BUG Match Pickelhaube Edition: German 1883 Reichsrevolver
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Today I took a Model 1883 Reichsrevolver out to the monthly BackUp Gun Match. This is an 1894-manufactured gun (made at the Erfurt Arsenal). It is a single action only, six-shot revolver chambered for the 10.6mm German Ordnance cartridge. The first type of Reichsrevolver was adopted by the young German Empire in 1879, with the significantly shortened model here adopted in 1883. Both models do also have manual safety levers - unusual for revolvers - but that wasn't relevant to the match today. These revolvers were front-line German service handguns until replaced by the Luger starting in 1908.
For more details on the revolver, check out my full videos here:
Model 1879: • Model 1879 Reichsrevolver
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"1st of 1 in Revolver Division"
That cracked me up
This is the first win he has racked up? Congrats on the win Ian!
Not actually too bad either, for what he was working with.
He still managed to beat eight people - you have to wonder what they were like.
Success is all about setting parameters.
@@AshleyPomeroy They were using FP45 Liberators
@@AshleyPomeroy Yeah, it has to be *embarrassing* to lose to someone using a single action revolver with bad ergonomics when you're shooting a modern automatic pistol.
Do not show that helmet to your french guns !
@@davidcarr7436 nah, wrong war
@@MikJ132 My grandad was born in 1922, he still called germans "casques à pointe" (Pointy helmets) until he died, well into the third millenium, those helmets made quite an impression on us obviously.
Look up Verdun . @@davidcarr7436
Oh, some germans in border region call the frenchmen still today ,Wackes/ Wagges'.
or beligian
13 guys went home having to tell they lost from a guy in a pickelhaube shooting a 130 year old revolver.
That's really good (and true).
I would need several stiff drinks after that myself.
Not just that. A 130 year old revolver that was already outdated by the time it was introduced (most revolvers in service then were triple actions)!
@@maximmachinegun7206can you tell me the difference between double action and triple action, please? I’m curious
They still lost the war(s)
Welcome to another episode of
"Vergessene Handfeuerwaffen".
Let me show you its features!
Vergessene Waffen! Sidenote Wappen means Coat of Arms.
Bienvenido a un nuevo episodio de "Armas olvidadas". Yo soy Iago Macarra..........................¡Oleeeeeeeeeeé!
@@brittakriep2938 Nein! I think "Vergessene Handfeuerwaffen" sounds better, as it is longer. Maybe even "In Vergessenheit geratene Handfeuerwaffen" 🤣
@@tau4333😭😭😂😂😂🤣🤣💀
19th-century guns don't stress the reload speed because you'll have to wait for the smoke to clear anyway.
After emptying the revolver draw your sword. Swords never need reloading.
Bajonet it is then.
"Remember: switching to your saber is always faster than reloading."
@@thealmightyaku-4153 or look around, can you form some sort of rudimentary lathe...
Generating cover while laying down fire
Imagine someone that doesn't know who Ian is showing up for the match seeing someone running around in a pointy helmet, yelling German words, and firing an ancient revolver. 🤣
And when you ask about it, they'll answer; "never mind, that's just the Gun Jesus doing Gun Jesus things".
Any Frenchmen would lose their collective baguettes... ;-)
I would be like I have found my people after wandering the NPC wilderness.
Just Arizona being Arizona. :)
@@ZGryphon have been considering moving from somewhere in the hills and hollers of East TN to the desert but not Calistan for a variety of reasons. This puts another plus in the AZ column.
Hearing Ian shout german is just the funniest thing ever.
That was whispering, not shouting
Especially the german sounding nonsensical stuff.
Die Bratwurst ist so vergänglich wie eine Welle im Meer oder zwei Kirschblüten im Wind, das lächeln deiner liebsten im Sonnenschein darum nie den Senf vergessen zur Bratwurst! 😉
And the range judge: "ready to fire" - "Ja" - " LOSS!"
@@Gurkenkasper Was soll da heißen, dass meine Bratwurst vergänglich ist? Die wird man noch in tausend Jahren finden!
"Yah, das ist gooten shuhten!"
-Ian McCollum, 2024
I think I'll need that on a t-shirt. 🤣
A/ The guys at H and K are probably ahead of you.
B/ theyve probably sent Ian a stiffly worded letter with spelling and grammar corrections underlined in red. Possibly with the umlauts included!
JA, DAS IST GUTES SCHIEßEN
I wonder what people say when you show up on the range. "Hey, what funny guns do you have with you today.. and whats up with that strange helmet?"
Watching him convinced me to buy a couple reproduction WWI British hats. Yeah, we will get strange looks....:)
Regulars probably place bets beforehand on what gun(s), hat(s), uniform(s), accessories etc. he will bring to any given match.
I know I would.
Pretty much what I was gonna say!
Did I hear somebody shout "Los!" ?
yes you did. .cracked me up.
Bet when Ian shows up, the organisers go "what the hell has he brought today!!"
I think these days, they're only shocked when he brings something approaching a normal backup gun.
Pretty much
Mae Winchester: *angry noises
Ian is such a francophile that he followed his “willkommen” with an “á” as if he said “Bienvenue.”
In the 1970s movie ,Cabaret' , the story plays in Berlin a short time Hitler became Chancellor, the Conferencier (Host?) of a Cabaret/ Variete show speaks at the start of show: Herzlich Willkommen, bien venue! Perhaps Ian knows this movie.
Jawohl, das war gutes Schießen!
Schießen ( shooting) and scheißen ( shitting) - something flies away.!
Contratulations on getting 1st place in revolver division! (while being the only one in that division)
Don't cloud the issue with relevant facts. :D
No need for that, there's plenty of smoke from that black powder ammo.
I've done this two or three times at USPSA
very unfair to say what is fair. What are u? A fairy?
@@stephend4909 Only on weekends when the sun is out.
Our man out here shooting his only box of ammo for a BUG match for us.
The german accent until the Scottish "Shootin" 😂
I love how the ROs were getting into the roleplay as the match went on. Having fun at the range, what a rare thing to see in an RO.
Its the same RO you see in almost every one of these videos. The guy definitely knows Ian by now lol
The people that put on the match’s do a nice job while letting you film for us. So thank you
Watching Ian dash around the course in that helmet is peak entertainment. 😆
More a spike than a peak really
@@micuu1 oh you're good.
We see you.
You're good.. Give you that one for sure! Nice.
Spoilers: He wins the match.
You always win if you show up in quality Larp.
@@tsufordman and wen your the only one in your class
Yes, he won the antique black powder revolver division.
The cylinder axis pin was supposed to be used for pushing out the empty casings but they were usually carried with a separate rod so as to skip disassembly for reloading like Mr. McCollum did. It was also considered a secondary weapon to one’s sword during its service.
Which means this revolver was indeed a BUG. To the sword.
@@richwhitaker1506 Absolutely, I imagine depending on the era or type of unit could be any one of these handsome looking blades;
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@@richwhitaker1506 NO honourable man would impugn his dignity by turning up to a gun fight with anything but a knife. Would you? Bah!
@@stephend4909 "Ishn't that jusht like a 19th shentury German, bringsh a knife to a gun fight!"
Did they not have lances?
Gut gemacht.
I think the organisers always look forward to seeing Ian pull up, rubbernecking to see what what kind of insanity he's bringing now to the competition.
Kind of is a back up gun since it was meant to be used with a saber as your main weapon.
the amount of smoke is a sight to behold! epic
They need to add a saber segment of the match to go with these old revolvers.
Tell me You are a post apocalyptic warlord without telling me...
Ians helmet and hair:
Tune in for the next episode of Forgotten Weapons, where Ian unexpectedly travels through Belgium to get into France...
In Germany you sometimes still see sometimes men with such helmets. In some towns socalled , Historische Bürgerwehren ' exist. Up to about 1850 this had really been militias, but today they are pure ceremonial tradition keepers, wearing historical uniforms, appearing at historical/ Events and parades.
Do the other competitors do a sweepstake about what weirdness Ian will be bringing?
They probably hurt too much for rational thought.
Some rando in the background collecting his winnings for guessing right.
I feel like we need an update on Ian's hat/helmet collection
You have to love a gun where you can run a stage more quickly than you can unload and show clear :D
Willkommen bei Vergessenen Waffen
*vergessene Waffen
It was a long time since I learned German. I thought "bei" required the dative case of vergessen.
@@skrymerU That's true normally (I think, haven't thought about formal rules in a long time), but "Vergessene Waffen" in this case is the name of a thing and doesn't change its case.
@@tellur808 ok, make sense.
Bei vergessenen Waffen is in some context correct. In this context: ....bei , Vergessene Waffen'. would be also correct , because ,.....' is refering to the channels name Forgotten Weapons', while vergessenen Waffen refers to some somehow lost weapons.
"Show CLEAR"
*range officer achieves retirement before 6th shell extracted*
what a cool experience it must be to shoot an actual antique firearm. thanks for sharing!
2:38 The Guy saying "Standby ... LOS!" caught me off Guard.
Seems to be an amazing Match to take part in where everybody got a Sense of Humor.
Makes me feel less nervous once i go take part in some Matches in the USA as a German. Apparently i can even wear my Great Grandpas Pickelhaube!
Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
Love how in the second round the official yelled: "los!"
Ausgezeichnet! Danke Ian!
BUG matches are some of my favorite videos
I feel the same... and was able to track down the Match Director and get his approval to recreate the match down here in Australia (Although given OUR laws it is more of a "Safe Queen" match than a true BUG one..) He generously provided the "Rules/Divisions" and the scoring methods. Lots of fun! People enjoy being given a place to shoot a structured match with an otherwise unused gun. Our most exotic arrivals however have just been my 1912 Steyr Hahn, and a friends (gorgeous) C96 Mauser....
Ja das ist gut !
Nicht nur gut, sondern sehr gut
"Ready? Los!"
I love how the BUG match buddies go along with Ian's silliness
Best intro ever!
That was impeccable.
AUCH EINEN GUTEN MORGEN AN SIE, HERR KOMMANDANT!
2:30
The funny thing about this yelling is that there were Not a single german word besides „Ja“,“Ich“ and „bin“😂😂😂💀
Sehr Gut
Herrvorrragend!!
Range safety is very important, glad to see Ian wearing his helmet.
Vintage Warfare: “I feel a disturbance in the force!”
The single-action mechanism and the 10.6mm German Ordnance cartridge add an authentic feel to the experience.
Thank you for the moments of levity. The folks at the range have such a great sense of humor as they put up with the antics competing with such an outdated revolver in modern competition. The helmet just adds to the fun tone of it all.
From the sounds those targets stayed HIT!😵
"[The sights] are not very forgiving of rushing"
... or Russians.
The picklehaube and the gas attack brought flash backs to the trenches....that's a damn nice helmet, I assume it's part of your personal collection.
Pickelhaube ( literally pickaxehood) was a popular nickname . Official name was simply Helm mit Spitze/ helmet with point. To prevent accidents, gunners had a ball.
It's kind of amazing that someone approved this design 10 years after the Colt SAA...
This is 10 years after Smith & Wesson Model 3. Sure, some Yanks have made a revolver that ejects all the rounds at the same time for quick and simple reload, but true Teutonic warriors need not such mechanical assistance. Or even ejection rods...
Especially as the SAA was already obsolescent when it entered service.
When in 1871 Second German Empire was founded, standard pistol was prussian M50 muzzleloader smoothbore percussion pistol, 15 mm caliber. In those german states, being in 1866 enemies of prussia ( Bavaria, Saxony, Württemberg, Baden and Hessen - Darmstadt) surely also rifled percussion pistols in austrian 13,9 mm existed. But only Bavaria had in 1869 decided, to buy centerfire 11,5 mm Werder rifles, carbines and pistols , all singleshot. When in 1870 war broke out neutral Belgium stopped trading firearms to Bavaria, only few bavarian soldiers had Werder weapons. After war, Mauser M71 became first german sevice rifle. Transforming Werder guns for 11mm Mauser was not good, so Bavaria canceled buying belgian weapons. A large number of carbines had been transformed into pistols, the rifles ( as noted only a part of ordered rifles came to Bavaria) was given to forrestry, prison, customs personal. In Saxony in 1872 or 1874 a strange Revolver in 10,4 mm was introduced, an enlarged S&W Nr. 1 or 2! Caused troubles with German Gouvernement, in Bavaria not , for reason of a bavarian privilege. But when Mauser offered a Revolver , german army decided, to create an own Revolver, the M79 was the result, the M83 the improvement. For test reason, a few Colt SAAs in 10,6 Deutsche Ordonnanz had been bought. The testing soldiers and officers said: A good Revolver! But for reason of either money or national pride, the german Army invention was bought. In german navy the Reichsrevolver replaced Colt Navy and british Adams Percussion revolvers in .36. Was in Prussia called.35, because english inch ( Zoll) is 25,4 mm, while prussian Zoll ( inch) was 26,2 mm. Handle of Reichsrevolver M79 had similar size and shape as M50 pistol.
It's kind of amazing that the Colt SAA is such a popular firearm even though the much more practical S&W Model 3 is 3 years older.
Congratulations on getting 1st in the Revolver division! All that hard work finally paid off. 😆
(Oompah band music intensifies)
Well, you weren’t the first, but you weren’t the wurst.
Great to see that a 19th c revolver can still compete. By the way, “backup gun” in German is Ersatzpistole. So this was an EP Wettbewerb.
We call this VOLKSMUSIK around here, Kamerad
eeeh semantically Reservewaffe would probably be a better translation, since Ersatz moreso refers to a replacement
Ian should make a short with Preußens Gloria March im Hintergrund.
March! In württembergian region of Germany the Gaisburger March is very popular, it is a dish of boiled beef, Bouillon, potstoes and Spätzle noodles.
As a German I would so love to see more intros in German!
The fact that custom, 19th century, black power, foreign rounds are manufactured commercially in Florida just makes me love this country.
For me, as a german, it is very funny to hear you talk german (and not too bad, i admit) - I think its a good thing to make a little fun of each other (for example german vs american) i still see some respect for the other side in this. At least, one tries to think or talk like the other one, and to try to keep yourself in perspective of other people or countries, at least can help to understand each other. (excuse my english, as i said, i am german, and its been a long time since school... :) )
I’m honestly impressed with how “accurate” that revolver is. I have a bunch of 19th century military revolvers and the sights are at best a suggestion.
Using two hands? For shame.
It takes two hands to handle this revolver......
Love watching these with extreme vintage weapons!. Amazing to see how well they all perform being 100+ years old.
Old revolvers like that were intended to be used one handed, which could explain why it was hitting your thumb when shooting it with both hands.
Wow! Not too shabby in those last stages!
I finally found a use for a BIC pen!
Museum curator: this 130 year old piece is a delicate object of art and may only be handled by trained professionals with vivid gloves.
Ian: BANG BANG, this gun is fun to shoot
Love seeing this stuff! These old guns dont deserve to sit in a case for the rest of their days!
05:53 nice to hear that that particular gun was manufactured in my Hometown 🙂
Legend says that if any german hears Ian speaking german, he will instandly grow a mustache.
Appreciate the morning video......one of my Favorites !!!!!
In the introduction Ian says the revolver isn't really a backup gun, but everything about it screams that it was never intended to be anyone's primary weapon.
That’s so cool!! Thanks for sharing!!
The whole German shenanigans were hilarious. Loved the sound of the shots.
Ian running at you in a hoodie, picklehelm and revolver is what really scares me.
FACT Black powder also has the extra benefit of a huge smoke screen with every shot fired
"okay, unload and show clear"
"Hold on, I gotta get my unloading tool"
I love Ian! This content is unmatched
Your videos are always entertaining, but when you're showing anything German related it seems to become a step above, really cool and they seem to be experts in making cool stuff 👍
The German lines, even though I'm not a German speaker, sounded pretty cool as well and the language itself sounds really cool
The long ones were "fractured" German, made up silly sentences, but the short ones were legitimate German.
@dinsdalemontypiranha4349 I was able to pick up a few things he said, and I figured as much about his German not being perfect, since German is an incredibly difficult language to learn. To me it's probably the coolest sounding language, and I've tried to learn, but I'm probably to old for it now lol
Another very entertaining bug match with a bonkers pistol to play with . Lovely 👍🏴
That thing has a pretty assertive sound!
And this kids, is why you should always have a revolver tucked away somewhere as a backup gun. A well built (and stored) revolver will last you several lifetimes and you dont have to worry about magazines.
I love this content, Ian. Please keep it up!
The smoke and the bang on that revolver.
"Unload and show clear!", "Give me five minutes..."
That was great! I really enjoyed this one!!! Thanks for using an antique German pistol.
Early squad on it
The BUG range officers must be the nicest and most patient of humans. Putting aside the bad German, they put up with the weirdest variations from the standard safety rules for Ian.
Ja, das war guten shooten! The Pickelhaube worked! 😉
Why stop at the helmet you should have went with full military garb of that era!!! 🤠👍
"I'm sorry sir, but on this range it's full cosplay or no cosplay."
I missed Ian speaking German in combination with the Pickelhaube so much! 😊
Das war sehr witzig, danke für das unterhaltsame Video Ian, mach weiter so.
Imagine all the obscure brass he leaves behind.
I think that's the first time I have seen Ian get 1st in his division. I mean, he always brings some weird gun, so it hardly reflects his shooting. But I mean, who would have thought first place in revolver division with an 1883 Reichsrevolver! Good job Ian!
Love this!
Remember when Ian made a film about the recoilless rifle? I’m frankly disappointed we haven’t seen that in a BUG…
Now that was a fun one.
Would this revolver have seen action in WW1??
Sure did, officially retired in 1908 due to adoption of the Luger but as the war dragged on older weapons like the Reichsrevolver were taken out of storage and put back into service with rear echelon troops.
That's an impressive pickel.
I can only imagine a forensic lab trying to sort out a really oddball projectile or casing from something like this.
after going to firearm shows for over 50 years, I finally saw one for the first time at $1,000....nice condition too...