Enjoying the backcountry means getting stuck now and then! I spend allot time hunting, scouting and occasionally getting stuck! SELF RECOVERY is mandatory. This past Utah Deer Hunt we had rain, snow, mud and ice everyday! Slippery conditions and sliding into fences, trees, ruts and embankments was part of the journey. Snow chains on all four wheels wasn’t a guarantee you wouldn’t get stuck. Having recovery gear saved our asses often. Most trails were rocky, rutted or washed out. Getting down Game essential. 3 trucks and 4 hunters we went prepared and had filled tags great meat and dirty trucks. Helped others along the way! Loved your video.
I’m curious if you try airing down your tires first (assuming you’re not high centered)? Also, some cheap recovery boards from Amazon may be a lot easier than looking for railroad ties.
Yes, airing down is standard operating procedure as soon as we leave pavement. So, already aired down before being stuck. I've never had much luck with even very expensive name brand traction boards in these kind of situations. As soon as a tire starts to spin you just melt the knobs off or even melt through them. They have their place, and I can get them at a steep discount for the big name brand, but in my experience, they aren't worth carrying around.
Ultimately , some of us at least reach an age where doing that type stuff isnt important anymore. lol I had a high lift jack and all the accessories to go along with it. When you need it your really stuck as a rule. If there are trees nearby they work well in conjunction with a good winch. One more even more important thing to remember is that if the vehicle isnt locked up, you dont even have 4 wheel drive.
Well Dave, dont get the idea that im giving you advise, obviously you dont need any of that with the success you have with what you do. But that said, there are other ways to do many of the things we all do, and sometimes it pays to consider them. Shooting tripods can be a great thing to shoot from as you well know. That said not all guns are equal as for recoil, and that can make a big difference in how they perform, especially on follow up shots. Where we hunt the hills are covered with trees, some very large, so losing the deer in the scope due to recoil can be a disaster. It only has to move a few feet to become concealed from view behind trees. Another reason having a spotter is very important. Heavy bullets with large powder charges are essential for long range shots at larger animals. Since recoil cant be eliminated, the next best thing is to control it as much as possible in order to keep the gun on target or at least keep the target in the scope. That means allowing the gun to move, but only to the rear. If you would shoot a heavy recoil gun with the clamp type device like a triclawps you will see what i mean. Trust me when i say weve tried them all over the decades weve been doing this. Weve made quite a few of our own, some of which work pretty well, but always, recoil is the culprit as for staying on target. And shooting from a bench is the same, follow up shots can unravel everything. One would think that the better the tripod the better the results, and that is true, but only to a point. The best is a return to battery device that allows the gun to move with recoil, but only straight back, then right back on target, allowing for a very fast follow up shot or shots. We always single feed our guns, so that makes staying on target even more critical. Ball bearings or a Teflon type product work very well, probably the best. But the rests used on the ultimate tripod work pretty well also for controlling gun movement on recoil. Bungee cords can help as well, and we use them, especially on the ultimate tripod. You guys need more of a challenge due to your high level of success. And that would be with the rockchucks at much further distances. And for that you will need more gun, and bigger glasses on a tripod. IF your interested, send me an email and i will send some picks of things you might find usefull. Id recommend you start by going to the 24 Hour Campfire website. Then go to the home page. Then go to the archives section. Then look for an article entitled Big Eyes. Read that and compare it to what you are doing or could be doing.
Ernie, I agree with all of that! Something I have seen - would be hard to "miss" - with the Triclawps. Some rifles are sensitive to exactly where and how hard they are clamped into it. Effecting both zero and accuracy. Like everything else, needs to be tested for in advance. Man, I remember the Big Eyes! I have long, long been a fan of tripod mounting binoculars for long spotting sessions. Much prefer that to a spotting scope. Going way back to my spot and stalk mule deer archery hunting days. I think it was Dwight Schuh I first got the idea from. But anyway, I always wanted a set of Big Eyes, but never got it put together. I did use a set on a long range prairie dog shoot, many years ago. Pretty sure it was a pair of big Kowa spotting scopes that were used. Awesome piece of kit!
Enjoying the backcountry means getting stuck now and then! I spend allot time hunting, scouting and occasionally getting stuck! SELF RECOVERY is mandatory. This past Utah Deer Hunt we had rain, snow, mud and ice everyday! Slippery conditions and sliding into fences, trees, ruts and embankments was part of the journey. Snow chains on all four wheels wasn’t a guarantee you wouldn’t get stuck. Having recovery gear saved our asses often. Most trails were rocky, rutted or washed out. Getting down Game essential. 3 trucks and 4 hunters we went prepared and had filled tags great meat and dirty trucks. Helped others along the way! Loved your video.
Thank Robert!
I’m curious if you try airing down your tires first (assuming you’re not high centered)? Also, some cheap recovery boards from Amazon may be a lot easier than looking for railroad ties.
Yes, airing down is standard operating procedure as soon as we leave pavement. So, already aired down before being stuck. I've never had much luck with even very expensive name brand traction boards in these kind of situations. As soon as a tire starts to spin you just melt the knobs off or even melt through them. They have their place, and I can get them at a steep discount for the big name brand, but in my experience, they aren't worth carrying around.
Ultimately , some of us at least reach an age where doing that type stuff isnt important anymore. lol
I had a high lift jack and all the accessories to go along with it.
When you need it your really stuck as a rule.
If there are trees nearby they work well in conjunction with a good winch.
One more even more important thing to remember is that if the vehicle isnt locked up, you dont even have 4 wheel drive.
That truck had a rear locker, so 3 wheel drive, hahaha!
It's good to see you guys getting your exercise. 😂
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My surgically repaired knees gave out from just watching the video ! Great info nonetheless.
Too much of this is why I'll end up needing new ones myself!
All good points. That silt is the worst.
That silt is definitely the worst!
What was with all the plastic on the truck in the silt segment?
That's wreck wrap. Does an amazing job of keeping scratches off the paint.
Well Dave, dont get the idea that im giving you advise, obviously you dont need any of that with the success you have with what you do.
But that said, there are other ways to do many of the things we all do, and sometimes it pays to consider them.
Shooting tripods can be a great thing to shoot from as you well know.
That said not all guns are equal as for recoil, and that can make a big difference in how they perform, especially on follow up shots.
Where we hunt the hills are covered with trees, some very large, so losing the deer in the scope due to recoil can be a disaster.
It only has to move a few feet to become concealed from view behind trees. Another reason having a spotter is very important.
Heavy bullets with large powder charges are essential for long range shots at larger animals.
Since recoil cant be eliminated, the next best thing is to control it as much as possible in order to keep the gun on target or at least keep the target in the scope.
That means allowing the gun to move, but only to the rear.
If you would shoot a heavy recoil gun with the clamp type device like a triclawps you will see what i mean.
Trust me when i say weve tried them all over the decades weve been doing this.
Weve made quite a few of our own, some of which work pretty well, but always, recoil is the culprit as for staying on target.
And shooting from a bench is the same, follow up shots can unravel everything.
One would think that the better the tripod the better the results, and that is true, but only to a point.
The best is a return to battery device that allows the gun to move with recoil, but only straight back, then right back on target, allowing for a very fast follow up shot or shots.
We always single feed our guns, so that makes staying on target even more critical.
Ball bearings or a Teflon type product work very well, probably the best.
But the rests used on the ultimate tripod work pretty well also for controlling gun movement on recoil.
Bungee cords can help as well, and we use them, especially on the ultimate tripod.
You guys need more of a challenge due to your high level of success.
And that would be with the rockchucks at much further distances.
And for that you will need more gun, and bigger glasses on a tripod.
IF your interested, send me an email and i will send some picks of things you might find usefull.
Id recommend you start by going to the 24 Hour Campfire website.
Then go to the home page.
Then go to the archives section.
Then look for an article entitled Big Eyes.
Read that and compare it to what you are doing or could be doing.
Ernie, I agree with all of that! Something I have seen - would be hard to "miss" - with the Triclawps. Some rifles are sensitive to exactly where and how hard they are clamped into it. Effecting both zero and accuracy. Like everything else, needs to be tested for in advance.
Man, I remember the Big Eyes! I have long, long been a fan of tripod mounting binoculars for long spotting sessions. Much prefer that to a spotting scope. Going way back to my spot and stalk mule deer archery hunting days. I think it was Dwight Schuh I first got the idea from. But anyway, I always wanted a set of Big Eyes, but never got it put together. I did use a set on a long range prairie dog shoot, many years ago. Pretty sure it was a pair of big Kowa spotting scopes that were used. Awesome piece of kit!
Approximately how long are those angle iron pieces ? Thanks for the video.
About 3 feet.
You can skip the GYM that day
LoL!