Schlatt actually died to a stroke. Tubbo and Tommy just thought it was a heart attack, but smelling toast is actually a common sign that you're about to suffer a stroke
Wilbur just wrote "schlatt has a heart attack and fucking die" in the script. And schlatt be like: what did Wilbur write for me? I have a heart attack and fucking die,oh I smells toast. He shouldn't said I smells toast if the script just worte he have a heart attack.
Someone else came up with this theory and now I’m scared af Spoilers for Tommy’s stream: also tw: death, and suicide (it’s just a theory tho) So ummm did anyone else feel like Tommy was talking almost as though he was going to die? And that got me thinking. what if it was Tommy who stole the nuke? And he is planning a suicide mission to kill Dream, where he uses the tnt canon to open a hole to get in and then when he reaches Dream he detonates the nuke which would kill both of them? He also was talking about doing it for the greater good, so what if what Wilbur said to him in the afterlife about how they “made the server worse” got to him and he thinks it would better for everyone if he died again but this time taking Dream with him?
i did get something wrong in this video: techno didn’t take a canon life from tommy - all 3 of them were taken by dream (final control room, duel, and prison). thank you to the comments that clarified this to me! these videos are a one person job, so i’m bound to make a few mistakes here and there, but i will be sure to proofread my scripts a few more times next time. i hope the rest of the video is still helpful to you! 💜 edit: yes, i know that the disc is far, not cat. i just needed a pic of tommy holding some discs and that was the only one i could find heh. contrary to popular belief, i also am not drista.
I think it counts just not as one of his 3 main lives. I think the non canon deaths do count as deaths,they are just not bothered by them that much. I like to think that the server itself decides what is a canon death or not.And that when a canon death is coming or when there is actual danger,the characters feel it.I think all deaths are canon,just in a different way.I like to think that the "non canon" deaths do hurt but so much less than the canon ones.Since i don't wanna break the fourth wall,i can't mention writers.So instead i say it's the server itself deciding what is a more important death.I'm bad at explaining things but i hope some people understand what i'm trying to say.
@@aaronxlycan2880 he is a child that's what children do not listen and break rules I don't think adults are meant to manipulate children and threaten to kill them or just kill then yk ( I'm talking about character dream )
@@mosquiche9359 no his character isn't Wilbur just thought 13 years has passed in the normal world too he got confused I think his character is still a miner
@@OhSeeBarber Ah yes.... Tommy and his friends used Techno in the pogtopia vs manburg war by replacing Wilburs role as president to Tubbo. Techno is an anarchist so.... He didnt like it. Tommy onced again used Techno for hiding him from Dream after Tommy escaped exile. Techno said he wanted to destroy lmanberg with Tommy but Tommy didnt agree and decided to fight along side lmanberg. Wich also means Tommy betrayed Techno *again.* And also, Tommy never thought Techno as a friend, and Techno knew all along. So your commemt wasnt an insult but a fact except for the end. If you meant in character, thats pog. (Sorry for bad grammar)
Just a little clarification, from my understanding, Tommy's original deal with Techno was that Tommy would only help Techno get his armor and tools back from L'manburg, and that he'd only participate in minor acts of terrorism, in return, Techno would help get the discs back. It wasn't until just before the community house incident that Techno revealed that the only goal the whole time was to destroy L'manburg completely. Tommy, sort of agreed? but was very on the fence about it when the Community House thing happened and Tommy realized he wasn't being true to himself or his friends while he was with Techno. This is what lead to the betrayal I believe. What I think is most important about this fact, is that Techno is NOT absolved of blame in the situation. Techno claims he was clear in his intentions, but he wasn't. He was only really "clear" at the very very end, and left Tommy with no other choices, and refused compromise. While Techno has every right to be angry for being treated like a weapon, Techno dose have to realize that he is not the only victim of betrayal here. The problem with Techno's character is very much his mentality on "His way or the High way." Its anarchy or death with him and he never once dose he think about the consequences of Anarchy on anyone except him and maybe Phil. Sure he and Phil would thrive in an anarchist world, because they have the power and skill to do so, but what about everyone else? What about the people who cant defend themselves, or those who don't have the resources to fight? Are they just too weak to have the right to exist? If that's the way he thinks then I feel he needs to look at himself a little more before accusing all government officials of being Tyrants.
@@lavenderisdedagain4554 alright first of all techno hiding the truth from tommy until the very end is reasonable for techno besides tommy has had a VERY rocky relation and there isn't that much fighting anymore because there is no government and lore standpoint? please elaborate :)
@@lucianoroberti1734 So, by lore standpoint, I mean for the story to make any sense, the land has to be populated by civilian people who are just not played by any of the CC's. These innocent civilians would have little to do with the plot other tan collateral but they are important nonetheless. These are the mother's and children and the weak who would not be able to defend themselves in Techno's version of a perfect world. Another thing, so the relationship was rocky, so? dose that give techno an excuse to be dishonest and then claim otherwise after? another thing is I'm not painting Techno as some sort of evil villain in this situation, I'm saying I'm tired of everyone pretending that Techno did nothing wrong and is somehow absolved of the consequences. I'm also not painting Tommy as some saint either, he made mistakes and the betrayal was fucked, but it was reasonable. I'm saying the situation is so much more gray then people like to portray it as and I'm sick of pretending it's Black and White. I mean what would you even do in the same situation Tommy was, would really choose the guy who told you to die in the past, is making you feel like you've become a different person you dont like, and destroyed your country, beat you in a pit and told you the only universal language was violence, and almost gave you back to your abuser for no reason, over your country, your best friend who exiled you under tremendous pressure that you've already expressed understanding of, and literally all your other friends? And either way it was a loose loose situation because both ways he becomes a traitor. its betray Techno or L'manburg and I can tell you the fandom would react the same way for both options. There was no right answer.
Ah yes, Hamilton rolplay area, my favorite also, there was a Fundy stream on osmp earlier about making a drug van or sumn and all I could thing was history repeats itself vjxhxjjdj
as a relatively new inniter, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS I've watched so many recaps i always think I understand but then there's a bunch of lore from before I joined the fandom that I completely missed :'D anyway thank you v!! i adore you, great video!!
Wait i had no idea that techno took a canon life. Im pretty sure the canon life was from Eret's betray, the dual and then dream killing him in prison. (All of the deaths were by dream).....yeah I'm sure they've confirmed it 😅
20:31 well if you really think about it the reason dream became the way he is was because of trying to preserve the pease between the server, But then changed more and more as he started to realize he cannot stop tommy from causing chaos, So be exiled him, Then is when he started to change himself. He started manipulation and then realized that tommy could give him leverage over everyone, That was his Evil Ark, but even in Prison, dream still thinks that he was in the right, and tommy has always thought that dream was the evil and he was the good. Most character in the dream smp lore sure has some radical views on how to “Fix” things.
It’s 12am and I’ve got school tomorrow but screw it you’ve posted and this is more important. Heh good thing I have insomnia and won’t sleep anyways am I right? Yay for optimism! But seriously great job on this vid! I can’t even imagine the time u spend on these things.
if only she knew that a few days later after uploading this ghostbur will enter the prison but will never leave instead Wilbur will return forever leaving ghostbur and everything he stood for behind
Dream smp lore before Wilbur: Tommy: I’m just going to troll dream and I need my disc back Dream smp: after Wilbur: Tommy: I was revived once and something something ghostbur
My head canon is that Tommy's chaos drove Dream insane. Dream started as a peace keeper, and became an agent of chaos with the intent of absolute control.
I think your on to something but I don't think he was drove him insane more like gave him epiphany. When dream took the disc and saw how much Tommy was fighting for them he realized how much they meant to him and notice that if Tommy loves this so much then everyone else has to have something the same value. Dream realizes that instead of negotiating and telling people what to do and what not to do he can rather manipulate then with the things they love to get them to do what he wants. You can call dream a peace keeper but what you call peace is different in every mind and dream wanted his way to be the only way. Dream didn't need that apology yet he fought and twisted the situation. Apologizes aren't wrong but how can you get a apology from someone who believes differently. This is why dream believes Tommy's the key since Tommy was the one that awoke this idea in him and Tommy is also the one who encourages people to fight for that they love that's like Tommy's major thing. I do think insanity may have got to dream more recently but I think what got to dream was his lust of power and it was always there since the start if you start to look more closely. His drive to get what he wants just like Tommy but Tommy is more for a pride reason then dream is more for a control reason.
I just want to say thank you, your videos have helped me alot with understanding the things happening in the dream smp, from the "So you want to start watching the DreamSMP" to this video, again, thannk you so much!
Thank you! I joined the fandom so late and have been struggling understanding the past lore. This helped a lot and was very clear. So thanks for making this :D
I find lore rlly hard to keep up with because I'm very busy with school and overall it can get a bit complicated when there is a lot going on at once, story wise. Thank you for making this video and putting in time to make it as simple to follow as possible. means a lot!
You forgot to mention he got framed for the explosion of the community house, but still managed to bring everyone together to try and go against dream.
YES Finally! thank you! :) 9:32 I personally love how the wanted poster's show the character's personality's, techno being preactically done with it, wilbur being (practically) a president, and dream being a sociopath! 25:24 *someone finally talks about his mental health* :.)
@@azizuladnan2957 absolutely, it is a critical story beat. Honestly I was surprised it wasn’t mentioned. But I guess the video was only focused on how events effected Tommy. The real interesting contrast between Niki and Jack is so interesting, as their entire story arcs are, and I loved to see that moment where jack was truly the last one to hold on to the grudge.
Ok but, imagine if tommy areyd with techno? What would have happaned back then? 1 Edit: And also, what Will happend? Like, some people are theorising that tommy stolle the nukes and want to go on a suacide mission bc he has been speaking about death in a different way?? Idk.. 2 Edit: i only now realise that tommys lore reminds me a lot of Steven universe ;¬;
12:45 So all of this is correct but I m 99.9% sure that techno never took a cannon live from Tommy cuz he would be dead: Dream has taken every single canonical live from Tommy. The bunker The duel for L‘Manburg And The Prison
Honestly I love this so much I started watching around the election so I learned about the past events but it's always been very confusing not really knowing very much about everything although I'm planning on rewatching the whole dream SMP this is going to help a lot
When you think about the line “you wanna be a hero Tommy? THEN DIE LIKE ONE!!” But that line is more poetic than people think, Wilbur, he died by blowing up his own nation after realizing there could never be peace, and then schlatt, he was cornered after running away from the fight and then has the only heart attack on the entire server, but Tommy...he died from dream literally beating him to death with a potato, he didnt die like a hero, he died like something worse than a side character...
something about these videos really gets to me. I usually am not usually easily disturbed or scared, but the simplest things in these videos gets to me, and I love it.
i knew about the Dsmp a few months ago and i was confused about tommy's lore , and i was also lazy to watch stuff to understand it ,, so glad i found this video explaining everything lol-
As soon as I saw this video on my recommended I knew I wasnt going to be able to stop myself from watching it and here I am. I have a lot of homework but here i am. No complaints
The first time i 'met' tommy was when they, wilbur,tubbo and tommy were singing hamilton songs on a scene. I'm not even joking my first thought about tommy was "who is this kid he's so annoying?!" , don't forget that i started watching him and now he's one of my favourite streamers...
in the afterlife, time is canonically different so wilbur has been dead for several months in real time, but it’s been 13 years for him in the afterlife, when tommy was revived, he was dead for a few days in real time but he said that it was about 3 months for him when he was dead
Why was the first thought “they sound kinda like drista” my first thought I- Anyways- Great video! I appreciate it. I was caught up with the lore- but this definitely made some things clearer
The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny is fucking AMAZING! The music is above average but the HUMOR! Edit:No, the most important thing is what antics Mexican Dream will get up to! Will he be locked in prison since he’s technically Dream? Who knows!?
this is really cool
just got noticed by a child, feeling good!
Woah you actually commented
was this just posted
Pog
pog
tommy can’t have a “chill arc” or a “happy arc” for a second 😰
That's character tommy real tommy is a total sweet heart
@@cath_innit4153 I know, I was talking about his character 🧍
@@yurification9925 sorry you had me confused 😅
so c!tommy you mean?
i feel like the closest we’ve gotten and ever will get to something like that was those few weeks when c!Tommy was focused on building his hotel
Wilbur "just came back feeling good."
Y
Yes
HAHAH
@@pritikagurung4521 Why what?
🍴
Ah yes I remember when we all wanted a villain arc and we got a depression arc
I still want villain arc
@@kissatassuk4935 same
@@kissatassuk4935 same :(
If we are lucky he may side with Wilbur
@@ratwithblackdeath4377 Why though?
Especially if our good friend Wimbler is a C!Dream stan.
The fact that there is almost no game footage you used and all of this is made by you is insane
It’s best not to use the term ins*ne as it is ableist but ye I agree :)
@@hithere2477 awesome would work too
@@hithere2477 insane insane insane insane insane insane
@@bobbyjacob7930 bestie ur not funny or edgy 😅
@@hithere2477 insane ain't a bad word ur insane to believe so
This got him so much trauma he got PTSD now..
especially after today’s lore😭
@@mags233 oh no
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@@digital_leo96 Hello Error 👁👁
Crinj
Even though I'm caught up with everything this is still so helpful
same haha
same lmao
Same
I know right!
Same
Schlatt actually died to a stroke. Tubbo and Tommy just thought it was a heart attack, but smelling toast is actually a common sign that you're about to suffer a stroke
anyone smell toast- *OOF*
wait what's that smell-
*Guess I'll die*
I smell toast rn,
am I going to die?? /j
nope mom making me toast ✌️
Wilbur just wrote "schlatt has a heart attack and fucking die" in the script.
And schlatt be like: what did Wilbur write for me? I have a heart attack and fucking die,oh I smells toast.
He shouldn't said I smells toast if the script just worte he have a heart attack.
Poor tommy has faced everything at start he was dependent on wilbur now he is all alone taking decision himself (and we all know he will mess things)
Lol its a game
@@itstrix2096 I am talking about the character u don't see a role play where u symphatise with someone andsay "lol it's scripted"
Mess things?
@@hashhbrownn560 yep like how he messed up his plan to kill drean
stfu stan
Someone else came up with this theory and now I’m scared af
Spoilers for Tommy’s stream: also tw: death, and suicide (it’s just a theory tho) So ummm did anyone else feel like Tommy was talking almost as though he was going to die? And that got me thinking. what if it was Tommy who stole the nuke? And he is planning a suicide mission to kill Dream, where he uses the tnt canon to open a hole to get in and then when he reaches Dream he detonates the nuke which would kill both of them? He also was talking about doing it for the greater good, so what if what Wilbur said to him in the afterlife about how they “made the server worse” got to him and he thinks it would better for everyone if he died again but this time taking Dream with him?
Sorry 😞 didn't happen
I miss ghostbur.
I need this
....sadly...
I love this theory OMG SDHBHSBHSDB I HOPE IT HAPPENSSS *THIS IS LORE MANNN*
6:34
"What sword? There is no sword"
17:03
"What tommy? There is no tommy"
@Amit Yurany Lucero Pablo wingdings
@Amit Yurany Lucero Pablo wait no, that's possibly wrong
@Amit Yurany Lucero Pablo lol I can read enderman
i did get something wrong in this video: techno didn’t take a canon life from tommy - all 3 of them were taken by dream (final control room, duel, and prison). thank you to the comments that clarified this to me! these videos are a one person job, so i’m bound to make a few mistakes here and there, but i will be sure to proofread my scripts a few more times next time. i hope the rest of the video is still helpful to you! 💜
edit: yes, i know that the disc is far, not cat. i just needed a pic of tommy holding some discs and that was the only one i could find heh. contrary to popular belief, i also am not drista.
@@robloxlover4208 woah, woah, what?
@@robloxlover4208 woah woah, why would you say that to them? It was an honest mistake-
@@robloxlover4208 dude, your 8 that’s a no no word
Yeah I was confused I thought it was the duel that killed him
That’s amazing writing. All of Tommy’s lost canon lives were from Dream, and all of Dream’s lost canon lives are from Tommy.
12:52 a slight error that life isn't canon all Tommy's life is taken by dream one in final control room other in the duel amd last one in prison
I think it counts just not as one of his 3 main lives.
I think the non canon deaths do count as deaths,they are just not bothered by them that much.
I like to think that the server itself decides what is a canon death or not.And that when a canon death is coming or when there is actual danger,the characters feel it.I think all deaths are canon,just in a different way.I like to think that the "non canon" deaths do hurt but so much less than the canon ones.Since i don't wanna break the fourth wall,i can't mention writers.So instead i say it's the server itself deciding what is a more important death.I'm bad at explaining things but i hope some people understand what i'm trying to say.
@@Aidselin just look at wiki all 3 is taken by dream this was death just in collateral damage
@@ranjanasharan4051 I'm talking about my theory here.I know about the wiki a read shit on it yesterday.
Tommy has 1 canon life left, Dream revived Tommy in the prision.
@@Aidselin stop using .'s and ''s when you're trash at using them please...
SOMEONE JUST GIVE TOMMY SOME PEACE PLEASE-
Yeah no I see why dream is angry at him if Tommy wasn't so prideful he'd never went through such things it's all his fault
@@aaronxlycan2880 he is a child that's what children do not listen and break rules
I don't think adults are meant to manipulate children and threaten to kill them or just kill then yk ( I'm talking about character dream )
Hey , he got axe of PEACE , so he has some peace
@@ghozty3866 isn't his character like in his 20s?
@@mosquiche9359 no his character isn't Wilbur just thought 13 years has passed in the normal world too he got confused I think his character is still a miner
7:18 "following this, there was a period of peace, but it didn't last long." The entire SMP in a nutshell
Tommy is my favorite character and now everytime I see someone say some dumb stuff about my boi I'm linking them this vid
fax
Tommyinnit apologist? :')
@@flos-garden and?
@@Itz_Taya. - Uhhh- nevermind- (this is the part where I pretend this conversation never happened-)
"Tommy is incredibly loyal to his friends"
_TechnoBlade has joined the server_
Techno did not earn a position as tommys friend, cuz he's an asshole
@@OhSeeBarber Ah yes....
Tommy and his friends used Techno in the pogtopia vs manburg war by replacing Wilburs role as president to Tubbo. Techno is an anarchist so.... He didnt like it.
Tommy onced again used Techno for hiding him from Dream after Tommy escaped exile. Techno said he wanted to destroy lmanberg with Tommy but Tommy didnt agree and decided to fight along side lmanberg. Wich also means Tommy betrayed Techno *again.*
And also, Tommy never thought Techno as a friend, and Techno knew all along. So your commemt wasnt an insult but a fact except for the end. If you meant in character, thats pog. (Sorry for bad grammar)
@@OhSeeBarber i mean, to be fair so is tommy, but thats kinda his thing.
Very loyal 😒
I like how wilber got revived 2 days later
it isn't like 2 days it was only just 5 months or something
I THOUGHT NOVEMBER WAS 5 MONTHS AGO WHY IS TIME GOING SO FAST-
Wilbur*
@@zaddybytes494 i think they meant real life days after this video came out
Just a little clarification, from my understanding, Tommy's original deal with Techno was that Tommy would only help Techno get his armor and tools back from L'manburg, and that he'd only participate in minor acts of terrorism, in return, Techno would help get the discs back. It wasn't until just before the community house incident that Techno revealed that the only goal the whole time was to destroy L'manburg completely. Tommy, sort of agreed? but was very on the fence about it when the Community House thing happened and Tommy realized he wasn't being true to himself or his friends while he was with Techno. This is what lead to the betrayal I believe.
What I think is most important about this fact, is that Techno is NOT absolved of blame in the situation. Techno claims he was clear in his intentions, but he wasn't. He was only really "clear" at the very very end, and left Tommy with no other choices, and refused compromise. While Techno has every right to be angry for being treated like a weapon, Techno dose have to realize that he is not the only victim of betrayal here. The problem with Techno's character is very much his mentality on "His way or the High way." Its anarchy or death with him and he never once dose he think about the consequences of Anarchy on anyone except him and maybe Phil. Sure he and Phil would thrive in an anarchist world, because they have the power and skill to do so, but what about everyone else? What about the people who cant defend themselves, or those who don't have the resources to fight? Are they just too weak to have the right to exist? If that's the way he thinks then I feel he needs to look at himself a little more before accusing all government officials of being Tyrants.
to weak to exist??? pretty much everyone has netherite armor and tools XD
@@lucianoroberti1734 Lore standpoint man, and not everyone dose?
@@lavenderisdedagain4554 alright first of all techno hiding the truth from tommy until the very end is reasonable for techno besides tommy has had a VERY rocky relation and there isn't that much fighting anymore because there is no government
and lore standpoint? please elaborate :)
@@lucianoroberti1734 So, by lore standpoint, I mean for the story to make any sense, the land has to be populated by civilian people who are just not played by any of the CC's. These innocent civilians would have little to do with the plot other tan collateral but they are important nonetheless. These are the mother's and children and the weak who would not be able to defend themselves in Techno's version of a perfect world. Another thing, so the relationship was rocky, so? dose that give techno an excuse to be dishonest and then claim otherwise after? another thing is I'm not painting Techno as some sort of evil villain in this situation, I'm saying I'm tired of everyone pretending that Techno did nothing wrong and is somehow absolved of the consequences. I'm also not painting Tommy as some saint either, he made mistakes and the betrayal was fucked, but it was reasonable. I'm saying the situation is so much more gray then people like to portray it as and I'm sick of pretending it's Black and White. I mean what would you even do in the same situation Tommy was, would really choose the guy who told you to die in the past, is making you feel like you've become a different person you dont like, and destroyed your country, beat you in a pit and told you the only universal language was violence, and almost gave you back to your abuser for no reason, over your country, your best friend who exiled you under tremendous pressure that you've already expressed understanding of, and literally all your other friends? And either way it was a loose loose situation because both ways he becomes a traitor. its betray Techno or L'manburg and I can tell you the fandom would react the same way for both options. There was no right answer.
@@lucianoroberti1734 Another thing, hiding the truth was reasonable HOW? how is that reasonable?
when your realize that the dream SMP will become nostalgic
Dumbass the your is stupid and english isnt even main language your grammar is like me years ago
@@DecisionsAreQuestionable is you are stupid?
@@DecisionsAreQuestionable geez calm down it was probably just a typo
@@DecisionsAreQuestionable ah yes, your grammar confused my brain more then the actual comment. *really*
Ah yes, Hamilton rolplay area, my favorite
also, there was a Fundy stream on osmp earlier about making a drug van or sumn and all I could thing was history repeats itself vjxhxjjdj
as a relatively new inniter, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS I've watched so many recaps i always think I understand but then there's a bunch of lore from before I joined the fandom that I completely missed :'D anyway thank you v!! i adore you, great video!!
AYUP welcome new inniter 😎
Dang that Heir Of Grief Song Is Perfect For him in the beginning
Bestie, the lore today really got me
me too 😭 video this weekend!
@@vvbutnotv POG
Wait i had no idea that techno took a canon life. Im pretty sure the canon life was from Eret's betray, the dual and then dream killing him in prison. (All of the deaths were by dream).....yeah I'm sure they've confirmed it 😅
Yea
my bad! you’re correct, i didn’t realize that the techno one wasn’t canon
@@vvbutnotv WHY DO U SOUND LIKE DRISTA
@@vvbutnotv are you drista?
@@bucketmouthdonkey8001 no that isnt Drista, but he/she does sound similar.
20:31 well if you really think about it the reason dream became the way he is was because of trying to preserve the pease between the server, But then changed more and more as he started to realize he cannot stop tommy from causing chaos, So be exiled him, Then is when he started to change himself. He started manipulation and then realized that tommy could give him leverage over everyone, That was his Evil Ark, but even in Prison, dream still thinks that he was in the right, and tommy has always thought that dream was the evil and he was the good. Most character in the dream smp lore sure has some radical views on how to “Fix” things.
It’s 12am and I’ve got school tomorrow but screw it you’ve posted and this is more important. Heh good thing I have insomnia and won’t sleep anyways am I right? Yay for optimism! But seriously great job on this vid! I can’t even imagine the time u spend on these things.
@Gabs I do online classes and I’ve finished most of my classes early so don’t worry lmao. Stay in school kids
so much time ,,,, i got so sick of editing after this that i did hw all day today 💀 stay in lore kids!
@@vvbutnotv XD
"Oh my god! That was sick" like tommyinnit always say :)
y'all sleeping on the puns in the editing.
"dream frames tommy" **tommy in a picture frame**
I'm literally only here because the two trucks but swing rythm
25:23
“Tommy killing Dream?”
Me: HE was BUT IT WENT WRONG AND WILBUR CAME BACK!!!
AND GHOSTBUR IS GONE!!! I STILL CAN'T GET OVER IT NOOOO😭😭😭
@@joshikanotfound9934 😭😭😭😭😭
@@joshikanotfound9934 its okay your not alone :(
if only she knew that a few days later after uploading this ghostbur will enter the prison but will never leave instead Wilbur will return forever leaving ghostbur and everything he stood for behind
Honestly this was really good summary of everything, I am too lazy to go through tons of streams so this was really nice thank you!
Dream smp lore before Wilbur:
Tommy: I’m just going to troll dream and I need my disc back
Dream smp: after Wilbur:
Tommy: I was revived once and something something ghostbur
My head canon is that Tommy's chaos drove Dream insane. Dream started as a peace keeper, and became an agent of chaos with the intent of absolute control.
I think your on to something but I don't think he was drove him insane more like gave him epiphany. When dream took the disc and saw how much Tommy was fighting for them he realized how much they meant to him and notice that if Tommy loves this so much then everyone else has to have something the same value. Dream realizes that instead of negotiating and telling people what to do and what not to do he can rather manipulate then with the things they love to get them to do what he wants. You can call dream a peace keeper but what you call peace is different in every mind and dream wanted his way to be the only way. Dream didn't need that apology yet he fought and twisted the situation. Apologizes aren't wrong but how can you get a apology from someone who believes differently. This is why dream believes Tommy's the key since Tommy was the one that awoke this idea in him and Tommy is also the one who encourages people to fight for that they love that's like Tommy's major thing. I do think insanity may have got to dream more recently but I think what got to dream was his lust of power and it was always there since the start if you start to look more closely. His drive to get what he wants just like Tommy but Tommy is more for a pride reason then dream is more for a control reason.
I just want to say thank you, your videos have helped me alot with understanding the things happening in the dream smp, from the "So you want to start watching the DreamSMP" to this video, again, thannk you so much!
The image for the "tommy my beloved" UAHDHSKSLSJ
Going back to the beginning now is really helping me understand the motives that Dream has and has had this whole time. Thanks for the hard work!!!♡♡
i dont even need this ive been with him almost all the way, but im still vibing
Tommy lore
Long answer: 0:00 to 26:00
Short answer: DISCS
Here we go, another one
I love how you used a slowed-down version of the Able Sisters for the Exile Arc. That was just excellent in my opinion. *chef's kiss*
Homestuck music. I love it.
*the entirety of Reddit wants to know your location*
@Josh Le Toby Fox worked on some of the music for Homestuck so that is pretty accurate.
Ooh I'm excited
WOAH 26 MINUTES-
this vde is really high quality, better than some larger channels
Yo he is sort of like Steven Universe
They both have a lot of trauma at a young age
Thank you! I joined the fandom so late and have been struggling understanding the past lore. This helped a lot and was very clear. So thanks for making this :D
am i watching a cube world roleplay instead of studying? YEAH, AND?
I find lore rlly hard to keep up with because I'm very busy with school and overall it can get a bit complicated when there is a lot going on at once, story wise. Thank you for making this video and putting in time to make it as simple to follow as possible. means a lot!
You forgot to mention he got framed for the explosion of the community house, but still managed to bring everyone together to try and go against dream.
YES
Finally!
thank you! :)
9:32
I personally love how the wanted poster's show the character's personality's, techno being preactically done with it, wilbur being (practically) a president, and dream being a sociopath!
25:24
*someone finally talks about his mental health*
:.)
That's been a while since i last heard the dark auction music
"Dream punches Tommy to death"
No no no
Dream potatos Tommy to death
Tommy’s lore is so dense that a literal attempt to get him nuked is glossed over and it doesn’t really matter that much.
But it does builds up Niki's and Jack's character more
Where at the end... one says "I started baking again..." and another, still wants revenge...
@@azizuladnan2957 absolutely, it is a critical story beat. Honestly I was surprised it wasn’t mentioned.
But I guess the video was only focused on how events effected Tommy.
The real interesting contrast between Niki and Jack is so interesting, as their entire story arcs are, and I loved to see that moment where jack was truly the last one to hold on to the grudge.
@@technobeagle9598 and Fundy's denial as well!
I feel like all thos newcomers don't even know Fundy is Wilbur's son, Phil's grandson
the fact you can say pogtopia without laughing is stunning
and that's why im a tommyinnit apologist
1:23 ah yes, my favourite disc, "cat"
Ok but, imagine if tommy areyd with techno? What would have happaned back then?
1 Edit: And also, what Will happend? Like, some people are theorising that tommy stolle the nukes and want to go on a suacide mission bc he has been speaking about death in a different way?? Idk..
2 Edit: i only now realise that tommys lore reminds me a lot of Steven universe ;¬;
Tommy’s lore is basically
He’s just some random British guy with a lot British friends
with trauma
@@txtstan2707 exactly
12:45 So all of this is correct but I m 99.9% sure that techno never took a cannon live from Tommy cuz he would be dead: Dream has taken every single canonical live from Tommy.
The bunker
The duel for L‘Manburg
And The Prison
DUDEEEE IVE BEEN STUDYING TOMMYINNITS LORE FOR EVER THANK YOU SO MUCH
Love this stuff thank you, you keep me updated lol
this is so freaking good. your editing inspires me in so many ways and i hope that you keep making content. i throughly enjoyed this.
we still don't even know who his parents really are because it's canonacly not phil
Honestly I love this so much I started watching around the election so I learned about the past events but it's always been very confusing not really knowing very much about everything although I'm planning on rewatching the whole dream SMP this is going to help a lot
you did the swing tempo
Thanks you got me caught up in everything I need to know without having to drag back all the way to the start of the SMP!! Thank you. :)
Please continue to make videos like this please, the streams are hard to keep up with and these recaps help me understand what I missed
Just entering the dsmp. Didn't expect to hear music box heir of grief. This is a wild ride of two fandoms combined
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This went out of date feast just because the stream today
1:25 “Cat and Mellohi” *shows Far and Mellohi*
love the editing💀
It’s fun because I’ve seen all of the wars, and it’s nice to look back
What will he do if Wilbur comes back??
Hummm good question indeed...
😭😭
T_T
just wanna appreciate the thumbnail for a minute, it's really good.
Wilbur✨
When you think about the line “you wanna be a hero Tommy? THEN DIE LIKE ONE!!” But that line is more poetic than people think, Wilbur, he died by blowing up his own nation after realizing there could never be peace, and then schlatt, he was cornered after running away from the fight and then has the only heart attack on the entire server, but Tommy...he died from dream literally beating him to death with a potato, he didnt die like a hero, he died like something worse than a side character...
I saw that high instrumental ;)
playing heir of grief in the beginning fit way too well like actually
You should do a character analysis on Tubbo!!
something about these videos really gets to me. I usually am not usually easily disturbed or scared, but the simplest things in these videos gets to me, and I love it.
technoblade's face when tommy says they can no longer be ally's, lol
When you realize you have been in the fandom for too long that you remember when all this stuff was new
0 dislikes. Like it should be
Found your videos recently and I am obsessed!
yooo this is anazing!! small question, what music was played in the greek mythology section?
respite from the undertale OST !
@@vvbutnotv ty!!
i knew about the Dsmp a few months ago and i was confused about tommy's lore , and i was also lazy to watch stuff to understand it ,, so glad i found this video explaining everything lol-
Wait this Has like 5 k views WTF this feels like something that should go viral, i
This helps so much with explaining the dream smp lore to my friend thank you so much ☺️
People who just came to the video Wilbur came back :)
As soon as I saw this video on my recommended I knew I wasnt going to be able to stop myself from watching it and here I am. I have a lot of homework but here i am. No complaints
Tommy all the time: I'm friends with GeorgeNotFound.
First day on DreamSMP-Dream to Tommy: you are under arrest for the murder of GeorgeNotFound.
The first time i 'met' tommy was when they, wilbur,tubbo and tommy were singing hamilton songs on a scene. I'm not even joking my first thought about tommy was "who is this kid he's so annoying?!" , don't forget that i started watching him and now he's one of my favourite streamers...
This is so good although, I am already caught up! But this is good for new comers:D
this helps a lot because i started watching it around 2021 and i have not seen all the events tysm
Pretty sure Tommy is 29 on the dsmp, he was 16 when the whole thing started, then when Wilbur returns he says he’s been dead for 13 years.
in the afterlife, time is canonically different so wilbur has been dead for several months in real time, but it’s been 13 years for him in the afterlife, when tommy was revived, he was dead for a few days in real time but he said that it was about 3 months for him when he was dead
@@scuskit6126 ok thanks, I was really confused thinking Tommy was a 29 year old man
Why was the first thought “they sound kinda like drista” my first thought I-
Anyways- Great video! I appreciate it. I was caught up with the lore- but this definitely made some things clearer
why did you put the "what sword? there is no sword" in ender/void? also i can read it lol
just a little reference to the ranboo lore video heh
@@vvbutnotv ah, ok!
The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny is fucking AMAZING! The music is above average but the HUMOR!
Edit:No, the most important thing is what antics Mexican Dream will get up to! Will he be locked in prison since he’s technically Dream? Who knows!?
I was just thinking of your chanel
chanel is a good brand!
@@vvbutnotv I'm so tired I didn't even realize that I spelled it wrong! *Channel*
21:33 ahh yes the calming music in the background is amazing while the topic is killing friends, death and destruction