You might have forgotten it, but during the Marcille-at-the-academy flashback episode, we have a little snippet of mini-Fallin proudly saying that her brother imitates dogs very well
It's my favorite joke in the whole manga. You see that flashback and it's like, "oh, well that's not very impressive." And then it turns out to be VERY impressive!
The logic behind Laios' dog impression lies with shapeshifters being common in his homeland by multiplying sheep and eating the real ones, so hunting/shepherd dogs protect the flock by intimidating the shapeshifter away which is what Laios did here. And of course he can do a great dog impression as child Falin mentioned way back in a previous episode.
well, Laios literally explained it himself before he barks so the logic should be obvious, but i forgot about Falin saying he has good dog impression skill.
Laios's imitation of a hunting dog was meant to trigger the fight or flight response in the shapeshifter, thus distracting them from upholding the illusions and revealing their location. It really hinged a lot on animal instincts overriding cunning hunting strategies, and it is such a perfect thing for Laios to attempt :D
well, they missed a lot of good jokes, oh well...just saying...it's just too bad...for me when i watch, i like to pause and sometimes rewind lol...im nuts...hahah
21:12 lot of overseas ppl easily noticed she is cat girl in the her first appearance is so interesting to me, coz most of japanese are didn't noticed. ppl misunderstanding she's costume is ninja but actually its 黒子（kuroko). its traditional backstage person costume and originally shaped like cat ears. so most of jp viewers see her and just thought "oh there's kuroko girl".
@@aronthThat's how most people reading the manga realized it too. Though for people who also read the Ch.0 concept chapter, it was even more clear, since she is part of the main group already.
Well, we did learn in episode 8 that Falin thought Laios did a great impression of a dog. Not only do the jokes come back but in this case they actually helped solve a problem the protagonists were facing. This story is so good.
In one of the extra comics by the author Ryoko Kui, she explains that the elves and dwarves, being two of the most powerful long-lived races, have spheres of cultural influence which influence beauty standards (just like the real world!). Half-foot cultures tend to look to the dwarves for their beauty standards, while tall-man cultures mostly (but not all) tend to look to the elves. It's a nice bit of worldbuilding that Chillchuk thinks of Senshi as very handsome!
Since i didn't see anyone actually saying the whole thing and i'm bored, the author said which shapeshifter corresponded to each one of them so: For Laios: The giant one comes from Marcille, since she was told that Laios looked a lot like Falin, when she actually met him found him way more masculine The feminine/falin look-like is from Senshi. Dwarvs think that Tall-Men are very feminine in comparation to them The crazy one is from Chilchuk, he knows him pretty well but finds his monster admiration weird For Marcille: The mewing one is Senshi's. Dwarvs and Elf don't get along well and Marcille is the only one he has met so his mind is very influenced by the thing he heard of them The one with the extra long hair and bad magic is from Chilchuk. He likes long blonde hair and has zero interest in magic The one with her hair down and serious look is Laios's. How she looked when she performed black magic left a big impression on him For Chilchuck: The cute one is from Marcille, she knows he's an adult but it is still weird for her The very cute one with bad gear is from Senshi, he knows next to nothing about Half-foots and thinks he's a kid The one with a scarf is from Laios, overall a very accurate Chilchuck but he does not wear a scarf For Senshi: The one with a perfect helmet is Laios's, another very accurate depiction but he didn't notice that his helm was kinda broken The beautifull one is from Chilchuck. Half-Foots view Dwarvs as very good looking The other one with wrong cooking equipment is Marcille's, and he actually is shorter and stronger since that's what surprised her more about him
Btw through a volume extra we see which doppleganger was made by who, and the mew-maxing Marcille was Senshi’s. I love how that implies that throughout the entire journey, both serious and funny, Marcille has always looked like that to Senshi.
I REALLY don't understand why they couldn't implement that into the episode, it genuinely made me feel closer to the characters and we could see how they think of each other
One small thing I liked is that even though Laios's memories are pretty vague on the outfits for Chil/Senshi, the faces are spot on. That he's more accurate when it comes to Marcille makes sense too. They met Senshi recently, and Chilchuck keeps professional distance, but Marcille is his sister's best friend.
Some funfacts that you won't know unless you read the extra stuff the author did: handsome Senshi is Chilchuck's impression because dwarves are popular among halflings. Creepy Marcille is Senshi's because his race is scared of elves, stoic Marcille is Laios' memory from her resurrecting Falin because he's really impressed by her determination. Cute Chil is Senshi's because Senshi still thinks of him as a child. I love the show, but reading the manga really gives you the right amount of effort and thought has been put in by the author, she really cares for everything in the story, every single detail about those characters.
It’s a shame you guys forgot falin’s line in the marcille backstory episode, where she says that he’s good at imitating dogs. That was setup for this joke 😂
There's been at least one dog in every flashback to Laios' childhood, and in another flashback Falin told Marcille that Laios could do an amazing dog impression. It was VERY set-up.
I haven’t read the manga but I did see the page that explained each fake and who’s thoughts they were based on. The last three were Chilchuck’s Senshi (apparently dwarves are often considered very masculine and handsome by half foots), Marcille’s Chilchuck (being an elf she sees him as a plucky youth) and Laios’s Marcille (her recent actions when trying to save Falin left the largest impact on him)
Fun detail in this episode: Marcille and Senshi are wearing the frogskin shoes because normally they'd be wearing open shoes/sandals which aren't exactly useful in snow. 😊
Fun fact: in the other language translations, they don't call Senshi "cool", they call him "handsome", so both Laios and Chilchuck think Senshi is handsome lmao Love your reaction and analysis as always!! The perfect Laios dog impression is just my autistic ass imitating animals too haha
the joke is that canonically senshi is the most handsome and good looking of the cast (it comes up a fair bit in fact), so calling him 'cool' loses the joke XP
I love how you can tell that the version of Marcille with her hair down is from Laios memory, do to her book being almost just as detailed as the real one.
also, about why the dragon was moving: we already know why. It wasn't due to animal shit, it was beign controlled by the lunatic mage to 'find delgal'. THe lunatic mage is making falin do it because he thinks she's JUST ACTUALLY THE RED DRAGON and he's so insane now he doesn't think "why is the red drgaon a young woman who can talk now". THis is also why it was moving aroudn mroe than usual and in turn why falin got digested earlier than she was suppsoed to.
the dog thing with laios was in fact setup btw. back when we got the marcille flashback to magic school, falin praised laios for having a really good impression of a dog
Handsome Senshi is Chilchuk’s imagination~ Half foots think dwarves are very handsome and manly! Also Laios did with this Shapshifter what he did with the Cockatrice- INTIMIDATION CHECK GOOOOOO!!
For why Laios did the dog impression, I think he deduced the shapeshifter was a beast capable of illusions. He figured that it probably has a keen sense of smell and hearing and heavy fur due to the cold blizzard weather of the dungeon floor. And as mentioned by some in the comments, the barking triggered a response from the shapeshifter.
I get forgetting Laios' connections with dogs, a lot of the stuff that people remember it by is the extra volume content (like the talk about how they named the dogs), which just isnt getting animated. Its only been brought up... Twice? Three times? In a series like this ya sometimes forget details like that
Laios does one thing better than anyone. Monster lore. He knew what he was facing and how to deal with it. Have you noticed that the last fake Marcille, was Marcille, except no longer careless. It is realy nice to find out later who actually sees her as someone incredible.
The cool thing about Laios' monologue about dogs is that this fight was very much in line with canine hunting behaviours. Wolves and such stalk their prey to get as close as possible, stand by and intimidate it when spotted and attack when it starts to run and exposes weak points. Hence the best strategy being to stand your ground and outintimidate it, and the line "the first one to flinch loses". And knowing a lot about dogs, wolves and foxes makes sense for someone who grew up in a northern village with a lot of livestock
20:20 It was set up in episode 8 i think in a flashback where falin was talking about laios with marcile about how he is good at imitating a Dog ,probably Carlson spoke over the scene and neither of u guys caught it.
worth mentioning that in both the original manga and the dub, and the other sub, that the party all calls senshi "handsome" and "good-looking" instead of just cool
You correctly identified the Kitsune so I thought you would realize. A kitsune, despite its ability to trick people with leaves-morphing, is a nine-tailed fox; and foxes are always hunted by hunter dogs and innately feel threatened by hunting dog barks. That's why Laios was ensuring he was imitating not just any dog but hounds.
i am absolutely loving this anime, and to think this was just a random watch for me to pass time at the beggining, all the genres i like into one series anime, fantasy, action, rpg and cooking if you call that a genre, lol.
heres a cool list of each perception confirmed in an extras chapter (i posted this comment on another channel btw) (also id prob recommend finding the page online searching "dungeon meshi shapeshifter chart") i really like how the audience isnt told this straight up though LAIOS serious marcille - her dark magic left a huge impression on him no holes helmet senshi - couldnt remember details of helmet muffler chilchuck - couldnt remember details of scarf (interestingly the manga translators got this off) MARCILLE big laios - met after falin, sees him as her juxtaposition proportional senshi - senshis build was exaggerated in her head, shorter/wider young chilchuck - sees as child, not as much as senshi though SENSHI cute laios - dwarves see tallmen as feminine mewing marcille - grew up hearing bad things/stereotypes about elves baby chilchuck - sees him as growing kid CHILCHUCK derpy laios - sees him as dangerous/careless wrong hairstyle marcille - pretty close representation, he likes blonde hair though handsome senshi - halflings look up to a dwarfs masculine appearance
@@dddoodles i think it was the manga translators who translated that part wrong, i forgot where but later on (probably another extra) the same translation team for the manga calls it a scarf after saying (Manga spoilers just in case) that it was given to him by one of his daughters, they translated it as scarf there
for the dimming thing, maybe one the reason they undimmed it in the blueray is to make more people to buy the blueray?? it's possible if they're really trying to chase that profit. i remember JJK S2 Blueray sold a lot of copies, (10k+ iirc) maybe the undimming play some part on that numbers.
we actualy learn in a manga tidbit about which shapeshifters are based on which character's perception of the others: mogging Marcille is from the horror stories Senshi heard about elves as a child, bootleg book Marcille is because Chilchuck thinks her magic school approach to everything is bogus (but he remembered her hair pretty well because he likes blonde women), and the cold stoic Marcille is from how Laios saw her while she was performing the necromancy ritual to resurrect Falin scarf Chilchuck was already said to be from Laios not remembering details about people's appearances, scruffy hair Chil is because Marcille thinks of him as a kid despite knowing he's a grown ass man, chubby-cheeked Chil is from Senshi because he also sees Chilchuck as a child but he looks even younger to Senshi cause he's a dwarf intact helmet Senshi is Laios' obviously, the extra short dopey one is from Marcille's first meeting Senshi causing her to view him as a goofy dwarf cook, and handsome mewing Senshi is Chil's because half-foot men view dwarf men as really attractive and masculine goofy Laios is because Chilchuck sees him as an idiot obsessed with eating monsters, airbrushed shoujo Laios is from Senshi because dwarves think of tall-man men as feminine, and the really tall Laios with a 5 o'clock shadow is Marcille's because when she first learned Falin had a brother she thought he'd look the same as her (especially because elves aren't very sexually dimorphic in this universe) and when she met him she was startled by how tall and rectangular and not at all Falin-shaped he was
Fun fact: In supplementary materials, we find out how each of the party member’s memories affected the doppelgangers. Laios Marcile: His memory of her hair is vague but he vividly remembers her determined expression when resurrecting Falin. Chilchuck: Pretty accurate, although he didn’t realize he wasn't wearing a scarf Senshi: Also accurate, other than a blemish in the helmet. Marcille Laios: She heard that he looked just like Falin, but I guess he was too masculine for her gay ass, and the first impression stuck. Chilchuck: He is infantilized because she can’t comprehend that he’s an adult Senshi: His stature and height are slightly exaggerated because those traits left the biggest impression on her. Chilchuck Laios: His weirdness is VERY exaggerated because Chilchuck is weirded out by Laios. Shocker. Marcille: Not much to say other than the hair is sorta accurate because he likes blond hair but doesn’t remember the specific hairstyle Senshi: Is more handsome because the masculinity of dwarves is a trait idolized by a lot of Halfoots. Senshi: Laios: Twink Laios because tall men are viewed as more feminine in comparison to dwarves. Marcille: Botox Marcille because he had been told at a young age that elves were bad so he has subconscious racism against them. Chilchuck: He’s infantilized by Senshi similar to Marcille but worse. He legitimately thinks Chilchuck is only a child.
4:35 this is mainly to the manga only ppl that finished the manga. 5 4 3 2 ! from the adventurers bible vol.1 on flamela, death of her brother when the queen took him in since they share the same skin color due to royal blood does the theory of the queen is possibly some form of vampire lord/lich to live past 500 years true? if forgot or never read it: in her section from the book it goes into her origins. she had a twin brother which they both have the dark as night skin, red eyes and silver hair that only royal blood elves have like the queen. the queen got word of this and took the twin brother as her own child despite flamela and the brother parents are still alive. later the brother ended up dead with no reveal why. flamela demanded answers but was pushed away or they ignore her demands. in response flamela joined the guard and put herself in danger which the other guards make sure she lives by order of the queen due to flamela being possibly royal blood. to back this up on poissble vampire lord/lich: final volume of the book after laios became king the elves sent a message on how to stop this but the queen said allowed it, they talked about the feast and the queen mentions something she tasted a long time ago which made the others confused on that casual response of hers. fans theorize either those two i metnion or she is a dungeon master like thistle alive all this time and controlling a hidden dungeon somewhere.
1:10 2 versions kinda does exist mainly in the blu rays. note: specifically those bs 2-3 eps collector blu ray discs japan does. if dont know basically to up merch sales before making a full season set they make limited ep volumes. only containing 2-3 eps usually, if usd charge like 50+ per one and it contains like behind scenes, art cards and such inside it that the full release doesnt have at all. if go sounds crazy oh it is, but warning there is actual hardcore collectors of these will verbally attack you and anyone else that questions this hobby. they are also the ones that despises anime streaming since that will actually affect those they collect.
1:45 again all merch sales. to be honest anime, hell including western animations dont make their money off views, ad revenue and sub counts. its the merchandise that dictates popularity and revenue of the series. only in japan this cranked to x10 on survival of a anime/manga. hence why japan got SO MUCH anime stuff advertising products even for general stuff for ppl that dont even watch anime over there. its like that with how costly/competetive anime industry is over in japan.
OK, let's see if I get this right... 🕵 Tall Laios: by Chilchuk - he sees him like that from below Cute Laios: by Senshi - because he's always eager to eat his food Derpy Laios: by Marcille - because he makes her eat gross stuff Wrong Helmet Senshi: by Laios - didn't pay attention Handsome Senshi: by Chilchuk - by elimination, as it wasn't Marcille Clean Pan Senshi: by Marcille - by elimination, and she'd probably be the most hygienic in that regard Wrong Scarf Chilchuk: by Laios - didn't pay attention Cute Chilchuk: by Marcille - she clearly sees him like that Lame Tools Chilchuk: by Senshi - he used his tools as silverware, so he doesn't care Obvious Fake Marcille: by Senshi - only who didn't react as if it was obvious Logical Marcille: by Chilchuk - since he's the most logical one, he'd think she would act like that Lame Book / Intuitive Marcille: by Laios - by elimination, and Laios thinks more intuitively
@@akapilka Ah, I see. I guess Derpy Laios from Chilchuk does make much more sense. Then I guess Marcille sees Laios as some kind of tall Chad? And my guess of someone thinking the other would think like them is indeed flawed, because you could make the same argument saying it's the opposite (you think a certain way, so you'd think the other would think differently).
@@geekleyLate, but this is why Marcille's Laios looks like that. Before she met him, she heard that he looked exactly like Falin. Adding to that, she went to an all girls' school. When she first saw him, she though he looked way too masculine and the impression stuck.
Its not that they have a bad perceptiom of Laios, but their prejudices formed different Laioses while Laios doesnt think that much so his doppelgangers are just basically the same but wrong basic gear
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You might have forgotten it, but during the Marcille-at-the-academy flashback episode, we have a little snippet of mini-Fallin proudly saying that her brother imitates dogs very well
It's my favorite joke in the whole manga. You see that flashback and it's like, "oh, well that's not very impressive." And then it turns out to be VERY impressive!
@@GorfinhofinI was cracking up at this like gd
The way little Falin said it was also so cute, it stuck to my mind.
laios think marcill is cool , that why her fake one is so cool and beauty.
maybe laios love her.
@@baaaastoos Didn't know "gay" preferences are monsters. No wonder in western games they're all ug-
The logic behind Laios' dog impression lies with shapeshifters being common in his homeland by multiplying sheep and eating the real ones, so hunting/shepherd dogs protect the flock by intimidating the shapeshifter away which is what Laios did here. And of course he can do a great dog impression as child Falin mentioned way back in a previous episode.
well, Laios literally explained it himself before he barks so the logic should be obvious, but i forgot about Falin saying he has good dog impression skill.
also, when they were putting together Falin's skeleton he said something about knowing canine's better than humans
Laios's imitation of a hunting dog was meant to trigger the fight or flight response in the shapeshifter, thus distracting them from upholding the illusions and revealing their location. It really hinged a lot on animal instincts overriding cunning hunting strategies, and it is such a perfect thing for Laios to attempt :D
"I really admire my brother!"
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"He makes a really good dog impression" - Falin episode 8
well, they missed a lot of good jokes, oh well...just saying...it's just too bad...for me when i watch, i like to pause and sometimes rewind lol...im nuts...hahah
21:12 lot of overseas ppl easily noticed she is cat girl in the her first appearance is so interesting to me, coz most of japanese are didn't noticed.
ppl misunderstanding she's costume is ninja but actually its 黒子（kuroko). its traditional backstage person costume and originally shaped like cat ears. so most of jp viewers see her and just thought "oh there's kuroko girl".
The only reason I noticed this was bc of acnh. Wow thousands of hours finally were proven to be worth my while
I noticed it was a cat girl when Kuro was growling at her when they met each other for the first time
@@aronthThat's how most people reading the manga realized it too. Though for people who also read the Ch.0 concept chapter, it was even more clear, since she is part of the main group already.
I mean I saw her claws and somewhat cat like appearance so I assume she’s a cat girl
That's interesting.
Well, we did learn in episode 8 that Falin thought Laios did a great impression of a dog. Not only do the jokes come back but in this case they actually helped solve a problem the protagonists were facing. This story is so good.
In one of the extra comics by the author Ryoko Kui, she explains that the elves and dwarves, being two of the most powerful long-lived races, have spheres of cultural influence which influence beauty standards (just like the real world!). Half-foot cultures tend to look to the dwarves for their beauty standards, while tall-man cultures mostly (but not all) tend to look to the elves. It's a nice bit of worldbuilding that Chillchuk thinks of Senshi as very handsome!
Poor gnomes though, no one cares about how they look
@@rmbadoo4831 I thought Gnomes lean towards the dwarf beauty standards side of things
Does this mean that the cursed Marcille was also Chilchuck's imagination?
@@nohbdy1122 No, that was Senshi. His elf prejudice is still apparent, though he's working on it.
Since i didn't see anyone actually saying the whole thing and i'm bored, the author said which shapeshifter corresponded to each one of them so:
For Laios:
The giant one comes from Marcille, since she was told that Laios looked a lot like Falin, when she actually met him found him way more masculine
The feminine/falin look-like is from Senshi. Dwarvs think that Tall-Men are very feminine in comparation to them
The crazy one is from Chilchuk, he knows him pretty well but finds his monster admiration weird
For Marcille:
The mewing one is Senshi's. Dwarvs and Elf don't get along well and Marcille is the only one he has met so his mind is very influenced by the thing he heard of them
The one with the extra long hair and bad magic is from Chilchuk. He likes long blonde hair and has zero interest in magic
The one with her hair down and serious look is Laios's. How she looked when she performed black magic left a big impression on him
For Chilchuck:
The cute one is from Marcille, she knows he's an adult but it is still weird for her
The very cute one with bad gear is from Senshi, he knows next to nothing about Half-foots and thinks he's a kid
The one with a scarf is from Laios, overall a very accurate Chilchuck but he does not wear a scarf
For Senshi:
The one with a perfect helmet is Laios's, another very accurate depiction but he didn't notice that his helm was kinda broken
The beautifull one is from Chilchuck. Half-Foots view Dwarvs as very good looking
The other one with wrong cooking equipment is Marcille's, and he actually is shorter and stronger since that's what surprised her more about him
i think you mean how she looked when she cast black magic on falin, not how falin looked when she cast black magic.
@@jayr.9884 oh yes that
i like how because Dwarves are so rough and tough, they view tall-men as rather feminine, hence the sexy, feminine Laios shapeshifter.
Btw through a volume extra we see which doppleganger was made by who, and the mew-maxing Marcille was Senshi’s. I love how that implies that throughout the entire journey, both serious and funny, Marcille has always looked like that to Senshi.
I REALLY don't understand why they couldn't implement that into the episode, it genuinely made me feel closer to the characters and we could see how they think of each other
I recommend the Adventures Bible and Volume Extras for those who want to know more about the world.
Lol... I figured the weird Marcille was definitely Senshi as he doesn't like magic and kind of ignores what she says a lot! 😂🤣😂
One small thing I liked is that even though Laios's memories are pretty vague on the outfits for Chil/Senshi, the faces are spot on. That he's more accurate when it comes to Marcille makes sense too. They met Senshi recently, and Chilchuck keeps professional distance, but Marcille is his sister's best friend.
@@carpiim They don't add anything not directly inside the chapters like omakes or extras
Some funfacts that you won't know unless you read the extra stuff the author did: handsome Senshi is Chilchuck's impression because dwarves are popular among halflings. Creepy Marcille is Senshi's because his race is scared of elves, stoic Marcille is Laios' memory from her resurrecting Falin because he's really impressed by her determination. Cute Chil is Senshi's because Senshi still thinks of him as a child. I love the show, but reading the manga really gives you the right amount of effort and thought has been put in by the author, she really cares for everything in the story, every single detail about those characters.
It’s a shame you guys forgot falin’s line in the marcille backstory episode, where she says that he’s good at imitating dogs.
That was setup for this joke 😂
IKR...lol..i love that reference
The dog thing was just him creating a fear response since dogs are used for hunting
There's been at least one dog in every flashback to Laios' childhood, and in another flashback Falin told Marcille that Laios could do an amazing dog impression.
It was VERY set-up.
"who's talking"
the...the narrator. he's been here. did you forget that this show has a narrator?
i guess i did, but I was more feeling like the scene was building up to revealign a person and i was wrong
I haven’t read the manga but I did see the page that explained each fake and who’s thoughts they were based on. The last three were Chilchuck’s Senshi (apparently dwarves are often considered very masculine and handsome by half foots), Marcille’s Chilchuck (being an elf she sees him as a plucky youth) and Laios’s Marcille (her recent actions when trying to save Falin left the largest impact on him)
During the Marcille Falin flashback, Falin tells Marcille about how Laios' good point is that hes great at imitating dogs.
Fun detail in this episode: Marcille and Senshi are wearing the frogskin shoes because normally they'd be wearing open shoes/sandals which aren't exactly useful in snow. 😊
お兄さんが狐を知ってるみたいで嬉しかったな
狐や狸は日本では人を化かす(人や物に化けたり、人を馬鹿にしたりする)と言われています🦊
原作者の九井先生は、日本人なら誰でも知ってるこの言い伝えと、創作物でよく登場する「シェイプシフター」という怪物の概念をうまく混ぜ合わせています。
こういうところが大好き！
Fun fact: in the other language translations, they don't call Senshi "cool", they call him "handsome", so both Laios and Chilchuck think Senshi is handsome lmao
Love your reaction and analysis as always!! The perfect Laios dog impression is just my autistic ass imitating animals too haha
YEAHH!! i'm great at barking, too!!!
The word can be use for both. That said, I do think "handsome" fits that Senshi way better.
the joke is that canonically senshi is the most handsome and good looking of the cast (it comes up a fair bit in fact), so calling him 'cool' loses the joke XP
Yeah, like wtf Marcille, Senshi has always been good looking.
I love how you can tell that the version of Marcille with her hair down is from Laios memory, do to her book being almost just as detailed as the real one.
Laios did mention that there were shapeshifters at his homeland which means he knows how to deal with them
If you remember, after the flashback with Falin and Marcille in school, we see Falin mention that Laios does a REALLY good dog impression
also, about why the dragon was moving: we already know why. It wasn't due to animal shit, it was beign controlled by the lunatic mage to 'find delgal'. THe lunatic mage is making falin do it because he thinks she's JUST ACTUALLY THE RED DRAGON and he's so insane now he doesn't think "why is the red drgaon a young woman who can talk now". THis is also why it was moving aroudn mroe than usual and in turn why falin got digested earlier than she was suppsoed to.
the dog thing with laios was in fact setup btw. back when we got the marcille flashback to magic school, falin praised laios for having a really good impression of a dog
Handsome Senshi is Chilchuk’s imagination~ Half foots think dwarves are very handsome and manly!
Also Laios did with this Shapshifter what he did with the Cockatrice- INTIMIDATION CHECK GOOOOOO!!
Oh you mean the Basilisk? Primal Laios go brrrrrrrrrrr
For why Laios did the dog impression, I think he deduced the shapeshifter was a beast capable of illusions. He figured that it probably has a keen sense of smell and hearing and heavy fur due to the cold blizzard weather of the dungeon floor. And as mentioned by some in the comments, the barking triggered a response from the shapeshifter.
I get forgetting Laios' connections with dogs, a lot of the stuff that people remember it by is the extra volume content (like the talk about how they named the dogs), which just isnt getting animated. Its only been brought up... Twice? Three times? In a series like this ya sometimes forget details like that
Nobody ever believes Falin when she says nobody is better at imitating a dog than Laios.
The whole laios dog thing was mentioned at the episode where marcille remembers her magic school
Laios does one thing better than anyone. Monster lore. He knew what he was facing and how to deal with it.
Have you noticed that the last fake Marcille, was Marcille, except no longer careless. It is realy nice to find out later who actually sees her as someone incredible.
The cool thing about Laios' monologue about dogs is that this fight was very much in line with canine hunting behaviours. Wolves and such stalk their prey to get as close as possible, stand by and intimidate it when spotted and attack when it starts to run and exposes weak points. Hence the best strategy being to stand your ground and outintimidate it, and the line "the first one to flinch loses". And knowing a lot about dogs, wolves and foxes makes sense for someone who grew up in a northern village with a lot of livestock
20:20 It was set up in episode 8 i think in a flashback where falin was talking about laios with marcile about how he is good at imitating a Dog ,probably Carlson spoke over the scene and neither of u guys caught it.
worth mentioning that in both the original manga and the dub, and the other sub, that the party all calls senshi "handsome" and "good-looking" instead of just cool
You correctly identified the Kitsune so I thought you would realize.
A kitsune, despite its ability to trick people with leaves-morphing, is a nine-tailed fox; and foxes are always hunted by hunter dogs and innately feel threatened by hunting dog barks. That's why Laios was ensuring he was imitating not just any dog but hounds.
In one of the early episodes, we saw a flashback wherein Fallin told Marcile that her brother had a really good dog impression.
OUR GIRLY IS HEEEERE!
On another note, POP QUIZ:
- During Marcille's schooltime story, what was Falin's one notable praise of her older brother?
i am absolutely loving this anime, and to think this was just a random watch for me to pass time at the beggining, all the genres i like into one series anime, fantasy, action, rpg and cooking if you call that a genre, lol.
heres a cool list of each perception confirmed in an extras chapter (i posted this comment on another channel btw)
(also id prob recommend finding the page online searching "dungeon meshi shapeshifter chart")
i really like how the audience isnt told this straight up though
LAIOS
serious marcille - her dark magic left a huge impression on him
no holes helmet senshi - couldnt remember details of helmet
muffler chilchuck - couldnt remember details of scarf (interestingly the manga translators got this off)
MARCILLE
big laios - met after falin, sees him as her juxtaposition
proportional senshi - senshis build was exaggerated in her head, shorter/wider
young chilchuck - sees as child, not as much as senshi though
SENSHI
cute laios - dwarves see tallmen as feminine
mewing marcille - grew up hearing bad things/stereotypes about elves
baby chilchuck - sees him as growing kid
CHILCHUCK
derpy laios - sees him as dangerous/careless
wrong hairstyle marcille - pretty close representation, he likes blonde hair though
handsome senshi - halflings look up to a dwarfs masculine appearance
It's weird, maybe the subtitles are off, but chilchuck does not wear a scarf
@@dddoodles i think it was the manga translators who translated that part wrong, i forgot where but later on (probably another extra) the same translation team for the manga calls it a scarf after saying
(Manga spoilers just in case)
that it was given to him by one of his daughters, they translated it as scarf there
@@dddoodles bleh nvm the english dub calls it a neck wrap and specifically says its not a scarf
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for the dimming thing, maybe one the reason they undimmed it in the blueray is to make more people to buy the blueray?? it's possible if they're really trying to chase that profit. i remember JJK S2 Blueray sold a lot of copies, (10k+ iirc) maybe the undimming play some part on that numbers.
we actualy learn in a manga tidbit about which shapeshifters are based on which character's perception of the others:
mogging Marcille is from the horror stories Senshi heard about elves as a child, bootleg book Marcille is because Chilchuck thinks her magic school approach to everything is bogus (but he remembered her hair pretty well because he likes blonde women), and the cold stoic Marcille is from how Laios saw her while she was performing the necromancy ritual to resurrect Falin
scarf Chilchuck was already said to be from Laios not remembering details about people's appearances, scruffy hair Chil is because Marcille thinks of him as a kid despite knowing he's a grown ass man, chubby-cheeked Chil is from Senshi because he also sees Chilchuck as a child but he looks even younger to Senshi cause he's a dwarf
intact helmet Senshi is Laios' obviously, the extra short dopey one is from Marcille's first meeting Senshi causing her to view him as a goofy dwarf cook, and handsome mewing Senshi is Chil's because half-foot men view dwarf men as really attractive and masculine
goofy Laios is because Chilchuck sees him as an idiot obsessed with eating monsters, airbrushed shoujo Laios is from Senshi because dwarves think of tall-man men as feminine, and the really tall Laios with a 5 o'clock shadow is Marcille's because when she first learned Falin had a brother she thought he'd look the same as her (especially because elves aren't very sexually dimorphic in this universe) and when she met him she was startled by how tall and rectangular and not at all Falin-shaped he was
By in-world standards of the entire party, Senshi is, canonically, the most 'conventionally attractive' of the main party, lol.
Fun fact: In supplementary materials, we find out how each of the party member’s memories affected the doppelgangers.
Laios
Marcile: His memory of her hair is vague but he vividly remembers her determined expression when resurrecting Falin.
Chilchuck: Pretty accurate, although he didn’t realize he wasn't wearing a scarf
Senshi: Also accurate, other than a blemish in the helmet.
Marcille
Laios: She heard that he looked just like Falin, but I guess he was too masculine for her gay ass, and the first impression stuck.
Chilchuck: He is infantilized because she can’t comprehend that he’s an adult
Senshi: His stature and height are slightly exaggerated because those traits left the biggest impression on her.
Chilchuck
Laios: His weirdness is VERY exaggerated because Chilchuck is weirded out by Laios. Shocker.
Marcille: Not much to say other than the hair is sorta accurate because he likes blond hair but doesn’t remember the specific hairstyle
Senshi: Is more handsome because the masculinity of dwarves is a trait idolized by a lot of Halfoots.
Senshi:
Laios: Twink Laios because tall men are viewed as more feminine in comparison to dwarves.
Marcille: Botox Marcille because he had been told at a young age that elves were bad so he has subconscious racism against them.
Chilchuck: He’s infantilized by Senshi similar to Marcille but worse. He legitimately thinks Chilchuck is only a child.
4:35 this is mainly to the manga only ppl that finished the manga.
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from the adventurers bible vol.1 on flamela, death of her brother when the queen took him in since they share the same skin color due to royal blood does the theory of the queen is possibly some form of vampire lord/lich to live past 500 years true?
if forgot or never read it: in her section from the book it goes into her origins. she had a twin brother which they both have the dark as night skin, red eyes and silver hair that only royal blood elves have like the queen. the queen got word of this and took the twin brother as her own child despite flamela and the brother parents are still alive. later the brother ended up dead with no reveal why. flamela demanded answers but was pushed away or they ignore her demands. in response flamela joined the guard and put herself in danger which the other guards make sure she lives by order of the queen due to flamela being possibly royal blood.
to back this up on poissble vampire lord/lich: final volume of the book after laios became king the elves sent a message on how to stop this but the queen said allowed it, they talked about the feast and the queen mentions something she tasted a long time ago which made the others confused on that casual response of hers. fans theorize either those two i metnion or she is a dungeon master like thistle alive all this time and controlling a hidden dungeon somewhere.
1:10 2 versions kinda does exist mainly in the blu rays. note: specifically those bs 2-3 eps collector blu ray discs japan does.
if dont know basically to up merch sales before making a full season set they make limited ep volumes. only containing 2-3 eps usually, if usd charge like 50+ per one and it contains like behind scenes, art cards and such inside it that the full release doesnt have at all. if go sounds crazy oh it is, but warning there is actual hardcore collectors of these will verbally attack you and anyone else that questions this hobby. they are also the ones that despises anime streaming since that will actually affect those they collect.
1:45 again all merch sales. to be honest anime, hell including western animations dont make their money off views, ad revenue and sub counts. its the merchandise that dictates popularity and revenue of the series. only in japan this cranked to x10 on survival of a anime/manga. hence why japan got SO MUCH anime stuff advertising products even for general stuff for ppl that dont even watch anime over there. its like that with how costly/competetive anime industry is over in japan.
HE'S GOT THAT DOG IN HIM!!!!!
I love Marcille just headshot the fox with ded face 😂😂😂
The handsome Senshi joke was so fucking funny
Liaos: Long-haired Marcille, missing minor details Chilchuck and Senshi.
Marcille: Giant Liaos, wrong tools Chilchuck and Senshi.
Chilchuck: Moron Liaos, wrong magic-book marcille, handsome Senshi.
Senshi: FaLiaos, Mogcille, Childchuck.
It's almost there
We are near 100k
7:34 It was, actually xd
Fox with multiple tail, it's a scary monster in east fairytale.
but why didn't the cat lady have any imposters?
Nobody knew she was there, they didn't really have any memories or awareness of her so the shapeshifter had nothing to latch onto
@@failbird105 aaa got it
OK, let's see if I get this right... 🕵
Tall Laios: by Chilchuk - he sees him like that from below
Cute Laios: by Senshi - because he's always eager to eat his food
Derpy Laios: by Marcille - because he makes her eat gross stuff
Wrong Helmet Senshi: by Laios - didn't pay attention
Handsome Senshi: by Chilchuk - by elimination, as it wasn't Marcille
Clean Pan Senshi: by Marcille - by elimination, and she'd probably be the most hygienic in that regard
Wrong Scarf Chilchuk: by Laios - didn't pay attention
Cute Chilchuk: by Marcille - she clearly sees him like that
Lame Tools Chilchuk: by Senshi - he used his tools as silverware, so he doesn't care
Obvious Fake Marcille: by Senshi - only who didn't react as if it was obvious
Logical Marcille: by Chilchuk - since he's the most logical one, he'd think she would act like that
Lame Book / Intuitive Marcille: by Laios - by elimination, and Laios thinks more intuitively
50/50.
Tall Laios was Marcille's, and long hair/stoic Marcille was Laios'.
Actually, Laios Marcille and True Marcille are basically indistinguishable.
@@akapilka Ah, I see. I guess Derpy Laios from Chilchuk does make much more sense. Then I guess Marcille sees Laios as some kind of tall Chad?
And my guess of someone thinking the other would think like them is indeed flawed, because you could make the same argument saying it's the opposite (you think a certain way, so you'd think the other would think differently).
@@geekleyLate, but this is why Marcille's Laios looks like that. Before she met him, she heard that he looked exactly like Falin. Adding to that, she went to an all girls' school. When she first saw him, she though he looked way too masculine and the impression stuck.
Senshi a confirmed hottie.
Some shows have dimming and ghosting because they air during night in japan! Dungeon meshi has none
"who's talking"
OMG…
Its not that they have a bad perceptiom of Laios, but their prejudices formed different Laioses while Laios doesnt think that much so his doppelgangers are just basically the same but wrong basic gear
Handsome Senshi lasted way too long hah
Please react to Akuma No Ko by Ai Higuchi(Special Ver) Aot. This is a humble request
Good ol amogus episode
Laios may be autistic, but he can be surprisingly observant.
That's not a 'despite' that's a 'because'. He doesn't track clothing details as closely, but he remembers behavior incredibly well.
cool than original