Meyiwa trial | Ballistics expert links bullets and gun to accused 3

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  • The gun linked to accused number 3, Mthobisi Mncube is the one that killed soccer star Senzo Meyiwa according to the finding of ballistics expert, Chris Mangena. He says the bullets recovered from the crime scene were fired from the accused's firearm. eNCA reporter Manqoba Mchunu has more. Courtesy of #DStv403

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  • @clipzovid99
    @clipzovid99 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Oh no ❗not this rubbish again of linking innocent people to the murder, I mean such cruelty, have you no shame Khumalos, Longwe. Nikhohlakele stru

    • @goodmanmthiyane5611
      @goodmanmthiyane5611 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ❤ if there was something called hell,I was going to say they Will rot in hell

    • @sarahmelodingvirginia2043
      @sarahmelodingvirginia2043 ปีที่แล้ว

      tumelo said the GUN had a wheel ( like chicco s gun)
      mangena is attending CASE as an ACCUSE 😮that case is still ON😎
      Usually in THIS CASE POLICE 👮‍♀️👮‍♂️ L I E😢 I DON'T TRUST ANY MOER SE POLIESIE NIX

  • @mpoleen978
    @mpoleen978 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mangena throwing his career away for some change 🙄

    • @Userde989
      @Userde989 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Which means he does these kind of corruptions

  • @MncedisiGebashe
    @MncedisiGebashe ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Mangena cannot be a player and a referee he do ballistic send😢them to Cleveland and Gininda brings it back to him for safe keeping it does not add up

  • @asoganperumal4327
    @asoganperumal4327 ปีที่แล้ว

    wonder where is the bullet projectile that hit the tile...

  • @LuckyMahonga
    @LuckyMahonga ปีที่แล้ว

    They bought mangena now benza utumelo mkhovu amanga seyiqiniso

  • @sibongilemabaso2250
    @sibongilemabaso2250 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hayibo 😮

  • @Userde989
    @Userde989 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    mangena is bloody lying because he checked the planted evidence we not fools and Mangena is Ginindas friend

  • @sithembisophewa9380
    @sithembisophewa9380 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Nobody saw a nine millimeter in that house but a gun with a wheel! This is obsessed!

  • @simonedeacon5232
    @simonedeacon5232 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The gun found at suspect no 3's house killed Senzo, why has it taken them so long to prove this? So many questions. Something is very wrong with this trial, did suspect no 3 kill Senzo in a struggle and why did no one see the suspects running away. I still feel that the real story is something we might never know. Why did his closest friends and KK phone everyone except the right people ambulance and police ?? Sim card swops etc etc Senzo's brother said KK would never have arranged for Senzo to be killed. Many people think KK drove him to the hospital to save his life, maybe so but she could have driven him to the hospital to make sure he was not found in the house by the police because of she was scared of what would be found. House was cleaned, items thrown away. This trial is a huge puzzle. My thoughts are with Senzo's family, his dad passed away. His mom has not seen justice in 10 years. I hope whoever did this is locked away for a very long time and never let out. We lost a very talented young man.

    • @Userde989
      @Userde989 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because they were pinning every one ,these bloody criminals,idiots,Gininda and Mangena and the whole dirty crew

    • @ryanchikomba597
      @ryanchikomba597 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brother if even Longwe is found guilty like we believe hê his. We will still never know what really happened in that house. Only the people who were there when the crime was commited know the truth. It's like that with every case.

    • @bonnymathebula007
      @bonnymathebula007 ปีที่แล้ว

      Longwe or Kelly cannot pay all the people in the house & neighbours enough money, including all these police officers & prosecutors to fabricate all this evidence in their favour.

  • @ndumisomajola8043
    @ndumisomajola8043 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This Mangena guy's a professional liar, The gun entered th body at 1.34 m, nd exited nd 1,26m ...then it hit th door at 1,0 m exactly running at a downward direction.....So, how did it end up being found on top of th cupboards behind th glass jars?
    1. It ddnt hit even 1 glass jar on top of dat cupboard?
    2. How dd it change th direction frm going dwnwards to be sliding across again until the cuphoards , coz cupboards r usually 900mm frm th ground.
    So if there were glass jars dat were on top of th cupboard, dat bullet wud've hit them while traveling cos there was only a 100mm depth frm th door hole to th cupboards....
    Nd I wud like to knw th distance from th bullet hole on th door to where th bullet was found on top of those cupboards .
    This guy was wrkng wth Gininda who by all look of things is a crooked cop, nothng seems to be true here!!

    • @TukakgomoEnterprise
      @TukakgomoEnterprise ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the 1st bullet hit the floor and end up at cupboard and the 2nd one that’s the one that hit senzo and the door

    • @ndumisomajola8043
      @ndumisomajola8043 ปีที่แล้ว

      @user-rs3po2ee3s OH!! Mayb I ddnt get to understand this properly, so th one dat hit senzo was found where?

  • @MonicaNtuli-i1q
    @MonicaNtuli-i1q ปีที่แล้ว +5

    All in all I believe Sfiso Meyiwa I don't care about all tricks that are happening in this case

  • @LuckyMahonga
    @LuckyMahonga ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Accused no 3 has nothing to do with the senzo meyiwa death that mangena is just telling the court lies uzoboshwa naye the list is piling up for amanga aluhlaza

  • @MncedisiGebashe
    @MncedisiGebashe ปีที่แล้ว +19

    if this is what Mangena and Gininda do every day they are having a corrupt working relationship

    • @sarahmelodingvirginia2043
      @sarahmelodingvirginia2043 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes of course yes100%

    • @Siba_02
      @Siba_02 ปีที่แล้ว

      Very true 🤞this is how the work, they mislead the people this is what they did in DRC, they only work with cover ups Corrupt Cops 🚮

  • @marting9600
    @marting9600 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    These guys are innocent in this.
    Khumalos I really don't know what the old Lady is still hiding the truth, but hope she'll be honest when called upon the witness stand

  • @MphoD-fx3gq
    @MphoD-fx3gq ปีที่แล้ว +14

    When the ballistic expect want to find the bullet position from the ricochet point, the victim must stand straight up to align the hole on the door. But the victim standing position will not correspond with accused 2 or 3 height. To link the accused the victim must bend forward. Bending forward will alter the trajectory of the bullet. Why are they using both positions to achieve different results. The pathologist says the victim was standing upright, which may align to the position of the bullet head. That scenario throws off the accused.

    • @bonnymathebula007
      @bonnymathebula007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But the witness has already stated that the hight of the accused alone would not be sufficient to link him as the shooter. We can be of the same hight but our hands & shoulder position be different when we pull the trigger.
      In a scuffle, you can’t shoot as if you’re on a shooting range training. The accused’s arm position could have been anywhere when he pulled the trigger.
      And that explains why one shot was fired directly on the ground.

    • @MphoD-fx3gq
      @MphoD-fx3gq ปีที่แล้ว

      @bonnymathebula7077 The hole on. The door is 1.1m, the wound entrance is 1.2m. Fire arm was in acute angle. Deceased was standing upright. If he is places against the door the exit wound is 6cm high. You move him ffd to get the correct trajectory. A short person would find it difficult to tilt the gun to the acute angle

    • @MphoD-fx3gq
      @MphoD-fx3gq ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @bonnymathebula7077 The only instrument for fishing expedition for person of interest was height. It is always a problem to use a forensic expert for investigation, they were searching for convicted people to fit the profile. There is no testimony that the reconstruction was done independently of the accused. Yesterday testimony was tailor-made to close the gaps of a cover up.

    • @nette2144
      @nette2144 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MphoD-fx3gqBrilliant comments Mpho. Even Stevie can see that there was a cover up. Those 5 guys have nothing to do with that man’s death.

  • @melissatwalo1398
    @melissatwalo1398 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Accused number 3 is very short,it wouldn't be difficult to describe him none of the people in the house described him

    • @ngqabuthodube2068
      @ngqabuthodube2068 ปีที่แล้ว

      Guys his hands were up. Let’s not think that his hands were down

    • @BeeKay542
      @BeeKay542 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And very light in complexion. That's what Mnisi tried to socilitate last,you can't miss that description

  • @nokuzolamaphakela9822
    @nokuzolamaphakela9822 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    All the people in the house not even one is willing to just tell the truth because if we going to be hearing possibilities then will never know the truth feel sorry for Senzo's mother and brother they should let this go and so they can have peace

  • @MncedisiGebashe
    @MncedisiGebashe ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Mangena is lying he is eluding the fact that a revolver does not eject cartridges as well

    • @ezaius2011
      @ezaius2011 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @user-rneg7dw2x that is something the defence has to pick.

  • @mazandlovu8174
    @mazandlovu8174 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    baze bazigebengu omangena kazi bayothini kuthixo engabe bayamazi yini loyothixo

  • @chukuannah3835
    @chukuannah3835 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This man he's lying 😢 so much arrest him to liar to court please this is really rubbish

    • @nomusamazibuko7846
      @nomusamazibuko7846 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      He's Gininda's puppet this one. We are not to be fooled

    • @sarahmelodingvirginia2043
      @sarahmelodingvirginia2043 ปีที่แล้ว

      He in not a bin rubbish
      He is toilets rubbish
      Any way let them LIE

  • @Nobuhlebendalo
    @Nobuhlebendalo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Honestly there's more questions than answers... pure confusion but lets wait and see!

  • @nelingwenya4250
    @nelingwenya4250 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I dont believe this
    Waze wanebhadi uSenzo nkosiui

  • @Siba_02
    @Siba_02 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm sorry Manqoba you are wrong when you say Zandie said she heard two shorts, she said the first short spark hit her on the leg, then she ran to the Bathroom, she heard the second one, and she heard the third one. The third one sounded different like Dufff it means that's the one that shot Senzo. Not 2 they were 3 shorts.

  • @robinjordaan5461
    @robinjordaan5461 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is strange... If the gun wasn't a revolver what happened to the casings? Witnesses testified it was a revolver?!

  • @thembazincume6652
    @thembazincume6652 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The gun kill Senzo is revolver 😂

  • @moetitekanyo400
    @moetitekanyo400 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Without being sentimental i don't think all people defending this accused, got a simple matric, shame on you

  • @philshongwe8835
    @philshongwe8835 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Ofcourse the bullet will match the gun, thats the main aim, thats why the guns had t be swopped

  • @mufamadiprecious3528
    @mufamadiprecious3528 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    NCA your the best your reporter's is number 1.

  • @masochas1314
    @masochas1314 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The defence may still stand by what they said earlier: gun switched or bullet planted. However this gun is alledged to have been used again in 2015 which suggests that it had not been recoverd yet. Chris Mangena even thought the way the bullet hit the floor, the one who fired may have scars caused by the bullet, and it was indeed found to be so. We can now see where the state was going with this whole confusing case!

    • @ryanchikomba597
      @ryanchikomba597 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice theory. You are saying the one who fired the first shot on floor had scars? Cause I heard Magena say none of the alleged intruders had scars.

    • @ryanchikomba597
      @ryanchikomba597 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      When you say "it was indeed found to be so" You mean the person with the scars was the shooter? Only Zandi had the leg scars so u mean Zandi was the shooter.

    • @papimphahlele8166
      @papimphahlele8166 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Eish...this is becoming very confusing.. So it is possible that we all are speculating wrong things... Zandi may be the shooter 🤔😳

    • @masochas1314
      @masochas1314 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What I'm saying is that the state actually see accuse no 3 as their man. They are trying very hard to build their case around him!

  • @bebrotheservant
    @bebrotheservant ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your reporter is biased, why is he trying to make conclusion?

  • @syviennentombentshamotsau2130
    @syviennentombentshamotsau2130 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's obvious he was shot at short range because that house /kitchen is small

  • @makeyray7378
    @makeyray7378 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Iam not convinced the 2 police as witnesses said the gun was not linked to senzos shooting today it is linked watt the hell is going on the system is corrupt

    • @siviwembatane3600
      @siviwembatane3600 ปีที่แล้ว

      Magena is full on nonsensical lied, because indeed this guy wasn't link suddenly Mangena is linked....

  • @Mbali-ho6bw
    @Mbali-ho6bw ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Mangena is lying

  • @mazandlovu8174
    @mazandlovu8174 ปีที่แล้ว

    akuhlangani zikhohlakali mangena nogininda kushukuthi baningi abantu nibagila seniyaziwa ukuthi you use brown envelopes to sort everything defence should plis appoint their own expects not these crooks

  • @sibongilemabaso2250
    @sibongilemabaso2250 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Insumansumane ke le case 😮

  • @RufusMogale-dp6ge
    @RufusMogale-dp6ge ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi mangena is laying he captured by General Kininda the wild dog who is frustrated all. And dragging this case 636. We want CASE 375 to be opened. Case closed.

  • @user-ws6xc6el2t
    @user-ws6xc6el2t ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why not show the clip of the judge handling the gun and also the blue box containing the bullets. He never said the shooter was taller Senzo could have been bending forward

    • @justLungelo
      @justLungelo ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Remember there’s a witness that said he saw someone with white T-shirt standing with his back towards the door before the shorts went off. Senzo was the one wearing a white T shirt.

    • @nellydyaloyi5028
      @nellydyaloyi5028 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thats where m confused cz now these expert are testifying opposite, first time to hear the door was opened hehaaa

    • @WigglebiggleShortOFF
      @WigglebiggleShortOFF ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@justLungwazi the witness said he saw him standing against the WINDOW. The witness was looking from the neighbors house.

    • @justLungelo
      @justLungelo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WigglebiggleShortOFF The witness was looking through the window but the person with the white t shirt was against the door. The witness in talking about is the same witness that went looking for the suspects in the park.

  • @HETTIEPUSHO.2021EILEEN
    @HETTIEPUSHO.2021EILEEN ปีที่แล้ว +1

    PLEASE ARREST LONGWE MXM

  • @thulanidngubane8603
    @thulanidngubane8603 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excuse my ignorance. Spray and pray is when the prosecutor. In this case Baloi😂 has suspect number one on the stand ???? If mangena was so accurate in his investigation. Why charge suspect number one??? If not spray and pray theory is not employed by Baloi😂😂 where are the cartridges if the crime scene was not tempered with by rogue police😂 mangena is inventing a pistol with a wheel.😂😂 New type of handgun 🤣🤣🤷

  • @mxolisiinnocent1995
    @mxolisiinnocent1995 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am trying visualise a person holding a gun and dicharging it at 90degrees to the floor risking shooting himself on the foot.. unless the bullet that hit the floor was discharged during the scuffle between the deceased and the perpetrator, after which the deceased was forced to the floor on one knew or any position that may justify the angle of the bullet that penetrated his body.

  • @mabelpiki2430
    @mabelpiki2430 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    no blood on the bullet though ....

  • @nette2144
    @nette2144 ปีที่แล้ว

    How did Mangena know about the gun and that it had not been destroyed yet?

  • @thembazincume6652
    @thembazincume6652 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Mangena is a lair 😂😂

  • @Siba_02
    @Siba_02 ปีที่แล้ว

    They must not Run away on the fact that the Revolver was used on the scene, not 9mm.

  • @octaviaolpa219
    @octaviaolpa219 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kudlalwa ngathi e South Africa 😢

  • @merle-wq9ir
    @merle-wq9ir ปีที่แล้ว

    Something positive but where will it t🎉ake the case 😂😂

  • @HETTIEPUSHO.2021EILEEN
    @HETTIEPUSHO.2021EILEEN ปีที่แล้ว

    O BUWA MASEPA BALLISTIC EO MXM

    • @nette2144
      @nette2144 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree with u. He is talking nonsense. I can’t wait for the defence ballistic expert!

  • @dineshanpillay5944
    @dineshanpillay5944 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Took us 10 years to find that out, Jesus anc has really made every institution a joke, when are they gonna finish this bloody court case

  • @brianluthuli4662
    @brianluthuli4662 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I knew it was him suspect number 3 everybody talking about dreadlocks even his X girlfriend

    • @rithas1802
      @rithas1802 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Accused 3 was only 20 years at the time, apparently he had a long beard at the time???😢😢😢😢How

    • @Dzhambila
      @Dzhambila ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rithas180220 years old don’t have beards ?

    • @CassieDlamini
      @CassieDlamini ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​​@@rithas1802Ntanzi (accused number 2) was 20 at the time. Ncube was 29 years

    • @nicetravels
      @nicetravels ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The gun that shot senzo had a wheel why u forget so easily

  • @NoleenReyneck-ti6pz
    @NoleenReyneck-ti6pz ปีที่แล้ว

    This case waste of time and money

  • @rithas1802
    @rithas1802 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The gun was destroyed in 2017.. Twists and turns

  • @Sammy_SAA
    @Sammy_SAA ปีที่แล้ว

    Mangena said the bullet doesn't match the gun.

  • @Maduvha25
    @Maduvha25 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Shame on South Africans who are part of defending those criminals who are charged

    • @sambieakweenda3509
      @sambieakweenda3509 ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly my point

    • @ndinaejunior9506
      @ndinaejunior9506 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Being a criminal doesn’t mean that they killed Senso, SA’s are defending them in this case. Don’t generalise issues

    • @praisegodmvubu3217
      @praisegodmvubu3217 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As criminals as they are maybe, but having followed this case thus far, I am in no opinion that these guys killed Senzo Meyiwa. As a country we are taken for a ride la.

    • @Userde989
      @Userde989 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Fuseki

    • @praisegodmvubu3217
      @praisegodmvubu3217 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Userde989 But I don't think you meant to say that. Akushiwo kimi lokho .

  • @gringowotshela7745
    @gringowotshela7745 ปีที่แล้ว

    There was a struggle between Senzo and the shooter. He doesn’t have to be tall.

    • @davidmashiyi6679
      @davidmashiyi6679 ปีที่แล้ว

      i agree with you. Senzo could have slipped

  • @GossiphiveEnt
    @GossiphiveEnt ปีที่แล้ว

    Inganekwane….

  • @noluvuyomalumbezo3747
    @noluvuyomalumbezo3747 ปีที่แล้ว

    I dont trust Mangena

    • @nette2144
      @nette2144 ปีที่แล้ว

      They picked him based on his expertise thinking he’d be able to use the sophisticated jargon to confuse everyone. However, they got the right one on a wrong day. He is just doing tongue twisters here. Senzo has ancestors, and they will not rest. SAPS have no integrity.

  • @elizabethmakaleng267
    @elizabethmakaleng267 ปีที่แล้ว

    ?????????????Ballistic

  • @zuludaniel7941
    @zuludaniel7941 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Mangena is just great...

  • @nomathembagalela8041
    @nomathembagalela8041 ปีที่แล้ว

    If the gun that was brought by Mangena is the one that shot Senzo how did it get into the hands of the shooter? Amazing 🥱