Good setup, just had a couple of ideas on how to improve it - Switch to a copper vessel with insulation over it for the arc chamber, heat is beneficial for the reaction and will improve yield. - Use thick-walled, small diameter copper pipe as the electrodes and pump the air mix in via them, this cools the electrodes passively allowing a higher arc current - Add an oxidation chamber to convert unreacted NO into NO2. - More power! And now for the advanced changes lol - Enrich the intake air to a higher percentage of oxygen, nitrogen content slows the reaction down unless it's at a stoichiometric ratio. - Use an Ozone generator to feed both the oxidation chamber and the main chamber, ozone is more reactive and will improve NO to NO2 ratio!
@@Hampyumpy The oxidizing chamber is just a bottle or tube of either copper or glass, it just mixes the output of the arc chamber with fresh air, pure oxygen or Ozone to complete the reaction.
Very cool. Ive been struggling to keep the jacobs ladder going too. I finally set two magnets near it and this made it arc about 4x faster but when i came back 20 min later the ballast was dead 🥲 Now im trying to build either a zvs driver circuit or cobble together the original flyback circuit from the tv. I spent like 8 hours just getting the stupid ballast to drive it. Maybe im to dumb for this stuff. Lol
Honestly, a simple arc has been working flawlessly for me and produces just as much nitrogen dioxide. If you're trying to make nitric acid, you should just go with a simple arc. Unless you just want a Jacob's Ladder for the cool effect. I'm thinking of implementing a second neon sign transformer and have dual arcs to hopefully cut down nitric acid production time significantly. Stay tuned for version 4.0! 😀
@Hampyumpy Hi there! With a chart I found on google images. It states the specific weight per ml for every concentration level. For accuracy, I measure 10 ml and then divide by 10.
I mixed my acid 68% with some lite salt, cornstarch and brown sugar it turned red and then I left in a stainless steel sink outside overnight and it turned green and my sink had corroded slightly what happpend?
Stainless steel sinks (unless it’s specified) are made of the cheapest possible “stainless” steel and will not hold up to nitric acid. And by cheap, I mean price AND quality.
@@copperinquarter he means that you'll get a higher amount of NO2 if you pump air in as well using something like a fish tank airpump. The NO will convert to NO2 creating more acid when diffused through the water.
@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 There is an aquarium air pump pumping air. That's how the system works. It's the blue thing on the table under the arc chamber.
@@copperinquarter I should have been more specific, if you're getting significant NO generation you should increase the airflow to convert it to NO2. I think that's what he's getting at at least. Using peroxide in your collection chamber will increase your yield and a second chamber with water and sodium carbonate can make sure you're getting all of the nitrogen oxides.
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 The problem with increasing the airflow is NO doesn't have time to oxidize to N02 and would require a separate heated (to prevent NO2 from condensing into liquid form) oxidation chamber.
Good setup, just had a couple of ideas on how to improve it
- Switch to a copper vessel with insulation over it for the arc chamber, heat is beneficial for the reaction and will improve yield.
- Use thick-walled, small diameter copper pipe as the electrodes and pump the air mix in via them, this cools the electrodes passively allowing a higher arc current
- Add an oxidation chamber to convert unreacted NO into NO2.
- More power!
And now for the advanced changes lol
- Enrich the intake air to a higher percentage of oxygen, nitrogen content slows the reaction down unless it's at a stoichiometric ratio.
- Use an Ozone generator to feed both the oxidation chamber and the main chamber, ozone is more reactive and will improve NO to NO2 ratio!
Thanks for the suggestions, and thanks for watching!
Yeah, all that NO is a PITA for this procedure.
Heat also drives the decomposition for NO2 back to nitrogen and oxygen.
How would you suggest i add an oxidizing chamber? How would it work?
@@Hampyumpy The oxidizing chamber is just a bottle or tube of either copper or glass, it just mixes the output of the arc chamber with fresh air, pure oxygen or Ozone to complete the reaction.
Hi! Great job! What is the HF power supply for your system? Is it DIY or some part of an device?
Hi there, it's a 10KV neon sign transformer purchased from Amazon.
@@copperinquarter Thanks. Good luck in your experiments! Your subscriber from Russia.
@@warcrimesofukraine1720 Thank you for watching!
Very cool. Ive been struggling to keep the jacobs ladder going too. I finally set two magnets near it and this made it arc about 4x faster but when i came back 20 min later the ballast was dead 🥲
Now im trying to build either a zvs driver circuit or cobble together the original flyback circuit from the tv. I spent like 8 hours just getting the stupid ballast to drive it. Maybe im to dumb for this stuff. Lol
Honestly, a simple arc has been working flawlessly for me and produces just as much nitrogen dioxide. If you're trying to make nitric acid, you should just go with a simple arc. Unless you just want a Jacob's Ladder for the cool effect.
I'm thinking of implementing a second neon sign transformer and have dual arcs to hopefully cut down nitric acid production time significantly. Stay tuned for version 4.0! 😀
@@copperinquarterwell thats gonna be next level! Subbed and Looking forward to see this v4
Amazing! Thats a very nice setup, whats the production rate?
About 1.5 liters of 20% HN03 a month. Nothing spectacular, but it works!
@@copperinquarter Hi! How did you measure the exact concentration of the acid?
@Hampyumpy Hi there! With a chart I found on google images. It states the specific weight per ml for every concentration level. For accuracy, I measure 10 ml and then divide by 10.
what is the maximum % Nitric Acid strength that can be produced by this apparatus ? and also what impurities are produced by this apparatus ?
Hello how is my friend thank you for this video ❤❤ question how long does it take to make nitric acid
About a month for 1.5 liters at 20% strength.
@@copperinquarter
you mean 1.5 liters or 1500 liters per month
I mixed my acid 68% with some lite salt, cornstarch and brown sugar it turned red and then I left in a stainless steel sink outside overnight and it turned green and my sink had corroded slightly what happpend?
Stainless steel sinks (unless it’s specified) are made of the cheapest possible “stainless” steel and will not hold up to nitric acid.
And by cheap, I mean price AND quality.
Do a tutorial on how to make one of these from all the parts.
I will probably make a tutorial video once I release version 4.0 of the nitric acid generator.
Can I use red rtv as a sealant?
Not sure
How much Watts does it have?
This one runs at 300 watts. (10,000 volts × 0.03 amps)
@@copperinquarter Chinese sells tham power supplys with 4000volt and 0,03amps better energy effiziency
This voltage ac or dc?
AC
@@copperinquarter any contract?
@@r-mangaming519 What do you mean?
@@copperinquarter I want to talk to you about something
@@r-mangaming519 you can email me at copperinquarter@gmail.com
where to get that gas dispersion tube 😭
chemglass.com/gas-dispersion-tubes-fritted
I ordered the "fine" version. CG-203-01
@@copperinquarter THANK YOU
@@tahallium You're welcome!
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your skipping a major step . you need to oxidize the brown gas with fresh air then bubble it threw water
The brown gas is nitrogen dioxide. Nitrogen monoxide is colorless. My homemade nitric acid works very well.
@@copperinquarter he means that you'll get a higher amount of NO2 if you pump air in as well using something like a fish tank airpump. The NO will convert to NO2 creating more acid when diffused through the water.
@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 There is an aquarium air pump pumping air. That's how the system works. It's the blue thing on the table under the arc chamber.
@@copperinquarter I should have been more specific, if you're getting significant NO generation you should increase the airflow to convert it to NO2. I think that's what he's getting at at least. Using peroxide in your collection chamber will increase your yield and a second chamber with water and sodium carbonate can make sure you're getting all of the nitrogen oxides.
@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 The problem with increasing the airflow is NO doesn't have time to oxidize to N02 and would require a separate heated (to prevent NO2 from condensing into liquid form) oxidation chamber.
Your narration software is annoying. Just read it yourself.
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