Travel & Showcase Ball is Killing USA Baseball

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  • @harrya8813
    @harrya8813 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Great Video. My son is currently a 10U player here in Socal in Pony. Some of his friends are on a travel ball team and would come to practices wearing their travel ball swag hats and sweat shirts. My son would ask me about him joining the travel team. As I watched these travel team kids play I noticed that my son played just as well or better than all of those travel kids. Some of those kids also started to complain about sore arms, at 10 years old!! My feeling is that a lot of these dads are playing through their kids and want bragging rights about how much of a stud their kid is. It has actually become so bad that my wife and I sit in the outfield to avoid all the "talk" on which kid is the stud player.

    • @nofurtherwest3474
      @nofurtherwest3474 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey we are in a similar boat. My son also has friends who played travel ball who got overuse injuries in 10u last fall. Pretty crazy.

    • @riggitydoo5116
      @riggitydoo5116 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Add in "Game Changer" stats and watch the parents change.

  • @AndyGarcia-ch1ci
    @AndyGarcia-ch1ci 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    In my opinion, The REAL reason travel ball is killing baseball is because it is making baseball a sport for only rhe rich kids with parents that can afford it, AND travel 6-8 months out if the year.
    I wholeheartedly believe rhis is why so many kids are avoiding baseball all together, football and basketball are just so much more accessible. Imagine paying $200 for a 3 monrh season with most of your gear being provided.
    Now compare that to a travel baseball season where most kids are getting 2-3 bats a year over $300, a $250 glove, custom helmets, plus extra money for special edition uniforms, plus the gas and hotel costs, tournament costs, parking, etc.
    It may not be a big deal to some but most parents and kids are not going to do that, all for their kid to over do it and get TJ their junior year in HS.
    So rhese kids are nor growing up in baseball. And as a result there are less baseball fans growing up. Less peopel care about baseball every single year and it starts at rhe yiuth level.
    The pitching hard thing and player development is only a small part of it.
    And by the way, venezuelan baseball players have been killing it lately. 🇻🇪🇺🇸⚾
    We love baseball and always will.

    • @joekeusch5995
      @joekeusch5995 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Absolutely correct! Excellent comment

  • @sonofRassmuss
    @sonofRassmuss ปีที่แล้ว +23

    The rec system is such a joke here in the states. It's basically just glorified babysitting with absolutely no player development. Because of this tons of athletic kids stop playing baseball by age 10, which is sad because baseball really doesn't get fun until age 11 or 12. My son has had several of his talented friends quit baseball because it was too boring, they'd rather play 7 on 7 spring football.

    • @chrismichael434
      @chrismichael434 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Right. The families with kids in rec all realize the travel ball model is a joke and even if their kid was the most talented player there is a 99.9% chance he won’t play professional and a 96% chance he won’t play beyond high school and even if he does he will be paying his college to play ball in college. The rec families - the one that get it

    • @nofurtherwest3474
      @nofurtherwest3474 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Our Little League was great. The coaches were pretty good. The kids improved. But I think we are lucky to have one of the better run LLs around.

    • @jeremyschwartz3683
      @jeremyschwartz3683 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      parents crying about development has ruined rec and youth baseball in general. how is a rec coach supposed to "develop" your kid and the other 11 kids with only 12 practices total for the entire season? development is a lifestyle in the DR, not just a marketing scheme like it is in the states. parents should be developing their players or paying somebody to develop their players which means TRAINING and spend less time at tournaments.

    • @nofurtherwest3474
      @nofurtherwest3474 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jeremyschwartz3683 good point

    • @GregTurner-ks4ii
      @GregTurner-ks4ii 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The players on better school teams play on better travel teams and work hard to be THAT level. My son's high school team works out 4 days a week in summer. They do a position specific workout, then they do a team workout. They start daily work outs in school after the second week of school. They do something four days a week on school days. They play all through the fall, jv vs. Varsity and scrimmage with out schools. They take off Thanksgiving to New Years. All the serious players (most of them) play Travel ball at a high level in the Summer. Most all that want to play at the next level from Div 1 to Juco. But then again it IS Florida, and kids come from PR and the DR. To play high school and travel.ball here

  • @dh31409
    @dh31409 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One other thing to take into account is that travel and showcase ball at young ages has led to d1 schools getting commitments from kids as young as 7th and 8th grade. With these spots locked up, there are so many other kids that finally grew into their bodies and worked their butts off to improve over their high school "careers."
    A kid like Jace Soffal, from the University of Oregon, gets overlooked and has to go the CC route, despite being in the upper 80s in high school. Lucky for him, he was able to get above 90, and continued working hard to get into the mid 90s.

  • @Noone-8010
    @Noone-8010 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    How many from The Dominican Republic become professional soccer, basketball, hockey, golf or anything else? Players in the U.S. just have more options.

    • @jeremyschwartz3683
      @jeremyschwartz3683 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      DR produces soccer and basketball players too. they encourage kids to play multiple sports

  • @Bnoise22
    @Bnoise22 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Preach!! Keep this message going. Select/AAU in general are killing the development and brotherhood of sports. Using guest players to better ur chances at that weekend tournament instead of developing your own. Its all about business and ego and every parent thinking they have the next Bryce harper/ Steph Curry

  • @mayhem3211
    @mayhem3211 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw the insta video and was wondering why you made the claims. I really liked the explanation and it makes sense. Thank you.

  • @isaiah3127
    @isaiah3127 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Looking back i wasn't the most eager to improve my game. But honestly the thing i accredited it most to is honestly playing travel baseball. Without getting terribly into detail. My program was not a competitive program and was full of corrupt has been coaches, in Southeast Wisconsin. With one of them literally leaving us right after a loss. And actually stealing a pitching machine. I could give names but i won't. I stayed with this program for pretty much my entire adolescence to basically 18. And im telling you it was absolutely demoralizing. We had guys that had insane potential especially this one kid that couldn't have been 5'8 at 15 throwing 86 across the diamond. He was from Puerto Rico and bare spoke any English. Not that it mattered he barely spoke as it is. Over the years the age bracket under us in complete honesty outclassed us in skill. But you know why, they had the same coaches since they were 11. Their practices were extremely more efficient than ours and translated to the game much more than ours. Over my many years in this organization baseball slowly became a burden in life. It got so bad to where I would literally be glad we got eliminated so I could go home. My Freshman year was the first time in a long time i actually enjoyed playing. And you know what, what we absolutely sucked that year. The biggest problem with that program at our level was that they were too nice. Looking back there were time where i should've been cut. There was such a lack of competitiveness amongst the players. Because everyone knew they would always have their spot. I don't know about anyone else on our team but that played a big part in my confidence as a player. Looking back i should've went to a extremely notable program in Southeast Wisconsin. Known for producing tons of College and MLB players. One of them for the LA Dodgers who had a season ending injury this last spring training. Im not saying i wouldve been like him. But i feel like being rejected a spot wouldve done me good. This program is extremely effective in created champs out of chumps. They always offered their training for everyone at every level. The biggest thing for choosing a program. Is finding a program that wants the most of of you as a player. I also think parents have to do there due diligence on this part as well. Because sometimes players can't see what's happening. Parents have to see how the entire team performs. Over a two year span you should see noticeable improvement in the team. Has the skill improved, and is the team winning more? And if it's a winning team. It's also important to observe the level of competition. There was a program ran by a guy here in the Southeast Wisconsin. Who got in trouble for embezzlement of funds for a widely known youth program in the US. Who at the later half of tenure began entering his teams into tournaments that had a lower level of competitiveness. To give the impression of a winning team. It wasn't always like that though. That program used to produce D1 monsters like crazy. If you're a ballplayer who plays for a travel team. You need to take advantage of the off season as much as possible for skiil and strength development. I honestly think fall and winter leagues are ineffective in progressing as a player. And a great way to burn out. In the United States there are tons of different ways to be seen. Showcases and NCSA should be used strategically. In my opinion you don't need to play travel teams in the summer at all. I met a guy from Venezuela. He told me that doen there. There baseball is completely different. Of course they have youth teams. But they also have teams where if you can make the cut, you can play. There is extreme competitiveness between "teammates." You can lose your spot after a couple games if you're underperforming. There is a lot more training than actual game play. A mid level youth team would probably outplay most youth programs here in the US.

  • @user-wisrcounty
    @user-wisrcounty 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I agree without a doubt! Great video I wish it had more views

  • @DN-nk1xt
    @DN-nk1xt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I understand what you are trying to say, but it's a little off. For example, we have more lawyers, doctors, football players, basketball players, engineers, professors, etc. We have way more opportunities to be successful here.

  • @nachobizness1231
    @nachobizness1231 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    joe dimaggio said it takes desperation to make a ballplayer. those depression era players had a drive and desperation to make it to the bigs, a fire in the guts to make it, due to their living conditions… i think you’re seeing the same thing in the latin american countries… players with extreme desperation to make it. rich travel ball kids don’t have that.

    • @brianmeen2158
      @brianmeen2158 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The rich travel ball kids don’t even play little league anymore. It’s all travel ball and it definitely takes wealthy and determined parents to make that happen

    • @isaiah3127
      @isaiah3127 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@brianmeen2158 wealthy determined parents don't make ballplayers

    • @terrencegibbons3351
      @terrencegibbons3351 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@brianmeen2158how much does travel ball cost?

    • @xavierrivera9130
      @xavierrivera9130 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      2 to 5 hundred a month from what I've experienced in Florida

  • @iamswright1853
    @iamswright1853 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The rec system is full of politics and daddy ball. The game isn’t fun and exciting anymore. Get out of this dying archaic system and it opens up for players to be better and have fun. The best thing I did for my kid was get him out of rec and into travel ball. My son is now in love with the game of baseball.

    • @MrRod632
      @MrRod632 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agree 100%. Unless you live in a community with a large number of driven parents and players, it's a joke. Rec baseball is some towns should be called communist ball. We are looking to move to a more competitive community with better schools.
      Also some daddies like to stack one or 2 rec teams and it results little to no completive games. Teams that get killed every game results in kids quiting.

  • @gearbarrel6237
    @gearbarrel6237 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have personal friends that
    Have shared that most talent at very young ages are literally taking steroids in most of these Latin American and “island” countries. There is an abuse of kids arms in the US but there is a deeper abuse not visible yet in many of the international players. You can literally go into any pharmacy in Venezuela and buy steroids on the shelf with your prescription. Many of the families take this as a “supplement.” not even realizing they’re probably destroying their children’s very body. I have a hunch in around 10 years or to see many of these international players dying at very young ages, with lots of money in their accounts 😞.

  • @DENNISMCLAIN-g3u
    @DENNISMCLAIN-g3u หลายเดือนก่อน

    In our area there seems to be three levels.
    1. USA (Rec) is for kids that are just starting or kids that want to play, but lack the coordination and athletism to compete at a higher leve. I don't hate on this group because they usually truley love to play and they need a venue for it.
    2. Weekend travel ball, which is the biggest group. Usually kids that have made allstars a couple times in rec then move up to have more compeditive games in AA travel ball. Better pitching and a better understanding of fundamentals than rec, but not as refined as AAA kids.
    3. "Real Travel Ball." Still very few teams in this group around here. Usually always USSSA AAA teams that will travel one or two states away.
    I'm not entirely against this evolution of the game because there seem to be more levels to choose from.

  • @danielbeverly2147
    @danielbeverly2147 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It’s because they have nothing else. First period isn’t math it’s pitching. Also our best athletes have other options. How many Dominicans in the NBA?

    • @brianmeen2158
      @brianmeen2158 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I’ve listened to the daily life of many of these international teams players and baseball is their first, second and third favorite hobby. They are training like major league players . I loved playing baseball as a kid but can’t imagine training like that at the age of say 11

  • @dynastywarzone8225
    @dynastywarzone8225 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the content, but maybe not have them dropping weighted bars from overhead during the recording would’ve been a benefit. Still gave us a thumbs up.

  • @edwardhanlon5493
    @edwardhanlon5493 ปีที่แล้ว

    best youtube video ive watched in a year

  • @jackmehoff1832
    @jackmehoff1832 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It’s exceptionally rare for a kid to make it to the Majors. It’s also very very rare to be a starting D1 Baseball Player.
    It’s best to assume your kid won’t play any Baseball after High School.
    If you have that extremely rare kid, that kid isn’t going to get scouted and recruited because he played 10U Majors.
    Regarding Showcases it’s not necessary at all for the “right kid”. Send some videos around to some College Coaches. Most will look at them, and give honest feedback.
    Lastly, if your Kid isn’t in the 90th percentile or more for Height it’s extremely unlikely they will get a D1 offer even if they’re really good. Physicality matters more than people think at the highest levels.
    Plenty of Juco Players have as good or better mechanics than D1 Athletes, but they lack size, and your kid isn’t Altuve.

    • @riggitydoo5116
      @riggitydoo5116 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Altuve got sent home from tryouts to get in the MLB system because he was too short. So yeah, it's real.

  • @garylangston839
    @garylangston839 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you post links to what you consider are the best peer-reviewed studies?

  • @NorCalPitchingAcademy
    @NorCalPitchingAcademy ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video well said

  • @edwardhanlon5493
    @edwardhanlon5493 ปีที่แล้ว

    he is 100% correct. 100%. my dad is an orthopedic surgeon

  • @R2sojr09
    @R2sojr09 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great weather year around and being the really only sport has something to do with it.

  • @worldtraveler8613
    @worldtraveler8613 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Its not that the culture here is bad. DR players play baseball when they can walk. They dont go to school. They practice up to 8 hrs a day. Every single day. Year in, year out. There is no way the skill level can compare because American kids have to go to school. And they have social lives, family events, electronics, etc. The one advantage american players still have is stature. Size and strength. Access to nutrition. Training equipment. That's where american players make their money... in the gym. Because latin players will always have more skill due to the aforementioned reasons

  • @AntonyViera22
    @AntonyViera22 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree we have a culture problem in youth baseball. And unfair advantage to international players. Take DR for example since he references the often in his video. You have athletes starting at the same age as our kids here in the states however they do not attend school year round. There only focus is on baseball so naturally they will perform at a higher level. Our kids attend school 6 to 7 hours each day and if they were to begin right after school they would approximately 4 hrs of practice/ training not to mention home work. I believe our kids have many more options compared to other countries but we are talking baseball where the tables have turned and the sport favors countries such has DR. Another prospective is that international players can sign a contract as young as 16, where our kids must attend and play at college where they also receive little to no assistance through scholarships. So our kids /athletes must pay to play through college. The greed of these organizations and colleges have created this mess that we are in. Just my 2 cents. Good luck to all players near and far.

  • @Swamp_Ranger
    @Swamp_Ranger 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hard to follow with all the crashing of weights in the background. Good topic and probably good knowledge but the location/ execution of the video could be better.

  • @mr.regentsdude5621
    @mr.regentsdude5621 ปีที่แล้ว

    That background noise

  • @dustinhawks7571
    @dustinhawks7571 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm 4 mins into the video and I'm willing to bet you've overlooked the fact that Latin players don't play football or basketball and have limited financial opportunities outside of becoming professional baseball players. They literally start specializing at it as young kids and yet you seem to knock it here.
    You should've just knocked travel ball without trying to reference the ethnicity differences in pro ball. Latin players are better players because it's a large part of their culture. In 5-10 years it will be the same for Japanese players in regards to representation in MLB.
    This isn't a bad thing. It's simply a reflection of the multiple athletic opportunities in this country compared to others.

    • @Runthetable91
      @Runthetable91 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂
      Im 4 sentences into your short story, and see that you failed mention anything about soccer. The worlds most commonly played sport

  • @DN-nk1xt
    @DN-nk1xt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Now let's talk about injuries. I bet more football players at the high school level on down have more injuries than baseball. I bet injuries in football have altered every day life with concussions that linger, broken arms and legs that cause a permanent limp, and the worse paralyzed players. I saw a study that said there are more injuries in the house or back yard than on a sports field. Injuries are part of the game. I had shoulder surgery at the age of 27. I'm pretty sure my genetics had a lot to do with playing for a long time, my body just broke down. I never played fall ball as an amateur. I know guys that have played longer than I did that never had surgery. It's a case by case situation.

  • @autohrap5884
    @autohrap5884 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Got to buy those steak dinners for the coaches to put your kids up front even though your kid is better than the ones up front… the politics is ridiculous

  • @djs2920
    @djs2920 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree

  • @redhoward11
    @redhoward11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ok I can’t take the weights crashing anymore, I’m out.

  • @calebdougherty2885
    @calebdougherty2885 ปีที่แล้ว

    i agree

  • @DAatDA
    @DAatDA 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who cares about playing professionally?
    What if a kid loves baseball and wants to play it in a competitive environment with other players who love the game?

  • @thomasthompson4999
    @thomasthompson4999 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Kids are leaving little leage because there is 5 coaches on a team.which there kids start. There covering for there lack Skill. Not saying some kids cant play. There moving into to all stars which really really gets me pissed of.
    I get Hott. Because Now your representing our city. I Dont Believe the correct kids are representing the Districts. And I blame little league. They should be actually watching. And they can with game changer. Should be in forced. And the kids wirh the best batting average. Stats etc
    Go to All Stars. not because there Over weight Daddy is the Coach just my Opinion. Now travel ball I disagree. From what i see of a kid cant play. He will sit out. Atleast our travel team. Ps little league is actually declining at 14% to 20% look it up. Unfortunately blame little league....

  • @Bigstubs1
    @Bigstubs1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why do kids leave rec ball? Several reasons. Parents no longer want Daddy ball. If your kid is good and I mean really good he has to put up with kids who are just starting out in baseball at 11 or 12 years of age.
    Kids can’t advance if they are surrounded by kids just beginning.
    Select or travel ball implies real coaches and real commitment considering the costs associated with travel ball. Rec ball used to be sufficient to get a kid on a high school team. No longer the case.

  • @cmagtpose2792
    @cmagtpose2792 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'll disagree with that, the fact you have to have a break off Slider to even get a sniff at is what is causing Tommy John surgery.

    • @michaelallen1154
      @michaelallen1154 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      cmagtpose2792 - were you responding to something said in the video, or a comment? I'm interested in what you are talking about.

  • @bayroot510
    @bayroot510 ปีที่แล้ว

    Baseball sucks here also because blacks have been systematically taken out of the game which is not the case in the DR. The most athletic kids here play football and basketball. Not so much baseball anymore.

    • @isaiah3127
      @isaiah3127 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think it's more of a culture thing. Black kids in the Hood don't look at reggie Jackson as an Idol. They look at Jordan as one. My high school was 80% black, and we maybe had 4 black players in the entire program. Baseball just isn't as part of black culture as football and basketball are. My high school produced a handful of D1 and D2 commits out of our football and basketball programs. But the weird thing is that before I came there as a freshman, my school was known for its baseball program. Even when I got there, all of our sports programs were full of animals. But as the years went on, it seemed players became softer and less eager for success. The baseball program especially. Every year, we had fewer and fewer people who had even threw a baseball before.

    • @cmagtpose2792
      @cmagtpose2792 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That is just the most BS victim hood statement of the year....Black's don't want to play Baseball....they play Football and Basketball. It's as simple as that.

    • @AndyGarcia-ch1ci
      @AndyGarcia-ch1ci 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree. Travel ball has priced out kids from baseball and they go play football and basketball. Not just black kids but most kids. Football and basketball have been way more popular. Baseball is the rich kid sport. Hate to say it... But it is