Dats bcuz we was fresh outta da 90s things was kinda still da same it jus changed a slight bit but like I always tell everyone shit started getting weird like after 09"010" in my prospective I feel like dat and I was born in 91" lol
I use to watch all of telfair highlights before my summer league games back in 2006. I started point and watching his highlights gave me confidence before them games. A true legend.
At 2:52 when u got that type of speed, "The Shamgod" move is very lethal to have an your arsenal, almost unfair when u think about it. Takes an very disciplined defender to not get caught by that move. Next time brother just give this fast brother (Sebastian Telfair)alot of space.
Old comment but you’re right. It’s so tempting as a defender to think you can snatch the ball. But as soon as you try to do that it’s all over (assuming the ball handler has elite quickness).
When I saw a Jay-Z chain on his neck, i knew his career wasn't going to last. He hung with the wrong crowd unfortunately. He started getting in trouble with gun charge and going to jail. His family should pull him off that. He could have a long career in the nba.
I guess this was recommended to me when I was listening to Sebastian telfair on Cameron and Mace sports talk show ... Woooow This was 17 years ago and I'm just now seeing it wow This is crazy 😮
i don't see how people can all this guy a "failure" or "bust". he has been in the league for almost 10 years and has made millions over that time..... but whatever hater gone hate.
That phrase ever had any truth. Only New Yorkers believe that. New York basketball is more about flash than fundamentals. The only time kids from NY make it big is when they go play ball somewhere else like Oak Hill or a private school in Jersey. Neither high school or college basketball in city of NY is getting anyone anywhere of significance. Best player to come out of NY, high school and college, in recent memory is Ron Artest.
True but like I said had he gone to college and got some experience his career might have been more than what it is. What people don't realize is that he was supposed to go to louisville and play for them but decided to go to the NBA at the last minute cause somebody got killed in the projects he grew up in right outside his mothers door. He wanted to hurry up and get his family out the hood. But at the end of the day I wish him well. He may not be a superstar but still a gifted point guard IMO.
I think he just peaked in high school, plain and simple. It happens to many players. He was the quickest and the fastest in HS and now NBA he hasn't continued to develop physically
New york. most overrated city for hoops, most overrated players, esp the point guards. name a point guard from new york in the top 10 in the L or in the L's history. yet all they talk about is NYC point guards. this guy got drafted out of high school ahead of jammer nelson, and other point guards who were much better- cos of his new york hype. I aint dissing new york- just saying- he NC has produced Steph Curry, John Wall, and CP3- and you don't hear them out there calling NC point guards are the baddest- like Kenny Smith. the guy makes it sound like they're producing genius's up there. fact is- to be a great point guard in the NBA, streetball will fuck up your game. a pro point guard is like a pro quarterback- and reading defences, leading offences, making the right play and being efficient is more important that fast break highlights, bouncing the ball off a dudes face and all of that stuff. don't get me wrong- i love that shit too- but it aint gonna make good nba players- i mean it hasn't yet. if i had to produce a nba point guard live or die, id rather see my point guard go AAU and get coached proper from 10 than to be on the blacktop picking up them habits.
Mike Hamilton they were ok- yeah good- but yeesh- ud think they produced jjordan , kobe, lebron and dr j by the way they go on. carolina and california produce more and better ballers by state. by far.
new york- more likely to produce a chef, theatre performer, whatver- so many things to do in NYC- whereas other places its literally a basketball court for 10 miles and thats it- thats why other places produce more greatness. u need boredom.
Crazy that some of these guys need protection on public courts as the fans can't control themselves. Some of these games just get out of control due to idiots in the stands being idiots.
Sebastian is a solid pro at this point, he played very well for the Suns this year and even won their team hustle award named after Dan Majerle. It's obvious he's put in a lot of work on his game. He's a much better shooter than he was, way improved D and he's making much better decisions as a playmaker. He just seems more comfortable and consistent.
the key to successful crossovers is like u gotta study the rhythm of ur opponents defense and be able to think 2 steps ahead. thats when u are able to make it look easy.
actually nick van exel is a flashy player, he's got the crossovers, he could dunk, throw no look pases, hit jumpers. At rucker park, nic van would run the show.
he was a total none factor in the NBA. I watched him for his first few years, cause my team (the BLAZERS) drafted him, and I still don't remember him making any dope highlights or putting up stats at all! he was too small and one dimensional for the league. All he had was his quickness and ball handling and he couldn't even get buckets with that, cause he was too small and not acrobatic enough to finish when he got in the lane and his jumper and three ball were broke AF.
Exactly. I hate when people call dude a bust... he played in 564 NBA games and started in 193 (Wikipedia stats). Considering he was taken 13th and was under 6ft like Rashad said, that's an above average career. Dude's a legit baller.
I love everything about this video. I'd buy a one-drink minimum ticket to hear "Oh my gawwwd" dude & "I missed it" guy repeat their duo performance. And yes, praise Nick Van Exel!
Just like Hip-Hop, NYC aint on top no more, but for 30-50 years, we originated it, showed yall what it looks like with a little flava, a little swag, upped the media attention, upped the dollars and now the rest of the country is running with it. Legend in 2 games....
He had talent, i just thought he was a corny guy... Plenty other NY streetballers better than him, that could have been better off in the NBA. That's my opinion though...
armst012 is right the guy is good but what has he done since then he should have went to college to make a name for himself the guy is unheard of right now. college players get more publicity than telfair. randy foye is better
The “through the fire” documentary has been taken off TH-cam. You could find it easily until today(14 Jan 2024). Guess he trying to capitalize off his interviews going viral. Get your money
Lance Stephon the marbury brothers then teflair. You have Brooklyn starting 5 to win any Rucker tournament Great shooters passers Jump out the building Believe me I played with marbury.Half court was His 3 point range.
Has some of the best handles you'll ever see. He was too anxious to get to the NBA he should of went to Louisville. But he didn't. He's not a bust cause he wasnt drafted so high. He was never a point guard who would of been capable to get you 20 points 10 assist he was more like a 16 points 8 or 9 assist guy. Lookin at all his hs vids even if he turned out to be good I dont think he would of been a "Great Point Guard"
@grasd2 Only thing he did wrong was skip college, he was suppose to attend louisville before deciding on going pro.....with a few years under pitino's system and the competition of the big east, in my opinion, he could of been a all-star guard inthe nba...........Remember allen iverson was the same way in high school before going to georgetown and actually learning how to play the game and getting teammates involved......He should of went to college.......
yea he should of went to college to develope his game but how ppl gets that chance to go pro after high skoo,how many ppl get tha chance to get there own sho after high skoo,not that many there a good chance where if he went to college he wouldnt of got drafted opportunity only knocks onces sometimes twice so u cant really blame him for doin that shit i would of done the same thing if they gave me a 6 mill shoe deal 2 lol
the only reaosn evryone saying that he sucks in the nba is that nba players dont have az much fun az the guy from new york who ball nba players dont cut they dont make themselves available enough for telfair o deliver a great pass the wait around to get the ball and shoot or drive they dont allow a pg to be a real pg.. telfair is definetly pro talent for sure.all he had to do was develop a 3 point shot and mid and he wud be a star becuase his quickness is very elite
Karem Archibald Erving Monroe Frasier Chamberlain Hawkins Bing Payton Kidd Davis Marbury Alston the list goes on n on..this "streetball" term been raped.If Shaq were to play streetball and dominated the post he'd be a legend...if Steve Kerr were to play and rain 3s all day season after season he'd be a legend...if you can ball you can ball...theres conditions out of players hands when you get in the league..stop hating cus they dont get the same shine they do outdoors
WRONG!...sorry...ever hear of Lenny Cook..that was a bust...Telfair is still young and his numbers are going up each season (not by much but up still)..true u get experience with college ball but even thats not guaranteed to help...theres small college players who end up shining in the league then theres bigname college players who falter in the league...it all depends on how your game translates at the next level
Because he definitaly could have been better than a role player who has yet to average 10ppg in his career in NBA. He is very talented, but I believe with more emphasis on fundamentals, he could have been a very very good point guard. So when I say waste, I am speaking on where I think his skills could have taken him to this point. I dont think skipping college did much for his game. He's not even playing 20 min per night on a bad and very young Twolves team this year. That help you az4515...??
Because he definitaly could have been better than a role player who has yet to average 10ppg in his career in NBA. He is very talented, but I believe with more emphasis on fundamentals, he could have been a very very good point guard. So when I say waste, I am speaking on where I think his skills could have taken him to this point. I dont think skipping college did much for his game. He's not even playing 20 min per night on a bad and very young Twolves team this year. That help you az4515...??
not every point guard will put up superstar stats, with 20 and 11 assist or good stats like 17 and 7. and hes averaging 9 and 6 assist. which are very solid, and hes doing it with a decent field goal percentage and less talent around him. and he can give you 25-30 min a game. hes a solid player. just give him a little more time before planting bust tag. BASKETBALL isnt that easy cuz if it was we would all be in the nba instead of being here talking bout the nba.
lol, kobe was benched under byron scott for a 2 years. and it took jermaine oneal 5 or 6 years to put up the #s they expected from him. and KG it took him a year to put up the #s that were expected from him. but you only named three people, which you were wrong about. and i said that he was a streaky shooter. but hes a hard worker so there is still hope. all you nerds that dont watch or play basketball. just shut up.
he came out of highschool, so it will take him longer to hit where he needs to be. and i said it can go both ways, success or failure. and if no team wants him why is it on every team hes played for he gets 25-30 min per game?????? because they what he brings to the table. hes solid. and its a little early for bust tag not too early though iight. it takes the average highschool player 3-5 years to find his place. unless they are the freakishly big coming in to the NBA like LBJ and DWIGHT HOWARD
he doesnt suck he just wasnt ready, hes not lebron or dwight howard, gifted with a NBA body from the start, hes a undersized point guard with a streaky jumpshot. it happens alot with young players that comeout as FRESHMAN in college or SENIORS in highschool their bodies arent fully matured.give him a year and if hes not succesful then you can give him the bust tag if he is you will probably jump on the vanwagon.
bullshit, i dont buy it plenty of guys go to school 4 years and they no more or less ready in the pros. you either got it or you dont. there are plenty of variable in being a great pro and there is no comlete science. rick pitino had mercer for for three years how he turn out. i know one thing if you had the high school allstars in the nba against the 4 years college nba players im picking high school players buy 50
Most guys from NYC usually are pretty selfish and vain when it comes to their skills. They can get away with on the streets, but not in the NBA. The only guys from New York I can think of that are effective players are Odom [born in Jamaica, Queens], Artest, Brand and former player Mark Jackson. I know SMush Parker, Telfair and MArbury are from NY, but I don't see them as being more than good athletes.
Wow he is the Man! Guess that is why Portland who won 21 games last year traded him. Or why he could only start 30 games for a 21 win team. He WAS the man on the playground (defense not a premium there.) And in H.S. against H.S. talent (most of which don't get to play D1 Ball) and against guys who "think" they have game. Till he does it in the league he is just another playground legend livin off of buzz created when he was in H.S. But he makin more than I ever will so he doin somethin right
in the summer leagues there were no zones. In the league there is zones. He should have went to school, but he didn't,If the NBA was under the old man 2 man rules he would be more successful. it's still too early to tell what he will become. We will know in do time. CHECK OUT WHAT BONE COLLECTOR DID TO A NBA PLAYERS ON MY CHANNEL
Not really, LJ had games being highlighted on sportscenter. They said that because this is the feature on the Through The Fire DVD and highlights Bassy's accomplishments. Also, this is the rucker, New York's own not Cleveland's own. But u right from the point that Bassy is more famous as a street baller in NY.
lmao to the suns fan who are still excited about telfair his hyped died about the time entered the NBA and to the people why doesn't he play like this in the NBA ..what make no look passes? cus no one give a fuck about that they want you to look and yes he has handles but he's undersized and can't shoot ..nuff said lol
The high school jump straight to the NBA is not for every one, some kids can handle it, Lebron, Kobe, KG and others but not this kid. It fucked him up. He was not ready for such a leap in talent, speed, athleticism, strength and power the NBA game presents. His fans can say what they want but he was not ready for the NBA. Where is he now?
@akman770 My question to you is How much longer are you going to say that? Dropped passes or not. The guy is a veteran in the league learn how to play with your teamates. There really isn't anything special about this guy either. Jason Williams (White) came in and was going crazy with his passes. He wound up being a good back up point guard it happens.
@akman770 Do you her yourself talking. To even suggest that Telfair is missing piece to a championship is crazy. If he had talent and that was good he wouldn't even be in Cleveland. No offense. That is probably the worst statement I have heard about basketball.Just checked theguy averaged 7.2 points in Minnesota too. The guy just a bust. If Ricky Rubio comes, he is gone.
@Jared504 How are people disagreeing with my general point that his game doesn't translate well to the NBA? That's speaks for itself if you look at his resume or lack there of. He's never even played on a playoff team because he's not good enough to make a good team. He's got to settle for riding the bench with the Timberwolves
@Jared504 Why do you keep bringing up his shooting percentage? It's nothing special at all even this season and his career percentages are just terrible. And his court vision isn't good, why are you acting like he's John Stockton or something? And his defense is as good as any player his size? That's not saying much. Every guy he guards can shoot over him.
Ok people youve made your point..he isnt the star of the Nba But he would definately kill anyone on here writin bullshit comments on him..i do agree Louisville wouldve turned him into a better player, but it was his decision and hes still good enough to be in the Nba..that would be good enough for me..it takes skill just to stay.they cut people everyday..
@andergra000 yea exactly these nba players are trained to be shooters drivers defenders passers and shit like that most of them arnt taught how to slash. and help the point guard and get the point guard open drives and give the pg breathing room...except probually the phonix suns and jazz..do u see all dem screens they set ..telfair wud fit great in that offense
Just because you're great in the street doesn't mean you're gonna be great in the NBA. Sure he has some amazing street basketball moves. But, they are just that, Street moves. He is a BUM in the NBA. I don't even know what team he plays for now. I think i saw him buried at the end of the CAVS' bench the other day. WHAT A BUST.
Hope you know a lot of cats got there start from street ball that made it to the nba. Doctor J was one of them as well as so many others. But some of the moves in street ball you can't do in the nba because a lot of traverlling and carrying the ball, This is pure entertainment I rather watch this then most of the nba games.
Lol miss the old days when shit was simple early 2000s were good years
David Chaparro word right.
Dats bcuz we was fresh outta da 90s things was kinda still da same it jus changed a slight bit but like I always tell everyone shit started getting weird like after 09"010" in my prospective I feel like dat and I was born in 91" lol
Baggy shorts era💯
Same here.
Could yave been a great player in the NBA IF HE STAY FOCUSED AND HUMBLE.
He could've been Chris Paul before Chris Paul. Perfect example of why you need to separate yourself from bad influences.
I saw him annihilate Chris Paul! Nobody could stay in front of him!!
Couldn’t shoot or defend like Chris.
last move was crazy!!!
When the dude in the Sam "I am" Cassell jersey laid down next to dude that fouled Telfair,.... I started cryin'.... LMAO LMAO 2:15
Lebron wearing surpeme gear at 2:02. Can't imagine how much that would go for if someone found it
Good look lol
2:14 is hilarious hahahhaha nigga layed down next to him
@TheDezert No he didnt. LeBron played for St. Vincent-St. Marry in Akron, Ohio and Sebastian played for Lincoln in New York. Get your facts straight
Yo it’s crazy to see your comments here
2:02 *sebastian telfair is in the building* ...while lebron james walks behind lol
Lol look where they at now
+icyboy771z Telfair's hometown doe
You see that was jay z there too
and they were outdoors too. All-around fail by that announcer.
Boy boy I know they regret that shit now lol 😂
@lb4life2idie ayy the funny thing is no one knew LeBron at the time! haha
@JxmyHighroller didn’t expect to see you here
Love the end. "Watch this shit! Watch this shit!" ... "I missed it."
he did the god shamgod
I use to watch all of telfair highlights before my summer league games back in 2006. I started point and watching his highlights gave me confidence before them games. A true legend.
Me too lol I used to watch through the fire before tryouts
Me too
At 2:52 when u got that type of speed, "The Shamgod" move is very lethal to have an your arsenal, almost unfair when u think about it. Takes an very disciplined defender to not get caught by that move. Next time brother just give this fast brother (Sebastian Telfair)alot of space.
*NO HE DIDN'T!*
Old comment but you’re right. It’s so tempting as a defender to think you can snatch the ball. But as soon as you try to do that it’s all over (assuming the ball handler has elite quickness).
1:58 "Sebastian Telfair is in the building" the fuck Lebron James is right behind him!!!
Living street ball legend.... Salute And Respect....
Good old streetball mixtape-ish clips. Sebastian Telfair was one of the Nest Ball Handlers to lace 'em up, dude was straighth up ballin'.
When I saw a Jay-Z chain on his neck, i knew his career wasn't going to last. He hung with the wrong crowd unfortunately. He started getting in trouble with gun charge and going to jail. His family should pull him off that. He could have a long career in the nba.
Sad day for the world, hold your head bul.
2:11 my man stuck him up couldnt shake'em
I'm surprised he hasn't made a big impact in the NBA. I thought he'd be like Jason Williams on the Kings, 14 points, 8 assists per game or so...
I guess this was recommended to me when I was listening to Sebastian telfair on Cameron and Mace sports talk show ... Woooow This was 17 years ago and I'm just now seeing it wow This is crazy 😮
da marbury's gets Bizzy...ever last one of dem
Problem is NYC basketball players can go to the hole with ease ,But can’t shoot.
This guy is firing on all cylinders! Just like the guns found in his car!
danlad10 lol you figured away to get that in there
@dre19872005 I know what your sayin. Give him a few off ball screens while he's dribbling and I bet he'll get something goin
LEGEND IN THE COMMENTS
Yo wtf bro nice to see you here love your vids bro
@@pasha3631 man's has a few comments in this😂
I was 4 years old when I commented this
Great hooper, but had no confidence or jumper when he played in the show =(NBA)....
@lb4life2idie BRO it is! hahaha! spot that shit out!
one of the most talented players to never pan out in the nba
Just show tat nba is a different level. You can be a beast in HS or college but flop in NBA.
he still had a long career.. longer than most.. he got into legal troubles
Not one pull up jumper was made that day.
Adrian Mata lol
Adrian Mata
True, I was there on that day.
Lol at 3:06 the kid who says, " I missed it!"
man that's Bron at 2:02
damn!! this video is posted 10years ago
2:02 is that Jay-Z and LBJ?
Yep
DAMNNN 10 YEARS AGO?? i feel mad old smh
Now it’s 18 years
Damn,a lot of Chicago fellas are going on youtube and typing in "Why is New York better at everything?" Just keep it humble and stay right behind us.
i don't see how people can all this guy a "failure" or "bust". he has been in the league for almost 10 years and has made millions over that time..... but whatever hater gone hate.
Speaking all FACTS 💯 on "IT IS WHAT IT IS" Mase and Cam
That phrase ever had any truth. Only New Yorkers believe that. New York basketball is more about flash than fundamentals. The only time kids from NY make it big is when they go play ball somewhere else like Oak Hill or a private school in Jersey. Neither high school or college basketball in city of NY is getting anyone anywhere of significance. Best player to come out of NY, high school and college, in recent memory is Ron Artest.
True but like I said had he gone to college and got some experience his career might have been more than what it is. What people don't realize is that he was supposed to go to louisville and play for them but decided to go to the NBA at the last minute cause somebody got killed in the projects he grew up in right outside his mothers door. He wanted to hurry up and get his family out the hood. But at the end of the day I wish him well. He may not be a superstar but still a gifted point guard IMO.
3:10
"oHMY GOD!"
"i missed it"
lool
I think he just peaked in high school, plain and simple. It happens to many players. He was the quickest and the fastest in HS and now NBA he hasn't continued to develop physically
0:36 crosses a young Lance Stephenson
How can you tell it's Stephenson?
I miss the early 2000s, gosh I graduated in 2004. I remember watching to 2003 NBA draft
New york. most overrated city for hoops, most overrated players, esp the point guards. name a point guard from new york in the top 10 in the L or in the L's history. yet all they talk about is NYC point guards. this guy got drafted out of high school ahead of jammer nelson, and other point guards who were much better- cos of his new york hype.
I aint dissing new york- just saying- he NC has produced Steph Curry, John Wall, and CP3- and you don't hear them out there calling NC point guards are the baddest- like Kenny Smith. the guy makes it sound like they're producing genius's up there. fact is- to be a great point guard in the NBA, streetball will fuck up your game. a pro point guard is like a pro quarterback- and reading defences, leading offences, making the right play and being efficient is more important that fast break highlights, bouncing the ball off a dudes face and all of that stuff. don't get me wrong- i love that shit too- but it aint gonna make good nba players- i mean it hasn't yet. if i had to produce a nba point guard live or die, id rather see my point guard go AAU and get coached proper from 10 than to be on the blacktop picking up them habits.
Mark Jackson, Kenny Anderson were good
Mike Hamilton they were ok- yeah good- but yeesh- ud think they produced jjordan , kobe, lebron and dr j by the way they go on. carolina and california produce more and better ballers by state. by far.
new york- more likely to produce a chef, theatre performer, whatver- so many things to do in NYC- whereas other places its literally a basketball court for 10 miles and thats it- thats why other places produce more greatness. u need boredom.
Stephon Marbury
Nate Tiny Archibald was one of the best point guards of his era.
I had a few classes with Telfair back at Lincoln. He was a funny guy, down to earth.
Ah me too. We use to cut up
damn that shamgod crossover at the end was nasty.
Crazy that some of these guys need protection on public courts as the fans can't control themselves. Some of these games just get out of control due to idiots in the stands being idiots.
Still made it 10 years in the league and gets a pension for life. Salute
Sebastian is a solid pro at this point, he played very well for the Suns this year and even won their team hustle award named after Dan Majerle. It's obvious he's put in a lot of work on his game. He's a much better shooter than he was, way improved D and he's making much better decisions as a playmaker.
He just seems more comfortable and consistent.
the key to successful crossovers is like u gotta study the rhythm of ur opponents defense and be able to think 2 steps ahead. thats when u are able to make it look easy.
telfair should just join and1 or something. he clearly cant compete in the nba
if he can do these great passes and show his real scoring ability in the NBA. then i will respect him as an NBA player.
actually nick van exel is a flashy player, he's got the crossovers, he could dunk, throw no look pases, hit jumpers. At rucker park, nic van would run the show.
True
he was a total none factor in the NBA. I watched him for his first few years, cause my team (the BLAZERS) drafted him, and I still don't remember him making any dope highlights or putting up stats at all! he was too small and one dimensional for the league. All he had was his quickness and ball handling and he couldn't even get buckets with that, cause he was too small and not acrobatic enough to finish when he got in the lane and his jumper and three ball were broke AF.
you cant be a none factor when you under 6 ft and stayed in the nba for 10 years
Exactly. I hate when people call dude a bust... he played in 564 NBA games and started in 193 (Wikipedia stats). Considering he was taken 13th and was under 6ft like Rashad said, that's an above average career. Dude's a legit baller.
2:02 LeBron James
I love everything about this video. I'd buy a one-drink minimum ticket to hear "Oh my gawwwd" dude & "I missed it" guy repeat their duo performance. And yes, praise Nick Van Exel!
Mike Korzemba brought me here
:27 where is that park I remember AO from and 1 lighting up that park I always wanted to play there!
Roger 10Four it says it on the video. But I’m guessing you’re not from ny. It’s in Coney Island, Brooklyn called the garden
Tiny Archibald one of the best to come of of NYC
1:20 is that Alimoe talking?
To bad he wasnt shyt in high school
What happened to Sebastian Telfair? and what team is he now?
Passing is underated, bigups to duke
Just like Hip-Hop, NYC aint on top no more, but for 30-50 years, we originated it, showed yall what it looks like with a little flava, a little swag, upped the media attention, upped the dollars and now the rest of the country is running with it. Legend in 2 games....
He had talent, i just thought he was a corny guy... Plenty other NY streetballers better than him, that could have been better off in the NBA. That's my opinion though...
Telfair real nigga fuck you
armst012 is right the guy is good but what has he done since then he should have went to college to make a name for himself the guy is unheard of right now. college players get more publicity than telfair. randy foye is better
"i missed it"
The “through the fire” documentary has been taken off TH-cam. You could find it easily until today(14 Jan 2024). Guess he trying to capitalize off his interviews going viral. Get your money
really hes been an nba pro for 8 years
They went from saying “Nick Van….Nick Van Exel” hahaha to “KOBE” hahahaha “JORDAN” lmao hahahaha “REDDICK” hahahaha “NICK VAN” is crazy lol
3:08 i missd it lol
Lance Stephon the marbury brothers then teflair.
You have Brooklyn starting 5
to win any Rucker tournament
Great shooters passers
Jump out the building
Believe me I played
with marbury.Half court was
His 3 point range.
Has some of the best handles you'll ever see. He was too anxious to get to the NBA he should of went to Louisville. But he didn't. He's not a bust cause he wasnt drafted so high. He was never a point guard who would of been capable to get you 20 points 10 assist he was more like a 16 points 8 or 9 assist guy. Lookin at all his hs vids even if he turned out to be good I dont think he would of been a "Great Point Guard"
@grasd2 Only thing he did wrong was skip college, he was suppose to attend louisville before deciding on going pro.....with a few years under pitino's system and the competition of the big east, in my opinion, he could of been a all-star guard inthe nba...........Remember allen iverson was the same way in high school before going to georgetown and actually learning how to play the game and getting teammates involved......He should of went to college.......
yea he should of went to college to develope his game but how ppl gets that chance to go pro after high skoo,how many ppl get tha chance to get there own sho after high skoo,not that many there a good chance where if he went to college he wouldnt of got drafted opportunity only knocks onces sometimes twice so u cant really blame him for doin that shit i would of done the same thing if they gave me a 6 mill shoe deal 2 lol
the only reaosn evryone saying that he sucks in the nba is that nba players dont have az much fun az the guy from new york who ball nba players dont cut they dont make themselves available enough for telfair o deliver a great pass the wait around to get the ball and shoot or drive they dont allow a pg to be a real pg.. telfair is definetly pro talent for sure.all he had to do was develop a 3 point shot and mid and he wud be a star becuase his quickness is very elite
Karem Archibald Erving Monroe Frasier Chamberlain Hawkins Bing Payton Kidd Davis Marbury Alston the list goes on n on..this "streetball" term been raped.If Shaq were to play streetball and dominated the post he'd be a legend...if Steve Kerr were to play and rain 3s all day season after season he'd be a legend...if you can ball you can ball...theres conditions out of players hands when you get in the league..stop hating cus they dont get the same shine they do outdoors
WRONG!...sorry...ever hear of Lenny Cook..that was a bust...Telfair is still young and his numbers are going up each season (not by much but up still)..true u get experience with college ball but even thats not guaranteed to help...theres small college players who end up shining in the league then theres bigname college players who falter in the league...it all depends on how your game translates at the next level
Because he definitaly could have been better than a role player who has yet to average 10ppg in his career in NBA. He is very talented, but I believe with more emphasis on fundamentals, he could have been a very very good point guard. So when I say waste, I am speaking on where I think his skills could have taken him to this point. I dont think skipping college did much for his game. He's not even playing 20 min per night on a bad and very young Twolves team this year. That help you az4515...??
Because he definitaly could have been better than a role player who has yet to average 10ppg in his career in NBA. He is very talented, but I believe with more emphasis on fundamentals, he could have been a very very good point guard. So when I say waste, I am speaking on where I think his skills could have taken him to this point. I dont think skipping college did much for his game. He's not even playing 20 min per night on a bad and very young Twolves team this year. That help you az4515...??
not every point guard will put up superstar stats, with 20 and 11 assist or good stats like 17 and 7. and hes averaging 9 and 6 assist. which are very solid, and hes doing it with a decent field goal percentage and less talent around him. and he can give you 25-30 min a game. hes a solid player. just give him a little more time before planting bust tag. BASKETBALL isnt that easy cuz if it was we would all be in the nba instead of being here talking bout the nba.
lol, kobe was benched under byron scott for a 2 years. and it took jermaine oneal 5 or 6 years to put up the #s they expected from him. and KG it took him a year to put up the #s that were expected from him. but you only named three people, which you were wrong about. and i said that he was a streaky shooter. but hes a hard worker so there is still hope. all you nerds that dont watch or play basketball. just shut up.
he came out of highschool, so it will take him longer to hit where he needs to be. and i said it can go both ways, success or failure. and if no team wants him why is it on every team hes played for he gets 25-30 min per game?????? because they what he brings to the table. hes solid. and its a little early for bust tag not too early though iight. it takes the average highschool player 3-5 years to find his place. unless they are the freakishly big coming in to the NBA like LBJ and DWIGHT HOWARD
he doesnt suck he just wasnt ready, hes not lebron or dwight howard, gifted with a NBA body from the start, hes a undersized point guard with a streaky jumpshot. it happens alot with young players that comeout as FRESHMAN in college or SENIORS in highschool their bodies arent fully matured.give him a year and if hes not succesful then you can give him the bust tag if he is you will probably jump on the vanwagon.
bullshit, i dont buy it plenty of guys go to school 4 years and they no more or less ready in the pros. you either got it or you dont. there are plenty of variable in being a great pro and there is no comlete science. rick pitino had mercer for for three years how he turn out. i know one thing if you had the high school allstars in the nba against the 4 years college nba players im picking high school players buy 50
Most guys from NYC usually are pretty selfish and vain when it comes to their skills. They can get away with on the streets, but not in the NBA. The only guys from New York I can think of that are effective players are Odom [born in Jamaica, Queens], Artest, Brand and former player Mark Jackson. I know SMush Parker, Telfair and MArbury are from NY, but I don't see them as being more than good athletes.
Wow he is the Man! Guess that is why Portland who won 21 games last year traded him. Or why he could only start 30 games for a 21 win team. He WAS the man on the playground (defense not a premium there.) And in H.S. against H.S. talent (most of which don't get to play D1 Ball) and against guys who "think" they have game. Till he does it in the league he is just another playground legend livin off of buzz created when he was in H.S. But he makin more than I ever will so he doin somethin right
in the summer leagues there were no zones. In the league there is zones. He should have went to school, but he didn't,If the NBA was under the old man 2 man rules he would be more successful. it's still too early to tell what he will become. We will know in do time. CHECK OUT WHAT BONE COLLECTOR DID TO A NBA PLAYERS ON MY CHANNEL
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He was streetball good that's it.looks lie he couldn't really shoot either
Not enough finishes against Pro-Am competition
Not really, LJ had games being highlighted on sportscenter. They said that because this is the feature on the Through The Fire DVD and highlights Bassy's accomplishments. Also, this is the rucker, New York's own not Cleveland's own. But u right from the point that Bassy is more famous as a street baller in NY.
lmao to the suns fan who are still excited about telfair his hyped died about the time entered the NBA and to the people why doesn't he play like this in the NBA ..what make no look passes? cus no one give a fuck about that they want you to look and yes he has handles but he's undersized and can't shoot ..nuff said lol
The high school jump straight to the NBA is not for every one, some kids can handle it, Lebron, Kobe, KG and others but not this kid. It fucked him up. He was not ready for such a leap in talent, speed, athleticism, strength and power the NBA game presents. His fans can say what they want but he was not ready for the NBA. Where is he now?
@akman770 My question to you is How much longer are you going to say that? Dropped passes or not. The guy is a veteran in the league learn how to play with your teamates. There really isn't anything special about this guy either. Jason Williams (White) came in and was going crazy with his passes. He wound up being a good back up point guard it happens.
@akman770 Do you her yourself talking. To even suggest that Telfair is missing piece to a championship is crazy. If he had talent and that was good he wouldn't even be in Cleveland. No offense. That is probably the worst statement I have heard about basketball.Just checked theguy averaged 7.2 points in Minnesota too. The guy just a bust. If Ricky Rubio comes, he is gone.
@Jared504 How are people disagreeing with my general point that his game doesn't translate well to the NBA? That's speaks for itself if you look at his resume or lack there of. He's never even played on a playoff team because he's not good enough to make a good team. He's got to settle for riding the bench with the Timberwolves
@Jared504 Why do you keep bringing up his shooting percentage? It's nothing special at all even this season and his career percentages are just terrible. And his court vision isn't good, why are you acting like he's John Stockton or something? And his defense is as good as any player his size? That's not saying much. Every guy he guards can shoot over him.
Ok people youve made your point..he isnt the star of the Nba But he would definately kill anyone on here writin bullshit comments on him..i do agree Louisville wouldve turned him into a better player, but it was his decision and hes still good enough to be in the Nba..that would be good enough for me..it takes skill just to stay.they cut people everyday..
@andergra000 yea exactly these nba players are trained to be shooters drivers defenders passers and shit like that most of them arnt taught how to slash. and help the point guard and get the point guard open drives and give the pg breathing room...except probually the phonix suns and jazz..do u see all dem screens they set ..telfair wud fit great in that offense
Just because you're great in the street doesn't mean you're gonna be great in the NBA. Sure he has some amazing street basketball moves. But, they are just that, Street moves. He is a BUM in the NBA. I don't even know what team he plays for now. I think i saw him buried at the end of the CAVS' bench the other day. WHAT A BUST.
Hope you know a lot of cats got there start from street ball that made it to the nba. Doctor J was one of them as well as so many others. But some of the moves in street ball you can't do in the nba because a lot of traverlling and carrying the ball, This is pure entertainment I rather watch this then most of the nba games.