Wasn’t aware of that eyepiece that turns it into its own standalone thermal monocular, very cool! How much is that extra little adapter? Have you guys played with the new fusion thermal NV binos from infiray? FB I think it’s called?
You can find the eyepiece on our website. The JerryFB, from when we tested it, had some good ideas but the build quality and lens quality left a lot to be desired and as a result we are holding off until the next generation comes around. But it does scratch the thermal fusion itch a bit... Just understand that it is quite unrefined.
I really want this, mostly to enhance my current night vision usage but also for potential SHTF having a thermal integrated into my nods seems like it punches high
Very professional video. I have the rh25 but it’s only good for hand held or as a clip on in front of an lpvo. Tried running with PVS 14 doesn’t work well. This looks great to clip on my binos
What about running both pvs14 and the rh25 that put you off? I have a mh25 v2 and was thinking of getting a pvs14 to run next to it. I read that trying to see both at the same time made your head hurt
Any info on how to make use the video output/input into the JerryC? Also is there any news of potentially open source software to play with more settings eg: cleaning up the thermal image with better algorithms.
From our testing out to 500m, we did not see a difference. I don't imagine that you would. A lot of devices in iRay's line use 320 cores and they have detection ranges exceeding 1km. From our experience, the lens size matters more but in this case the CE5 and CE2 have the same lens size. I think iRay made a good move in terms of sizing down on the display on the CE2 rather than simply magnifying the smaller resolution core.
@@coldharboursupply That's great to hear, you might've saved me a grand. Last thing; the CE2 is a 384 core not 320, right? I think you say 320 in the vid but your website says 384
@@RDT_IR You are correct.. we always default to "640" and "320" cores as those just seem like industry standard "buzzwords" but the CE2 is in fact a 384x288 core. (as you can imagine this is hard to remember)
Awesome video, brother. I’ve read that the overlay of the C5/C2 can cause both temporary burns or permanent burn-in on a variety of tubes. L3 tubes seem to be the most sensitive to this and Elbit/Phototonis thin-filmed seem to be most resistant. Have you noticed anything like this before? I’m using L3 bino’s btw. No sense creating burn-in, and perhaps it is best to just buy a dedicated unit like the MH25 or RH25 (or ML19 for that matter).
Your mileage may vary depending on what mode you're in, how bright your ambient light levels are and how high you have to turn the brightness on the JerryC to overcome that. Generally speaking we try to stay below 40% regardless of tube
@@coldharboursupply very good to know. Truly Appreciate the swift reply. I’m running an N-Vision Halo X50 for my thermal today, which is fantastic. However, it’s big and sits on a heavy firearm. Really tough to scan with. Hence my question on the scanning optics. If you had a choice, based on a sole need for scanning brush/fields to ID (not necessarily PID with it), which would you pick between the ML19, MH25 V2, or RH25?
@@garrickr5084 If weight is of no concern, then RH25. Otherwise MH25, but you will lose the ability to collimate your thermal to a night vision device if you're using it as a bridged hybrid setup.
Browsing these they seem to be always pictured on binocular units, is that a requirement or will one of these work well on a monocular configuration as well?
In our testing in practical scenarios we were able to see a human-sized target past 400m, but they looked more like a speck at that point. Keep in mind that the host device is 1x magnification and there's a limit to the pixel size.
Does CE5 take its own exclusive battery cable or standard LEMO/FISHiER cable? For example, Lindu nvg take exclusive battery cable that does not compatible with other battery packs. . .
We do not recommend powering the Jerry devices off of 3rd party battery packs using low-voltage cells due to substantially decreased battery life and voltage incompatability. The aftermarket splitters need a buck converter to be added.
Could a clip-on thermal device overlay onto non-NV optics? For example, onto one of the objective lenses of a pair of binoculars, if you found a way of rigging it up. I'm thinking for highlighting well-camouflaged subjects (eg. birds).
Well I'm not too happy with my COTI, so it's between this and the RH25. Took 3 months for warranties repair and warranty runs out in December. They don't even have the housings to replace COTIs in circulation in the event they are damaged.
I keep investigating NV and thermal vids before buying, and I'm finding out my eyes are bigger than my wallet.
The comparison and contrast between the devices discussed was super helpful and comprehensive. Thank you!
Probably the first yt channel i found that gives thorough and clear information about night vision and thermals. Thank you sir!
Have both HM25 (with PVS 14 eyepiece) and CE5. Both are great devices!
If you’re looking to donate, I know a guy that needs one.
@@doubleemcastillano464 I can only donate with DTNVS included haha
Great overview! Thank you for taking the time to make this!
Awesome learned that I can calibrate my jerry 🤘😎🤘 was kinda disappointed when I got it I thought u couldn’t 👏👏👏👏
This is an excellent video. Your a wealth of knowledge. Thank you!
Essentially…basically…actually … a good review
Great review. Thanks for posting it!
Wasn’t aware of that eyepiece that turns it into its own standalone thermal monocular, very cool! How much is that extra little adapter?
Have you guys played with the new fusion thermal NV binos from infiray? FB I think it’s called?
You can find the eyepiece on our website.
The JerryFB, from when we tested it, had some good ideas but the build quality and lens quality left a lot to be desired and as a result we are holding off until the next generation comes around. But it does scratch the thermal fusion itch a bit... Just understand that it is quite unrefined.
I really want this, mostly to enhance my current night vision usage but also for potential SHTF having a thermal integrated into my nods seems like it punches high
Very professional video. I have the rh25 but it’s only good for hand held or as a clip on in front of an lpvo. Tried running with PVS 14 doesn’t work well. This looks great to clip on my binos
What about running both pvs14 and the rh25 that put you off? I have a mh25 v2 and was thinking of getting a pvs14 to run next to it. I read that trying to see both at the same time made your head hurt
Does the Jerry C feed thermal to both left and right eyes if you have binos? Or just the eye that its attached to?
Just the eye it's attached to.
Any info on how to make use the video output/input into the JerryC? Also is there any news of potentially open source software to play with more settings eg: cleaning up the thermal image with better algorithms.
We're getting the C5 in a few weeks and will circle back. Presumably it comes with a video out cable.
@@accordnation Please let me know!
@@accordnation me too
@@accordnation Any update yet??
I need this I will go in the hole for this
Excellent overview. Do you think the CE2 sacrifices detection range?
From our testing out to 500m, we did not see a difference. I don't imagine that you would. A lot of devices in iRay's line use 320 cores and they have detection ranges exceeding 1km. From our experience, the lens size matters more but in this case the CE5 and CE2 have the same lens size. I think iRay made a good move in terms of sizing down on the display on the CE2 rather than simply magnifying the smaller resolution core.
@@coldharboursupply That's great to hear, you might've saved me a grand. Last thing; the CE2 is a 384 core not 320, right? I think you say 320 in the vid but your website says 384
@@RDT_IR You are correct.. we always default to "640" and "320" cores as those just seem like industry standard "buzzwords" but the CE2 is in fact a 384x288 core. (as you can imagine this is hard to remember)
Awesome video, brother. I’ve read that the overlay of the C5/C2 can cause both temporary burns or permanent burn-in on a variety of tubes. L3 tubes seem to be the most sensitive to this and Elbit/Phototonis thin-filmed seem to be most resistant. Have you noticed anything like this before? I’m using L3 bino’s btw. No sense creating burn-in, and perhaps it is best to just buy a dedicated unit like the MH25 or RH25 (or ML19 for that matter).
Your mileage may vary depending on what mode you're in, how bright your ambient light levels are and how high you have to turn the brightness on the JerryC to overcome that. Generally speaking we try to stay below 40% regardless of tube
@@coldharboursupply very good to know. Truly Appreciate the swift reply. I’m running an N-Vision Halo X50 for my thermal today, which is fantastic. However, it’s big and sits on a heavy firearm. Really tough to scan with. Hence my question on the scanning optics. If you had a choice, based on a sole need for scanning brush/fields to ID (not necessarily PID with it), which would you pick between the ML19, MH25 V2, or RH25?
@@garrickr5084 If weight is of no concern, then RH25. Otherwise MH25, but you will lose the ability to collimate your thermal to a night vision device if you're using it as a bridged hybrid setup.
Wtf really??
Hello. Could you tell me what it means function PAL in the settings menu? And the same question about (Auto), (Mod). Best regards.
Do they work well with boomslang optics? I would love to get one for my nightline but I have the 50° glass instead of the Carson or RPO.
nice overview
Will IR lasers and illum still show up in the thermal window when it’s on?
Browsing these they seem to be always pictured on binocular units, is that a requirement or will one of these work well on a monocular configuration as well?
They work very well on monoculars also.
How much is the difference between 384 & 640 image quality in a 1x nvg ?
Whats the useful range of the 384 version of the jerry c? Thanks.
In our testing in practical scenarios we were able to see a human-sized target past 400m, but they looked more like a speck at that point. Keep in mind that the host device is 1x magnification and there's a limit to the pixel size.
Seems like a failure point here would be the projector, what if it fogs up or what if it’s raining?
Could you show me please how you place 18650 battery inside external battery pack? Mine is way to short.
Does CE5 take its own exclusive battery cable or standard LEMO/FISHiER cable?
For example, Lindu nvg take exclusive battery cable that does not compatible with other battery packs. . .
The CE5 takes its own proprietary cable, but we're looking to have an adapter made so you can use a standard LEMO or BNVD cable.
Is there a firmware upgrade so a CE2 (without Voltage change option in its menu) to be operated with a split cable from a BNVD Battery pack?
We do not recommend powering the Jerry devices off of 3rd party battery packs using low-voltage cells due to substantially decreased battery life and voltage incompatability. The aftermarket splitters need a buck converter to be added.
@@coldharboursupply thank you very much for your answer!
What is the US model of the Jerry C2?
What is Pal setting for?
If this was on a pvs14, can you still use ir??
Yes IR works with no problems. Thermal optics cannot see illuminators.
Do you sell to the US?
Yes we do.
@@coldharboursupply if someone from the US buys a thermal unit and it needs repair, can we ship it back to you? Is ITAR a problem for warranty work?
@@carlh4350 We have set up a local service point in the USA for warranty work.
@@coldharboursupply good to know. Thanks for the reply
Could a clip-on thermal device overlay onto non-NV optics? For example, onto one of the objective lenses of a pair of binoculars, if you found a way of rigging it up. I'm thinking for highlighting well-camouflaged subjects (eg. birds).
I don't think it would work as the COTI relies on a very specific configuration of lenses, optical configuration, and light amplification.
where can I find that cable at?
Out on our website now!
I cant understand how you dont see the projector when it should be right in the middle of your field of view..
Light rays don't travel in a singular dimension
Can you explain please?
so small infiray thermal imager。 great fusion image。
2:42 Ratchet clamp or vice bracket*
Sadly these Chinese "Infiray" seems to play a sad helping role in the 3tnlch cl34nsing taking place in Ukraine.
Very hard into bed with Russia.
Well I'm not too happy with my COTI, so it's between this and the RH25. Took 3 months for warranties repair and warranty runs out in December. They don't even have the housings to replace COTIs in circulation in the event they are damaged.
Sometimes you got to put politics to the side when it comes to protecting yourself.
Are there pvs31 mounting brackets for these?
Can you provide us with the exact diameter of where the bracket would attach and we can see about getting some made?
@@coldharboursupply Sure, I'll have to measure this weekend. I imagine you'd also need a distance from the mounting shoulder to the objective?