Flag etiquette with Tom Cunliffe

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  • Ever wondered why some sailors bring in their ensigns at sunset? There's more to it that just tradition. And what about courtesy ensigns, house flags and the rest? Do we just string them up and leave them till they rot, or is there a more seamanlike way? It's all here in this short video, spiced up with a yarn or two as usual.
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  • @cornelisvanderbent8569
    @cornelisvanderbent8569 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Had to laugh at "the local swindlery".

  • @Nerd3927
    @Nerd3927 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I like flags, tradition and etiquette! Trouble is, that no matter what you do, some old geezer will come up and tell you that you are doing it all wrong! From now on I will refer to this video, as the highest authority. Thanks Tom!

  • @finding_mojo
    @finding_mojo 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just love listening to Tom explain things in his wonderful, storytelling manner and voice!

  • @robinjohnson6816
    @robinjohnson6816 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Well done Tom, we must keep old traditions going. I didn't realise you had such a connection to the 'Old Gaffers Association', it is good to see that flag flying. Happy sailing to you both.

  • @MrDbone75
    @MrDbone75 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A very good Tuesday evening to you all from Wellington Somerset

  • @nickwebb9290
    @nickwebb9290 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A superb post. You’ve certainly put me straight on flag etiquette, thank you Tom 😁

  • @DrCrabfingers
    @DrCrabfingers ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bless you Tom. Your ensign is super but not as super as the beauty at 1:40!! Now THAT is an ensign!! Your courtesy flag is fab...I've seen courtesy flags being flown that are dismally small...the size of a packet of cigarettes....I call them discourtesy flags. Best wishes from a misty Lulworth, Dorset.

  • @reloadncharge9907
    @reloadncharge9907 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Enjoyed Mr Tom, good to see you up again! Thx, Andrew

  • @tomg8636
    @tomg8636 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i love this stuff, one day i shall have my own yacht and live by this example.

  • @stefflus08
    @stefflus08 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks! My friends and family think I'm weird when I'm strict about these things. It was engrained in me in the Royal Norwegian Navy.

  • @johnsmall9729
    @johnsmall9729 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    God bless Tom, and God bless Robert ⚓⚓

  • @francismontocchio9910
    @francismontocchio9910 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's also nice to fly the national flags of your crew or visitors on the port side under the spreaders!!

  • @jensrasmussen4626
    @jensrasmussen4626 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you Tom, thats the way to do it right, see you in the Baltic, greetings from Svendborg

  • @anthonyslattery8808
    @anthonyslattery8808 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was really informative thankyou. Love the the local swindler🤣

  • @serenitycoastUK
    @serenitycoastUK ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My partner is from Latvia. When she's here I fly it high. When she goes I lower it half way for a day or two as a signal that ill be walking around like a lost puppy. Then away so it doesn't get weathered. Luckily it spends around 10 months flighting high.

    • @saltybuster946
      @saltybuster946 ปีที่แล้ว

      As large as you can, without railing in the ogin

    • @DrCrabfingers
      @DrCrabfingers ปีที่แล้ว

      I love that!

  • @DirkJacobsz
    @DirkJacobsz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "We have to remember who we are - and where we have come from". Sage words in these crazy days - of GPTChat4 - Artificial intelligence - and everyone and his dog has special rights... thanks Tom loved it..

  • @Deperdussin1910
    @Deperdussin1910 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I fly a large burgee bent on to a 6 foot pig stick hoisted atop the mainmast on my ketch...as my low tech wind indicator.

  • @robertshallcross7659
    @robertshallcross7659 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting consiece and informative. Thankyou.

  • @martins4831
    @martins4831 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video Tom, very interesting as always.
    But how do us motorboaters (yes, some of us like to do things properly too) fly courtesy and club flags? It's very difficult on a vestigial mast. I would love to see your video guidance on this.

  • @Olieman2012
    @Olieman2012 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great post on a good naval tradition with indeed local differences: in Norway you can expect comments when you fly yr ensign after dawn!

  • @chazsemeur
    @chazsemeur 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanx for this clarity Tom
    Do crochet flags count .?we have found most materials of Commercially made flags to retail fall short on longevity !
    I like your discipline regarding the ensign . It seems to me to lend a thoughtful start to any day afloat 🙏🏾
    Chaz n Gloria UFOII

  • @PillSharks
    @PillSharks ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m a Pill Hobbler Tom and I was shocked when you mentioned Hobbler from Shoreham! I didn’t think they were called that on the south coast? I know plenty of places in the Bristol Channel had Hobblers and in Dublin but as far as I’m aware we are the last surviving Hobblers who still pull ships ropes.
    As for flag etiquette, well we don’t see many commercial ships flying a red ensign now..in fact it’s flown more as a courtesy flag now rather than being flown over the stern!

  • @johnhewett2525
    @johnhewett2525 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Tom, I found the video on the Q flag and have to admit that I have been doing it wrong. A simple explanation that makes sense. Thankyou.

  • @thatsailingpage
    @thatsailingpage ปีที่แล้ว

    A friend used to call it "putting the Queen to bed" (or King, I suppose, now). It's nice to have a good quality ensign (and courtesy flags), the same as putting on a pair of shoes and clean shirt when clearing in at a foreign port.

  • @wills681
    @wills681 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoyed this. Back in the day American friends of mine entertained themselves by sailing their 25-footer past anchored ships of the US Navy Pacific Fleet and dipping their ensign in salute. For many years they have dined out on how all the warships, including the mahoosive USS Nimitz, returned the courtesy.

    • @woolyimage
      @woolyimage ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I pleased to hear that. In many years in the merchant navy I have dipped the red duster to navy ships of many nationalities and have never seen a situation where the naval vessel did not reply in kind. But that was also back in the day ! Would they still do it now, I hope so.

    • @ruthedwards7775
      @ruthedwards7775 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, have seen a super video of recent years in which an ex-RN Photographer whose small yacht I've been privileged to sail on, dipped his (blue) ensign to a huge RN ship which returned his courtesy in like manner.

  • @keitharmitage6067
    @keitharmitage6067 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great and informative video, Tom, thank you. I was just wondering how and where motor yachts flew flags and burgees. Many years ago, sailing from the JSSTC in Black Arrow, we overnighted in Cowes and took our lead from the RYS. When the white ensigns went down, ours followed within seconds.

  • @kbbarton1
    @kbbarton1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I tend to be very conscientious about flag etiquette as well, as I think it is a fine tradition (and it was beaten into me in the Navy many years ago 😁). I have often wondered whether to strike my courtesy and house flags along with the ensign at evening colors, and I think I shall from now on. Regarding courtesy flags, I have also wondered what is proper/appropriate when entering the waters of a country that is a territory, protectorate, or some other official relation of another country. For example, if one sails into Martinique, would it be more appropriate to fly a Martinique courtesy flag, or would it be acceptable to fly the courtesy flag of France? Similarly, would one who was visiting one of the Channel Islands fly their ensign as a courtesy flag, or would the UK Red Ensign be perfectly appropriate?

    • @SimonvanderLinden
      @SimonvanderLinden ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One should fly the national flag as courtesy flag, not regional flags like the Martinique, Corsica, or Brittany ones. For the Channel islands, as far as I know the UK Red Ensign is the appropriate one.

  • @madcarew5168
    @madcarew5168 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A very interesting subject!
    Gordon's Gin penant?

  • @2011Matz
    @2011Matz 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Fare you well you Sydney girls, its time for us to go. The Peter's at the fore truck, five thousand bales below." C. Fox Smith. Some of that wool would be made into bunting to sew Blue Peters, and Red Ensigns. Translucent against the light, Conrad said of the material that it would wear to the last shred.

  • @larsfredriksson2218
    @larsfredriksson2218 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your Culers shows where the ship is from. The Finnish maritan flag has a whit cross in the blu cross on the whit back and it has i interesting history. When Finland was a part of Ryssland ther ships need to flag where they are from so they got permission to flag the marin flag even the national flag was outlawed.

  • @johnhewett2525
    @johnhewett2525 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice video Tom but you never mentioned the quarantine flag and where and when to fly it.🤔🤔🤔🤔

    • @TomCunliffeYachtsandYarns
      @TomCunliffeYachtsandYarns  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's a different matter, John. It's law, not custom. I made a video about the 'Q;' flag some years ago. It's on the channel if you search diligently. It doesn't quite answer your question, but you might enjoy it...

  • @seanbeckerer5089
    @seanbeckerer5089 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video should be called "boating flag etiquette with tom cunliffe".

  • @davidkumeroa2997
    @davidkumeroa2997 ปีที่แล้ว

    So proper. Far out. Thanks for lesson. Kiaora. Never New a Burgy is supposed to be flow from the top of a mast. How do you get it up there without Tangling in your main Halyard?

  • @alexandergstettner9820
    @alexandergstettner9820 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Tom we have learned, when you bring your flag down the terytory country flag where you are also shall brought down. kind regards Alex

  • @seashepherds4959
    @seashepherds4959 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Does the burgee and or Club flags come down at sunset or leave them up overnight- I reckon it goes as the Courtesy flag.

  • @tedb.5707
    @tedb.5707 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had read that flying the courtesy ensign signified you had cleared their customs.

  • @KeepItSimpleSailor
    @KeepItSimpleSailor ปีที่แล้ว

    Even a small ensign is getting expensive these days. And yes, if it’s out 24/7 it lasts about a year 😉

  • @SimonvanderLinden
    @SimonvanderLinden ปีที่แล้ว

    If you take your ensign down, you should also take the courtesy flag down because there is a rule that says that no flag can be flying if the ensign is not flying. On my side of the Channel at least. Cheers. Love your videos.

  • @DaveWatts_ejectamenta
    @DaveWatts_ejectamenta 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You don’t fancy registering your yacht in Denmark Tom, since she’s based there?

  • @j.t.s.3982
    @j.t.s.3982 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does UK sailor handle position of the flag.
    I thought that the flag should be at stern in the middle of the vessel. If this is not possible, than on the starbord side.
    Tom you have the flag the port side - is UK different or it doesn't matter.

  • @CaptDico
    @CaptDico ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting but this will cause palpitations amongst the pink gin set! I fly a Welsh flag of course. I raise the St George’s cross as a courtesy when visiting England.

  • @tomwolstencroft
    @tomwolstencroft ปีที่แล้ว

    the pain of tom

  • @theoriginaldylangreene
    @theoriginaldylangreene ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone have an opinion on courtesy flags with an unstayed mast?

  • @RobertSmith-jl4yw
    @RobertSmith-jl4yw ปีที่แล้ว

    What does one do when one's boat has an unstayed mast (ie. no shrouds or spreaders) as in a junk-rigged boat? Is there an "official protocol"? I would be interested to hear what you or your viewers have to say. Thanks very much.

  • @billattwood2673
    @billattwood2673 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video, Tom, but you missed Q flag! There are various opinions: 1) Fly Q alone until cleared in, then courtesy; 2) Fly Q over courtesy until cleared in; 3) Fly courtesy over Q until cleared in. I subscribe to (1), I wonder what you and any other commenters do? There is also an appalling "tradition" here in Germany, fortunately only practised by a few, to fly all the courtesy flags, one over another, of the countries visited. And this is done over a period, adding the latest flag on top of the others as a country is "ticked off".

  • @Moonshotmikebridges
    @Moonshotmikebridges ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What size ensign is best? Is there etiquette for this?

    • @TomCunliffeYachtsandYarns
      @TomCunliffeYachtsandYarns  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hi Mike. Ideally, on a yacht, it should hang an inch or three clear of the water in no wind at all. That makes mine 2 yards and it seems about right. I built my ensign staff socket and its chock so that the staff was at the correct angle to accommodate this.

    • @Moonshotmikebridges
      @Moonshotmikebridges ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Tom!

  • @alexandermenzies9954
    @alexandermenzies9954 ปีที่แล้ว

    A little off topic (yes, I always fly the ensign at the near correct times on board and NEVER a tatty example) is the habit of residents of Denmark (particularly on Jutland) to fly the very long "burgee" from their farmhouse poles. This might be a reaction to the WW2 occupation but I've never asked my hosts. Perhaps you know, Tom.

    • @TomCunliffeYachtsandYarns
      @TomCunliffeYachtsandYarns  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Alexander. Since keeping my yacht in Scandinavia and being impressed by the way the locals all fly long 'whimpels' from the flagpole at home, I have now done the same. I have one made in St George's colours and it looks great flying at the bottom of my garden. Thanks, Nordic friends!

    • @alexandermenzies9954
      @alexandermenzies9954 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TomCunliffeYachtsandYarns Well done, Tom, for that "corner of a foreign field
      That is for ever England"!
      Next visit to Vest Stadil Fjord and I'll see what I can do with an Australian 'whimpel' at the EE138 site..

  • @larsfredriksson2218
    @larsfredriksson2218 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have to flag if you have gest or crew of a nother nachalty then your flag in the aft downt you. I suppose så that the custard can check passports and stuff. On whit side do you flag the amerikan flag or the Kurdish flag if you have a Kurdish national on board?

  • @simonelwell
    @simonelwell ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video Mr C. I found points I agree with, and points I differ on.
    I do fly a burgee at the spreaders - unless I have the right to fly a flag - ie a flag officer or past commodore. I wish too, that I had the discipline to take the colours up and down - but I find that beyond me every day.
    I agree about ensigns however - and the need for a smart one. I don't see the respect in the "shabby chic" habit of wearing a faded pink ensign with a tatty fly and proudly boasting about its 20 years of service. It's just scruffy!
    ...and yes - nothing worse than a boat in foreign waters that doesn't show its host the respect of a courtesy ensign. In response to a question below - in Brittany, for example, we fly the Tricolore with a Brittany flag beneath it. Why not?

  • @ThorpRJ
    @ThorpRJ ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it still etiquette to dip your ensign for a Royal Naval craft?

    • @ruthedwards7775
      @ruthedwards7775 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, I sailed with an ex-RN Photographer who's entitled to fly a blue ensign, and he has a super video of him dipping it to a huge RN ship, who dipped theirs in return of the courtesy.

    • @ruthedwards7775
      @ruthedwards7775 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As far as I know, yes. and they should respond in like manner.

  • @will_j
    @will_j ปีที่แล้ว

    Another way of halving your flag costs is to only get an ensign that could cover half of an entire country :)

  • @ende421
    @ende421 ปีที่แล้ว

    The rule for courtesy flags is: Do the same as with your own colours. Isn't it?

  • @herbdesson6843
    @herbdesson6843 ปีที่แล้ว

    what if there are no spreaders?

    • @TomCunliffeYachtsandYarns
      @TomCunliffeYachtsandYarns  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Seize a small block about 2/3 of the way up the shrouds from the bottom. That worked well on a boat I had with no spreaders.

    • @herbdesson6843
      @herbdesson6843 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TomCunliffeYachtsandYarns thanku

  • @grahamsmith8122
    @grahamsmith8122 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought the reason you leave your flag out, especially in quiet anchorages, is to show that being an English yachtsman, your on at least 5 to 1 of chain. It says, piss off and anchor as far away from me as you can! Cant beat plenty of swinging room.

  • @oberonandbeamish
    @oberonandbeamish 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wouldn’t it be great if UK leisure craft were allowed to fly the Union flag, always jealous of other nations that fly their own national flag as an ensign.

  • @waterboy8999
    @waterboy8999 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have no interest or respect for what some slave trader thought about flying a bloody flag, I keep mine in the shed.

  • @moejaime2654
    @moejaime2654 ปีที่แล้ว +3

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