Instead of eating up runtime in the video addressing the comments I made about the melee system, I figured I would just type something here. I think I fundamentally misunderstood the melee combat in this game. Instead of dueling, it's more of a means to control massive hordes of enemies. When you are leveling for the very first time, those massive hordes don't really exist. The result is just spamming light attacks on brainless enemies. We were always underleveled for the content that we were doing in the first video, but missions on Uprising and Malice don't really have a lot of enemy density. There are so many different options for you to pick with the melee combat, which I didn't yet understand. I do think that they need to do a better job at onboarding new players into this game, though. They don't spell it out for you whatsoever. I mean, the Mourningstar doesn't even have a minimap! Anyways, I was definitely wrong, but at the same time I was not intentionally picking cakewalk missions. We were simply brand new to the game, and super low level. BTW, should I do another video doing where it is pure endgame content? Just let me know! I'd like to experiment with some builds, as well as other classes
Once you get over the initial hurdle of learning the system of the game, it becomes extremely addictive and fun, you're new to it dude, it's understandable that you didn't know what was going on. 100% you should make more Darktide videos, it's a great game and you make great videos to go with it, and the endgame is frantic and nonstop. As a veteran main, I would recommend either the recon lasgun, plasma gun or boltgun with the power sword for endgame
As for the onboarding I think the game was designed with the understanding that most people playing it were probably Vermintide players... regardless of whether that's true or not. It's an easy mistake to make as a developer when you're so engrossed in your subgenre for years and years that you forget that the average customer has never actually played this kind of game before.
There's this paradox regarding the difficulty in Darktide where 5s are easier than 4s because if you queue for a 5, it's way more likely you end up with teammates that actually know what they're doing.
This is real, I usually do my first game on 3/4 to warmup, 80% of the time on 3 I’m the last one standing multiple times. Nothing against casual players but a good team makes 5 a breeze.
@@robertflanagan2335 Exactly. Also don't think they're aware that Aurics are only level thirty players. And also on weekends you get a big influx of relatively inexperienced players and the average skill level goes down, but that's probably most online games I guess
Going off my memory of the last video and the beginning if this one, the problem was that people just reacted to the "Combat sucks" part but completely ignored the "This harder difficulty makes the combat matter now" part.
@@SirDimetrious Yeah I'm paraphrasing off of memory, but I do remember the other part referencing how the higher difficulty makes things matter more or something like that. I don't feel like searching for quotes when I just type up something in 30 seconds. I was surprised to see so few commentors reacting to that part, since it was in that same video.
@@SirDimetriousyeah, dueling saber is excellent against single targets more than hordes. Easily spammable special that sorta combos with your stabs and staggers everything short of bosses. Does considerable damage to heads, even against Flak and Carapace. Honestly a personal favorite of mine.
@@SirDimetrious you can forwards strafe dodge into literal sniper shots and they miss. dodge gives you s, which I think get extended by mobility bonus of your currently active weapon (more doge range - longer animation)
@@chetmanley1885the low level combat mechanics haven't changed but the revamped skill trees, better balanced weapons, and higher enemy densities of auric missions have had a profound impact on the gameplay. It doesn't even feel like the same game to me in its current state
For your first time, that was a pretty clean Auric Maelstrom! Especially around the 12 minute mark when you were picking off that horde as they were chasing you, it can sometimes be easy to get greedy and go all in and stand your ground, but moving backwards is always the right move in that situation so you can bait out some good punish windows. I think that the one tip that will fundamentally change how you play is to just spam your ultimate whenever possible and grab talents / curios that reduce ultimate cooldown. A lot of new players hold onto it until there's a million enemies, a pack of crushers, or a boss, but if you keep pumping out stuff like Voice of Command, you'll greatly increase your team's survivability and damage output not just for those sticky situations, but for the entire game. Also was a very fun watch, can't wait to see more DT content in the future!
yeah my fight or flight instincts were freakign out every time he heard/saw a poxburster and had VoC ready to use and didn't use it. Gold toughness is really good! it prevents all toughness-piercing health damage from bursts, snipers, and exploding flamer tanks! Put that shit up pre-emptively and constantly and your team will be unimaginably more durable
What a character arc. At the beginning he's only light attack spamming but by the time he fights the patrol he manages every button except special attack, which would have helped a lot but in a way even more impressive. Keep going man one more and you'll have made the big E proud.
The specials in this game actually are less dangerous individually here than L4D, the difference is in L4D you only ever have 1 or 2 special per player. Here you can get 3-10 specials per player just absolutely screwing up your day all at once when the Director is feeling like you need to die.
@@SuperhotdogZz Then add in a disabler or a grenadier so you can't focus on actually dealing with them and have to keep running around losing focus and your chance of dying increases so much.
I was playing a game with a bunch of other high level players and THERE WERE 500 HOUNDS. it was hordes upon hordes upon hordes of them. I was lucky enough to time a grenade throw at a chokepoint and it filled up the kill feed with nothing but hounds.
Watching him eat ort shoot every poxburster was painful. I wanted to control him Ratatouille-style and shove it for him. That's actually the bare minimum skill gap between Heresy and Malice+ players actually.
1:54 hahahahaha yes, I do that drop down with primed grenade in hand because sometimes the game's just like, "now I know it's your first game of the night . . . but what about 7 Crushers, 5 Bulwarks and 13 Mauelrs with 17 Ragers patroling right behind them and 6 back to back hordes" sometimes you just HAVE to get out of that corner FAST.
As of right now Darktide feel way better then Space Marine 2. It has better mob variety, better skill tree, better classes, better music and overall better combat for me. It's also good that you don't get stun locked as super easily like in Space Marine 2 and you don't die in like 3 or 5 hits.
There are many things you still probably don't know, for example dueling sword alt attack can stagger even the large ogryn crusher overhead attack(if you hit the head) while more-quickly giving you Uncanny Strike stacks without negatively affecting dps much if at all. This is especially useful against berserker type enemies. Block is 360 degrees(costs more if you're not looking at the enemy) but you don't need to block at all; you should push - which counts as block during the action, often what you can't interrupt by pushing also can't be blocked(or costs too much to block). Karktide community tends to be trash but at least it's not space marine 2 community who are allergic to in depth mechanics and difficulty.
Space Marine 2 attracted a lot of people who just recently decided to leave AAA games. I understand why they are frustrated and will be patient with them. Most of them complain before they discover fencing weapons and give some thought to stacking perks…and to work as a team. Passing on team buffs, team healing, and extra revives in favor of making yourself a glass cannon is stupid in a game where everything you ignore can kill you pretty quickly. Is Dark Tide an improvement over verminitide? That game felt flat…didn’t hook me. Felt like I was cutting through paper. This looks more weighty. I dunno, I don’t like FPS, typically because it feels like I’m skates. Still, I’m probably gonna buy it and enjoy it. These 40k games are just a breath of fresh air. I played inquisitor, and even though it had its problems, it did Diablo with guns really, really well and there was just tons to do.
@@MantelarI felt darktide was a massive improvement over vermintide. It feels more mature, the melee combat feels more in-depth and weighty, the rpg and class-building mechanics are deeper and more varied, and the range of weapons allows for more fun - it’s nice that most weapons aren’t locked to each class (aside from ogryn but he is basically an ogre lol), so there’s at least some overlap in weapons between each class, allowing for unique but familiar experiences when playing different roles. The grind is kinda crazy but no worse than other multiplayer games with gear upgrade mechanics, I think it’s necessary to give the game longevity And retention as it doesn’t make it’s money as a live service (thank fuck) or through constant paid dlc
@@joebenjamin7465 yes, that was the other thing that turned me off to verminitide 2…all that DLC. Mission DLC I get. But paying for classes and then the cash currency…and any day 1 DLC…ugh. I think you got Darktide sale. Thanks for replying
tbf to space marine the entire appeal of the game is that it's a return to a time where games were simpler and just focused on being pure fun. I put around 80 hours into both now and while i think darktide is the better game i still enjoy space marine 2 for it's "simple" mechanics
@@cybericarus1476 the issue is SM2 is already simple enough yet this generation that grew up on pay2win phone clicker games kept crying to make it even more simple... (see how many people were whining about gunstrike not having i-frame)
This is some great stuff man. As a veteran of this game watching your improvements of the games movement system and enemy awareness is definitely a fun ride to watch. If you make more videos on this game I definitely recommend the Ogryn Class as the big man is a simple but fun experience.
That said, be careful with the Ogryn. It's a noob trap. A lot of people play it, because it can tank hits in 3, and some in 4, but don't learn how to block or dodge. But avoiding damage is the most important skill in Darktide, and one you got that down, it''s a solid foundation on which to build everything else.
Been watching for years since Destiny, BUT NGL, me and the Mrs been loving the newer content, edits are hilarious, humour is on point. BO6 vids have me roaring, keep up the good work fella!
10:29 and 13:14 and at end that’s me DAYSTAR y’all dead as can be my first auric maelstrom. I died 3 min in and these guys carried me rest of matches. Y’all were awesome
Much better there at the end. You could see him to start instinctively dodging nets and sniper timed shots. And tactical retreating funneling the enemy into a straight line. He's getting better.
I used to be a crucible grinder which was when I found this channel. Now that I lost the D2 drive im so happy ur doing variety covering basically all the games I currently play too 😂
Bro, we will NEVER be upset with more Darktide content. It's a pretty goated game that's fun for all levels of play. We need to support it more if we hope to have more of it.
If nobody told you this. The veterans shout with the duty and honor node, can save someone the damage from a pox burster or sniper. Any source of gold toughness like the shout or zealots relic can negate the health damage from pox bursters and snipers. The toughness will be gone but they will take no health damage :)
This looks addictive AF and makes me wish I still had friends that played these types of co-op games, lol. Also anything with Outlander is an instant classic. Hope to see more of these!
5:46 Just so you know, the special attack on dueling sabers can stun Maulers/Crushers/Ragers and stop mutants mid charge and you can free grabbed players, but you need to hit the head.
One character fully leveled...nice job. Let's get some mo'! Ok, have to add - going back to you laughing at Scab Bomberman in the first vid - chef's kiss. I was thinking, waiiit for iiiit!
The whole time during that maelstrom I was saying to myself “he’s starting to believe!” Heavy metal missions are so fun level up an ogryn and use the pickaxe and those missions become a cakewalk. Good shit though very cool character arch
Here are the basic stuff you need to learn: 1. Weaving in dodges periodically while in combat 2. Learning the proper combat strings for specific situations (i.e. on Dueling Sword, heavy for elites, lights for hordes) 2. Learning how to identify (often using their sounds) and deal with each special enemy EDIT: Damn you improved a lot by the end of the video. Nevermind!
Hint: After Stabbing with the Dueling Sword use your Special attack and it stabs again instantly for less damages, but it stuns if you hit the head with it. So, you can use it to stun armored enemies over and over.
Space Marine 2 needs atleast another 3-4 months of balance and contents before it can be called a truly good games. I got to Ruthless and relic with the Melta before patch 4.0 dropped. I know they've fixed most of the bullshit that 4.0 brought with 4.1 just a week after but it was so damn soul-crushingly tedious to play I just kinda lost motivation to get in game. Darktide was the same at launch but now after 2+ years of contents and QoL update the late players are eating good. I've started doing Auric Mealstrom again and having a blast.
@MiarmudVon-v5z Yeah SM2 are kinda in an identity crisis. The power fantasy vibes are thick with all the chad visual customizations and the crunching, crisp finish animations. And then you get in game and it's Elden Ring with you being lvl 5 trying to solo Melania. Fucking trash gameplay.... Atleast in Darktide I feel like a proper badass when I pulled clutchs. In SM2 it just feels... tedious because of all the HP sponges.
NIce job on getting past Auric Maelstrom.....now try to do it in a public Lobby group , you are forced to up your gaming skills to help carry the team or you will not make it, it's pretty damn satisfying!
Super quick tip for dealing with trappers and hounds, just drill it into your brain to instinctually dodge left or right of wherever you hear the dog pounce snarl or the trappers net winding up, you literally don’t even have to look at them if you’re busy with a horde
Love to see you playing Darktide, one of my favourite coop games. A cool thing about the game is that there is mod support, so you can for example add a Scoreboard to see your stats at the end of a mission or add Healthbars to the enemies so you can better see how much damage you are actually doing. This kind of information is in my opinion almost necessary if you want to improve at the game, in order to do some of the higher difficulty missions.
Ooh we defo needa see more maelstroms, or even just 4 and 5 difficulty. Maybe even a little mix up on your build. You may be surprised how the game changes when you have to work with different tools. I don't wanna discount your the achievements you made here, but the Dueling Sword is one of the strongest weapons out there and very versatile. These days I tighten the belt by using less overall useful weapons and it's a great way to challenge myself. Great work out there inmate.
Some tips; You can block in every direction even if it's behind you Always dodge when you hear the trapper noise regardless of if you think it's for you or not Learn to slide dodge, you go further
ngl, hound levels became easier the moment you realize your push is an AOE lel Also you can block from in every direction but backstabs drain your stam faster.
Damn after space marine 2 came out, I knew D2 youtubers were getting into warhammer but I did not expect Darktide 2. It would be dope to see a collab of youtubers doing vermintide 2 chaos waste!
Glad to see you having fun, in spite of the haters on the first video (self included). Darktide is such an interesting game in that it's honestly not difficult to grasp the concepts of the gameplay, but the execution is everything. Especially in the higher difficulties, as you've found out.... I've been subscribed for a minute and enjoy seeing your vids pop up in my feed, and Id love to see you stick with it. But ultimately the most important thing is for you to do what you feel is right, what you find joy in. If that's not Darktide, that's okay too.
A Solid Tip i have learned playing is to abuse/spam your abilities to keep hoard control and momentum going, allowing you to kill faster then the enemy can pile on.
This game is a load of fun and I read the pinned comment. Honestly, the game doesnt really explain what "Dueling" is or what "Penetration" is and having weapons with those stats can be confusing starting off. I honestly got what you were saying in the other video because I too had the same issue with not understanding the melee system at first. I hope to see you try more endgame stuff when you get to it. Dont let the Chaos Spawn bite!
That bomber, flamer, and trapper play on you honestly impressed me. The AI is always derpy for me. I never get outplayed, just blasted through the hoard while I'm stuck in as my Zealot. That's my only complaint. Their net needs collision, or I need to be able to dodge through enemies.
One thing to improve your survival is using curios that give more toughness, health and wounds (the health segments) as they increase your number of downs before being captured. That and defer to blocking and dodging. Damage resistance against specials and general shooters are your friend.
Really great video! I have 800ish hours and I know how horribly I played when I first started when the game was launched lol. Everyone had a rough upbringing with darktide lol. Good job besting Auric. I noticed you seemed to be using the same weapons and build the whole time, which is great since your comfortable with them. Don't be afraid to try different builds and weapons that can have other synergies! The game can be really satisfying when you experiment with the mechanics and alternate builds and such. There are are a lot of great resources out there! I'm really happy you're enjoying this silly little game :)
Well done, the Emprah would be proud. Pro tip: Put the "ping" function on your middle mouse button so you can easily highlight dangerous enemies in hordes mid combat.
just some helpful tips about curios. 1. wounds usually determine how many times you get incapacitated here in 3:54 you were running with 2 wounds standard for human characters. If you equip a +1 wound curios you would get 3 bars meaning in that clip instead of getting killed you'll just be incapacitated. Now there's more advanced stuff about zealot tech tree that relates to wounds but I'll leave it to you to discover it for yourself. Essentially if your new and keep getting taken down in higher difficulties its sometimes worth having a wound curios over toughness or health curios. 2. Stamina curios it might not seem much sometimes equipping this can be a lifesaver. Having that extra bit of stamina to push multiple poxburster, being able to cover more ground and block that extra melee attack from a hord to make a decision can really make things a bit easier.
Fun fact: shout stacks with itself. Both your allies's shouts will stack with yours and your own shout can stack with itself. With the roght build and circumstance you can have like +150 toughness just from your own shout stacking 3 times. As vet, always be shouting. Yell, constantly. Unless youre planning on using it for forcing an opening (shout to make it safe to reload, for example), just spam that key.
Brother, I have 1300 hours and auric maelstrom still scares me.... as it should... you have to be that meme of the gamer sweating profusely for like 30 minutes and sometimes 1 small tiny mistake can cost you the run. It's insane though, and if you get through it you feel so god damn accomplished its hard to put into words.
Now you've tasted the meat of it. Longevity of the game comes from if you like and understand how different builds and classes mesh together but frankly it's just fun to preform.
Auric Maelstrom is tough, but most of the really good players only play those and Auric 5's. At the very least the teammates tend to be more consistent up top. Also, you've gotta be spamming Voice of Command more. Great for pushing Bursters and Dogs that catch you off guard or for throwing people off a downed teammate for just long enough to revive them. Keep at it, you'll get into the swing of things with some practice.
The game most definitely had a rocky launch and I’ll even these past couple years have been with their issues. But the game is incredible. The core combat to me feels like the best if any horde co-op game. I’m happy to see people rediscovering or finding out about Darktide and giving it a try. As an over 1k hour player I love seeing new players come in and improve. Good luck fighting for Hive Tertium verlet. May the Omnissiah bless your weaponry.
Funny video, i really enjoyed this one and the previous video you did on Darktide. Its not a bad Vet build at all, but it does look to be very specialized towards a quick swap playstyle which might not be the most optimal for a newer player, but hey, if it works it works.
the depths of melee also depends on your weapon. The dueling sword is pretty straight forward, but some weapon requires combinations of light, heavy, special and push for hoards or for heavier
Instead of eating up runtime in the video addressing the comments I made about the melee system, I figured I would just type something here. I think I fundamentally misunderstood the melee combat in this game. Instead of dueling, it's more of a means to control massive hordes of enemies. When you are leveling for the very first time, those massive hordes don't really exist. The result is just spamming light attacks on brainless enemies. We were always underleveled for the content that we were doing in the first video, but missions on Uprising and Malice don't really have a lot of enemy density. There are so many different options for you to pick with the melee combat, which I didn't yet understand. I do think that they need to do a better job at onboarding new players into this game, though. They don't spell it out for you whatsoever. I mean, the Mourningstar doesn't even have a minimap! Anyways, I was definitely wrong, but at the same time I was not intentionally picking cakewalk missions. We were simply brand new to the game, and super low level.
BTW, should I do another video doing where it is pure endgame content? Just let me know! I'd like to experiment with some builds, as well as other classes
Once you get over the initial hurdle of learning the system of the game, it becomes extremely addictive and fun, you're new to it dude, it's understandable that you didn't know what was going on.
100% you should make more Darktide videos, it's a great game and you make great videos to go with it, and the endgame is frantic and nonstop. As a veteran main, I would recommend either the recon lasgun, plasma gun or boltgun with the power sword for endgame
Yea gladly make more content about Darktide, even when its chaotic it's fun to just try your own stuff and builds and way to play it
100% try hard mode karnack twins, super fun special event boss fight
More DarkTide, More Better
As for the onboarding I think the game was designed with the understanding that most people playing it were probably Vermintide players... regardless of whether that's true or not. It's an easy mistake to make as a developer when you're so engrossed in your subgenre for years and years that you forget that the average customer has never actually played this kind of game before.
die hard fan of yours for years but i stopped watching when i lost interest in d2. But i love 40k and you so im here happy to be back
omg same
same thing here
I love watching him play anything where he’s enjoying his time haha makes it a lot more enjoyable for everyone
Same
Preach brother PREACH
There's this paradox regarding the difficulty in Darktide where 5s are easier than 4s because if you queue for a 5, it's way more likely you end up with teammates that actually know what they're doing.
This is real, I usually do my first game on 3/4 to warmup, 80% of the time on 3 I’m the last one standing multiple times. Nothing against casual players but a good team makes 5 a breeze.
@@robertflanagan2335 Exactly. Also don't think they're aware that Aurics are only level thirty players. And also on weekends you get a big influx of relatively inexperienced players and the average skill level goes down, but that's probably most online games I guess
That just means you're getting carried.
@@JohnSmith-j7n noooooooooooo please believe me
@@JohnSmith-j7n i'm carrying the 4s and the 5s but the 5s are easier to carry 🤷🏼
Going off my memory of the last video and the beginning if this one, the problem was that people just reacted to the "Combat sucks" part but completely ignored the "This harder difficulty makes the combat matter now" part.
I never said combat as a whole, just that the melee combat was R2 spam.
@@SirDimetrious Yeah I'm paraphrasing off of memory, but I do remember the other part referencing how the higher difficulty makes things matter more or something like that. I don't feel like searching for quotes when I just type up something in 30 seconds.
I was surprised to see so few commentors reacting to that part, since it was in that same video.
@@SirDimetrious I think he’s saying the difficulty makes combos more valuable which make melee combat more in-depth and feel visceral.
@@SirDimetrious the dueling saber is incredibly good but it is the most spammy weapon in the game. Try heavy sword or shovel
@@SirDimetriousyeah, dueling saber is excellent against single targets more than hordes. Easily spammable special that sorta combos with your stabs and staggers everything short of bosses. Does considerable damage to heads, even against Flak and Carapace. Honestly a personal favorite of mine.
This game has become my new D2 after I quit it when Witch Queen released. I’m stoked that my fav D2 tuber is playing it
ayyy lets go
This my new left for dead.
(There’s an audio cue for the trapper shooting, if you hear it and don’t know where they are just dodge blind)
That's what I've been doing, but sometimes I dodge on the same plane that the trap is traveling on, so it still hits me :(
@SirDimetrious too real
@@SirDimetrious you can forwards strafe dodge into literal sniper shots and they miss. dodge gives you s, which I think get extended by mobility bonus of your currently active weapon (more doge range - longer animation)
the cue is inconsistent and hardly to notice, fatshark should fix it
@@SirDimetrious fair enough, just pointed it out cuz doing that has saved me a few times
I played this after your vid last week. Haven’t stopped since. Awesome game. I can’t believe I didn’t give this a chance earlier.
that's awesome to hear man! It's so much fun
It was not quite as polished as it is now, although the combat hasn't changed, so you're coming in at a good time.
Welcome, Sah
Honestly man it's good you didn't find out about it until now. The game is dramatically better than it was at launch.
@@chetmanley1885the low level combat mechanics haven't changed but the revamped skill trees, better balanced weapons, and higher enemy densities of auric missions have had a profound impact on the gameplay. It doesn't even feel like the same game to me in its current state
For your first time, that was a pretty clean Auric Maelstrom! Especially around the 12 minute mark when you were picking off that horde as they were chasing you, it can sometimes be easy to get greedy and go all in and stand your ground, but moving backwards is always the right move in that situation so you can bait out some good punish windows. I think that the one tip that will fundamentally change how you play is to just spam your ultimate whenever possible and grab talents / curios that reduce ultimate cooldown. A lot of new players hold onto it until there's a million enemies, a pack of crushers, or a boss, but if you keep pumping out stuff like Voice of Command, you'll greatly increase your team's survivability and damage output not just for those sticky situations, but for the entire game.
Also was a very fun watch, can't wait to see more DT content in the future!
yeah my fight or flight instincts were freakign out every time he heard/saw a poxburster and had VoC ready to use and didn't use it. Gold toughness is really good! it prevents all toughness-piercing health damage from bursts, snipers, and exploding flamer tanks! Put that shit up pre-emptively and constantly and your team will be unimaginably more durable
It was nice seeing you get better, well done. Dodging Trappers and Snipers, using heavy attacks on the Duelist Sword.
it's easiest weapon to use btw
My dude had the grippers, the absolute HOGS out for the ad read
the big hogs for max retention bro
What a character arc.
At the beginning he's only light attack spamming but by the time he fights the patrol he manages every button except special attack, which would have helped a lot but in a way even more impressive.
Keep going man one more and you'll have made the big E proud.
CADIA STANDS
THE PLANET BROKE BEFORE THE GUARD
Watching the beginning where you spammed lights and then the end were you actually use heavy attacks vs armored elites is 'chef's kiss'.
The specials in this game actually are less dangerous individually here than L4D, the difference is in L4D you only ever have 1 or 2 special per player. Here you can get 3-10 specials per player just absolutely screwing up your day all at once when the Director is feeling like you need to die.
4 Crusher and a bunch of Mauler at once felt like a bad joke😂
@@SuperhotdogZz Then add in a disabler or a grenadier so you can't focus on actually dealing with them and have to keep running around losing focus and your chance of dying increases so much.
I was playing a game with a bunch of other high level players and THERE WERE 500 HOUNDS. it was hordes upon hordes upon hordes of them. I was lucky enough to time a grenade throw at a chokepoint and it filled up the kill feed with nothing but hounds.
@6:02 no stamina = no block
More darktide videos please! These are such a fun watch! :)
might do another one!
okay youre pretty good you held your own
Time to start using pushes when hound or poxburster jumps on you
Me has a day 3 players smashing all the buttons on my mouse and keyboard but the push button when a poxburster is jumping at me😂
Watching him eat ort shoot every poxburster was painful. I wanted to control him Ratatouille-style and shove it for him.
That's actually the bare minimum skill gap between Heresy and Malice+ players actually.
I never push hounds, just sidestep and heavy attack while they fly past you it's really fun feels like baseball
i have 800 hours in the game, im happy to see more ppl playing it!! its a lot of fun!!!
1:54 hahahahaha yes, I do that drop down with primed grenade in hand because sometimes the game's just like, "now I know it's your first game of the night . . . but what about 7 Crushers, 5 Bulwarks and 13 Mauelrs with 17 Ragers patroling right behind them and 6 back to back hordes" sometimes you just HAVE to get out of that corner FAST.
Ooops, all Ragers!
Most cursed encounter in the game every time
As of right now Darktide feel way better then Space Marine 2. It has better mob variety, better skill tree, better classes, better music and overall better combat for me. It's also good that you don't get stun locked as super easily like in Space Marine 2 and you don't die in like 3 or 5 hits.
And also better legendary rarity gear to unlock that will give even more several different perks on top of perks
@@imsentinelprime9279 That to
@@richardkim3652 perks on top of perks on top of perks on top of perks
space marine 2 melee combat is garbage and the ranged weapons do zero damage. Looks like Saber has no knowledge at balancing stuff
I mean I feel like you die in 2 or 3 hits in this game too on the higher difficulties lol
Just found your channel and holy editing! ive got 500 hours in and been watching darktide channels lately but this really steps it up!
Thanks bro! That means a lot! I try to make the videos as entertaining as possible
Yeah, the editing is awesome and the guy is so much funny to listen, especially the girly laughter 🤣
14:19 gg bro, well done. Great editing too. I loved the bit about the scab grenadier 😂
There are many things you still probably don't know, for example dueling sword alt attack can stagger even the large ogryn crusher overhead attack(if you hit the head) while more-quickly giving you Uncanny Strike stacks without negatively affecting dps much if at all. This is especially useful against berserker type enemies.
Block is 360 degrees(costs more if you're not looking at the enemy) but you don't need to block at all; you should push - which counts as block during the action, often what you can't interrupt by pushing also can't be blocked(or costs too much to block).
Karktide community tends to be trash but at least it's not space marine 2 community who are allergic to in depth mechanics and difficulty.
Space Marine 2 attracted a lot of people who just recently decided to leave AAA games. I understand why they are frustrated and will be patient with them. Most of them complain before they discover fencing weapons and give some thought to stacking perks…and to work as a team. Passing on team buffs, team healing, and extra revives in favor of making yourself a glass cannon is stupid in a game where everything you ignore can kill you pretty quickly.
Is Dark Tide an improvement over verminitide? That game felt flat…didn’t hook me. Felt like I was cutting through paper. This looks more weighty. I dunno, I don’t like FPS, typically because it feels like I’m skates.
Still, I’m probably gonna buy it and enjoy it. These 40k games are just a breath of fresh air. I played inquisitor, and even though it had its problems, it did Diablo with guns really, really well and there was just tons to do.
@@MantelarI felt darktide was a massive improvement over vermintide. It feels more mature, the melee combat feels more in-depth and weighty, the rpg and class-building mechanics are deeper and more varied, and the range of weapons allows for more fun - it’s nice that most weapons aren’t locked to each class (aside from ogryn but he is basically an ogre lol), so there’s at least some overlap in weapons between each class, allowing for unique but familiar experiences when playing different roles. The grind is kinda crazy but no worse than other multiplayer games with gear upgrade mechanics, I think it’s necessary to give the game longevity And retention as it doesn’t make it’s money as a live service (thank fuck) or through constant paid dlc
@@joebenjamin7465 yes, that was the other thing that turned me off to verminitide 2…all that DLC. Mission DLC I get. But paying for classes and then the cash currency…and any day 1 DLC…ugh.
I think you got Darktide sale. Thanks for replying
tbf to space marine the entire appeal of the game is that it's a return to a time where games were simpler and just focused on being pure fun. I put around 80 hours into both now and while i think darktide is the better game i still enjoy space marine 2 for it's "simple" mechanics
@@cybericarus1476 the issue is SM2 is already simple enough yet this generation that grew up on pay2win phone clicker games kept crying to make it even more simple... (see how many people were whining about gunstrike not having i-frame)
This is some great stuff man. As a veteran of this game watching your improvements of the games movement system and enemy awareness is definitely a fun ride to watch. If you make more videos on this game I definitely recommend the Ogryn Class as the big man is a simple but fun experience.
That said, be careful with the Ogryn. It's a noob trap. A lot of people play it, because it can tank hits in 3, and some in 4, but don't learn how to block or dodge. But avoiding damage is the most important skill in Darktide, and one you got that down, it''s a solid foundation on which to build everything else.
Your videos are so high effort with the edits and I love them! Keep up the good work. :)
Been watching for years since Destiny, BUT NGL, me and the Mrs been loving the newer content, edits are hilarious, humour is on point. BO6 vids have me roaring, keep up the good work fella!
10:29 and 13:14 and at end that’s me DAYSTAR y’all dead as can be my first auric maelstrom. I died 3 min in and these guys carried me rest of matches. Y’all were awesome
Nothing feels better in Darktide than being the last one standing and actually make it through at the end to revive your team at a revive area.
Much better there at the end. You could see him to start instinctively dodging nets and sniper timed shots. And tactical retreating funneling the enemy into a straight line. He's getting better.
Holy shit I haven't seen you since I used to watch your Destiny 1 crucible videos a LONG time ago. Glad you're still making videos!
glad to see you come back around my man!
I used to be a crucible grinder which was when I found this channel. Now that I lost the D2 drive im so happy ur doing variety covering basically all the games I currently play too 😂
Bro, we will NEVER be upset with more Darktide content. It's a pretty goated game that's fun for all levels of play. We need to support it more if we hope to have more of it.
Good on you for acknowledging the community input and reassessing and readdressing, much respect!
If nobody told you this. The veterans shout with the duty and honor node, can save someone the damage from a pox burster or sniper. Any source of gold toughness like the shout or zealots relic can negate the health damage from pox bursters and snipers. The toughness will be gone but they will take no health damage :)
Glad you got into it
This looks addictive AF and makes me wish I still had friends that played these types of co-op games, lol. Also anything with Outlander is an instant classic. Hope to see more of these!
I don't have friends who like this game, but I have new friends every start 😂
5:46
Just so you know, the special attack on dueling sabers can stun Maulers/Crushers/Ragers and stop mutants mid charge and you can free grabbed players, but you need to hit the head.
One character fully leveled...nice job. Let's get some mo'! Ok, have to add - going back to you laughing at Scab Bomberman in the first vid - chef's kiss. I was thinking, waiiit for iiiit!
W vid brotha ☕️🗿
The whole time during that maelstrom I was saying to myself “he’s starting to believe!” Heavy metal missions are so fun level up an ogryn and use the pickaxe and those missions become a cakewalk. Good shit though very cool character arch
Here are the basic stuff you need to learn:
1. Weaving in dodges periodically while in combat
2. Learning the proper combat strings for specific situations (i.e. on Dueling Sword, heavy for elites, lights for hordes)
2. Learning how to identify (often using their sounds) and deal with each special enemy
EDIT:
Damn you improved a lot by the end of the video. Nevermind!
Hint: After Stabbing with the Dueling Sword use your Special attack and it stabs again instantly for less damages, but it stuns if you hit the head with it. So, you can use it to stun armored enemies over and over.
I could listen to you and Outlander play literally anything. Pure gold.
0:25 I’m famous! 😂
Are you the famous shivalah? Wtf I can’t believe I’m talking to a celebrity
It's a bit controversial but Darktide is lowkey better than Space Marine 2
Nah, both have theyr pro's and con's
I kinda agree
Yes... but both are fire
Space Marine 2 needs atleast another 3-4 months of balance and contents before it can be called a truly good games.
I got to Ruthless and relic with the Melta before patch 4.0 dropped. I know they've fixed most of the bullshit that 4.0 brought with 4.1 just a week after but it was so damn soul-crushingly tedious to play I just kinda lost motivation to get in game.
Darktide was the same at launch but now after 2+ years of contents and QoL update the late players are eating good.
I've started doing Auric Mealstrom again and having a blast.
@MiarmudVon-v5z Yeah SM2 are kinda in an identity crisis.
The power fantasy vibes are thick with all the chad visual customizations and the crunching, crisp finish animations.
And then you get in game and it's Elden Ring with you being lvl 5 trying to solo Melania. Fucking trash gameplay....
Atleast in Darktide I feel like a proper badass when I pulled clutchs.
In SM2 it just feels... tedious because of all the HP sponges.
NIce job on getting past Auric Maelstrom.....now try to do it in a public Lobby group , you are forced to up your gaming skills to help carry the team or you will not make it, it's pretty damn satisfying!
thats what I did essentially! Played with randoms on LFG
Super quick tip for dealing with trappers and hounds, just drill it into your brain to instinctually dodge left or right of wherever you hear the dog pounce snarl or the trappers net winding up, you literally don’t even have to look at them if you’re busy with a horde
8:30 Taiwanese feels sad ,man😢
Love to see you playing Darktide, one of my favourite coop games.
A cool thing about the game is that there is mod support, so you can for example add a Scoreboard to see your stats at the end of a mission or add Healthbars to the enemies so you can better see how much damage you are actually doing. This kind of information is in my opinion almost necessary if you want to improve at the game, in order to do some of the higher difficulty missions.
Ooh we defo needa see more maelstroms, or even just 4 and 5 difficulty. Maybe even a little mix up on your build. You may be surprised how the game changes when you have to work with different tools. I don't wanna discount your the achievements you made here, but the Dueling Sword is one of the strongest weapons out there and very versatile. These days I tighten the belt by using less overall useful weapons and it's a great way to challenge myself. Great work out there inmate.
Some tips;
You can block in every direction even if it's behind you
Always dodge when you hear the trapper noise regardless of if you think it's for you or not
Learn to slide dodge, you go further
Agreed. Kinda same with hounds. It costs nothing to be somewhere else a half second after you hear those sounds.
ngl, hound levels became easier the moment you realize your push is an AOE lel
Also you can block from in every direction but backstabs drain your stam faster.
Im glad to see you jumping back into the fray!
Gotta learn how to tech those bursters, too many people getting sent flying over railings.
appreciate the Bleach reference 3:17
What a character arc, loved it. Please do more Darktide content.
Happy to see more Darktide content.
Damn after space marine 2 came out, I knew D2 youtubers were getting into warhammer but I did not expect Darktide 2. It would be dope to see a collab of youtubers doing vermintide 2 chaos waste!
Ok... now try Vermintide 2 ;)
I need that progression rework, now!!!
Amazing game. Immensely underrated in its current form. Top difficulty stuff, particularly in the dark, is very fun.
Glad to see you having fun, in spite of the haters on the first video (self included).
Darktide is such an interesting game in that it's honestly not difficult to grasp the concepts of the gameplay, but the execution is everything. Especially in the higher difficulties, as you've found out....
I've been subscribed for a minute and enjoy seeing your vids pop up in my feed, and Id love to see you stick with it.
But ultimately the most important thing is for you to do what you feel is right, what you find joy in. If that's not Darktide, that's okay too.
That comedic timing at 2:08 where you got caught by a trapper and then another one comes out is priceless
It gives the same sense of tension a game like Helldivers gives, but with less random BS. Very fun game
A Solid Tip i have learned playing is to abuse/spam your abilities to keep hoard control and momentum going, allowing you to kill faster then the enemy can pile on.
This game is a load of fun and I read the pinned comment. Honestly, the game doesnt really explain what "Dueling" is or what "Penetration" is and having weapons with those stats can be confusing starting off. I honestly got what you were saying in the other video because I too had the same issue with not understanding the melee system at first. I hope to see you try more endgame stuff when you get to it.
Dont let the Chaos Spawn bite!
if you go to inspect screen of the weapon and mouseover for different tooltips, it tells you what its does and affect
@@tomia89 explain cleve. ;-) but i get your points, most shit gets explained. (i have 1k hours in the game)
@@tomia89 what im trying to say, some concepts arent elaborated well on imho. but most of it u can see in inspect. thats true.
Suffering Auric he has redeemed himself, The Emperor protects brother 😤🫡
*signs the aquilla*
Very happy to see you and some 40k content now that I'm done with D2 following final shape
I started playing again today and played for 4 hours straight. They've done such a good job!
A couple days ago i was in a match with someone that was singlehandedly carrying the entire team with ease.
ummm dat was pwobably me?
Ngl that auric run was clean and by the books, this games skill ceiling is huge and you climbed it with grace in a short amount of time.
Look into dodge-slide tech, and learn how to use it to weave between groups of enemies and gain extra distance
That bomber, flamer, and trapper play on you honestly impressed me. The AI is always derpy for me.
I never get outplayed, just blasted through the hoard while I'm stuck in as my Zealot. That's my only complaint. Their net needs collision, or I need to be able to dodge through enemies.
One thing to improve your survival is using curios that give more toughness, health and wounds (the health segments) as they increase your number of downs before being captured. That and defer to blocking and dodging. Damage resistance against specials and general shooters are your friend.
i enjoyed the first vid but gotta say after what you said about the snipers seeing them do that was fun
Video was fucking hilarious and it was a lot of fun watching the new player experience on higher difficulties. You have my sub.
Hell yeah brother, that’s some auric lvl gameplay we knew you had in you
Really great video! I have 800ish hours and I know how horribly I played when I first started when the game was launched lol. Everyone had a rough upbringing with darktide lol.
Good job besting Auric. I noticed you seemed to be using the same weapons and build the whole time, which is great since your comfortable with them. Don't be afraid to try different builds and weapons that can have other synergies! The game can be really satisfying when you experiment with the mechanics and alternate builds and such. There are are a lot of great resources out there! I'm really happy you're enjoying this silly little game :)
Well done, the Emprah would be proud.
Pro tip:
Put the "ping" function on your middle mouse button so you can easily highlight dangerous enemies in hordes mid combat.
just some helpful tips about curios.
1. wounds usually determine how many times you get incapacitated here in 3:54 you were running with 2 wounds standard for human characters. If you equip a +1 wound curios you would get 3 bars meaning in that clip instead of getting killed you'll just be incapacitated. Now there's more advanced stuff about zealot tech tree that relates to wounds but I'll leave it to you to discover it for yourself. Essentially if your new and keep getting taken down in higher difficulties its sometimes worth having a wound curios over toughness or health curios.
2. Stamina curios it might not seem much sometimes equipping this can be a lifesaver. Having that extra bit of stamina to push multiple poxburster, being able to cover more ground and block that extra melee attack from a hord to make a decision can really make things a bit easier.
You're slowly getting better it's great to see. Listen for audio cues and dodge more and shits on lock.
Great video Darktide is so slept on I’ve been eating good with space marine and Darktide
Darktide is one of my fav games for the last few years. Glad to see it getting good coverage.
We love seeing character development. Good on you for admitting you were wrong, I retract what I said too
Fun fact: shout stacks with itself. Both your allies's shouts will stack with yours and your own shout can stack with itself. With the roght build and circumstance you can have like +150 toughness just from your own shout stacking 3 times.
As vet, always be shouting. Yell, constantly. Unless youre planning on using it for forcing an opening (shout to make it safe to reload, for example), just spam that key.
As a Taiwanese, our secret to making 3 nanometer plasteels is small hands.
Brother, I have 1300 hours and auric maelstrom still scares me.... as it should... you have to be that meme of the gamer sweating profusely for like 30 minutes and sometimes 1 small tiny mistake can cost you the run. It's insane though, and if you get through it you feel so god damn accomplished its hard to put into words.
Now you've tasted the meat of it. Longevity of the game comes from if you like and understand how different builds and classes mesh together but frankly it's just fun to preform.
Good to see you play 40k ive been following you since the d1 montages days
going from completely fresh off the prison ship to clutching maximum clusterfucks in a week is one hell of a character development arc
Few things that could help, experiment with the push back. It has more range than you’d think.
Try using your dodges if trapped in fire.
Nice to see you continuing to explore the 40k universe! :D
11:13 hahahahah bombers are not to be insulted lol
Auric Maelstrom is tough, but most of the really good players only play those and Auric 5's. At the very least the teammates tend to be more consistent up top.
Also, you've gotta be spamming Voice of Command more. Great for pushing Bursters and Dogs that catch you off guard or for throwing people off a downed teammate for just long enough to revive them.
Keep at it, you'll get into the swing of things with some practice.
Randoms in auric maelstrom are either:
- vital parts of your team
- extra modifiers
@@willb1405 SO TRUE LMAO
The game most definitely had a rocky launch and I’ll even these past couple years have been with their issues. But the game is incredible. The core combat to me feels like the best if any horde co-op game. I’m happy to see people rediscovering or finding out about Darktide and giving it a try. As an over 1k hour player I love seeing new players come in and improve. Good luck fighting for Hive Tertium verlet. May the Omnissiah bless your weaponry.
PENANCE FOR THE EMPEROR! YOU ARE ONE OF US NOW!
dueling sword vet with VoC, a man of culture
I will always say that the best difficulty to play on in any game is the one you have the most fun with.
Funny video, i really enjoyed this one and the previous video you did on Darktide.
Its not a bad Vet build at all, but it does look to be very specialized towards a quick swap playstyle which might not be the most optimal for a newer player, but hey, if it works it works.
the depths of melee also depends on your weapon. The dueling sword is pretty straight forward, but some weapon requires combinations of light, heavy, special and push for hoards or for heavier
Its cool to see the progression of skill over time. Theres an update soon for some new maps and end game shit you could make a video on.
Hahaha 6:08 my buddy sent me your vid just so I could watch him get domed by that .50 cal great video mate!