And now look at them. These are the Bok's stats since the beginning of 2023: Played 18, won 15, lost 3 (83% win rate) Points for 593 Points against 278 Average score 33-15 So on average over the last 18 matches the Boks have won by 18 point. Madness!!
Well I hope they can turn around because world rugby is better for it. However, my concern is whether they have the feeder system for it. The Bok side turned around but at the time that side was actually already full of good players, it just needed better coaching and leadership team plus there is a factory line of rugby player production.
I am a Bok supporter living in Australia. I have many Kiwi and Aussie mates and am loving life at the moment. They now know I I felt for many years. During those bad days our stadiums were also half full while the Wallabies and All Black matches were sold out. As you guys said, people like winners! The diversity in the Bok setup as grown the playing pool in SA as well as being able to pick the right players no matter where they ply their trade. The All Blacks and Wallabies need to do the same. Go Bokke!
Wildkard ranting 😂 On one of Wildkard's videos he said his neighbours complained because he was so loud early in the morning. He was having a big rant 🤣🤣 Wildkard knows his stuff.
Fully agree. With the amount of Springboks praying before and after the game you should know your audience better, even though you might not share the same faith it is a matter of respect.
Well... The statement is true... Regardless which God he mentioned, Aussie rugby will need more than that, I enjoyed the comment from themoneyman. Considering both teams probably prayed to JC for a win, he liked the Springboks more, wicked sense of humor
To be fair I think everyone that follows rugby channels on YT knows exactly who wildcard is. I doubt there is any rugby channel that I haven't heard of.
Australia is too woke to fix rugby. The same is happening in New Zealand just at a slower rate. Nothing says 'toxic masculinity' like being a rugby player.
Yeh everyone grits their teeth during the "Welcome to Country". I live in this country, I don't need to be welcomed every time I watch fckn sport. They are constantly calling every non-aboriginal citizen an invader to this country. Fckn shits me.
This was one of the best episodes ever! Kevin Furgason, you are so right about the nanny states and how that impacts rugby (among other more important things). We must resist that in South Africa at all cost.
South African Rugby is in a special place, one thing Rassie manage to fix is the family business within the springboks, now you can see pure talents that deserve to be there, and as a supporter you can get behind our team 100 percent, boks to win tournament 💯
Speaking of physicality and brutality. I loved that moment when Alaatoa came around the corner, and Kolbe hit him so hard you could hear Alaatoa go "umph!" as he was hit. That sums it up in a nutshell.
As a saffa who moved to Aus I can tell you rugby is dead here. Back in SA, we used to have rugby discussion in the office the whole week before and after a test. I work at a company with around 100 employees and I have not heard one person talking about rugby in 3 years!!!
This whole conversation is like being a Bok supporter in the Allister Coetzee era. We were in the exact same position as the wallabies are now!! Stay humble out there!! Love you Bokke!!
Hit the nail on the head re the South African vibe. We are a frontier at almost every level of the human experience - always have been; frontiers are messy, robust and even violent, it is where the rules are made on the fly and everything is negotiable. The best thing about a frontier is that you don't ask for permission. Woke cannot survive or take root here - thankfully.
Agree with Money Man 💰 Cobus was underwhelming. We have 8 quality scrum halves you have to take your opportunities when given. Would love to see Am and Mapimpi get some game time this weekend but from the bench as Kriel and Arendse have been on fire.🔥
As a welsh onlooker the only thing i would say in an otherwise great performace is they still prefer to physically dominate the oppisition as is their DNA as opposed to new zealand at their best where the dominance is translared efficirntly to the scoreboard i think the boks left about 20 points behind it could hsve been 50 plus but the win was important and with something to spare and given the number of pumas in the north the decision by aus and nz to say the bok tesms were persona non grata in super rugby is looking worse and worse every year it must be hard to see the boks and their feeder tesms improve year on year while nz seem to hsve lost their aura i agree the boks need to be ruthless
Boks like to win by less than 7… they almost seemed reluctant to score. Agreed, these boks take 100% of 3 chances against stingy opponents , but when the opponent makes it easy they can become their worst enemy.
As a AB'S fan,SA are the best team going around and i think they will be for some time going on form. I hope I'm wrong but there playing some potent rugby at the moment. Can't wait to play you guys..
I was at the game. It was sold Out. I think it emptied a bit when a fair few Aussies thought it was going to be 50-0. Also the crowd was close to 50/50 SA fans to Aussies so they didn't have much choice other than to show South African Fans.
This is such a good show. Three rugby analysts with good insight and all their thoughts and remarks are mixed up in a melting pot which produces such a good outcome. Thanks from Durban.👏👏👏
If I was part of AusRugby I would do everything I can to attract SA player to play for the unions and super rugby teams. Have at least 5+ players in each team to lift the quality and make them Wallabies if you have. Do what the UK and Japan do!!
Australia has other options. Aussie Rules and Rugby League are very simple games with zero referee/ umpire influence. Aussie Rules can drew 90,000 for a club game. League is a very simple game with no contest for possession. Nobody knows what’s going on in a rugby match except the referee and he is often wrong. The contest for possession defines rugby but for some inane reason World Rugby keeps trying to undermine it.
Came for the Wildkard - was not disappointed. Imho Aussies are too comfortable in the bosom of the Nanny, and don't know what adversity or hardship feels like (like some of our Bokke do). So when the cookie crumbles, Aussies get into a negative emotional headspace rather than becoming more determined and unified. Reminds of Darkest Dungeon and your dudes are at death's door, when their resolve is tested. Boks/Argies get positive, Aussies and Kiwis get negative. Parallels 3rd world vs 1st world struggles, culture and ways of life. Maybe. I don't know, I'm just a random person on the internet 🤷♂
If u know soccer in the 90s ..i compare spring boks to brazilian football team...so talented lots of player's to choose from and new good youngsters coming up...scarry for the world..how to stop them???
@@tristanmarshall1783 Agree 100%.....we need to teach him a LESSON!!!!..that we will not EXEPT this tipe of Behaviour!!!!...And Christian's who is subscribed members should UNSUBSCRIBE FROM HIS CHANNEL.
I liked to listened to your podcast but because you used my Lord Jesus's name so disrespectful I will never listen to your podcast again. I will pray for you.
Fwds in the outside channels butchered a few tries hanging on too long, drifting sideways and killings space for the Kolby and KLA…and obviously Willie’s shocker
I have to agree with your sentiments. I am ex Maritzburg College but live in Perth. Love my rugby. My son loves basketball so I started coaching his. Whilst not a collision sport it is contact and can be physical, trying to get the boys to realise they’re allowed to be rough with each is a nightmare. They’re constantly taught to “mind their own space” “don’t touch each other” “stay in your bubble”. Then you put them on a court and tell them it’s ok to foul the other other guy to stop a basket. It just doesn’t work. That’s basketball. I’d hate to know what the poor rugby coaches are dealing with.
Thanks guys - love that you brought in the "wokeness" trap in Australia and many other countries - it's actually a disease that leads to the population not being comfortable with DISCOMFORT - and rugby is not comfortable by any means - rugby hurts when you play it and while you are hurting you have to front up for the next tackle BECAUSE you can't let your team mates down AND you can't let yourself down - wokeness takes that all away from you...
It's interesting though. Even when the boks were down (and they been down a few times!) they were still supported. Yes we bitched about the coach and we complain. But we show up and wear the jerseys.
Extremely disrespectful to talk about Jesus in that way! Very disappointed in that being aloud in the content, it has absolutely no place in the conversation. If you cannot think about an intelligent thing to say, just keep quiet or leave it alone but to insult the Lord and Saviour of many who watch your content is uncalled for.
Important to remember that Rassie and co will be looking at the next world cup, so we are seeing new players being blooded. I think the Aussies will pitch up for this one. They will still get smashed but they will probably put up a performance to be proud of. Never under estimate AB's. They will not be happy about losing a home game to Arg. Expect to see something dangerous looking from them.
Definitely some food for thought about that ''nanny state,'' comment. I think there is some influence of this new Australian culture killing some of that great Aussie wildman spirit.
australia doesn't produce rugby players because you get paid twice as much on average to play league/afl, there are no people at the games, the high schools that play rugby don't promote rugby as a career trajectory. Far from rugby being alienating because it is brutal, it has a reputation as being for rich people because it is played by private schools in qld/nsw. On the nanny state, executive governments don't create negligence laws; it's not the nanny state making young players tackle low and not too hard or whatever. In general I would welcome a functional regulatory government in Australia and I'm thoroughly pleased I don't endure whatever hellish decay-state south african government delivers.
I was at the game on Saturday and for me the telling point was seeing the Aussie not even attempt to chase down clearance kicks from the Boks. You could see that had already checked out mentally and essentially just waiting for the final whistle. Sad to see the state of Australian rugby
Jeez everyone said the same when we lost 52 zero to NZ. I also remember about 10 years ago everyone said the Aussies are losing players. Not long after that they stepped it up. If NZ can produce world class players AUS can. SA only had a 'W' with one point wins. Get off your high horses man.
I think South African rugby fans and pundits are mistaken to believe the school system that has done so well to bring South African rugby this far will continue to lay the golden eggs. South African rugby for its own survival needs to invest in underdeveloped parts of the country to insure its own longevity. Do it now because all this success is 8 key injuries away from us head scratching with our mouths open, trying to beat Romania.
Only agree on lack of investment in smaller communities. Sa rugby has a huge untapped market in Eastern Cape if you look at the fans that come to matches but infrastructure is poor. Rugby is still a elite sport.
That's not true, SA schools are a rugby player factory, just go watch the games and follow the players, the least of the problems in SA rugby is the number of upcoming brilliant players, the problem is they don't get recognised and the talent slips through the system. National teams only keep an eye on about 100 players, that's it. I think there will be more effort in the future to scope out the youngsters but there's no debate that the SA schools are pumping out incredible rugby talent which most other countries could only dream of which is why foreign countries are so keen to follow the SA schools to see who they can poach.
@@groenrizla2513 what about the schools that don’t have rugby? There are tens of thousands of those. That’s what I’m talking about. Also, there are amateur soccer games up and down the country. Rugby can really get a foot in there too and have similar footprint. I think concerning ourselves with what the Europeans and Australasians are doing is a mistake. We need to innovate to a point where people from places like Alice don’t have to leave home.
Being a South African living in Australia, I can tell you from experience, that there is absolutely no atmosphere at rugby games here. It's so different to South Africa.
Why do you the money man have to use my Lord and Saviour's name as a way to put your point accross? Jesus can do anything. Keep it to rugby and leave religion out of it. Thank you❤
As predicted SA won and won well. Like everyone else, I thought that that would be the outcome, but I also thought the Aussies had the potential to cause an upset, that didn't happen. Congratulations SA. I thought the AB's would win by 10-15 points. That didn't happen. Congratulations Argentina. But, it's only round 1 of the competition. Anything can happen this coming Saturday and moving forward. If the SB do win (which is what should happen) this Saturday, but they only just win or even lose, how will these guys react. If the Wallabies just lose or win and win well, then what. I remember the SB were favourites to win the RC in 2022. It would have been their first RC title in a long time. They got spanked in the second test by the AB's in their own back yard. I wouldn't be too quick to write any team off at this stage. Sure, get excited about your teams performance, but we're only at the starting point. I find it a little odd that the old bloke keeps stating that Oz and NZ have become nanny states and somehow it's made them weaker in rugby and in general throughout. Ummm... Hate to burst his bubble, but NZ has been classified as a nanny state for the past 30 to 40 years and yet, the AB's have dominated the Boks and everyone other rugby playing nation, physically, mentally and with a high level of skill set for the most part over that period. Politics aside, could it be that it's the SB time to shine. It's their moment in the spotlight. The SB have been in the AB's shadow for such a long time, they've now manage to rightfully claim the number one status by themselves and sit at the top of the mountain on their own, while everyone else is chasing. It's a nice position to be in. Enjoy the moment. Not sure how long they'll be there for, Ireland and France are close and want a piece. The AB's and England are still at the crossroads and Argentina is a hungry beast. This competition is wide open and it's there for anyone. The only clarity that is certain, we know who the front-runners are on the first week of the competition. It will be interesting to see if the Boks can dominate like the AB's did.
He said only a few weeks ago that the Boks don't need to change they formula, and it's a stupid mindset to change a winning world cup formula. Now the Spaniard thinks the Boks are at they best 😂😅
Not just the camera, but the fucking music. Why on earth do they think we need to be more entertained. I’m there to watch the fucking rugby and that requires hearing the fucking refs and the crowd
Brute force as the basis of rugby is correct. Even Cheslin Kolbe ran over an Aussie prop! That should be one of the biggest lessons the Wallabies have to take from the Brisbane game!!! As Kevin said, Aussie boys against Bok men💪🏼
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Let us never forget the path the Boks have taken since 2017, ranked 7th in that year and again in 2018. The turnaround is incredible.
And now look at them. These are the Bok's stats since the beginning of 2023:
Played 18, won 15, lost 3 (83% win rate)
Points for 593
Points against 278
Average score 33-15
So on average over the last 18 matches the Boks have won by 18 point. Madness!!
@@bwana4711 a turnaround for the Aussies are also likely
Well I hope they can turn around because world rugby is better for it. However, my concern is whether they have the feeder system for it. The Bok side turned around but at the time that side was actually already full of good players, it just needed better coaching and leadership team plus there is a factory line of rugby player production.
@@vut_zarco The game is dying in Australia - rugby league rules!
I am a Bok supporter living in Australia. I have many Kiwi and Aussie mates and am loving life at the moment. They now know I I felt for many years. During those bad days our stadiums were also half full while the Wallabies and All Black matches were sold out. As you guys said, people like winners! The diversity in the Bok setup as grown the playing pool in SA as well as being able to pick the right players no matter where they ply their trade. The All Blacks and Wallabies need to do the same. Go Bokke!
Money man, please stop interrupting Scott Gibbs! He’s very insightful and informative.
Scott Gibbs can chat though.
@@roryblake3232 and that’s why we love listening to this show
I have big admiration for SA old skool rugby tradition much to do with Eggshells recent visit to Bokland. It is now in my bucket list
It is good mate, i went to a top rugby school in RSA but lived in NZ most of adult life and school rugby in NZ is very good.
Wildkard ranting 😂 On one of Wildkard's videos he said his neighbours complained because he was so loud early in the morning. He was having a big rant 🤣🤣
Wildkard knows his stuff.
Wildkard is boss. I love him
Wildcard is a great Podcaster.
I have penchant for hating Aussie supporters but I love Wildkard🤣.He has such a passion for rugby.I piss myself with laughter following his vids.
So glad you guys referenced Wildkard cause that dude went on a rant
Rugby Australia needs to contract Wildkard as a consultant to grow rugby union and change public perception before the B&I Lions tour
Wildkard is a legend!
With all respect Money Man, never use the name of Jesus Christ in that way.
I fully agree
Agreed!
Who is jesus christ? A mythical figure
Fully agree. With the amount of Springboks praying before and after the game you should know your audience better, even though you might not share the same faith it is a matter of respect.
Well... The statement is true... Regardless which God he mentioned, Aussie rugby will need more than that, I enjoyed the comment from themoneyman. Considering both teams probably prayed to JC for a win, he liked the Springboks more, wicked sense of humor
8:26 Wildkard is great. Shocking you used his clip and dont even give him a plug
My bad I’ll make sure we correct that.
Yeah, agree
I love how they beep out Wildkards swearing but you can still clearly hear his language haha. Love Wildkards videos and passion.
To be fair I think everyone that follows rugby channels on YT knows exactly who wildcard is. I doubt there is any rugby channel that I haven't heard of.
When a rugby team is sponsored by a Chocolate company then you know things aren't going well 😂
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If the Moneyman is the host, he should ask questions and let the guests answer ....just shut up :(
Zels , please take charge in future
You his boyfriend? The show is fine as it is.
Are you feeling threatened 😅...focus Spervuur focus son
Wilkard is great!
Australia is too woke to fix rugby. The same is happening in New Zealand just at a slower rate.
Nothing says 'toxic masculinity' like being a rugby player.
Yeh everyone grits their teeth during the "Welcome to Country". I live in this country, I don't need to be welcomed every time I watch fckn sport. They are constantly calling every non-aboriginal citizen an invader to this country. Fckn shits me.
They done Folau dirty and have been rubbish ever since.
Agreed.
Thank you for listening to our comments. But please let Zels speak more!
The state of Australian rugby is so sad. I hope things get better for them we need th3 Aussies in their best form
Aus u20s beat SA u20s......
Ponder on that
Guys Auss have been WC champs twice, with historically some of the best players in the world. Must sort out their game, from the top down & bottom up.
This was one of the best episodes ever! Kevin Furgason, you are so right about the nanny states and how that impacts rugby (among other more important things). We must resist that in South Africa at all cost.
Let ZELS speak!!!!!
South African Rugby is in a special place, one thing Rassie manage to fix is the family business within the springboks, now you can see pure talents that deserve to be there, and as a supporter you can get behind our team 100 percent, boks to win tournament 💯
Got to love wildkard
Speaking of physicality and brutality. I loved that moment when Alaatoa came around the corner, and Kolbe hit him so hard you could hear Alaatoa go "umph!" as he was hit. That sums it up in a nutshell.
As a saffa who moved to Aus I can tell you rugby is dead here. Back in SA, we used to have rugby discussion in the office the whole week before and after a test. I work at a company with around 100 employees and I have not heard one person talking about rugby in 3 years!!!
You couldn't have said it better Mr. Gibbs, " World rugby is reliant on The Boks at the moment"... UP YOU BOKKE!🇿🇦💪
I think world rugby are holding their noses and propping up Ireland and France every chance they get.
This whole conversation is like being a Bok supporter in the Allister Coetzee era. We were in the exact same position as the wallabies are now!!
Stay humble out there!!
Love you Bokke!!
the comment about Jesus was extremely uncalled for.
Hit the nail on the head re the South African vibe. We are a frontier at almost every level of the human experience - always have been; frontiers are messy, robust and even violent, it is where the rules are made on the fly and everything is negotiable. The best thing about a frontier is that you don't ask for permission. Woke cannot survive or take root here - thankfully.
We need to keep re-buffing its every attempt.
Agree with Money Man 💰 Cobus was underwhelming. We have 8 quality scrum halves you have to take your opportunities when given. Would love to see Am and Mapimpi get some game time this weekend but from the bench as Kriel and Arendse have been on fire.🔥
How about this back line
9 Williams
10 Sacha
11 kolbe
14 kla
12 am
13 moodie
15 Damien
Superb players all and shut down the transformation noise.
Kevin & Scott are the best! Keep the Welsh lads on the show, they are great! Cheers boys
Ricky is GOAT 😂
As a welsh onlooker the only thing i would say in an otherwise great performace is they still prefer to physically dominate the oppisition as is their DNA as opposed to new zealand at their best where the dominance is translared efficirntly to the scoreboard i think the boks left about 20 points behind it could hsve been 50 plus but the win was important and with something to spare and given the number of pumas in the north the decision by aus and nz to say the bok tesms were persona non grata in super rugby is looking worse and worse every year it must be hard to see the boks and their feeder tesms improve year on year while nz seem to hsve lost their aura i agree the boks need to be ruthless
Boks like to win by less than 7… they almost seemed reluctant to score.
Agreed, these boks take 100% of 3 chances against stingy opponents , but when the opponent makes it easy they can become their worst enemy.
Well done Money Man for listening to the comments for more Zels space to talk, although you still dominate the conversation
Not everything needs to be livestock rated. He's good. That'll do.
The Money Man's got the money and the green car. I rate the money man.
What is it about all these Zel fanboys? Weird.
@@spervuurproduksiesJasis you’re active in these comments hey. Hou jou poes bek
@@rossdacosta3640 Man, jou vuil bek is seker 'n refleksie op jou brein, wat jy klaarblyklik nie baie gebruik nie.
It's only round one... Let's have this conversation at the end of the championship
As a AB'S fan,SA are the best team going around and i think they will be for some time going on form. I hope I'm wrong but there playing some potent rugby at the moment. Can't wait to play you guys..
I was at the game. It was sold Out. I think it emptied a bit when a fair few Aussies thought it was going to be 50-0. Also the crowd was close to 50/50 SA fans to Aussies so they didn't have much choice other than to show South African Fans.
Don't let this distract you from the fact that Agustin Creevy emptied his pockets after the match and found a blunt razor and the All Blacks inside.
This is a copy paste comment from another video.🤦♂️
Exactly he needs some new material lol @@CraighJonas
@@CraighJonaswho cares, 1st time I’ve seen it and it’s funny 😂
@hanoitripper1809 taking credit for someone else's joke goes against the spirit of rugby, and it's borderline spam.
@@CraighJonas if u see it that way perhaps, but it’s also spreading the joke and humour to those who never saw it, like me.
This is such a good show. Three rugby analysts with good insight and all their thoughts and remarks are mixed up in a melting pot which produces such a good outcome.
Thanks from Durban.👏👏👏
Yeah...let the Zels speak...Thanks.
Money man stop interrupting Zels. WTF
If I was part of AusRugby I would do everything I can to attract SA player to play for the unions and super rugby teams. Have at least 5+ players in each team to lift the quality and make them Wallabies if you have. Do what the UK and Japan do!!
what a performance by the Springboks so good irish fan
Great show, as always !
Thanks guys
Zelim is GOAT
If podcasting gets added in the Olympics, you guys take the gold. Thank you
Australia has other options. Aussie Rules and Rugby League are very simple games with zero referee/ umpire influence. Aussie Rules can drew 90,000 for a club game. League is a very simple game with no contest for possession. Nobody knows what’s going on in a rugby match except the referee and he is often wrong. The contest for possession defines rugby but for some inane reason World Rugby keeps trying to undermine it.
Sir Kirwan said "the mistake was not enough scrums , ABs didn't assert physical dominance by smashing them in the scrums ," yep he said that :)
He says alot of dumb things
Stay humble lads. Remember Japan.
Free Zels! Let him speak :)
With the boks out of super rugby it really has an impact on their game
Came for the Wildkard - was not disappointed.
Imho Aussies are too comfortable in the bosom of the Nanny, and don't know what adversity or hardship feels like (like some of our Bokke do).
So when the cookie crumbles, Aussies get into a negative emotional headspace rather than becoming more determined and unified.
Reminds of Darkest Dungeon and your dudes are at death's door, when their resolve is tested. Boks/Argies get positive, Aussies and Kiwis get negative.
Parallels 3rd world vs 1st world struggles, culture and ways of life. Maybe. I don't know, I'm just a random person on the internet 🤷♂
Guys, we need to learn to be a bit more humble and respectful. Not saying ur predictions are wrong but nobody likes a showoff..
Totally agree, leave the arrogance to the English
If u know soccer in the 90s ..i compare spring boks to brazilian football team...so talented lots of player's to choose from and new good youngsters coming up...scarry for the world..how to stop them???
Brazil not doing so well now.
Got my Rugby Mag - have not bought one for a long time
Zels takes longer to talk than Argie vs All black scrums. He has his own show though
Blasphemous is not on. Can we stick with talking just Rugby please !
EXACTLY what he did.😡😠
Makes me want to never watch the channel again. Stick to rugby
Agreed. For a moment I was thinking about unsubscribing. I'll give this dude the benefit of the doubt. This is a great show, otherwise
Exactly. Terrible decision to blaspheme our Lord and Savior.
@@tristanmarshall1783 Agree 100%.....we need to teach him a LESSON!!!!..that we will not EXEPT this tipe of Behaviour!!!!...And Christian's who is subscribed members should UNSUBSCRIBE FROM HIS CHANNEL.
I liked to listened to your podcast but because you used my Lord Jesus's name so disrespectful I will never listen to your podcast again. I will pray for you.
Forgive himBig Rossi, for he know not what he do
Agree
I lived in Oz for a decade. The wokeness is disturbing. And it permeates everything.
Fwds in the outside channels butchered a few tries hanging on too long, drifting sideways and killings space for the Kolby and KLA…and obviously Willie’s shocker
I have to agree with your sentiments. I am ex Maritzburg College but live in Perth. Love my rugby. My son loves basketball so I started coaching his. Whilst not a collision sport it is contact and can be physical, trying to get the boys to realise they’re allowed to be rough with each is a nightmare. They’re constantly taught to “mind their own space” “don’t touch each other” “stay in your bubble”. Then you put them on a court and tell them it’s ok to foul the other other guy to stop a basket. It just doesn’t work. That’s basketball. I’d hate to know what the poor rugby coaches are dealing with.
Pearce was biased. They were not right about his blowing. The Aussies infringements at the breakdown was humongous
Springboks are becoming a very scary team and they producing great players ,they already have replacements for the world cup winners
Great show as always 👏👏👏
Money Man, say something a wait for your guests to finish... It will flow so much better...
Thanks guys - love that you brought in the "wokeness" trap in Australia and many other countries - it's actually a disease that leads to the population not being comfortable with DISCOMFORT - and rugby is not comfortable by any means - rugby hurts when you play it and while you are hurting you have to front up for the next tackle BECAUSE you can't let your team mates down AND you can't let yourself down - wokeness takes that all away from you...
But if Australia is so woke and weak, why can’t you beat us at anything other than rugby union?
It's interesting though. Even when the boks were down (and they been down a few times!) they were still supported. Yes we bitched about the coach and we complain. But we show up and wear the jerseys.
Extremely disrespectful to talk about Jesus in that way! Very disappointed in that being aloud in the content, it has absolutely no place in the conversation. If you cannot think about an intelligent thing to say, just keep quiet or leave it alone but to insult the Lord and Saviour of many who watch your content is uncalled for.
The guy is Wildcard. I subscibed to his channel. Perhaps give him his dues. Won't kill your channel to mention his.
Important to remember that Rassie and co will be looking at the next world cup, so we are seeing new players being blooded. I think the Aussies will pitch up for this one. They will still get smashed but they will probably put up a performance to be proud of. Never under estimate AB's. They will not be happy about losing a home game to Arg. Expect to see something dangerous looking from them.
Wildkard 😂😂😂💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Kevin does a great job hosting . Good on his predictions and always grest to have Gibbsy and Zels on the panel . Good show lads
Definitely some food for thought about that ''nanny state,'' comment. I think there is some influence of this new Australian culture killing some of that great Aussie wildman spirit.
Oz
Police state
But, strangely, only in rugby union. Not in any other sport are we seeing South Africa dominate Australia. How does that work, guys?
@@2111bigad - fair point.
australia doesn't produce rugby players because you get paid twice as much on average to play league/afl, there are no people at the games, the high schools that play rugby don't promote rugby as a career trajectory. Far from rugby being alienating because it is brutal, it has a reputation as being for rich people because it is played by private schools in qld/nsw. On the nanny state, executive governments don't create negligence laws; it's not the nanny state making young players tackle low and not too hard or whatever. In general I would welcome a functional regulatory government in Australia and I'm thoroughly pleased I don't endure whatever hellish decay-state south african government delivers.
Great show guys, thank you. Zels must get his own microphone... Maybe he will say more! 😂 Which is the best site to place bets on the rugby?
WILDCARD !!!
I was at the game on Saturday and for me the telling point was seeing the Aussie not even attempt to chase down clearance kicks from the Boks. You could see that had already checked out mentally and essentially just waiting for the final whistle. Sad to see the state of Australian rugby
I beleive that the boks are heros in SA school boys are inthrold by the this team and 2 world cups back to back. So it's become a status game
You guys seemed to have forgotten the URC final. Glasgow were certainly not physically beaten by Bulls.
Since SA joined URC, you have pushed on and NZ and Aussies have not.
The money man uses the Lord's name in vain ,very grave move dat buddy
What on earth MM? Could you not have thought of any other analogy but to use God in this example?
The 'lord' doesn't exist
Jeez everyone said the same when we lost 52 zero to NZ. I also remember about 10 years ago everyone said the Aussies are losing players. Not long after that they stepped it up. If NZ can produce world class players AUS can. SA only had a 'W' with one point wins. Get off your high horses man.
Here for Zels
Then go to his stream.
@@spervuurproduksies The one next to the waterfall?
@@LionOnSea 😃😁
I think South African rugby fans and pundits are mistaken to believe the school system that has done so well to bring South African rugby this far will continue to lay the golden eggs.
South African rugby for its own survival needs to invest in underdeveloped parts of the country to insure its own longevity. Do it now because all this success is 8 key injuries away from us head scratching with our mouths open, trying to beat Romania.
Nah, we have plenty of players unlucky to not get starts
@@redpilled9595 short term you have a point. But 2 SuperRugby titles and one URC title over 27 years is a worrying stat
Only agree on lack of investment in smaller communities. Sa rugby has a huge untapped market in Eastern Cape if you look at the fans that come to matches but infrastructure is poor. Rugby is still a elite sport.
That's not true, SA schools are a rugby player factory, just go watch the games and follow the players, the least of the problems in SA rugby is the number of upcoming brilliant players, the problem is they don't get recognised and the talent slips through the system.
National teams only keep an eye on about 100 players, that's it.
I think there will be more effort in the future to scope out the youngsters but there's no debate that the SA schools are pumping out incredible rugby talent which most other countries could only dream of which is why foreign countries are so keen to follow the SA schools to see who they can poach.
@@groenrizla2513 what about the schools that don’t have rugby? There are tens of thousands of those. That’s what I’m talking about. Also, there are amateur soccer games up and down the country. Rugby can really get a foot in there too and have similar footprint. I think concerning ourselves with what the Europeans and Australasians are doing is a mistake. We need to innovate to a point where people from places like Alice don’t have to leave home.
3:48 Scott, auntie's trying to get a hold of you 🤣
I'm sorry, but the moment you said JC himself cannot coach Aus to a win, you lost my support to this channel. Basphemy should never be tolerated.
Hahaha. You think JC would be able to coach the Aussies? If not, it's not blasphemy. You sound worse than those nutcases with head shawls.
Being a South African living in Australia, I can tell you from experience, that there is absolutely no atmosphere at rugby games here. It's so different to South Africa.
Rugby Union in AUS isn't popular its not there preferred sport they like Aussie rules or NRL.
Blasphemous of you,let just talk rugby.
Australia is not interested in Rugby. It's too physical for them and the men have become soft. They prefer AFL and RL which is not physical
No proper school feeder system in Australia. Rugby only played at private schools....
Why do you the money man have to use my Lord and Saviour's name as a way to put your point accross? Jesus can do anything. Keep it to rugby and leave religion out of it. Thank you❤
So, you think he would be able to coach this Aussie team. I don't think so.
6:45 the sarcasm is spot on 🤣
As predicted SA won and won well. Like everyone else, I thought that that would be the outcome, but I also thought the Aussies had the potential to cause an upset, that didn't happen. Congratulations SA. I thought the AB's would win by 10-15 points. That didn't happen. Congratulations Argentina. But, it's only round 1 of the competition. Anything can happen this coming Saturday and moving forward.
If the SB do win (which is what should happen) this Saturday, but they only just win or even lose, how will these guys react. If the Wallabies just lose or win and win well, then what. I remember the SB were favourites to win the RC in 2022. It would have been their first RC title in a long time. They got spanked in the second test by the AB's in their own back yard. I wouldn't be too quick to write any team off at this stage. Sure, get excited about your teams performance, but we're only at the starting point.
I find it a little odd that the old bloke keeps stating that Oz and NZ have become nanny states and somehow it's made them weaker in rugby and in general throughout. Ummm... Hate to burst his bubble, but NZ has been classified as a nanny state for the past 30 to 40 years and yet, the AB's have dominated the Boks and everyone other rugby playing nation, physically, mentally and with a high level of skill set for the most part over that period.
Politics aside, could it be that it's the SB time to shine. It's their moment in the spotlight. The SB have been in the AB's shadow for such a long time, they've now manage to rightfully claim the number one status by themselves and sit at the top of the mountain on their own, while everyone else is chasing. It's a nice position to be in. Enjoy the moment. Not sure how long they'll be there for, Ireland and France are close and want a piece. The AB's and England are still at the crossroads and Argentina is a hungry beast. This competition is wide open and it's there for anyone. The only clarity that is certain, we know who the front-runners are on the first week of the competition.
It will be interesting to see if the Boks can dominate like the AB's did.
He said only a few weeks ago that the Boks don't need to change they formula, and it's a stupid mindset to change a winning world cup formula. Now the Spaniard thinks the Boks are at they best 😂😅
Your JC comment was totally unacceptable and unnecessary. Please don't do that.
Agreed .constructive criticism ..leave the blaspheme out of it
We enjoy the channel without it
Cheers
My kids (Aus school) will not have contested scrums until final year!!! Right there is the problem. Everyone must be safe and win a prize
Not just the camera, but the fucking music. Why on earth do they think we need to be more entertained. I’m there to watch the fucking rugby and that requires hearing the fucking refs and the crowd
love the show but what is up with that background music for the first few minutes
Maybe just maybe Australia fired Eddie to soon. He said he has a vision maybe they should have backed him and seen where he was going
Brute force as the basis of rugby is correct. Even Cheslin Kolbe ran over an Aussie prop! That should be one of the biggest lessons the Wallabies have to take from the Brisbane game!!! As Kevin said, Aussie boys against Bok men💪🏼