Silver Wolf vs Pela ft. Jiaoqiu | E0S0 Acheron Team Comparison | MoC 2.4

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  • @cornflakebutsilly
    @cornflakebutsilly  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

    Apologies, i forgot to include SW build at the end, and i forgot to change her 2 pc spd + 2 pc BE to 4 pc wind in the run.
    I tested it again with wind and the clear times barely changed so its fine ig.

    • @Secret123890
      @Secret123890 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Did we do a Pela VS Sparkle in a team comp where Jiaoqiu is in? If not, can we have that please?

  • @TheeGull0213
    @TheeGull0213 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    Your videos are really encouraging me to go all in on jiaoqiu. I appreciate the comparisons with other units and proving the doomposters through actual gameplay.

    • @critanddam9031
      @critanddam9031 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      💀💀💀💀

    • @TheeGull0213
      @TheeGull0213 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@critanddam9031 why?

    • @critanddam9031
      @critanddam9031 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheeGull0213 like jiaqiu is not that much value over pela waste of 80pulls

    • @TheeGull0213
      @TheeGull0213 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      @@critanddam9031 i'll run them both so don't worry about my pulls.

    • @critanddam9031
      @critanddam9031 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@TheeGull0213 thats not my point. the point is hes useless on any tesam that isnt acheron so hyperinvesting on her team by getting acheron constealltion or weapon is more worth it

  • @meowblaziken5634
    @meowblaziken5634 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +125

    Man, no wonder they nerf Jq 5 times, they even overnefed him, still will pull him tho

    • @wandersonvitor3054
      @wandersonvitor3054 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Same

    • @brianaguilar5204
      @brianaguilar5204 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      Yeah, he would’ve completely changed the course of the game if they had gone with his beta kit.

    • @dazzle810
      @dazzle810 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ​@@brianaguilar5204kinda like ruan mei when she first came out, so I kinda wish they did like acheron too

    • @UOHCUNY
      @UOHCUNY 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      i just want healing in his kit man

    • @Ordell1991
      @Ordell1991 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @tardwrangler1019 Idk why I want him to be like Mr Welt 2.0
      Not just center around debuff team. I want the break effect like in Gallagher and Mr Welt kit.

  • @kennethyoung7457
    @kennethyoung7457 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    I wish we could still get Before the Tutorial starts there is not any other lightcone that give effect hit rate and energy even limited 5 star lightcones don't do this.

    • @seraphywang4638
      @seraphywang4638 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Actually, there’s a lightcone that gives energy in Herta’s shop for every enemy defeated by a dot effected by wearer which helps with energy especially in Pure Fiction. Sampo’s lightcone “Eye of the Prey” is also very good even at refinement 1 for him (+28%ehr for S1 and then 48% at S5). Even without the lightcone, his ehr needs arent as high as some people think with just a little investment

    • @tsubasaxo
      @tsubasaxo 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      we should be getting it in 2.6 herta shop rejoice

  • @ameerr0812
    @ameerr0812 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +122

    2 cycle againt lightning res im take it

    • @miserlys
      @miserlys 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sw makes it 7% so thats probably why

    • @NcloyZ177
      @NcloyZ177 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's because SW brings so much ress shred for acheron

    • @AevyCh
      @AevyCh 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​​@@miserlys It's actually -17% since Acheron herself has built in 20% RES PEN during Ult. People often forget about that part of her kit.

  • @yourdanasty1
    @yourdanasty1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    your gallagher build is insane, great job!

  • @literallyjiaoqiu
    @literallyjiaoqiu 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    i dont have acheron, kafka or ratio and im not planning on getting them, but im getting jiaoqiu anyway! he might not be as good as ruan mei or other harmonies but hes not useless and that already is enough for me. he might have a team he excels at but his debuff is universal so imma pair him with a random pretty dps and ill be happy abt it
    ty for the video btw

    • @azusawhy
      @azusawhy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How come you don't have ratio, isn't he free

    • @natweigel
      @natweigel 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@azusawhy new players who start playing recently can’t get him he’s gone now. 😂

    • @user-ii9lu8ln1c
      @user-ii9lu8ln1c 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@natweigelsucks to be them fr

  • @LazyCatOnTheRoof
    @LazyCatOnTheRoof 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Can you please do E2 Acheron + Sparkle, but comparing Jiaoqiu E0S0 vs E6 Pela? I would like know if it's worth pulling him. I know he'll be better, but how much better?

    • @wahidrizki_
      @wahidrizki_ 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      I think JQ always better. He can give debuff per enemy turn

    • @wandersonvitor3054
      @wandersonvitor3054 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      JQ is obviously better, faster ults= more damage

    • @RitinhaGE
      @RitinhaGE 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      JQ is better in every scenario

    • @necasa4919
      @necasa4919 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I also wish to know this. Because this "how much better" is what will determine if it will be worth the pulls he needs. Picking him up means potentially crippling myself for future pulls, so I want to know if it will actually be worth it.

    • @RitinhaGE
      @RitinhaGE 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@necasa4919 he can charge her ult faster than pela c6 ever could she can just charge with her skill or ultimate maybe if you have the light one that inflicts burn she can charge it with her NA while JQ charges her skill with all his attacks plus whenever the enemy attacks. It all comes down to that no matter how many eidolons pela has she’s never gonna charge Acheron ult as fast as him. If you have E2 and sparkle plus JQ Acheron ult will be up much more often than with pela

  • @Alik-ld8hm
    @Alik-ld8hm 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Can you do Silverwolf+pela vs jaoqui+(pela or silver) in acheron team

    • @insaecticides
      @insaecticides 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      this

    • @insaecticides
      @insaecticides 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      heavy on sw + pela vs jq + pela

  • @alexleonard2348
    @alexleonard2348 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +108

    It's ridiculous how none of your showcases actually changed people's mind on him, which is sad. He is not worth it for people despite what they can see on your channel (assuming they even watch the videos)... That aside, I wish there was at least some comparisons for E2 Acheron.

    • @cloudy978
      @cloudy978 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

      Most of his nerfs were nothing changes and didn't actually change what made him strong. The only nerf that actually mattered was the ashen roast ultimate stack limit change. People fail to realize that he gave acheron double the stacks that she wpuld before and that is what made him strong. Even if his debuff itself is just good enough his value comes from giving acheron more ultimates which he does and it skyrockets her damage because she has more uptime.

    • @Vash_wrio
      @Vash_wrio 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      There’s a vid on this channel about e2s1Acheron + Sparkle vs E0S1 Acheron + Jiaoqiu and they both cleared in the same cycle. Considering that the first team costs 2 5* more Jiaoqiu is a pretty good upgrade.

    • @taru5156
      @taru5156 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      those who doompost and doubt him are mostly incels, imagine if its a waifu character instead of male then those losers gonna do the opposite lol

    • @Wagyube-ef
      @Wagyube-ef 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@cloudy978 And people already found an alternative to his limit stack changes that still makes Acheron viable in PF with him yet people dodge it and continue to throw shade its crazy.

    • @mayuyuki6386
      @mayuyuki6386 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      simple: not pulls and free jiaoqiu to other people wish him in your account ~ the game is free to all choice what want got or not

  • @yepyen
    @yepyen 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I have e0s0 acheron and silver wolf, the most efficient way for me is to get jiaoqui then acherons light cone. I dont wanna waste 200 pulls for e2 acheron just to get like 30% more dmg. I hope i am right

    • @donew1thita11
      @donew1thita11 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      You are right a showcase showed that e0s0 Acheron with jiaoqui was Barely worse than an e2s1 Acheron with sparkle, at worst a cycle longer but if you play correctly same number of cycles

    • @dontuknowhowsweetittastes
      @dontuknowhowsweetittastes 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      the value of a e2 acheron comes in the ease of team building, not requiring 3 nihility characters in a team enables acheron to benefit from broken harmony units such as sparkle/bronya

    • @lukefouche8724
      @lukefouche8724 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You are right!

  • @oyfum2638
    @oyfum2638 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Do Pela Jiaoqiu vs Pela Silverwolf

  • @JMike-bq6rl
    @JMike-bq6rl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Me with E1 Silver Wolf and E6 Pela, making do for both with 160+ speed, 4pc Eagle set..and their 2 Turn Ult spam.

    • @Waifu_Impact_Cunny_Archive
      @Waifu_Impact_Cunny_Archive 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      And who is your sustain ?

    • @Hhhh22222-w
      @Hhhh22222-w 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      still 1 cycle difference

    • @JMike-bq6rl
      @JMike-bq6rl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Waifu_Impact_Cunny_Archive Gallagher with Multiplication LC....To feed Acheron and Occasional Pela's Skillspam. Sometimes they are SP neutral.

  • @tosakah
    @tosakah 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Can you make: Acheron E2 + Sparkle, Pela vs Jiaoqiu?

  • @Taunt_1NG_U
    @Taunt_1NG_U 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    When you're the 69th like: but why not all of them in a team?

  • @ianong6330
    @ianong6330 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    still wondering should i pull jiaoqiu here :D
    having archeron e2 and also e2 silver wolf should i still go for jiaoqiu ?

  • @ciasen763
    @ciasen763 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Can someone tell me why acheron only gain 1 stack after using skill at 2:38?

    • @vergil9023
      @vergil9023 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      She does not have her sig weapon that's why

    • @sivinkxavier1106
      @sivinkxavier1106 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Bcs no sig lighcone

    • @ciasen763
      @ciasen763 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Ohhh, i forgot lc gives stack lol, thanks

    • @wandersonvitor3054
      @wandersonvitor3054 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's a E0 S0 Acheron, she only gets two stacks when she has her Lightcone

  • @ryostra1782
    @ryostra1782 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My acheron pela and SW team still got 2 cycle clear on MoC, and with DoTcheron in PF i always got 40k, so there's no necessary for getting jq

  • @johnwill9511
    @johnwill9511 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    jiaqiou or silver wolf?( for e0s0 acheron) i have pela already and i currently have 165 pulls but i plan on getting lingsha and feixiao for fua team as i have topaz aventurine and robin so i plan on skipping jiaqiou and getting silverwolf on her rerun which is 2.6 or so and acherons lc

    • @TheeGull0213
      @TheeGull0213 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Jiaoqiu of course if you want to main acheron. Silverwolf is bad if you don't have her e1 because of poor ult uptime while Jiaoqiu works perfectly at E0S0 for acheron

    • @ninthfriend3347
      @ninthfriend3347 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Jiaoqiu easily. SW without her tutorial lc or e1 has poor ult uptime. And by the time SW gets her rerun again, you probably don't need her.

    • @johnwill9511
      @johnwill9511 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@ninthfriend3347 yea your probably right thanks

    • @johnwill9511
      @johnwill9511 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@TheeGull0213 thanks ill probably get jiaoqiu and maybe get fexiao unless they nerf her

  • @necasa4919
    @necasa4919 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The only showcase I'm interested in is E2 Acheron + Sparkle or Bronya as base, and then Pela vs Jiaoqiu. I know the latter will come on top, but I want to know "how much" better is it.

  • @aethavens
    @aethavens 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    my team rn is e0s0 acheron, e6 pela, e2 gui. should i pull for jq or wait until sw to replace gui?

    • @disckorrt
      @disckorrt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Pull for him

    • @The_CodFish69
      @The_CodFish69 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have the Same team except I have S1 Acheron but my Guin is E0

    • @A_ShinySuicune
      @A_ShinySuicune 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      he is straight up better for acheron in all content

    • @zeuscliff9676
      @zeuscliff9676 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have the same team except e1 guinaifen, used him in story and my Acheron ulted faster so I'm gonna pull for him

    • @ctglloured
      @ctglloured 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      go for jiaoqiu, he's definitely way better for acheron and maybe future dps. sw is no longer useable outside mono quantum and acheron team. ever since characters like firefly and boothill that can implant weakness by theirself, sw value is kinda outdated tbh

  • @Kinnofaswan
    @Kinnofaswan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What lc should i use for him? Resolution is already on Pela, GNSW for Acheron, and Eyes of prey on BS, i have every other nihility LCs available except limited 5 stars, tutorial, and boundless choreo

    • @The_CodFish69
      @The_CodFish69 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Welp Rip then because besides his and SWs Sig then his BIS is Tutorial…

    • @Kinnofaswan
      @Kinnofaswan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@The_CodFish69 should I pull him then? I already have e6 Pela and e1 Black Swan but I feel like I'm not doing enough dmg and I don't want to ever pull for a sig LC...

    • @The_CodFish69
      @The_CodFish69 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Kinnofaswan well do you have Kafka? Because if yes then sure go for him and run the dot team in the second half.
      However if you don’t then it’s up to you at this point, E1 BS is a good character on the Acheron team so it depends on you sadly to make the choice.
      Jia is more for people like me who’s stuck with Guin on my Acheron team and even tho I won’t S1 him I have Tutorial so I’m good with lc.

    • @dariusfarrel3228
      @dariusfarrel3228 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@The_CodFish69i have the same scenario as you being im stuck with Guinaifen and no SW, but my Acheron is E1S1
      Should i just try to go for Jiaoqiu or just wait it out more and go for E2 and Sparkle?

    • @The_CodFish69
      @The_CodFish69 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dariusfarrel3228 hmm at that point welp that’s also a hard choice lol because if ya had Sparkle then go for E2 100% but because you more or less have a F2P team you can’t make use of E2 Archeron’s full potential.
      However, I’d say go for E2 she’s can hit harder if you use any harmony on the team for example if you have E1S1 Broyna is like sparkle at home lol and most importantly the one extra stack per turn.

  • @noelia3186
    @noelia3186 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have acheron e0s1 but i reeally want jiao andd sparkle but also fei soo i can only pull for sparkle or jia buut idk whichh one ;---; any suggestion?

    • @dianafox2175
      @dianafox2175 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      If you want your Acheron to be a beast that spams ults, go for JQ. If you have like a DHIL or Jingliu and want them to be insane, go for Sparkle.
      In short: JQ for Acheron teams, Sparkle for SP hungry DPS and hypercarries (that are not Acheron)

    • @lukefouche8724
      @lukefouche8724 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      jia is great for Acheron and is actually a good option in DOT teams due to his good debuff! Sparkle is great if you want to boost the hell out of Imbibitor Lunae or Jingliu or Dr.Ratio, otherwise, go JQ

  • @kev1834
    @kev1834 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    @cornflake can u or maybe someone else explain me how much effect hit rate actually JQ needs to 100% debuff the enemies in MOC? i understand that he needs at least 140% for his trace but his debuffs base chance to apply on the enemies are the same as black swan right? do that mean he only needs 120% effect hit rate to just land the debuffs? because i keep seeing in some post that if he gets his sig lightcone he needs 180% effect hit rate, but the chance to apply those debuffs are the same as his skills, so why is the difference so high?

    • @cornflakebutsilly
      @cornflakebutsilly  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      His base chance for inflicting Ashen Roast in his ult is 60%, Black Swan's base chance for Arcana is 65% so his requirements are a bit higher.
      Try for 140% EHR in MoC, at 140% he has a 86% chance of landing the debuff and at 100% EHR he has a 70% chance.
      He needs 177% EHR to guarantee landing his debuffs but its not required to build that much.

    • @kev1834
      @kev1834 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@cornflakebutsilly okay now things actually makes sense now ty

  • @Reggaement
    @Reggaement 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Black Swan or Jiaoqiu is better with E0 Acheron?

    • @yofukashidayo
      @yofukashidayo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      Jiaoqiu much better for acheron specifically but if you have kafka I'd pull Blackswan for a full dot team

  • @hdhdhvdjgdjjdbjdb5541
    @hdhdhvdjgdjjdbjdb5541 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    With herta lc he's a beast

  • @linhmy7673
    @linhmy7673 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Me having no ache and about to pull jiao for pela and sw: interesting

  • @4g3nt06
    @4g3nt06 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ive never seen the mech wolf do anything bc i killed it too fast in the story lmao

  • @jaloy9325
    @jaloy9325 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is Eyes of Prey the only f2p option on him? No Tutorial and Resolution is on Pela

    • @4..x
      @4..x 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      u need EHR mainly 177.8 otherwise it will effects his performance, herta shop LC is viable option imo in PF so u will have more uptime on uis ultimate

  • @eh1165
    @eh1165 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ugh i was originally just thinking I'll skip but hes better than i thought... How much of a difference is his E1?

    • @eh1165
      @eh1165 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I have both an E0S1 Acheron team and a dot team

    • @cornflakebutsilly
      @cornflakebutsilly  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@eh1165 15% damage increase on Acheron teams

  • @Loxly-ti4sq
    @Loxly-ti4sq 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have e0s0 Acheron, E6 Pela, and E1 Gui. Should I wait for SW or just go for Jiaoqiu to replace gui?

    • @pinkinglily6447
      @pinkinglily6447 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Jiaoqiu. He is acheron BiS support even when shes E2. Faster clear than guinaifen (difference can be as big as 2-3 cycles). At this point guinaifen is simply a budget jiaoqiu and a substitute for jiaoqiu in DoT team

    • @wandersonvitor3054
      @wandersonvitor3054 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      For Acheron? Go for Jiaoqiu

  • @donew1thita11
    @donew1thita11 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is he good with Dr ratio?

    • @wolfe4156
      @wolfe4156 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is what I wanna know too

    • @SUPERsourbum
      @SUPERsourbum 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yeah iirc i remember seeing a video where he actually works really good with ratio and actually matches topaz in clear time

    • @ctglloured
      @ctglloured 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      this channel already posted its showcase, scroll it

  • @Internextion
    @Internextion 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    what about jiaoqiu on wind set?

    • @cornflakebutsilly
      @cornflakebutsilly  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Will be hard to hit 160 spd while also hitting his EHR requirements

  • @Guitarp-tr8nq
    @Guitarp-tr8nq 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i don't think you even need sustain when you kill the enemy before it kill you how about e2s1acheron e0s0jiaoqiu e2(with event lc) silver wolf and e2s1sparkle? that will be my team lol

  • @dh4sje302
    @dh4sje302 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    sw in ideal sityation w 40% res, and she rolls 33% yea shure

  • @Ordell1991
    @Ordell1991 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Idk why Mr Welt skill looks appealing and satisfying than Jiaoqiu.

  • @darknessflame8826
    @darknessflame8826 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jiaoqiu X Pela Or Jiaoqiu X Black Swan on Acheron?

    • @Not_Kritikal
      @Not_Kritikal 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Pela better but Black Swan works if you don't have/ haven't built Pela

  • @subpakk
    @subpakk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Do for Black Swarn please, don't separate her gay mate

    • @Wagyube-ef
      @Wagyube-ef 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I wonder who'll perform better, a DOT centric unit or a nihility debuffer thats kit revolves around Ultimate DMG increase and vulnerability % increase who also somehow performs equally to black swan at DOT for some reason

    • @Datbombboody
      @Datbombboody 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Wagyube-effor some reason? read her kit

    • @ilovebanana177
      @ilovebanana177 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      "gay mate" and they won't t even meet again after Penacony

    • @ilovecamie
      @ilovecamie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@ilovebanana177you're mad they kiss

    • @Rachel-Pham
      @Rachel-Pham 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@ilovecamieAcheron actually told me that she likes Black Swan too. Lesbians won

  • @a.p5193
    @a.p5193 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Usually i always go for support. but yeah, i don't think i need JQ.

    • @marclenraymagdaraog691
      @marclenraymagdaraog691 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah, unfortunately he got nerfed.. so rn he's kinda useless vs just having Sparkle + Pela. I might as well go for E2 Acheron and kill anything in this game.

    • @Internextion
      @Internextion 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      @@marclenraymagdaraog691the nerfs barely affected him and hes still stronger than e2 for acheron lol

    • @lesterism
      @lesterism 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      E2 Acheron w/ sparkle still clears MOC minimum 1-2 cycle. Even 0 Cycle if you sweat run.​@@Internextion

    • @Internextion
      @Internextion 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      @@lesterism why spend 2-4 pities on upgrades for a single character (that costs more) than just spending 1-2 on a new support who can be used in multiple teams and maybe some on his lc since they have similar performances?

    • @zerk343
      @zerk343 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@Internextion who cares bro ppl just prefer get e2 acheron than pull for a npc char

  • @felipesouza1792
    @felipesouza1792 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    o pior boss pra acheron, sem cone e sem harmonia de turno extra ainda sim fez muito rapido pra um suporte flopado desse kkk

  • @daiwang8111
    @daiwang8111 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This comparison is biased toward sw imo, because sw reduce enemy lightning res when she implant lightning weakness to non lightning weak enemy

    • @Ihavenoname109
      @Ihavenoname109 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      bro thats a part of her kit, just like acherons ult

    • @daiwang8111
      @daiwang8111 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@Ihavenoname109 but the lightning res down debuff isnt applied if enemy is already lightning weak, so i think it will be more fair to compare it against lightning weak enemy

    • @astralcomet674
      @astralcomet674 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sigh idk when common sense gonna actually be common. This just makes it more noticeable on how viable silverwolf makes her for non weak lightning enemies.

    • @astralcomet674
      @astralcomet674 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​​@@daiwang8111and? It would be the same clear. If the team with pela was 1 cycle slower in a non lightning weak scenario then expect sw to have the same number of clears in a lightning weak scenario or slightly faster. Acheron doesn't need the extra defense shred on the weaker mobs since she does so much damage. It's the elite mobs and bosses that you need to focus the Def shred on.

  • @scopeyui240
    @scopeyui240 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    TEAM JQ x Pela !!

  • @Kriss.S.V
    @Kriss.S.V 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He is not really change acheron damage output tho, just use pela and sw if you have sw or guinaifen, i'd rather save my jade for future character if i have acheron😂

    • @planetbefall4744
      @planetbefall4744 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Me if I was a dumbass

    • @Rachel-Pham
      @Rachel-Pham 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sorry pal. He’s the best for Mei

  • @yofukashidayo
    @yofukashidayo 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    wish his design and animations were better

  • @lesterism
    @lesterism 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Not impressive, i'll wait for aven's rerun and slap my s5 trend. This run doesn't even come close to my E1S1 Ach

    • @Wawawawawa750
      @Wawawawawa750 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      none of these enemies are weak to lightning so it's worst case scenario vs your own run. Also S1 is a big boost to Acheron so unfair comparison

    • @The_CodFish69
      @The_CodFish69 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Also don’t forget this is a budget build team so if his Acheron had good relics it would have been at least one cycle faster.

    • @hershyijustshatmyself9253
      @hershyijustshatmyself9253 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      This is E0S0 Acheron vs. an enemy with a 40% Lightning Resistance. To say that E1S1 Acheron would clear faster is dumb, no offense.

    • @A_ShinySuicune
      @A_ShinySuicune 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Sounds like nitpicking/selective reasoning. The trend cope also gotta stop

    • @ctglloured
      @ctglloured 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      comparing e0s0 acheron with mid built to your e1s1 is pretty stoopid ngl. not to mention its already 2 cycle clear with lightning res enemies. you want an e0s0 character to did 0 cycle? what a dumbass

  • @HsrMy
    @HsrMy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think a lot of people underated SW.
    she is really good unit, that can shred enemy pens. Shred def, have so many debuff type.
    & people are overated JIAOQIU.
    I not say he bad, but he only work with acheron , on dot team you need e2 so he can be better than guinaifen.
    If you have E0/E1 or S0 acheron, you better save for acheron E2 or S1,
    than wasting your pull for him.
    If you are a gigawhale , DO WHATEVER YOU WANT.

  • @minamiheroine4397
    @minamiheroine4397 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    can u pls make a comparison between e0s1 vs e1s0(pearl of sweat) jiaoqui 🥹
    i dnt know if i should go e1 or s1 for more dmg for my acheron team.

    • @cornflakebutsilly
      @cornflakebutsilly  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      E1 with S5 Pearls is a 9% damage increase over E0 with signature.

    • @minamiheroine4397
      @minamiheroine4397 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cornflakebutsilly tnx!

    • @JMike-bq6rl
      @JMike-bq6rl 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@minamiheroine4397 Why not use the 5 star Herta Nihility LC on Jiaoqiu, especially if you need the Burst uptime?

    • @minamiheroine4397
      @minamiheroine4397 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JMike-bq6rl i dnt really struggling on uptime bec i have sparkle, so jiaoqui can cast BA>skill>skill.
      im using pela & SW, my SW always casting her skill my sp still fine. i ignore the dot on his kit and focus on support, hes 160spd /keel and 136EHR.

    • @whiteangel1138
      @whiteangel1138 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@JMike-bq6rl Herta nihility LC is only good in PF where JQ can spam his ult, practically making the 6 cap limit nonexistent. In AS and MoC Lukacone will always be better because by the time he reached his cap, he most likely already got his ult back.