Every publisher now wants every consumer to spend eight hours per day playing a game they sold them for $70, and spend thousands more on microtransactions while they do it. The problem is there's only so much time in a day and consumers only have so much money. If every company keeps doing this, they will find that only a handful of games can maintain sustainable dedicated followings like that simply because there will be too many games competing for dominance in a limited pool of consumer man hours. If you're playing Call of Duty all day, you're not playing Battlefield, and if you're playing Fortnite all day, you're not playing Player Unknown's Battlegrounds. But every game wants to be the next big thing, and they're all doomed to take an ever smaller slice of the pie as the market becomes increasingly saturated. And it gets worse because these publishers' shareholders expect constant growth; a growth which they can't possibly maintain forever. Once the growth reaches a plateau, investors will start selling off their shares and these companies will start to _lose_ money, and then they won't be able to keep churning out these games.
Capitalism. The issue is capitalism. That's also why the crunch is a problem. If the studio was a worker coop there wouldn't be crunch and there would be less of a tendency for people to put in nasty exploitative shit, since often people lower on the totem pole dislike doing blatantly unethical shit like that
If you sell your game in China then you basically have infinite customers. So what if they want you to sell your soul and look the other way when they steal your customer's data.
Imagine spending $70 on an intentionally unfinished game, then have to buy their “annual season pass”, which is basically paying for planned patches, AND THEN having to buy DLC stuff for a better gaming experience.
Haha yeah big games are kinda shit imo. I got my first console upgrade when I got halo 3. 3 odst and reach were both incredible too. I then also really started enjoying the Forza series too. Halo 4 killed the chances of me getting an Xbox One and then I built my first PC. Pc gaming is just more flexible. You are less likely to see these half assed $60/70 games and more likely that you'll find a game that you can see grow for a fraction of the price. A few games thst I've picked up early access thst sum up to less than $60 include : $15 Kerbal Space Program, $15 minecraft, $15 beam NG drive, $15 wreakfest. And I think I paid even less for most of those games. Not to mention you also get access to modding so thst just widens the gap. I find in far more interesting to see a game grow properly and I'm a lot more likely to purchase the next game that these developers make as they have built my trust with them.
Buy the games years after they are released when they are already patched and with the expansions included, during steam discount season right after the new year.
Not even one of my favorite games, Ark survival evolved, can get away with that kind of shit. granted, they've had price drops before down to 20 bucks, which is amazing considering how big the game actually is, but honestly, I can't see it with anything. Not even them.
Or just wait a few years till the tech is more affordable and the game is either 20$ or less. I did that with Metro Exodus and still doing it with other games. Luckily AAA devs don't decide where the money in my wallet goes, I do. Besides there are other hobbies one can pick up. Reading, cars, bikes, paintball, airsoft, robotics, etc etc.
They for some reason dont do it. There is less and less sailing as I can see. Grew up with older brother who was sailing and tought me and im the only one amongst my Friends who still does it
The worst part is that the increase in price is only going to line the CEO pockets more instead of going to the developers who actually crunch and make the game.
Maybe, we can get developers to sell their games through means that don't involve going through the middleman in order to work around this? I've read that a theoretical way to support music artists is to pirate the music, then send a check to the artists...
It's about the investors. Basically shareholders only really care about companies making money, so the CEO has to be seen to making as much money as possible to pay out more in dividends every year otherwise the share price falls and the CEO is booted out.
Then the developers get fucking death threats on Twitter because the game released poorly (*cough* Cyberpunk *cough*) Then those same idiots who send those threats go and defend the 70$ price tag like it’s nothing. I definitely play games all of the time but the “general gaming community” is full of fucking idiots.
Inflation? Buddy, the FED and the SEC has made sure Inflation has been trapped in it's pressure cooker. We haven't even seen inflation. Money Printer go Brrr, the "Federal Reserve" gets filled up, and the rich get richer at the cost of our lives. Trust me. The second they let the inflation actually slip is the second the whole world sees America implode under the weight of it's own exponentially compounding debt.
nah, it's intentional. I mean....the visuals of his videos last year was very trippy on it's own way. This year is Trippy audio, last year was trippy visuals.
Yeah exactly. Nobody is going to pirate when a game or service is actually and properly priced, but if you’re too un reasonable you’re bringing the pirates over as if your waving a carrot in the the air to some pigs.
Only problem is when this happens then console manufacturers start making iron fence security similar to the switch, and then you're out of luck. Now PC on the other hand...
Problem is you cant pirate on the newest consoles, not for a while at least. This is where the highest prices are. Unless these prices get transferred to pc.
That's the advantage of being a patient gamer, I buy my games a few years after they were released at a heavy discount and with all necessary patches plus interesting mods if I want to. The only downsides are having to avoid spoilers and if the game focuses heavily on multi-player most of the player base has already moved on and those that remain tend to be the ones who are insanely good at it, so there's that.
I’d love to do this. However Nintendo doesn’t ever do this. Years later and Botw is still 60%. Donkey Kong Tropical freeze even though it was released on the Wii U yeeeeears who. Is still 60 bucks
@@devideby_zero8596 occasionally, products like these have sales. I believe, only a few months ago, games like BoW went on sale at a 33% reduce price on the Nintendo store.
I noticed something strange this Christmas when I felt like playing Arkham Origins. The 360 game is indeed backwards compatible for the Xbox One but a digital copy does not exist on the Microsoft store. My only option was to buy an old physical copy of the game and install it. Lame af
@@youwouldntclickalinkonyout6236 If I were to buy another PC it wouldn't be for gaming especially because I dont play games as often these days due to school and work
The loss of the "AA" or middleware games greatly harmed the industry by pricing out developers who wanted to try out risky game ideas from releasing. And it really wasn't till the last seven years that the indie game scene on pc has been able to fill that again. I'm glad it came back
Then you got south American countries where many people are poor yet the cost of a game you would buy for 90$ new in North America costs like 150$ down there
No game above $5 should have microtransactions. Those are supposed to be reserved for shitty mobile games, but now they're invading our pc's and consoles.
While I would love to imagine that the people who are angry about this price hike will actually defy it in someway, it'll most likely end up like a EA/Activision type situation. Where people will claim on the internet that they're angry, however, they'll still throw money at the corporations doing the bad things, reinforcing their behavior
Kinda reminds me of Nintendo. Their business decisions can be pretty asinine, with many nodding in agreement to that, only for all thst to be ignored when they drop a good game
Fucking EA. God they're awful. You know the Sims games? Well Sims 4 has been constantly critiqued for how garbage and empty it was from the start and how you basically need mods to make it playable let alone fun. Creation is super busted, and storytelling is near impossible. Only good thing is the graphics (and as a mac user, that the mac version is truly ported to work on mac and not a shitty emulator like the otherwise super good 3 was). Currently, if you buy all of the game, the deluxe version of the base game and all the expansion, game, and stuff packs, and the newly minted kits, all at retail price when they came out, no sales or bundles, it costs 899.58$. It's absolutely nuts. Each pack has very little in it, and even after years we still haven't gotten everything that was in 3, and most of it is so badly done. Like the Star Wars expansion, most people didn't want it, some thought it'd be interesting to have Jedi's and use the force, sorta like how other past supernatural types worked, but it was literally just an advertisement for star Wars Land at Disneyland/DisneyWorld. Literally an exact copy. Impressive in the detailing, but that's all it was. The clothes for the world are literally the costumes cast members wear. And no fun jedi powers, it was just a vacation area with very little to actually do, and nothing that interacted with the rest of the game. They really made people pay 20$ for an ad. Fuck EA. There's a reason I haven't spent a single penny on this game, and actively help with getting the Windows crack to work for Mac. They treat the people at Maxis like shit, don't let them actually be creative and put out fully developed packs with a lot in them, stopped making the game compatible for machines running only 32 bit and only have updates for 64 bit (making the money people with older computers basically wasted) reference common mods in game descriptions showing they know how much those mods are needed to make it playable, and expect 900$ from me? Fuck no. There are good artists on the team, some of the "gurus" are really creative and knowledgeable, some of the stuff is really pretty. But there is maybe 200$ tops worth of game so far, not 900$. If you want to see the proof I'm not exaggerating, and the lengths procrastination and morbid curiosity will go to, here's my numbers: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aqr6vLX066lm7EAnxGWnMWlud5a1zOjn5lZXS6Kt7Fg/edit?usp=sharing
@@brandonadrien3476 Nintendo has a a get out of jail free card because they really care about gameplay quality, something that is very rare nowadays outside of indies
Because its economics you can go to the grocery store to by soda for 99 cents even 69 cents but when you get it from a restaurant its 3 to 4 dollar's With Game's there multiple cogs like marketing license paying employees developing the games the problem with Tyler's argument is he's making every company basically EA or Activision
@@demonking-zm3rs That's because company like EA and Activision are the one's pushing for this change for the rest of the industry digital distribution alone can make up for rising cost even then this industry is mostly indie or AAA with most of the more higher quality mid shelf game developers ( platinum games, monolithsoft, obsidiane etc) that care making good games try to get support from big publishers (sony, nintendo, Microsoft , Activision) rather solely depend on money made from individual games which may or may not become successful
They screw over their workers and don't pay them enough in many cases too. If they doubled their profits, that extra money won't go on salaries in most cases. Good thing a lot of places are unionising recently.
I can't even remember the last time I spent more than $30 on a game. I mostly buy indie stuff or wait for games to go on sale. Especially in an age where devs just release half the game later as DLC, I just don't spend the cash anymore.
Same here. I have a huge wishlist on Steam and just wait for them to drop below 20 bucks. Sometimes it takes a few years but being patient pays off (literally).
Yeah I usually wait for the $20 “Ultimate Edition” that includes all the DLC, patches and bug fixes. A lot of new games these days go on sale for $30 only 3 months after release. Or even better, they get added to Xbox game pass less than a year after release.
I stopped buying new games since i was 15.I do however honor the work they put in, and buy the game legaly,only at a discount becouse i also honor my work.
I don't think I've bought a new game on console (aside from switch games because nintendo) for years. I got crash for Christmas but I'm happy with what I have and getting free games every month
Considering how many games are out there and how often they go on sale there's little reason to buy them at full price when they first come out. I'll never get to all the games on my wishlist as it is.
Wait for a sale if the games you are getting is worth buying. If its just a dime a dozen game from shitty devs (ubisoft's assassin's creed *cough cough*) then do whatever you want tbh
Movies are also a weird market. They get most of their money from what is essentially a one use rental (box office), followed by licencing from streaming services. Unlike games, which depend on sales, the amount movies make from retail sales is miniscule in comparison. So while I agree games should be cheaper, the comparison isn't really fair.
yes and no. while movies are about as expensive as modern games, games do still sell less than movies. despite what many belive, gaming isnt as mainstream now as other mediums like music or movies and there is a significant age cut at which people just dont buy games anymore as well as a huge margin of young people that have never bought a 60$ game or played many games exept maybe some mobile ones or as a kid on a handheld. I entierly agree with the video and that the price increase is just bad but i can not see a world where you can play a new AAA Game for 20$. The sales for that are just not high enough. (Also movies make alot of money by reditributing the same product diffrently: movies make money from box office sales, Blu Ray/DVD sales, by licencing it to Netfix and so on and by licensing it to potentially a few hundrered tv stations around the world. So oftentimes they kind of sell the same product to the same customer twice or even thrice
@@Txkato Your points are all reasonable and fine. I haven't bought a £60/$60 game for years and years. I have become a cheap miser who spends not a penny if he can help it. And I completely agree that video games do not sell nearly as well as films. But remember GTA V made $800 million in a single day. So well made AAA games can make their money back, if your AAA game doesn't make your money back ask yourself the following: "Is our game a bit crud?"
Its Stockholm syndrome, full stop. People feel obligated to defend their "favorite brand or company" until their dying breath. It's all too tiring. When you point out they are a fanboy, you are called all sorts of names, lol
His old mike was breaking down, and it finally died. He's getting a new one. Audio should be improving soon I think. Follow him on twitter for the actual tweet
I stopped buying games when the average price exceeded 40$. It's only 60$ cause people actually pay 60$. If you want the price of games to drop, stop buying every new release.
Thing is, most poeple, like the overwhelming majority of the customers of the AAA market are either fossils playing candy crush or regular Joes and dude bros buying one CoD and/or FIFA each year. Those people don't even know about the whole pricing concern and if you explained it to them, chances are they wouldn't care.
@@beans8165 Yeah, that's how Europeans do it. It makes a lot more sense in my eyes. I mean, "$60" literally would be "dollars sixty" which is very weird
@@jamesrietveld5171 "In English, the sign precedes the value (for instance, €10); in most other European languages, the reverse is true (for instance, 10 €)." -Wikipedia
With every new title in the last couple of years starting anywhere from $70-$90 Australian Dollarydoos, when I saw Doom Eternal start at $120 I realised why I haven't bought any AAA games in half a decade. Indie developers just seem to respect my time and money a lot more.
WOAH WOAH WOAH!!! Let me get this perfectly straight: You comment something that is completely unrelated to the fact that I have two HAZARDOUSLY HOT girlfriends? Considering that I am the unprettiest TH-camr worldwide, it is really incredible. Yet you did not mention it at all. I am VERY disappointed, dear amit
@@AxxLAfriku WOAH WOAH WOAH!!! Let me get this perfectly straight: Your 2 'girlfriends' are your sisters? That makes sense, considering you are the unprettiest TH-camr worldwide. Yet you did not mention it at all I am very disappointed, dear amit
I don’t think I’ve had a meaningful or memorable experience with a AAA game since Skyrim. At this point I associate quality more with indie and small studio titles than with corporate ones.
I feel this way too. Like i bought the new call of duty, had about 40 hours of fun in it, then dropped it. But I have THOUSANDS of hours in TF2, and hundreds in skyrim, minecraft, etc.
Games shouldn’t cost $60 when sites like fangamer can manufacture indie game physical editions with full color inserts and reversible cover art for $35.
Video game developers: "Her derrr we gotta make it $70 to account for inflation." Also video game developers: "We are hitting record profits! Look how well we are doing!"
I remember paying $70 for N64 games back in the day, and I think another reason why prices could be going up is because physical media production of stuff like Blu-Ray is in decline. This could be a subtle way of pushing people into using more online subscriptions and calling for digital-only. I see this as an excuse to get people to demand cheaper games, and they'll kill physical media, lower their prices and say, "Sorry, people wanted cheaper games." I think everyone is being played... they know people will complain about the price hike, and they'll use that as the excuse to go digital only and push subscription services saying that was the only way to do it cheaper.
This is called capitalism. The "logical" thing for any corporation to do is make more money. That is why they exist in the first place. They do not care about the consumer.
thats just capitalism. the systems so damn stupid that it makes automation a bad thing. Imagine explaining to somebody a thousand years ago that there will come a day where nobody has to work, and that thats a bad thing.
There's also the fact that more expensive games are affordable to less people. If Karen is unwilling/unable to pay the upfront cost for the videogame, then bobby won't be able to trick her kids into paying $50000 for a star shaped reticle.
No one : Absolutely nobody : Not even big chungus : Keanu Reeves : Wait that's illegal Reddit : BIG BIG CHUNGUS BIG CHUNGUS redditor : *search lovecraft's cat name on google* Fbi : congratulations you got yourself caught Pepe : im based trolldad : Hello based i am dad Bane : for you Everyone liked that Everyone disliked that keanu Reevs: you're breathtaking baby yoda : thats a wholesome 100 moment big chungus : we don't say that word here
@@supersaiyaman11589 It's not like anyone's going hungry because you pirated a game, fuck 'em, take it for free and spend your money on something you can't pirate (like drugs).
@@Mike-st6dz video games should not be free if you want them pay for them it is as simple as that. Would you like to work for 8 hours and not get paid anything.
God lord i know... I live in europe and its pretty expensive. And actually, from where i live, there is no much of a gap between buying the new cod in Serbia and Swiss. Its 60 franks in Swiss and In Serbia its 6000 dinars (around 50-60 euros). Its pretty much just fucked up market everywhere. God i wish games could be 50 bucks again
You don't even need to wait years. Other than Nintendo games, the games usually go to like $20-$30 in like 6-9 months. People need to learn to be patient and stop with the FOMO.
The worst part are the same idiots who claim that they enjoy supporting the games they like by paying micro-transactions, are now of course making excuses for this price hike. I mean, the entire economic system is designed with corporations and the extremely wealthy in mind....what are you not understanding?
@@yunivor3146 Because they practically have a monopoly, on digital distribution for pc, especially for indie devs, you have no choice but to follow whatever rules they put on their platform. Additionally, this means that they get a pretty significant cut of the sales, when it requires little work for them at this point. Maybe not evil, but not very good.
Imagine spending 70-80 on a digital copy... within a week or 2 it'll be 60 or less for a physical copy and you can sell it for 10-30 after playing it for a month or so too
Honestly at this point it's time to just pirate or wait for deep discounts. My backlog is SO huge that I haven't been able to justify full price since before fallout 4 came out. I've gotten every game for ~50% off since then and I hope more people do that as well
Gotta play the Indie stuff. Games like Radio Commander, Bad North, and Outer Wilds are great. Spiritfarer too. Just buy from the small guys who put their heart into it.
Audio books are the way to go. I love reading as well, but with audio books I can play them while at my desk and working. So I get someone to tell me nice story while at the office.
@@RogierVJ W3 is overrated as hell and frankly more of an action adventure and not RPG... The main story with Ciri and destiny was pure cringe. Kingdom's come deliverance was a way better RPG for example.
"Games cost more to make!!" You mean, you have to put work into the unending bugs and glitches, the empty open worlds, the terrible physics, the graphical downgrades and the broken AIs?? Nah, you gotta TRIPLE CHECK that the in-game store is always working, right??
Do you really think the only increase in development costs of games in the last few decades has been from in game stores ? These conversations are pointless because people dont know how games are made or the current state of the industry, the reason games have less quality and more microtransactions is because developers have to reduce cost and increase revenue to make the same profits, as the development costs are going up but the price is the same.
9:15 I spoted an error: the assumption that every sell of a game is "pure profit". Platforms like Steam or the digital store of the consoles charge 30% for every sell, the government charges like 35% of the remaining, so the company would take only 45% of the price paid by the customer. For physical copies, the retail stores also charge their own fee, and there is also the transportation cost.
"Two little mice fell in a bucket of cream. The first mouse quickly gave up and drowned. The second mouse, wouldn't quit. He struggled so hard that eventually he churned that cream into butter and crawled out. I’m the second mouse.”
Yea for me i've only bought games on sale because I only started gaming recently and i've been catching up on the greats of ps4 generation (god of war, rdr2, doom eternal, last of us:remastered even though it's technically ps3) and i only intend on paying full price for games that are complete at launch, like GOW 5 and miles morales
Yeah, its super rare for me to buy a full price 60 game as well, I think I can count on one hand the number of times I did that. 70 isn't happening ever. I'll go back to my old pre-2010's games if everything charges that much.
@@austinreed7343 Indie games don't have the budget triple A games have so they don't need to charge 60 bucks, they are way smaller in scope and they sell a lot because they are cheap In an indie game releases at 60 dollars it wouldn't sell that well, most indies don't go beyond 40
Honestly, the game's I've had the most fun with in the last few years were made by smaller studios. Costing anywhere from 10-50$. 70$ is getting ridiculous, especially since most of this stuff is digital now and half finished at launch. Triple A can charge whatever they want, but I won't participate in it.
@@GamerBoy870 stuff like exchange rates, importation and shipping costs make stuff more expensive in other countries. Thankfully some digital stores like Steam have different prices for different regions, and that allows people in countries with relative less purchase power to buy games at a decent price.
If someone was to listen to what these companies have to say when it comes to video game prices he'd think that they're barely managing to stay afloat, while in reality they have net annual revenues in the billions (EA in 2020 had a net annual revenue of $3.4 billion).
@@KaiserMattTygore927 Absolutely not - hence why I preceded my message by stating that I agreed with OP's general message. I just think that using net profit instead of net revenue would be a clearer way of making the argument.
Some people like to play games more casually and PC gaming doesn't make much sense. No one should have to pay 70 bucks to play a micro transaction filled multiplayer online game. Also a good pc is very expensive more so than a console at least
@@evangoodman9658 With PC you can set a budget. You could go with 800 dollars, or 1200 dollars. You can even go higher to 2000 dollars, but you don't have too. Remember with PC, you get freedom.
I'm a fighting game fan. Videogames cost $85 already... and then another 20 for the rest of it... and then another 20 for more of the rest of it... and then another 20 for the revenge of the rest of it... and... ooh! Five years has gone by! TIME TO START THAT SHIT OVER!!!
@@Lord_Of_Aether Depends on what he's trying to do, to be fair. if he's not focused on SUPER AWESOME POGGERS EPIC BASED AND RED PILLED *_MEGA_* GRAPHICS AND MARKETING!! than he should be able to make a profit at 20.
@@Lord_Of_Aether $30-40 is realistic because studios don't run exclusively in air and passion. Passion doesn't pay for electricity and internet bills, for worker salary and benefits, and equipment purchase and building rent...
Every publisher now wants every consumer to spend eight hours per day playing a game they sold them for $70, and spend thousands more on microtransactions while they do it. The problem is there's only so much time in a day and consumers only have so much money. If every company keeps doing this, they will find that only a handful of games can maintain sustainable dedicated followings like that simply because there will be too many games competing for dominance in a limited pool of consumer man hours. If you're playing Call of Duty all day, you're not playing Battlefield, and if you're playing Fortnite all day, you're not playing Player Unknown's Battlegrounds. But every game wants to be the next big thing, and they're all doomed to take an ever smaller slice of the pie as the market becomes increasingly saturated.
And it gets worse because these publishers' shareholders expect constant growth; a growth which they can't possibly maintain forever. Once the growth reaches a plateau, investors will start selling off their shares and these companies will start to _lose_ money, and then they won't be able to keep churning out these games.
Good point. I never thought of that
All video game companies care about are short term gains, not long term growth. It literally quarter to quarter, especially in the AAA market.
This is literally just video game mercantilism.
Capitalism. The issue is capitalism.
That's also why the crunch is a problem. If the studio was a worker coop there wouldn't be crunch and there would be less of a tendency for people to put in nasty exploitative shit, since often people lower on the totem pole dislike doing blatantly unethical shit like that
If you sell your game in China then you basically have infinite customers. So what if they want you to sell your soul and look the other way when they steal your customer's data.
Price hikes and they'll still put content behind paywalls.
now that's punk!
And release broken products
*B u t t h e n e w g a m e s t a k e m o r e w o r k s o i t s h o u l d c o z t m o r e*
@@fiel81 Calling them products is too nice. It's more comparable to getting hacked.
@@robhillen8007 that's pretty accurate
Imagine spending $70 on an intentionally unfinished game, then have to buy their “annual season pass”, which is basically paying for planned patches, AND THEN having to buy DLC stuff for a better gaming experience.
Haha yeah big games are kinda shit imo. I got my first console upgrade when I got halo 3. 3 odst and reach were both incredible too. I then also really started enjoying the Forza series too. Halo 4 killed the chances of me getting an Xbox One and then I built my first PC. Pc gaming is just more flexible. You are less likely to see these half assed $60/70 games and more likely that you'll find a game that you can see grow for a fraction of the price. A few games thst I've picked up early access thst sum up to less than $60 include : $15 Kerbal Space Program, $15 minecraft, $15 beam NG drive, $15 wreakfest. And I think I paid even less for most of those games. Not to mention you also get access to modding so thst just widens the gap. I find in far more interesting to see a game grow properly and I'm a lot more likely to purchase the next game that these developers make as they have built my trust with them.
We don't have to imagine...
@@tmi1234567 exactly so glad I switched to pc where instead of begging my parents to get a 60$ game I would ask them for 20$ games or 7$ games
Buy the games years after they are released when they are already patched and with the expansions included, during steam discount season right after the new year.
Not even one of my favorite games, Ark survival evolved, can get away with that kind of shit. granted, they've had price drops before down to 20 bucks, which is amazing considering how big the game actually is, but honestly, I can't see it with anything. Not even them.
These mf’s can’t even release a full game, why tf should I pay more
Well just don't I guess
Cyberpunk still sore
@@rinkokonoe8644 This isnt even about Cyberpunk. Just look at all those DLCs.
@@elseggs6504 wym?
@@rinkokonoe8644 "For only 20$ dollars you can get these cosmetics, some exclusive missions and questionable ingame items!"
Time to teach a new generation how to sail the high seas again
Yarr har fiddle dee dee
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More like Rrrr
Time to visit the ol' pirate's bay
Or just wait a few years till the tech is more affordable and the game is either 20$ or less. I did that with Metro Exodus and still doing it with other games. Luckily AAA devs don't decide where the money in my wallet goes, I do.
Besides there are other hobbies one can pick up. Reading, cars, bikes, paintball, airsoft, robotics, etc etc.
They for some reason dont do it. There is less and less sailing as I can see. Grew up with older brother who was sailing and tought me and im the only one amongst my Friends who still does it
The worst part is that the increase in price is only going to line the CEO pockets more instead of going to the developers who actually crunch and make the game.
Maybe, we can get developers to sell their games through means that don't involve going through the middleman in order to work around this? I've read that a theoretical way to support music artists is to pirate the music, then send a check to the artists...
The rich get richer and the poor get even more poor. Nothing new here, happens all the time
It's about the investors. Basically shareholders only really care about companies making money, so the CEO has to be seen to making as much money as possible to pay out more in dividends every year otherwise the share price falls and the CEO is booted out.
Then the developers get fucking death threats on Twitter because the game released poorly (*cough* Cyberpunk *cough*) Then those same idiots who send those threats go and defend the 70$ price tag like it’s nothing.
I definitely play games all of the time but the “general gaming community” is full of fucking idiots.
@@DisDatK9 yeah we're about as short sighted as a bull looking at a red flag
I love how costs can go up due to inflation, but wages get to stay the same
Gotta minimize cost and maximize production, amirite?
@@thelouster5815 I think he meant to say “I love how prices go up due to inflation but wages get to stay the same”
Inflation? Buddy, the FED and the SEC has made sure Inflation has been trapped in it's pressure cooker. We haven't even seen inflation. Money Printer go Brrr, the "Federal Reserve" gets filled up, and the rich get richer at the cost of our lives.
Trust me. The second they let the inflation actually slip is the second the whole world sees America implode under the weight of it's own exponentially compounding debt.
@@yggdrasilburnes It's time to EAT THE RICH! 🍴
@@plaintruths6062 overall wages have been mostly stagnant since the 90s . Warehouse work In the 90s pays more then today
They cost so much knowledge Hub doesn't even have enough money to buy a mic anymore
Ya right this vid sounded a little weird
@@willmungas8964 his past few vids also did
nah, it's intentional. I mean....the visuals of his videos last year was very trippy on it's own way.
This year is Trippy audio, last year was trippy visuals.
I was having audio issues and NOBODY was saying anything in the comments man. I was panicking like like 'Shit my headphones broken??'
@@VestigialCode lol
Looks like pirating is gonna come back into style. Even drms can’t keep it from happening. Best way to combat piracy is to not eat people’s wallets.
Yeah exactly. Nobody is going to pirate when a game or service is actually and properly priced, but if you’re too un reasonable you’re bringing the pirates over as if your waving a carrot in the the air to some pigs.
Only problem is when this happens then console manufacturers start making iron fence security similar to the switch, and then you're out of luck. Now PC on the other hand...
@@Marzsala that's why more and more games are mostly online games
noooo give the big company their 70$ for a 4 hour experience 😭 you’re hurting them whyyyy😭
@@supremechaosbeing2696 noooo how could you refuse to applaud such lazy and rushed effort noooo 😭
I'm not paying $70 for a game.
Full stop.
Even $60 is hard to justify, anymore.
Same bro, if any game I see is above 60 and its base line, not gonna happen, I will avoid it till a sale happens or till I can get it somewhere else.
Should be a dollar to 40 dollars
Ebay
Fuck Bobby, we're pirating their games.
Even if the game is good?
I think you meant to put the title as "Video games are about to be pirated 5 times more"
@@PlatinumAltaria damn dude lol
@@PlatinumAltaria you, sir, were surgical in your statement.
@@PlatinumAltaria PS has some but yes ;))))
@@PlatinumAltaria well i heard persona5 is pretty damn great. but yeah, apart from that, there's literally nothing at all
Problem is you cant pirate on the newest consoles, not for a while at least. This is where the highest prices are. Unless these prices get transferred to pc.
The easy answer. Don’t buy the game until they reduce their price.
The better answer
YARR YARR HIPITY DO WHATEVER YOU WANT BECUSE A PIRATE IS FREE
That's the advantage of being a patient gamer, I buy my games a few years after they were released at a heavy discount and with all necessary patches plus interesting mods if I want to.
The only downsides are having to avoid spoilers and if the game focuses heavily on multi-player most of the player base has already moved on and those that remain tend to be the ones who are insanely good at it, so there's that.
That's getting harder too unless youre on PC , assassin's Creed Odyssey is still full price on the Xbox store.
I’d love to do this. However Nintendo doesn’t ever do this. Years later and Botw is still 60%. Donkey Kong Tropical freeze even though it was released on the Wii U yeeeeears who. Is still 60 bucks
@@devideby_zero8596 occasionally, products like these have sales. I believe, only a few months ago, games like BoW went on sale at a 33% reduce price on the Nintendo store.
I noticed something strange this Christmas when I felt like playing Arkham Origins. The 360 game is indeed backwards compatible for the Xbox One but a digital copy does not exist on the Microsoft store. My only option was to buy an old physical copy of the game and install it. Lame af
Sounds like a console problem, shoulda bought a pc and pirated the games lmao
@@youwouldntclickalinkonyout6236 Virgin
@@youwouldntclickalinkonyout6236 If I were to buy another PC it wouldn't be for gaming especially because I dont play games as often these days due to school and work
@@alexfp5980 Incel
@@mattf.868 Do you know what an incel is even? Lmao that’s u and half of the pc gaming community.
The loss of the "AA" or middleware games greatly harmed the industry by pricing out developers who wanted to try out risky game ideas from releasing. And it really wasn't till the last seven years that the indie game scene on pc has been able to fill that again.
I'm glad it came back
SCS with their truck simulators are the middle.
Except FromSoft and Warhorse Studios both prove you wrong
Funny thing is, it costs 70$in a country where the avg wage is 4000$ and still 70$ where the avg wage is 300$....
Then you got south American countries where many people are poor yet the cost of a game you would buy for 90$ new in North America costs like 150$ down there
Consoles that would cost 500$ new in north America go for multiple thousands of dollars there too
@@Gameprojordan why does that happen doe
@@markojovanovski3372 market and supply and demand. If people will pay out the ass for something then they will charge out the ass for it
@@gatordragon6140 I'm sorry,I'm not sure I understand?
Plot twist: That wasn’t an add for skill share and this is just another one of Tyler’s many psychotic breakdowns.
Well Cody was part of it after all. He voiced the bear I think
@@lobaandrade7172 "I turned myself into Bear, Tyler"
"I'm Bear Codyyy"
@@UnsaneMan Cody and Tyler Adventures
no that's the alternate history version
@@nanonymous9139 make it happen!
No $70 Game Should Have Microtransactions.
I'll wait to pickup used copies in 3yrs
No game above $5 should have microtransactions. Those are supposed to be reserved for shitty mobile games, but now they're invading our pc's and consoles.
I fear that if games are 70 usd or more, the gacha f2p model will thrive.
@@jerrymuffin8276 👍
Why? They're optional
While I would love to imagine that the people who are angry about this price hike will actually defy it in someway, it'll most likely end up like a EA/Activision type situation. Where people will claim on the internet that they're angry, however, they'll still throw money at the corporations doing the bad things, reinforcing their behavior
This. The majority will continue to bend over and take it.
This is why I am sticking with my Xbox one
Kinda reminds me of Nintendo. Their business decisions can be pretty asinine, with many nodding in agreement to that, only for all thst to be ignored when they drop a good game
Fucking EA. God they're awful. You know the Sims games? Well Sims 4 has been constantly critiqued for how garbage and empty it was from the start and how you basically need mods to make it playable let alone fun. Creation is super busted, and storytelling is near impossible. Only good thing is the graphics (and as a mac user, that the mac version is truly ported to work on mac and not a shitty emulator like the otherwise super good 3 was). Currently, if you buy all of the game, the deluxe version of the base game and all the expansion, game, and stuff packs, and the newly minted kits, all at retail price when they came out, no sales or bundles, it costs 899.58$. It's absolutely nuts. Each pack has very little in it, and even after years we still haven't gotten everything that was in 3, and most of it is so badly done. Like the Star Wars expansion, most people didn't want it, some thought it'd be interesting to have Jedi's and use the force, sorta like how other past supernatural types worked, but it was literally just an advertisement for star Wars Land at Disneyland/DisneyWorld. Literally an exact copy. Impressive in the detailing, but that's all it was. The clothes for the world are literally the costumes cast members wear. And no fun jedi powers, it was just a vacation area with very little to actually do, and nothing that interacted with the rest of the game. They really made people pay 20$ for an ad. Fuck EA.
There's a reason I haven't spent a single penny on this game, and actively help with getting the Windows crack to work for Mac. They treat the people at Maxis like shit, don't let them actually be creative and put out fully developed packs with a lot in them, stopped making the game compatible for machines running only 32 bit and only have updates for 64 bit (making the money people with older computers basically wasted) reference common mods in game descriptions showing they know how much those mods are needed to make it playable, and expect 900$ from me? Fuck no. There are good artists on the team, some of the "gurus" are really creative and knowledgeable, some of the stuff is really pretty. But there is maybe 200$ tops worth of game so far, not 900$.
If you want to see the proof I'm not exaggerating, and the lengths procrastination and morbid curiosity will go to, here's my numbers: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aqr6vLX066lm7EAnxGWnMWlud5a1zOjn5lZXS6Kt7Fg/edit?usp=sharing
@@brandonadrien3476 Nintendo has a a get out of jail free card because they really care about gameplay quality, something that is very rare nowadays outside of indies
*Sees title*
“Oh you can’t do this to me!”
*DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I'VE HUMAN SCARIFICED?!?!*
*pirates the game*
Company: “Oh you can’t do this to me!”
If they're so expensive to produce, why do they still make record *profit*?
because microtransactions, lying, and greed
Because its economics you can go to the grocery store to by soda for 99 cents even 69 cents but when you get it from a restaurant its 3 to 4 dollar's
With Game's there multiple cogs like marketing license paying employees developing the games the problem with Tyler's argument is he's making every company basically EA or Activision
@@demonking-zm3rs That's because company like EA and Activision are the one's pushing for this change for the rest of the industry digital distribution alone can make up for rising cost even then this industry is mostly indie or AAA with most of the more higher quality mid shelf game developers ( platinum games, monolithsoft, obsidiane etc) that care making good games try to get support from big publishers (sony, nintendo, Microsoft , Activision) rather solely depend on money made from individual games which may or may not become successful
Because they have to pay for their higher-ups' bonuses, duh.
They screw over their workers and don't pay them enough in many cases too. If they doubled their profits, that extra money won't go on salaries in most cases. Good thing a lot of places are unionising recently.
I can't even remember the last time I spent more than $30 on a game. I mostly buy indie stuff or wait for games to go on sale. Especially in an age where devs just release half the game later as DLC, I just don't spend the cash anymore.
I have never in my life spent over $30 on a game. And I got that $30 game with all its add-ons and DLC's 2 years after it's release.
Same here. I have a huge wishlist on Steam and just wait for them to drop below 20 bucks. Sometimes it takes a few years but being patient pays off (literally).
Yeah I usually wait for the $20 “Ultimate Edition” that includes all the DLC, patches and bug fixes. A lot of new games these days go on sale for $30 only 3 months after release. Or even better, they get added to Xbox game pass less than a year after release.
Fun fact: they call it AAAA titles because hearing that term makes people scream in horror uncontrollably.
With AAA people got confused if it was about games or the mexican wrestling promotion
they call it AAAA to appeal to the asexual audience
For me it's AAAArgh! ☠️🏴
I will unironically adopt this joke...
@@theunreadyone you mean virgins?
I stopped buying new games since i was 15.I do however honor the work they put in, and buy the game legaly,only at a discount becouse i also honor my work.
I don't think I've bought a new game on console (aside from switch games because nintendo) for years. I got crash for Christmas but I'm happy with what I have and getting free games every month
Considering how many games are out there and how often they go on sale there's little reason to buy them at full price when they first come out. I'll never get to all the games on my wishlist as it is.
I only bought 2 games in last decade... Among Us and Undertale (at discount)... Worth every penny
@@nivannakingsman1383 nintendo is that abusive relationship you never wanna lose lol
@@10cody7 you right
I've wondered for years how games hung around 50$. Then they started climbing and offered less.
This is the reason why I pirate games or only buy them at discounts now
No way in hell I'm buying something that's worth $100 in my currency
Bruh
Try 6k rsd
Wait for a sale if the games you are getting is worth buying. If its just a dime a dozen game from shitty devs (ubisoft's assassin's creed *cough cough*) then do whatever you want tbh
Movies cost as much to produce, but you can buy them for like 20 bucks or lower
Movies are also a weird market. They get most of their money from what is essentially a one use rental (box office), followed by licencing from streaming services. Unlike games, which depend on sales, the amount movies make from retail sales is miniscule in comparison. So while I agree games should be cheaper, the comparison isn't really fair.
@@wave1090 But most people only go to the cinema once to see any particular film. Just like people only buy a game once.
yes and no. while movies are about as expensive as modern games, games do still sell less than movies. despite what many belive, gaming isnt as mainstream now as other mediums like music or movies and there is a significant age cut at which people just dont buy games anymore as well as a huge margin of young people that have never bought a 60$ game or played many games exept maybe some mobile ones or as a kid on a handheld. I entierly agree with the video and that the price increase is just bad but i can not see a world where you can play a new AAA Game for 20$. The sales for that are just not high enough. (Also movies make alot of money by reditributing the same product diffrently: movies make money from box office sales, Blu Ray/DVD sales, by licencing it to Netfix and so on and by licensing it to potentially a few hundrered tv stations around the world. So oftentimes they kind of sell the same product to the same customer twice or even thrice
@@Txkato Whoa, I didn't expect replies. Yea, your arguments are pretty fair and I agree with you. Thanks for your time!
@@Txkato Your points are all reasonable and fine. I haven't bought a £60/$60 game for years and years. I have become a cheap miser who spends not a penny if he can help it.
And I completely agree that video games do not sell nearly as well as films. But remember GTA V made $800 million in a single day. So well made AAA games can make their money back, if your AAA game doesn't make your money back ask yourself the following: "Is our game a bit crud?"
"Never pay more than 20 bucks for a computer game"
- Guybrush Threepwood
The funniest thing about that price hike is how many consumers are actually defending it.
Its Stockholm syndrome, full stop. People feel obligated to defend their "favorite brand or company" until their dying breath. It's all too tiring. When you point out they are a fanboy, you are called all sorts of names, lol
It's a shame many gamers are just capitalist boot lickers. The only people they're defending are the CEOs.
I'll just torrent stuff or stop all together. Where I live, minimum monthly wage can only buy 9 games.
Not a bootlicker and not particularly happy but it’s not surprising games have gotten more expensive, due to inflation and stuff
@@reillymcwriting inflation isn’t a law of nature. Thank the federal reserve
the audio in this video is super weird. Almost like its being played through a cardboard a box
I think he goes for an old school radio sounding vibe. I mean the smooth jazz should be a dead give away.
Your brain is a cardboard box.
You using beats?
@@ZetaFuzzMachine wow, it does sound much better through a cellphone speaker.
His old mike was breaking down, and it finally died. He's getting a new one. Audio should be improving soon I think. Follow him on twitter for the actual tweet
devs making pennies on the dollar, meanwhile execs and CEOs getting richer than ever! time to support indie devs more
That’s just every company in general
Everything gets more expensive all the time, except for our labor. Weird how that works.
Healthcare, education costs, housing all have increased thousands of percents
Meanwhile wages are stagnant.
Really makes you wonder
If only there was a way for workers to barter for better treatment...
You mean unions that siphone tons of your paycheque and the heads of the unions pocket it while barely doing anything to protect their workers?
A corporation want to raiser their prices: "that's free market"
Workers want to raise their prices: "hey stop communism"
There is a big surplus of labour, that is why
I stopped buying games when the average price exceeded 40$. It's only 60$ cause people actually pay 60$. If you want the price of games to drop, stop buying every new release.
Thing is, most poeple, like the overwhelming majority of the customers of the AAA market are either fossils playing candy crush or regular Joes and dude bros buying one CoD and/or FIFA each year. Those people don't even know about the whole pricing concern and if you explained it to them, chances are they wouldn't care.
Some people buy Sports games and don’t care if they are trash
@@thedude5294 Marketing is about exploiting the unaware
>average price exceeded 40
where in the world are you from? Cause shit has been 50 dollars minimum for a AA/AAA release since the PS2 days
@@snakevenom56 Portable consoles until switch had titles that were at most 40$
I’ve never been happier to be a gaming boomer who uses my high-end PC to play old games.
I have never been happier discovering random indie games
Pirate AAA games. Support indie devs. Greed infested publishers dont deserve a dime.
"They should not cost 60 $..."
... meanwhile me living in the EU is now going to pay 80 €
depends on console and country
does the currency sign follow the number in the EU? in the U.S we'd put $60 for sixty dollars
@@beans8165 Yeah, that's how Europeans do it. It makes a lot more sense in my eyes. I mean, "$60" literally would be "dollars sixty" which is very weird
@@nichl474 from Europe, but never seen 12 € it's always € 12.
@@jamesrietveld5171 "In English, the sign precedes the value (for instance, €10); in most other European languages, the reverse is true (for instance, 10 €)." -Wikipedia
With every new title in the last couple of years starting anywhere from $70-$90 Australian Dollarydoos, when I saw Doom Eternal start at $120 I realised why I haven't bought any AAA games in half a decade.
Indie developers just seem to respect my time and money a lot more.
Lol imagine playing AAA games for 3x the price and a quarter the quality
pay MORE for LESS!
WOAH WOAH WOAH!!! Let me get this perfectly straight: You comment something that is completely unrelated to the fact that I have two HAZARDOUSLY HOT girlfriends? Considering that I am the unprettiest TH-camr worldwide, it is really incredible. Yet you did not mention it at all. I am VERY disappointed, dear amit
@@AxxLAfriku WOAH WOAH WOAH!!! Let me get this perfectly straight: Your 2 'girlfriends' are your sisters? That makes sense, considering you are the unprettiest TH-camr worldwide. Yet you did not mention it at all I am very disappointed, dear amit
Imagine playing AAA games.
This is the main reason I try to stick to indies
Next you will be telling us that we cannot trust politicians.
What can I say he always has the truth
Ever heard about "Ordinary Things"?
I recommend the channel!
Their fatal flaw is dishonesty. Politicians trained themselves to be consummate liars.
@@cg1906 the channel?
The #1 problem within modern society is the unsustainable pure greed of the owner class. Period.
Games have already increase to more than a hundred dollars. aka, the "Complete" Editions.
I don’t think I’ve had a meaningful or memorable experience with a AAA game since Skyrim. At this point I associate quality more with indie and small studio titles than with corporate ones.
I feel this way too. Like i bought the new call of duty, had about 40 hours of fun in it, then dropped it. But I have THOUSANDS of hours in TF2, and hundreds in skyrim, minecraft, etc.
@@marshmellominiapple this was the golden age
I just can feel the same way, but maybe thats because I stay away from bad game companies like Activision and blizzard and the like.
@@notimeforcreativenamesjust3034 they are good sometimes.. but not lately
Yeah like I enjoy the new assassins creed games, but they’re just not as memorable as games like Skyrim, oblivion, Minecraft ect
I didn’t even realize this was made 2 years ago.
Games shouldn’t cost $60 when sites like fangamer can manufacture indie game physical editions with full color inserts and reversible cover art for $35.
Video game developers: "Her derrr we gotta make it $70 to account for inflation."
Also video game developers: "We are hitting record profits! Look how well we are doing!"
That's only MAJOR companies like Activision, Blizzard and EA to name a few. MOST gaming companies are not doing nearly that well.
@@boredfangerrude The giants always feast while the weaker starve sadly...
Developers are one thing. Publishers are another.
I remember paying $70 for N64 games back in the day, and I think another reason why prices could be going up is because physical media production of stuff like Blu-Ray is in decline. This could be a subtle way of pushing people into using more online subscriptions and calling for digital-only. I see this as an excuse to get people to demand cheaper games, and they'll kill physical media, lower their prices and say, "Sorry, people wanted cheaper games." I think everyone is being played... they know people will complain about the price hike, and they'll use that as the excuse to go digital only and push subscription services saying that was the only way to do it cheaper.
Imagine with technology making things easier it's only logical to make them cheaper right
E.A; CUTE, but no
You could replace EA with almost any major game developers tbf
I mean the lack of price increases compared to everything else was impressive for while, NES games cost $60 which is over $100 now
This is called capitalism. The "logical" thing for any corporation to do is make more money. That is why they exist in the first place. They do not care about the consumer.
@@tj5641 word.
thats just capitalism. the systems so damn stupid that it makes automation a bad thing. Imagine explaining to somebody a thousand years ago that there will come a day where nobody has to work, and that thats a bad thing.
Ha imagine paying over £10 for a game I've spent way too long in terraria. This is a cry for help.
Ayyy, I just put another 15 hours into a new playtrough, don't call for help cause help ain't coming.
Indie gaming is where its at. I haven't spent more than $10 on a game in years.
I pretty much only play indie
Don't you mean $10
@@autumn64fromdeltarunechapter3 same
Normie consoomers did this.
"OMG this game is so good they charge $70! I'm gonna... consooom!"
There's also the fact that more expensive games are affordable to less people. If Karen is unwilling/unable to pay the upfront cost for the videogame, then bobby won't be able to trick her kids into paying $50000 for a star shaped reticle.
Me: wants to buy cyberpunk for $1
Cyberpunk: but the graphics make it cost $60
But the gameplay makes it cost $10
The empty city of dreams
😩 failed purpose
No one :
Absolutely nobody :
Not even big chungus :
Keanu Reeves : Wait that's illegal
Reddit : BIG BIG CHUNGUS BIG CHUNGUS
redditor : *search lovecraft's cat name on google*
Fbi : congratulations you got yourself caught
Pepe : im based
trolldad : Hello based i am dad
Bane : for you
Everyone liked that
Everyone disliked that
keanu Reevs: you're breathtaking
baby yoda : thats a wholesome 100 moment
big chungus : we don't say that word here
@@capitanmonco pop
The sad part is that the increase of price does not always go to the developers, they go to the higher ups.
Wrong, the increase prices go to getting more developers, that's why games cost more to develop
it seems Tyler has migrated exclusively to my right earhole
This is great news.
I can't wait for the great pirate era,
since buying a game is far worse and more scummy then pirating it.
Great Pirate Era Sounds hella like One Piece
if you pirate the game that means you wanted it to begin with. why not pay for it or wait for it to go on sale.
@@supersaiyaman11589 It's not like anyone's going hungry because you pirated a game, fuck 'em, take it for free and spend your money on something you can't pirate (like drugs).
@@Mike-st6dz if everyone pirated games they would not make games did you ever think of that.
@@Mike-st6dz video games should not be free if you want them pay for them it is as simple as that. Would you like to work for 8 hours and not get paid anything.
Price hikes and they'll still underpay their employees and overwork them to meet deadlines
"bUt dOnT yOu wAnT tO sUppOrT tHe dEvs"
Me, a Canadian:
"You guys are paying less than $79?"
90$ CAD for new release AAA console games
@@Gameprojordan god makes you wonder how much AAAA games will cost
God lord i know... I live in europe and its pretty expensive. And actually, from where i live, there is no much of a gap between buying the new cod in Serbia and Swiss. Its 60 franks in Swiss and In Serbia its 6000 dinars (around 50-60 euros). Its pretty much just fucked up market everywhere. God i wish games could be 50 bucks again
Lmao I feel that hardcore as a Nintendo fan
@@Gameprojordan i think people know how USD to CAD works
"Where else are you going to get your game?"
The good old sea dog has your back covered. ;)
Imagine paying for brand new games instead of waiting years for the game to go on sale on steam.
You don't even need to wait years. Other than Nintendo games, the games usually go to like $20-$30 in like 6-9 months. People need to learn to be patient and stop with the FOMO.
@@Sebastian-bb5nc tbh I'm a poor gamer, so I still dont buy most games over 20
Humble bundle has sales too, and there's a small chance of finding something ya want in one of their game bundles too.
@@SpeedyThingGoIn4 that's true, that is true
its called liking a game and wanting to support the developers and companies ho make the games.
The worst part are the same idiots who claim that they enjoy supporting the games they like by paying micro-transactions, are now of course making excuses for this price hike. I mean, the entire economic system is designed with corporations and the extremely wealthy in mind....what are you not understanding?
Inflation is pretty fkn stupid; the reason people hate the price hike is because salaries haven't risen with inflation for DECADES now
this is why Im still trying to get through my backlog of ps1 and ps2 games so I dont have to deal with the bullshit of this new game nonsense
Me too man... well, partially. I think I'm really getting a kick on classics like Rally Cross 2, Popa, Cybersphere Plus, & a bunch of others.
@@ExtremeWreck Check out the jak and daxter series, of you haven't already.
@@sebastianlucas704 I heard good things about those, but I was more into Ratchet And Clank.
Why would anyone round down when it comes to spend their own money? One should always round up.
It's subconscious, not a choice
1 year later and the new MW2 is $110 AUS. I have never and I can never see myself paying $110 for any game.
And here we have a perfectly packaged reason why I will never leave my blessed steam account
I really hope that steam won't turn evil
@@yunivor3146 They already are.
@@sebastianlucas704 Why?
@@yunivor3146 Because they practically have a monopoly, on digital distribution for pc, especially for indie devs, you have no choice but to follow whatever rules they put on their platform. Additionally, this means that they get a pretty significant cut of the sales, when it requires little work for them at this point. Maybe not evil, but not very good.
"Uhhh, consoles bad, PC goood"
You do realize that these problems aren't exclusive to consoles, right?
I bought fallout NV for 3 dollars cad, that is more content than some of these 90 dollar (cad) games have.
All hail the steam sale.
755 my dude. 75% off RRP or less than $5. Good rule.
to be fair that game is over a decade old
@Feral cat nice
@@Roggor no I checked and I got it for 3.30$
@Feral cat true i once got the newest nba 2k for $2.99 i guess u just gotta wait
Imagine spending 70-80 on a digital copy... within a week or 2 it'll be 60 or less for a physical copy and you can sell it for 10-30 after playing it for a month or so too
10 more dollars won’t be worth my unfinished game.
what?
If I knew videogames were gonna get so shitty I would’ve just went outside
@@Luke-yh9nm damn dude, you must be playing the wrong games.
@@MrMoon-hy6pn I still have good games that I play, it’s just that none of them are new releases
Honestly at this point it's time to just pirate or wait for deep discounts. My backlog is SO huge that I haven't been able to justify full price since before fallout 4 came out.
I've gotten every game for ~50% off since then and I hope more people do that as well
We've to pay for...
The game (Unfinished)
Season pass (Patches)
DLC
Gaming is so bad that I've started reading books.
Fair enough my friend.
Gotta play the Indie stuff. Games like Radio Commander, Bad North, and Outer Wilds are great. Spiritfarer too. Just buy from the small guys who put their heart into it.
@@Bova-Fett I'd love too but I'm a massive cheapskate!
Audio books are the way to go. I love reading as well, but with audio books I can play them while at my desk and working. So I get someone to tell me nice story while at the office.
@@darthsawlex8257 lucky you, Indie games are often on sale
Dont worry the dlc will also get a price hike because The CEO's need more cash while normal staff gets sacked
"They lie to us;
They know they're lying;
We know they're lying;
They know we know they're lying;
But they are still lying." - Alexander Solzhenitsyn
When skillshare wants you to make the ad 2 minutes long:
What kind of an idiot sits through and watches that part anyway
This is why I just stick to playing my backlog of games.
Same I have so many in my backlog
And thanks to papa EPIC, the library just keeps on growing free of charge.
@@Numbers_Game you just gotta wonder how long they'll keep it up
I've largely been playing the same shit i've played since 2000.
I play my old games. So worth the time.
This man warned y'all, y'all didn't listen, now y'all will face y'all's consequences
The fact that you'd only need to buy like 6 ish games to exceed the price of the actual console is the reason I dont play console anymore
I was never really drawn to AAA games at all, I don't understand how people like the, they just seem so conceptually disinteresting to me
Only if you buy them new. It's not like the games won't eventually go on sale.
@@neo-filthyfrank1347 Some AAA games such as The Witcher 3 and The Last of Us are good
@@RogierVJ I'm not familiar with them but I've never really seen one where like the general premise of the game interests me
@@RogierVJ W3 is overrated as hell and frankly more of an action adventure and not RPG... The main story with Ciri and destiny was pure cringe. Kingdom's come deliverance was a way better RPG for example.
"Games cost more to make!!"
You mean, you have to put work into the unending bugs and glitches, the empty open worlds, the terrible physics, the graphical downgrades and the broken AIs??
Nah, you gotta TRIPLE CHECK that the in-game store is always working, right??
Doubly funny since most games have one or the other, only rarely both
Do you really think the only increase in development costs of games in the last few decades has been from in game stores ? These conversations are pointless because people dont know how games are made or the current state of the industry, the reason games have less quality and more microtransactions is because developers have to reduce cost and increase revenue to make the same profits, as the development costs are going up but the price is the same.
9:15 I spoted an error: the assumption that every sell of a game is "pure profit". Platforms like Steam or the digital store of the consoles charge 30% for every sell, the government charges like 35% of the remaining, so the company would take only 45% of the price paid by the customer.
For physical copies, the retail stores also charge their own fee, and there is also the transportation cost.
Just play games 2 years after they come out.
Fixed the problem
Yup tons of people are doing this already
Play it 10 years after they come out and pay 5 bucks for it
Literally got fallout new vegas and star wars commando for 3.50 aka more than a bottle of chocy milk
I bought Star Wars Battlefront 2 for £11 and I think that's the last game I ever bought. (That's 15 dollars btw.)
@@randomname7321 I got Fallout New Vegas Ultimate Edition and Oblivion Game of the year edition both for 8 bucks at the dollar store
As a wise man once said
"Never spend more that 20 bucks on a video game"
if it's more then 20 bucks ... wait until next week
" If it's more than 20 bucks, wait until a sale."
I bought "Doom Eternal" for $30, but it was alright. I think I got Doom 2016 for less than $20 though.
I bought "Doom Eternal" for $30, but it was alright. I think I got Doom 2016 for less than $20 though.
The monkey island ending
"Two little mice fell in a bucket of cream. The first mouse quickly gave up and drowned. The second mouse, wouldn't quit. He struggled so hard that eventually he churned that cream into butter and crawled out. I’m the second mouse.”
This is my first time hearing this quote and i still love it
@@masonbooh5941 it's from a movie, I believe. Forgot the name though...
@@theemperor-wh40k18 Catch me if you can 2002
this is why you never buy games right at launch. buggy, expensive and incomplete until all the DLC comes out
Especially hyped games
botw was complete on launch , DLC expanded , not Filled a void
@@memeboi6017 we genuinely dont care if you have to post it twice
@@se-pr6pk i dont know how that happened
Yea for me i've only bought games on sale because I only started gaming recently and i've been catching up on the greats of ps4 generation (god of war, rdr2, doom eternal, last of us:remastered even though it's technically ps3) and i only intend on paying full price for games that are complete at launch, like GOW 5 and miles morales
Me seeing this during online classes “hmm interesting”
Hmmm interesting
Same
Same
Hard same
what are the chances, same
So we are basically paying for advertising?
Yes
video games costing 70 usd...
latin america says: first time?
They never heard what's true inflation.
@@daniel_rossy_explica money printer goes brrr
American s from the 80s/90s
Hey that's cheap!!!
70? hell, i never even bought a game at a full 60 price tag
I’ve got only bought a 60$ game once and it was Hitman 3, hope it turns out good
@Cooked Кофе robbery
Yeah, its super rare for me to buy a full price 60 game as well, I think I can count on one hand the number of times I did that.
70 isn't happening ever. I'll go back to my old pre-2010's games if everything charges that much.
@@KaiserMattTygore927 tbh so many pre 2010 games beat modern games
Heck 40$ is too much for me and that was a Pokémon game!
this is why pirating is still a thriving thing
me in canada where its already like 80 bucks: hmm ok
True true.... but Canadians use monopoly money as currency so....
so soory to hear, bud.
Yep :( at least sometimes hard copy’s are cheeper , love to know how that one goes
So true fellow Canadian. 70 dollar us games are 90 here
Robin J that literally because you’re exchange rate is lower it’s still the same price
Me who almost exclusively buys indie games on steam: man this problems still really bad even though I'm barely affected if at all by it
And now even Nintendo is doing it...
With Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom
Thank god I pre-ordered before the price hike. Fuck $70 games, me and my homies hate $70 games
Who’s to say eventually INDIES won’t start doing it?
@@austinreed7343 Indie games don't have the budget triple A games have so they don't need to charge 60 bucks, they are way smaller in scope and they sell a lot because they are cheap
In an indie game releases at 60 dollars it wouldn't sell that well, most indies don't go beyond 40
Honestly, the game's I've had the most fun with in the last few years were made by smaller studios. Costing anywhere from 10-50$. 70$ is getting ridiculous, especially since most of this stuff is digital now and half finished at launch. Triple A can charge whatever they want, but I won't participate in it.
Preach
Imagine buying a car and the Engine is too weak
The more they rise their prices, the more I am unlikely to buy games in the first half year it came out. The last time I did that was like Diablo3....
me who pirates everything exempt indie games: i have no such weakness
It only gets worse from here
"They shouldn't even cost 60"
Me, a Canadian being charged 80 for games abt to to up to 90: "huh"
I dont understand that why why are so expensive in foreign country but not in the USA
@@GamerBoy870 idk about in other countries but in Canada its mostly because of exchange rate
@@GamerBoy870 stuff like exchange rates, importation and shipping costs make stuff more expensive in other countries. Thankfully some digital stores like Steam have different prices for different regions, and that allows people in countries with relative less purchase power to buy games at a decent price.
@@jhawk1229 but its over the border not across the ocean
Same in Australia
As a PC gamer I'm never gonna buy a game for 60$ let alone 70$
You may call me pampered but Gaben is just a good savior
Steam summer sale is our holy land.
@@warhawk2574and g2a
If someone was to listen to what these companies have to say when it comes to video game prices he'd think that they're barely managing to stay afloat, while in reality they have net annual revenues in the billions (EA in 2020 had a net annual revenue of $3.4 billion).
While I agree with your sentiment, revenue is much different to profit. Is is possible for a company to have billions in revenue but not make a profit
@@stelfzor I said net revenue. Their gross revenue is ~$5.5 billion
@@stelfzor I hope you're not trying to imply that AAA business are just hapless victims that are just trying to scrape pennies together.
@@KaiserMattTygore927 Absolutely not - hence why I preceded my message by stating that I agreed with OP's general message. I just think that using net profit instead of net revenue would be a clearer way of making the argument.
Solution do PC gaming games generally cost cheaper and when there's a steam sale they can get up to 75% off
Some people like to play games more casually and PC gaming doesn't make much sense. No one should have to pay 70 bucks to play a micro transaction filled multiplayer online game. Also a good pc is very expensive more so than a console at least
@@evangoodman9658 With PC you can set a budget. You could go with 800 dollars, or 1200 dollars. You can even go higher to 2000 dollars, but you don't have too. Remember with PC, you get freedom.
@@granda3649 Yes but PC gaming isn't casual and either way console gaming is much cheaper
@@evangoodman9658 "PC gaming isn't casual" - Huh. How?
I'm a fighting game fan. Videogames cost $85 already... and then another 20 for the rest of it... and then another 20 for more of the rest of it... and then another 20 for the revenge of the rest of it... and... ooh! Five years has gone by! TIME TO START THAT SHIT OVER!!!
I can’t even afford a 20 dollar game
If I ever make a video game studio, all of the games would be $10-20.
$30-40 would be more realistic if you want good quality and no microtransactions, but I see where you're coming from.
@@Lord_Of_Aether Depends on what he's trying to do, to be fair.
if he's not focused on SUPER AWESOME POGGERS EPIC BASED AND RED PILLED *_MEGA_* GRAPHICS AND MARKETING!!
than he should be able to make a profit at 20.
@@KaiserMattTygore927 To be fair, that is what most developers are aiming towards, so I thought I should mention it. You know, just in case.
MDickie
@@Lord_Of_Aether $30-40 is realistic because studios don't run exclusively in air and passion. Passion doesn't pay for electricity and internet bills, for worker salary and benefits, and equipment purchase and building rent...