The link below is the original video that led to this final chapter in the NO MELTDOWN DEBATE,,,, DIESEL HEATER BATTERY IS A WASTE OF TIME! Switch to a power supply th-cam.com/video/1XJznt7F76U/w-d-xo.html Give us a subscribe if you liked it and check out the playlist
I can confirm your result. I have 2 Vevor heaters and 2 times the power switched off. They do smoke like hell (especially the air inlet for the engine), but they are both fine. I was pretty confused when I opened the cap to cool down the motherboard, because the motherboard wasn't warm at all... Thanks for the video! I thought I was just lucky, but apparantly it's just a myth. Now I don't have to freak out if the power switches off.
Absolutely my friend,,, there’s an awful lot of nonsense talked about around these simple heaters, there’s so little to go wrong on the mechanical side and I’ve never had a problem with a motherboard,,,, just pure un evidenced so called experts speculating,,,,, cheers buddy
I think what helps in your situation is the hot air outlet is pointing up, acting like a chimney. So when you kill the power there is a natural draft created pulling cool air into the heater. The control board inside it located near the cold air intake. If your hot air outlet was pointing down, then the hot air could start to create a draft out of the cold air intake past the control board and could cause the control board to get baked over time. I have seen videos of melted control boards, so it is a thing that can happen. If your air intake and outlet were on the same level then it would probably have very little draft and the control board would also be unhappy long term. I would expect the capacitors life expectancy to be diminished if they are regularly getting baked.
And there I was worrying about power cuts, seems I can finally stop thinking of batteries😁 For the record, I am in a room with a diesel heater running on paraffin, 2 stroke oil and normal engine oil, seems to work anyhows😁
@STTC Already got one and the heater has been working for a few years but needed a glow plug after 1 year, seems easy to fix though. As a side note, it's better with a power pack set to at least 13V for the glow plug, it struggles to ignite if too low.
Well spotted, I was trying to rig up a light to display when it’s on from outside the shed,,,,,lol,,,,, it remains hanging there unsuccessful but a relic of my inventive mind of years gone by,,,, probably been there 4 years
Are you mad.. this is unbelievable.... I have 6 backup batteries.. 2 solar panels and a hamster on a wheel as a backup... What was the delivery.. a spare diesel heater from your Amazon wishlist lol .. good video mate ...
@STTC fyi I made my power supply out of an old 15a xbox 360 power pack, easy mod to do and only cost a few quid off car boot 😉 I run no battery at home ether, never any issues when power goes ether 👍
@STTC 🤣 of course they are, but we're the stupid ones still I'm sure! up to them what they do as it is for us also, I do me, you do you, I hope they can still do them, simples! 😉 tic tic boom 💥🤯🫨 oooops 😂😂😂 like you said tho mate it's 60 bucks end of day, if it was 1500 or whatever I'd be more worried I guess, long as she don't go bang while I got my balls toasting by it I'm not fussed 🙈🤔 famous last words 😂 👊
Haha... Yes, I have killed the power to my heater several times, both on purpose and accidentally. The only time I had anything bad happen was once I was doing a waste oil burning experiment, I had the burner up to 271C and was using a secondary combustion air source. The fan stopped, but the combustion kept going and it melted the fan. The electronics, and everything else was fine. My situation was extreme as they normally shut down WAY before 270C, and when the fan stops, that normally cuts all combustion air. They take a long time to cool off, but nothing gets damaged. I'm saying all of this before watching your video, so I'll dot hat now. EDIT: Done watching. Well done. I to have done my fair share of myth busting. Funny thing though.... people who lie in their thumbnail and titles / people who are dramatic "DON"T DO THIS" "THIS COULD BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN" .... they get rewarded with a lot more views haha. A thumbnail with " $100 heater - 200% EFFICIENCY" gets you 800k views.
I thought that the rundown was just to clear the heater of unburnt fuel. Glad to know that my shed won't burn down if I was powerless at anytime though.
yeah i guess in this case the heater was all good, ive seen before tho the impeller look quite melted, it still ran fine but heat can go the wrong way back through the intake. alot has to do with how the exhaust is shaped, if it goes straight down, when you turn it off the residual heat will rise, kinda 'blowing back' hot air into the heater and possibly unburned diesel smoke too. The other thing is when in shutdown it might help burn off carbon deposits, especially black carbon, but youll still have to clear it out at some point so guess it aint really an issue. not sure on your exhaust setup but i guess yours goes up, allowing the heat and fuel vapour to leave like it normally would
when you switch one of these heaters off without letting it go through the cool down cycle you are shotening the life of the electronic components on the heaters main board ie the electrolytic capacitors which are rated around 100 degrees c maximum , when you switch the heater off the fan stops and the temperature of the aluminium heater body can be way above the 100c and will dry out those capacitors.
Yes, that’s never been in question really,,,, and the full video explains why you shouldn’t shut down without the cooling cycle,,, the point of the video was to demonstrate they don’t burst into flames or meltdown
@@STTC I have used one of these on a boat for years , if the heater becomes full of unburnt fuel sometimes the exhaust can glow orange due to it burning off and it can be very scary , the cooling cycle can also reduce this by blowing air through the exhaust to cool it as it is shutting down.
I don't understand what they meaning having a meltdown🤔, what about the ones fitted in trucks they just switch them on / off, but i dont have one so i don't know much about them
Theres a shutdown cycle where the fan keeps blowing when the fuel stops, so it cools Nev,,,,,,I demonstrate that if you skip this cycle they don’t burst into flames or meltdown, a lot of people said they do,,,, obviously I don’t recommend not having a battery backup to make sure there’s a cool down cycle instead of a complete stop if the 240v power cut ever occurred
Have you taken the heater apart to see what this lack of cool air is doing to the internal plastic components? Pictures or a teardown video would be nice :) Also, another video with the outlet pointed down might be more interesting.
The link below is the original video that led to this final chapter in the NO MELTDOWN DEBATE,,,, DIESEL HEATER BATTERY IS A WASTE OF TIME! Switch to a power supply
th-cam.com/video/1XJznt7F76U/w-d-xo.html Give us a subscribe if you liked it and check out the playlist
I can confirm your result. I have 2 Vevor heaters and 2 times the power switched off. They do smoke like hell (especially the air inlet for the engine), but they are both fine. I was pretty confused when I opened the cap to cool down the motherboard, because the motherboard wasn't warm at all...
Thanks for the video! I thought I was just lucky, but apparantly it's just a myth. Now I don't have to freak out if the power switches off.
Absolutely my friend,,, there’s an awful lot of nonsense talked about around these simple heaters, there’s so little to go wrong on the mechanical side and I’ve never had a problem with a motherboard,,,, just pure un evidenced so called experts speculating,,,,, cheers buddy
I think what helps in your situation is the hot air outlet is pointing up, acting like a chimney. So when you kill the power there is a natural draft created pulling cool air into the heater. The control board inside it located near the cold air intake. If your hot air outlet was pointing down, then the hot air could start to create a draft out of the cold air intake past the control board and could cause the control board to get baked over time. I have seen videos of melted control boards, so it is a thing that can happen. If your air intake and outlet were on the same level then it would probably have very little draft and the control board would also be unhappy long term. I would expect the capacitors life expectancy to be diminished if they are regularly getting baked.
Interesting points raised
Yes, that's well possible. My hot air outlet is also pointing up. The motherboard did not feel hot at all when there was a power-cut.
@@tomasviane3844 No,,, it’s pretty much a myth to be honest
Great video Steve. That thumbnail was AWESOME also.
Cheers T-Bone, much appreciated
And there I was worrying about power cuts, seems I can finally stop thinking of batteries😁
For the record, I am in a room with a diesel heater running on paraffin, 2 stroke oil and normal engine oil, seems to work anyhows😁
Absolutely my friend,,,,, forget about batteries,,,, get a power supply lol,,, cheers for commenting
@STTC Already got one and the heater has been working for a few years but needed a glow plug after 1 year, seems easy to fix though.
As a side note, it's better with a power pack set to at least 13V for the glow plug, it struggles to ignite if too low.
Thanks for sharing
Cheers
at 1:28 what are them 2 extra wires for looks like going into the heater ?
Well spotted, I was trying to rig up a light to display when it’s on from outside the shed,,,,,lol,,,,, it remains hanging there unsuccessful but a relic of my inventive mind of years gone by,,,, probably been there 4 years
@@STTC i been looking into that same idea lol , like tap off fan to a relay to a light
@@jonwhite2706 Yep,,,, never got passed the thinking stage
How's she goin'? Neat test for the heater Steve. This heater sure is a handy thing eh. Thanks for this myth busting video! Take 'er easy!!
Cheers Mike
Are you mad.. this is unbelievable.... I have 6 backup batteries.. 2 solar panels and a hamster on a wheel as a backup... What was the delivery.. a spare diesel heater from your Amazon wishlist lol .. good video mate ...
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Brilliant comment Mick,,,, so funny
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All you need is a berry and funky mustache, and you'd be Jamie Hyneman :)
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cheers, that video was the bomb 😅 😂🤣
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@STTC fyi I made my power supply out of an old 15a xbox 360 power pack, easy mod to do and only cost a few quid off car boot 😉 I run no battery at home ether, never any issues when power goes ether 👍
@ Nice one, I note the scare mungerers are absent in the comments so far too
@STTC 🤣 of course they are, but we're the stupid ones still I'm sure! up to them what they do as it is for us also, I do me, you do you, I hope they can still do them, simples! 😉 tic tic boom 💥🤯🫨 oooops 😂😂😂 like you said tho mate it's 60 bucks end of day, if it was 1500 or whatever I'd be more worried I guess, long as she don't go bang while I got my balls toasting by it I'm not fussed 🙈🤔 famous last words 😂 👊
Haha... Yes, I have killed the power to my heater several times, both on purpose and accidentally.
The only time I had anything bad happen was once I was doing a waste oil burning experiment, I had the burner up to 271C and was using a secondary combustion air source. The fan stopped, but the combustion kept going and it melted the fan. The electronics, and everything else was fine.
My situation was extreme as they normally shut down WAY before 270C, and when the fan stops, that normally cuts all combustion air. They take a long time to cool off, but nothing gets damaged. I'm saying all of this before watching your video, so I'll dot hat now.
EDIT: Done watching. Well done. I to have done my fair share of myth busting. Funny thing though.... people who lie in their thumbnail and titles / people who are dramatic "DON"T DO THIS" "THIS COULD BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN" .... they get rewarded with a lot more views haha. A thumbnail with " $100 heater - 200% EFFICIENCY" gets you 800k views.
Lol, totally agree buddy, my days of clickbait are pretty much over, cheers for this great comment, much appreciated
I thought that the rundown was just to clear the heater of unburnt fuel. Glad to know that my shed won't burn down if I was powerless at anytime though.
Absolutely 👍🏻
You should start a myth buster channel Steve LOL 😂
+@gravelyman 🤣🤣🤣🤣
yeah i guess in this case the heater was all good, ive seen before tho the impeller look quite melted, it still ran fine but heat can go the wrong way back through the intake. alot has to do with how the exhaust is shaped, if it goes straight down, when you turn it off the residual heat will rise, kinda 'blowing back' hot air into the heater and possibly unburned diesel smoke too. The other thing is when in shutdown it might help burn off carbon deposits, especially black carbon, but youll still have to clear it out at some point so guess it aint really an issue. not sure on your exhaust setup but i guess yours goes up, allowing the heat and fuel vapour to leave like it normally would
Yeah it goes straight up,,,, cheers for commenting
Thanks for clearing that up ya myth buster
Cheers Rusty 👍🏻
when you switch one of these heaters off without letting it go through the cool down cycle you are shotening the life of the electronic components on the heaters main board ie the electrolytic capacitors which are rated around 100 degrees c maximum , when you switch the heater off the fan stops and the temperature of the aluminium heater body can be way above the 100c and will dry out those capacitors.
Yes, that’s never been in question really,,,, and the full video explains why you shouldn’t shut down without the cooling cycle,,, the point of the video was to demonstrate they don’t burst into flames or meltdown
@@STTC I have used one of these on a boat for years , if the heater becomes full of unburnt fuel sometimes the exhaust can glow orange due to it burning off and it can be very scary , the cooling cycle can also reduce this by blowing air through the exhaust to cool it as it is shutting down.
@ yeah agreed
Great video mate myth totally busted 👍👍👍👍
Cheers Alan,,,, the scare mungers won’t like this one!!!! totally busted
What is the power output of your power supply 12v and how many amps
10
@STTC thanks
thanks. remember to press a button to remove the dampening of the led screen.
Ahhhh yeah, good point
I don't understand what they meaning having a meltdown🤔, what about the ones fitted in trucks they just switch them on / off, but i dont have one so i don't know much about them
Theres a shutdown cycle where the fan keeps blowing when the fuel stops, so it cools Nev,,,,,,I demonstrate that if you skip this cycle they don’t burst into flames or meltdown, a lot of people said they do,,,, obviously I don’t recommend not having a battery backup to make sure there’s a cool down cycle instead of a complete stop if the 240v power cut ever occurred
Have you taken the heater apart to see what this lack of cool air is doing to the internal plastic components? Pictures or a teardown video would be nice :)
Also, another video with the outlet pointed down might be more interesting.
Lol,,,, no more videos
Eventually ecu will fail I've fixed 100s of these
How much is an ecu?