks with ceramic tile. Didn't help as the ceramic tile also buckled during patrol. My tender also had a valve shop the seemed to only work on TDU valves.

  • @93FORDMUSTANG
    @93FORDMUSTANG 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Love to hear any mention of Clamagore. My grandfather's sub, and no offense to cod, my favorite sub. I wish she would have had as good of a crew as you guys! Perhaps it could have helped to save her.

  • @lawrenceberlinski7643
    @lawrenceberlinski7643 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    We called it the TDU (Trash Disposal Unit). I was on a Trident, so a bit more modern.

    • @1SemperDad
      @1SemperDad 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      We called it a TDU as well. SSBN 657 (Benjamin Franklin Class). There were two types of items that went into the TDU, soft bags (sometimes referred as "wet bags", and the make as needed "Cans". The wet bags were made of a nylon mesh. Food scrapes generally went into into the wet bags. Paper, cans, and other hard items went into the cans. There was a hydraulic compactor to smash as much trash as possible into the cans. During TDU ops, several "wetbags" were placed in the TDU first to protect the muzzle ball valve from damage. The trash was not ejected but simply fell out the bottom. I believe there was a minimum weight each can had to be to insure it sank. On a SSBN, you never wanted the TDU to be out of service. In that event, we would have to commandeer a unused auxiliary tank to store the garbage until after patrol. After patrol, there would have to be a bucket brigade from the tank access to topside (generally the bridge) for disposal. Not a pleasent event.

  • @wbix2298
    @wbix2298 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    GDU or TDU. I am going to give it a WAG and say the early units were GDU. Emptied by the weight of the garbage falling out the bottom. In my days of the '60s and "70s it was a TDU. Same system but with a connection to the trim system piping to assist in a clean flush to help prevent fouling of the muzzle valve. And the muzzle valve was a larger diameter than the tube bore. I hope enemy countries don't know about this.

  • @joefrawley5295
    @joefrawley5295 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Who knew trash could be so entertaining thanks.

  • @robertroth287
    @robertroth287 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Ben, the lowly non-qual, is forced to listen to Paul's trash talk. Just lovely, really.

  • @johnnyliminal8032
    @johnnyliminal8032 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice nod to the secrecy of the Silent Service there. “We welcome info, if you can talk about it”.
    I imagine designers inventing some really really cheap steel, that rusts like crazy, but the contract ends up really expensive.
    There is an ecosystem on the bottom of oceans that fully consumes whale carcasses (“whale falls”). All in good time, the bones take the longest but that too. I wonder if bubbleheads add whale-flavouring to their garbage.

  • @redriverraider
    @redriverraider 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good history lesson. Still get distracted by that pencil sharpener in the galley!

    • @paulfarace9595
      @paulfarace9595 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      See it's vid r o in our archive

  • @jastrapper190
    @jastrapper190 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Another interesting and informative video. Great job guys.

  • @0Sirk0
    @0Sirk0 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    5:10
    "...he came back to the boat quite crestfallen...."
    This is Gold!
    Stainless steel used on subs is called CRES!!!
    That's some high level humor, intentional or otherwise

    • @wbix2298
      @wbix2298 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      CRES - not pronounced as a word or acronym, but individual letters. Corrosive Resistant Steel.

    • @0Sirk0
      @0Sirk0 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wbix2298 HELL YES IT IS PRONOUNCED CRESS!!
      Brah, I've worked it, I've been around other welders and their bosses, enginerds -you name it, it's cress.

    • @wbix2298
      @wbix2298 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We traveled in different circles. Mine did not WORK with the material, only lived with it day in and day out. I don't give a damn what it was called, just thought my world has the correct name. Enjoy April fools day. Bix

    • @0Sirk0
      @0Sirk0 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@wbix2298 k!

  • @billsmith8739
    @billsmith8739 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It is called...Comshaw.

  • @donchaput8278
    @donchaput8278 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    4 or 5 cans? Wow? We have one Garbage and one "Recycle" in Phoenix AZ

    • @paulfarace9595
      @paulfarace9595 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Your one can is much larger than the typical can of days past!

  • @radimkolar2270
    @radimkolar2270 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Greetings from the Czech Republic, cheers!
    :3

  • @prsklenar
    @prsklenar 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Would the USS Nautilus (SSN-571) have had a GDU? I guess I need to get down to New London to look. Great show tonight!

  • @williamkaczmarek3996
    @williamkaczmarek3996 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I served on the Key, SSBN 657 (G) and we called it the Trash Disposal Unit (TDU).

    • @zeke7237
      @zeke7237 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      642(g) here .. loading tdu weights sucked

  • @LunaRayToo
    @LunaRayToo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Coffee makes the world go around!

  • @Russojap2
    @Russojap2 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Another super interesting video!

  • @BB12659
    @BB12659 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Toss it over the side, but weigh it down, you don't want anything like happened to Kraut Mueller on "Run Silent, Run Deep," eh?

  • @cneuzil
    @cneuzil 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I guess if you couldn't burn Ryan's underwear you had to throw them overboard, I assume they required their own burlap sack.

  • @Name-ot3xw
    @Name-ot3xw 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Back in '96 you had to do chalk rubbings, in '24 my phone can take a reasonable 3d model of the object in about a minute.

  • @chrismason7066
    @chrismason7066 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You guys are doing great. Keep up w the videos!

  • @0Sirk0
    @0Sirk0 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    For the trash cans, Yes. They are.

  • @deanieedwards8117
    @deanieedwards8117 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Howdy, from Wesson Mississippi

  • @Kevin-go2dw
    @Kevin-go2dw 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Paul, you forgot to empty the ash trays.

  • @ArcticBlues1
    @ArcticBlues1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good Job!
    Thank You :)

  • @tomhenry897
    @tomhenry897 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wouldn’t paper be burned or shredded to make it unreadable just incase it was found?

    • @paulfarace9595
      @paulfarace9595 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not shredded back in the day... and you really don't want to burn this is inside a submarine. Top Secret Classified papers were printed on water soluble paper that rapidly disintegrated in water.

  • @donaldhill3823
    @donaldhill3823 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Trash cans remained same up to 1990s & probably the same today because they work. Weights for TDU (trash disposal units) were 7lbs disk. It was common joke to fill bags with TDU weights & have several crew men carry them from 1 end of submarine to other end to mess with a new Diving officer who was responsible for maintaining neutral bouncy of the ship including balancing the various tanks so that the ship remained level while submerged. Moving the TDU weights along with weight of individual crew members would throw off his calculations.

  • @FrancSchiphorst
    @FrancSchiphorst 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    @18:51 top left corner, is that knot some sailor art or does it have a function?

  • @nx014
    @nx014 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    USS Cod Submarine Memorial- does it get hot during the spring and summer months there in Cleveland, OH. if yes, how do you keep the USS Cod, "cool"?

    • @paulfarace9595
      @paulfarace9595 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shipboard ventilation system and fans.

    • @nx014
      @nx014 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@paulfarace9595 thanks for your answer. I remember touring the Cod back during the summer of 2008.

  • @jastrapper190
    @jastrapper190 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No “plastic Pizza” making machine? Lol

  • @remb9614
    @remb9614 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here’s a weird question. Is there a library onboard?

  • @professorsogol5824
    @professorsogol5824 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Burlap is not watertight at all.. And ketchup ferments nicely in the bin. So the trash dumper had to drag a bag full of leaking foul-smelling stuff through the boat, up the ladders and outside leaving a trail of nasty juice on the deck. Didn't the boats have some kind of container to temporarily hold the stinky juice until it was time to put it over the side?

  • @brooklynbummer
    @brooklynbummer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have visited the Cod.

  • @waynewolfe8817
    @waynewolfe8817 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Paul, did you bring the coffee?

  • @peterharband326
    @peterharband326 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Maybe you could do a vid on how to flush the heads. I know on U boats is was rather complex.

    • @paulfarace9595
      @paulfarace9595 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No more complex than anyone else's heads...😮

    • @peterharband326
      @peterharband326 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@paulfarace9595Yes more too it than your household toilet.

  • @dogloversrule8476
    @dogloversrule8476 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    20:49 Nautilus probably has one

  • @sc1338
    @sc1338 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I miss clamagore

  • @jrmotorsports5532
    @jrmotorsports5532 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If the design works, why change it, LOL.

  • @haunter_1845
    @haunter_1845 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Growler would have a GDU, I think?

  • @mrkeiths48
    @mrkeiths48 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    594 class......TDU.

  • @tomswisher5305
    @tomswisher5305 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Educated guess: “Non-qual” is a crew member who isn’t yet a fully qualified submariner, right?

  • @DikkeBetha
    @DikkeBetha 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice video but... can the camera-person please hold the camera still for cod sakes (getting sea-sick over here). Use a tripod for static footage like this. And the audio is terrible in this particular video.

  • @schoppepetzer9267
    @schoppepetzer9267 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    6:00 Male priviledge at work here: scraping food off plates :)

    • @s.porter8646
      @s.porter8646 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A what...

  • @the_lost_navigator
    @the_lost_navigator 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    A Lock on the Garbage Compartment? Oh - gotta keep them Officers from grabbing a midnight snack, eh? I'd ask you why but you threw out my last question... This video was garbage. I mean your commentary stunk, and your presentation was just rotten... Kudos, Sir ;)

    • @paulfarace9595
      @paulfarace9595 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Don't go boating anytime soon😮😅😅😅

    • @williamkaczmarek3996
      @williamkaczmarek3996 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@paulfarace9595 I believe that He was being what we submariners call "a smart ass" and he was referring to the stinky topic that you presented. Not your acting skills! But, I could be wrong. It happened once 🙂