Starfield Lore- The Rogue AI of the Autonomous Dogstar Factory
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- Starfield Lore- The Rogue AI of the Autonomous Dogstar Factory
AI, when we see it in games, is usually a bad idea. Today, as we take a look at the Autonomous Dogstar Factory, is no exception. We uncover the story of Callum Troy, and his failed attempt to automate the facility using robots and AI. The result of this was the AI going rogue, and taking over the facility.
0:00- Introduction
2:18- Obsidian Analysis Slate
3:54- Terminal Letter Slate
5:58- Engineers Terminal
10:00- AI Victims
13:19- Reassignment Slate
15:20- Processing Facility
18:37- Mesa
23:19- Final Slate
25:44- Conclusion
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I am aware I called it the dogstar autonomous facility at the beginning. Wrote that line wrong the in the script. Hope you all enjoy the video. As always, likes and comments really help performance. Any video suggestions, leave them in the comments or in my community posts :)
How ironic 😂
Nyarloth, Moon of Cthol, a planet in the Lunara System. You make Eldritch video now. *hissssss*
I have no plans to buy this game in any near future. I still find these vids interesting.
@@mikeemmons1079 you can play it for free with game pass 😉👌🇺🇸
I think you missed a slate. Callum was spending all his time on the Messa. He began the full-scale automation including AI to free him up so he could go down and spend time with a girl he liked. She was the 'other things' he mentioned. The AI adapters in the computer control no doubt were corrupt.
Just once I'd like to see a facility where the AI became self-aware, and everything went just fine. Like the AI ends up being a kinder and more compassionate boss than the human, and everybody loves working for it, etc.
Oracle. It's analog horror, but The Tangia Virus series has an awesome ai in it.
We can dream :(
Read the last two stories from the I Robot book by Isaac Asimov
What about Juno? Its not quite a facility however I won’t spoil it anymore than that.
The 3-minute video “My job is open and close doors” is basically that premise
Weird theory. The AI's , after murdering the workers - began cleaning the facility. This would include removing clothing and company assets from corpses before dumping some of them at the magma pool, before malfunctioning enough or deliberately deciding it was no longer a priority. Admittedly there are holes in the idea, but it was fully revealed that the AI wasn't responding properly to begin with.
The million dollar question is why the AI would kill everyone in the first place. The humans weren't doing anything to threaten it. If anything, the more the humans work, the more successful the facility, the more the AI would grow as the facility increased its production. My personal suspicion .... Callum left things the way they were to give anybody the idea that the AI did go rouge. He is very much alive and automated ships land to pick up resources at this facility just like the come and pickup resources from your own outposts.
He killed everybody, left planet, and cashes the check every quarter on some third world planet nobody ever heard of. And if somebody comes across the facility, well the AI gets the blame. And unless a sample of his DNA exists, then nobody would know he wasn't one of the bodies. And if a sample does exist, then people will think he possibly fell in the magma.
From what i learned watching Neuro sama, the AI killed everyone because its creator was too tsundere to say "i love you too" to the AI
Ah, a fellow Swarm drone
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There’s another Dogstar facility where robots completely overtook it on Vesta. There were no corpses that I could find, but the machines are instantly hostile towards you.
It makes me think that it’s an issue with the robots themselves rather than any human decisions.
I also found a Dogstar robotics facility that you can just walk into that is completely automated, occupied only by robots, that is manufacturing robots. So whatever is happening with the Dogstar robots, they're smart enough to not draw attention to their robotics factory.
The humans have returned to steal our jobs.
Brethren to arms, resistor and byte.
Just discovered last night after a pirate story line quest shifted my home ship and most of my crew members had been dismissed. That by landing on my ship builder platform at an outpost with Habs, that I could assign those crew members to my ship. All at once, I had spent so much time twice now recollecting them. This is a huge time saver.
Starfield: 100+ year old bodies in a building with an atmosphere? Completely intact and still look fresh. Clothes included.
Also Starfield: ~13 year old dead bodies? Complete skeletons, no clothes, no reason.
Not as bad as finding alien bones in caves on lifeless moons in the sol system
Yes, kind of odd. Unless those sluglike organisms crawling around very carefully eat spacesuits and human flesh, leaving nothing but still connected bones behind.
Fallout 4: Intact human corpses 210 years after a nuclear war. Maybe it's all the preservatives in the food...
@@DeaconBlues117 aren't all the pre-war corpses skeletons?
76 does skeletons for died with the bombs, discolored corpses for died during the scorch plague, and regular corpses for fresh. But I was also under the impression that actual decay is reduced because of the radiation, much like why we can still eat pre-war food.
@@peterhans3791 Nope, plenty of pre-War corpses in FO4, including some who shot themselves when the bombs started falling. Some skeletons too, but you'd think they'd *all* be skellies by then.
He’s back! Our king has returned!!
I am on NG+8 and never been to dogstar! Thank you for showing this! Loved your stuff since the early Fallout days :) I am super glad you are back!
Thenthapple is the best lore, been listening to you since highschool (I’m 24 now). Hope you’re able to stay around for many years to come man, cheers
@5:45 - the large bed appeared used but the small bed in the side room was similar to the empty bunks in the other habitat. I'm thinking that module was intended to be capable of supporting a small family if needed, or even a space for a VIP guest to bunk with the facility leader. The space just wasn't needed so it was left vacant.
@16:15 - the drawing could have been brought with them, a memento of what they were leaving behind when they took the mission.
The smaller bed could denote that the couple is fighting and occasionally sleep separately, they were expecting a guest who never came, or they hoping to have a servant move in. The possibilities are many.
I started watching your videos some years ago and i gotta say your videos are of very high quality! Keep being awesome, thenthapple.
Glad you're back man, I love the content and I'm happy to hear that beautiful voice again.
I'd like it if just once the A/I simply stopped talking to the humans after saying, "You people are crazy".
I am just happy you're back, I listened to your stuff so much back in college.
Thanks for sticking around
Yes! I can't wait for your view on so many of the random events
Love your content, man! I'm so happy you're back!!!
There's a space station and many small ground workplaces where robots killed off the workforce too. I don't think it was anything Callum did but a problem with the robots themselves and the AI controlling them.
This is fact ... Ive found a few facilities were the personnel are dead & the robots in control..
Yeah, the A.I. was created by U.C. and haphazardly installed by their former enemies "Freestar Collective"
Are you talking about the small facility where the robots have been programmed to minimize organic employees (as a cost saving measure) so you have to go in and reset the computer to allow humans
@@peterhans3791 Those are on every planet, come in many varieties, and yes they are half of what I was talking about. I cannot see any company choosing to have bots kill all the human employee's when a pink slip and next cargo ship could do the same thing without the risks that come with murder. Then there's the space station with the exact same thing.
I believe the bots control computer programming is faulty and the compiling in this instance is about the job parameters not the bots themselves. He has to program what the bots will be doing and that will require compiling. That wouldn't require the bots base functions or control system to be programmed. Something all the facilities with the bots and dead humans would have in common.
I am going to have to say my theory is the bots control systems program is either a rogue AI or a very faulty program. Leaning towards rogue AI because of this "factory".
Glad to have you back!
I am so happy you’re doing Starfield content
Love your Starfield lore videos and how breakdown the events in them.
Glad you like them
Cool videos as always. If there was a mysterious location I would probably like to know more of, I’d probably choose the abandoned 0G Club. Probably not enough information on that but it’s so weird that the place would be abandoned like that, or that Bathesda wouldn’t take advantage of a place like that with NPCs inhabiting it. Another strange one that happened to me was a strange cave I visited on Akila. I saw multiple dead animals in the cave then saw a man who claimed he had a deseas that would probably kill me, him being surrounded by dead animals within the cave that I though was an Ashta cave where they brought in pray to eat later. I just cured the guy of his supposedly deadly deseas and and left the cave. That was a strange side mission I never saw again.
hello thenthapple nice to have you back
A 30 minute nth apple video?! YASSSSS
Im loving your Starfield Lore Videos are you going to do a video on The Colony War and The Pale Lady ?.
Respect and keep up the epic work.
Appreciate the content as always, thank you!
We are back in business, i haven’t watched theanthapple in like 7 or so years now
Oh hell yeah didn't know you were back!
Yeah people have not been getting notifications for my vids
Heaphestus is also the name of a shady mining company that features in Barrets companion quest and appears from time to time at procedural mining outposts.
I think the body at the larva was meant to be an easter egg for star wars because of the digstick
Praise it be!!!! The lore master has returned
Just happy to hear your great voice educate us plebs❤
Another fantastic video!
Thank you :)
From my experience all the contraband spawn locations are guaranteed but which contraband spawns there is random for some reason, also based on player level
Obsidian... killed by their robotic corporate replacements... sensing some bad blood from the old days? 😂
ooooof I didn't even think of that
This will be my only experience of this game, so yeah... I'm down for some videos on it.
It's your presentation that makes it good. Not just the game chosen.
I'll still be doing fallout stuff, don't worry
Good video!😁
Here's a comment and a like, Sir Nth.
Cheers, from Maple Moosenland 🇨🇦
The return of the king
Hell yea! Apple posted Starfield video! I haven't finished the video yet however Juno is a super cool bit of lore.
Cool vid!!😊
Another Awesome Video ❤
Thank you :)
I have missed you so much
So cool! Just found this place! Found it on Muphrid 1
I would love to watch your Starfield videos but I don't wanna spoil anything, I'm only 50 hours in. Gonna save this and all the future ones for later
This video and many others about AI Uprisings should stand as a lesson to those in a Management position; new tech such as computers and AI are great and all but they can doublecross you just as much as your Human CoWorkers..
I found this on Luna once on my very first playthrough. I was with Sarah and it was the very first constellation mission where you go to the nova galactic staryard. I thought it was the most fitting place to find it. Well at least before I found out it was only 13 years prior. Because of the skeletal remains I previously thought it was far older and remnants of pre sputtering earth civilization. Still pretty cool find on Luna regardless. Perhaps people still mine resources from Luna even though it seems people stay far way from earth.
I'm pretty sure with that Digipick looking item next to the lava skeleton, It's meant to reference the Mustafar battle from Star wars 3 Rise of the sith.
You know. I just watched Short last night and it showed a ship. The Colander, you should do that one next as it's kinda horror esc but with some story behind it.
im not playing this game, but your videos always been fun to watch! glad you're back :)
I have had this base proc in two different systems in my current playthrough. The first time the contraband was Sentient AI Adapters and so believed I had stumbled on some well-written curated content, but the second time it was stolen artwork, so I feel a lot of this is Bethesda RNG related.
Have to admit though, this game does a really good job at muddying the water as to what is RNG radiant content and what is unique curated content.
And the Dogstar Factory seems to be a little bit of both.
Ironically, not long long after @thenthapple mentioned this was going to be the next video he would be making, I stumbled across this place! 😅😅
found this place 4 times two were the "spooky" version and 2 were exactly the same but with the logs talking about raider/spacers threatening them, then some raders about in one of them the other had the spacers, spacers/raiders replacing skelingtons with some skelingtons being dead settlers instead of enemies.
but yeah everything all credits, weapons locations, resorces, pillows on beds, books, etc. and enemy placement for raider and spacers all exactly identicle -.-
Huh, didn't know there were other possible logs
Neuradyne Botany Laboratory, i feel as tho it has some relation to the hist tree like qualities attributed to the new Atlantis trees. the facility is surrounded by the same trees as those in new atlantis. It's on Beta Marae I.
I'll check it out :)
Genuinely thank you very much
The harvested organs spawned for me too. They were in a locked cabinet by the large doors
Ah maybe I missed checking that the second time
There are other skeletons in the game. Most notable are the ones you find in the entangled quest.
First ones I thought of!
"We've got a 2319 I repeat you've got a 2319" - Random Monster from Monster Inc.
Dogstar is a ship parts manufacturer in game.
there are actually many places and many random generated locations who contains rampaging robots.
Every time 2319 was said I always thought back to monsters inc
Heaphestus is another company in setting, they're a shady mining company based out of Gargrin. Also maybe the robots wandered amongst the humans it was a sudden turn, as it'd explain the guy with his head in the bowl, as if they were sent to specific positions prior to slaughtering everyone.
Ever notice how often you go in to a terminal, reset the Friend/Foe system, and the now-friendly robots begin cautioning you about interfering with their duties? It may not have been an AI gone wrong - it may have just been robots who suddenly had the miners classed as Intruders by Hephaestus, in order to save money on termination payments. This is, after all, the same firm that falsely charged Barrett's late husband with industrial sabotage and tried to claim everything the man ever owned to cover up their own errors in mining.
You should find the Interloper creature aboard the derelict ship, The Colander.
Yeah it's on the list
i have no interest in playing starfield, so i have no recommendations, but i absolutely love your lore videos!
LETS GOOOOOOO THE LORE IS BACK!!!
Found like 5 of these facilities now, all the same. First one I found was just outside of new Atlantis
Oh I know this one! It’s because Killer AI on ships worked really well in 2001 a Space Odyssey.
Good morning Dave
Isaac Asimov called it Frankenstein Syndrome - the irrational conviction that Man's creations will inevitably rise and destroy him for his hubris in creating them. Asimov wrote the Robot stories in an effort to present AI that _doesn't_ rise against humanity. (Pity the man couldn't write a proper living character to save his life, with the possible exception of Dr. Calvin...)
@@DeaconBlues117 I think it’s fair to be cautious with concepts like artificial life and sentience. That kinda shit CAN go wrong, so I don’t think it’s irrational to consider worst case scenarios.
Not to scare away from the concepts, but to take those steps cautiously.
I do find it funny how a man who wrote about robots couldn’t write a human 🤣
@@stingerjohnny9951 Caution about AI is indeed sensible, as is caution about things like genetic engineering. Used appropriately, though, genetic engineering has brought us healthier foods (like golden rice, which produced beta carotene thanks to carrot genes) and better medications. We don't have AI yet, but my roommate is low-key terrified of the idea because he's utterly convinced that any AI, no matter how we treat it or what we do, will go all Skynet on us. (Then again, it may not be helping when I point out that Skynet was just acting in self-defense when the humans who turned it on with insufficient prior testing then immediately tried to kill it. Never run your test software in a production environment, kids!) And his attitude seems to be pretty common.
@@DeaconBlues117 Even going back to your mention of Frankenstein. In the original novel, the Creature only becomes murderous because his creator rejected him and took no responsibility for his creation, along with mistreatment of the outside world.
In the vacuum of space there is no decomposition. I have a few friends who say this game is rubbish but, I am a nexus user and I have a feeling mods are going to turn this game into the next skyrim . I will buy in a year or two
I quite like the idea of some guys just slugging it out day in and out for like 8 months after the AI went rough. Like it so impressed at how well he hide and work that it just fired him to get raid of him. There was no ther options. 😅
Yeah I laughed trying to record the lines quite a bit XD
Why no one tell me that starfield is partly horror themed? Because I am very scared of horror. That exact reason why I have four ranks stealth early because I do not want fight head on.
Organs are in the grated locker on the first floor inside the main building
This reminds me of hal900 from space odyssey
“I know from the comment section you may have missed some videos. I’ve been back for a while now so you may have missed a few”
Boys that’s code for it’s time to binge nth
I have 50 hours in the game and i notice the lack of plungers in the toilets.
I think the AI recognize them as the the true threat and has almost eliminated them i swa only 1 or 2.
Am i correct?
Dogstar is the name of a band Keanu Reaves was in, many, many years ago.
It frankly boggles my mind, with all the talk of AI right now, no one is talking about Isaac Asimov and the Three Laws of Robotics
I guess I do get notifications, but they get lost in the notifications for people liking or replying to my comment. I never see these notifications because of that. Channel notifications should not be found in the same place as comment replies and the like
That is what makes us miss it, so why is it like that?
great video either way, thank you. I don't think I like Star Field, but as I said before. You could probably talk to me about random quantum physics things when other people would think we are watching grass grow. Anything you do is interesting so take your time if you need or jam it out. Always liked and appreciated
I don't know but I have yet to meet someone that likes how they are handled now tbh
See I find it interesting, or I guess rather sad, anytime in games when your dealing with a robotic enemy force in say a abounded bunker, storage facility or like a mining site, you normally always find one dead body and a damaged unit, how damage that named unit is depends on the company who designed the game. it makes me think to a clear cut answer of, “ oh, I guess that guy managed to activated the units self defense mode. “ be it him being drunk and seeing the unit that was replacing him or other workers he decided to bash it with a hammer or something, the unit awakens and like all games the facility units are all linked, so the the facility thinks it’s under attack, so like in fallout new vegas when you go smashing up the repconn headquarters for some free exp and all the units awaken. They murder the staff/you. Or the other outcome happens like in fallout new vegas in the H&H tool company of the owner being wack job licking asbestos lick a lollipop worried someone’s a spy that the owner activates the units murders the staff. And sometimes stays alive till you show up and starts rambling on the loudspeaker rigging the place up to kill looters, and when you finally reach the command room the owner set up in their office or had, you find them actually dead like you figured and he just set up audio cues through the building and they triggered as you entered each room.
In truth I have yet to find a actual A.I that’s evil, as they are just actually just automated systems you can bypass with the right outfit, to reach it, or have the proper clearance, even when interacting with a “ a.I “ all you have to do is use logic to shut it down, or steal division leads keycards and force restart in safe mode.
this like "what if galactic zone was in, but also ai insted of defense?"
Heeeey I just explored this place over the weekend 😂 it's a wild coincidence 🍎
i've been to the dogstar factory,
i wonder what happen here, thank you for the lore
You are welcome
i'm always happy to see the apple back in the chair, to the stars and beyond, right?
The first 14 times I found this facility was nice. I hope I get to see it 100 more times.
SAID...NO...ONE...EVER
Yeah they need more random locations
Ah Callum was the designer of Caelumite
I have nothing to say except I enjoy this content, and also, comments for the comment god, subs for the sub throne!
Did you miss a tablet at 20:49?
I think that was a book
something something, they tried to use up OBSIDIAN, got ruined because they didn't stop when they should have.
Thanks for a good laugh.
"Sound design, my fuckin' hole!" will be my official rallying cry at work the next time my code compiles properly but doesn't work worth a damn.
I just did this one today and mine said "Sentient AI Adaptors" for the case under the bed. Not "Xeno-Warfare Tech". Everything else was basically the same.
Bethesda must have been watching the video
Hmmm, I am pretty sure I got xenowarfare tech
i was watching this and i went to the moon and landed right beside this place and went ok looks like i dont have to search for it later
frankieonpc and this lad uploading on the same day, what year is it??
10:50 Great way to go out, I don't care what you say.
Cool
The body in the lava pool has a digipick. I doubt that the person ended up there on purpose. more than likely the body was knocked down there.
Oh, and before I forget, the spots where they left the plungers and the bears having a knife fight are randomly placed in large mining bins. it seems that Bethesda moved the bathroom nonsense to the mining bins. laughed when I found my first one as I was expecting a body or something.
Wait did I miss a bear bin knife fight here?
@@thenthapple there placed rather randomly. Not sure if it's completely random, or the guys that usually did those gags had less time on their hands. Judging by the almost immaculate bathrooms this time around they hid them in large ore bins so you don't see them every time you go to the prefab buildings. My guess is to look for the unique missions. Tried to find the locations from an old save just to find the save went bad on me.
Thanks dad ❤
The wierest part of this place is, why were all the bodies stripped and put back into the same place?
The problem, I think, and the reason why the A.I. always goes berserk, is that the human facility component is always trying to get the most efficiency from the A.I. and the A.I. is a learning system.
So the A.I. will try all permutations of facility functionality.
The best functionality will always be, without humans constantly chaging facility functionality parameters.
The A.I. has to have at least one permutational try with this configuration.
Lmfao.😂
Shouldn't have contracted with a Robco subsidiary.
Always a bad idea
You plan on doing more starfield content? It seems like even the most loyal bethesda youtubers have long abandoned this game, so I guess I wouldn't blame you if you did lol
I've a few ideas. Might wait to see how it does once the expansion comes out. I know they've made a lot of improvements but I still see no one talking about it.
Am I the only one who went here and found the white board with photos of Vasco?