@@lekagc1 I’ll look into. Forgot about this comment; mostly using Lahiri & lately been checking out Pushya-Paksha due to PVR Narasimha Rao’s predictions.
Galactic center ayanamsa is the link between tropical and sidereal. The Mayans knew the seasons lined up with the Galactic center every 25,000 years. That's what 2012 was about. Use the Galactic center ayanamsa then use the D9 and see how accurate it is.
The ancient Babylonians and Egyptians (and Greeks before Ptolemy) also used True Chitrapaksha (with a difference of 1 degree). It was centered on Aldebaran being at 15 degrees Taurus.
The question I have about sidereal ayanamsha is why must it be in reference to tropical zodiac. Cannot sidereal ayanamsha be reckoned without tropical system?
चैत्रवैशाखादि मास की पूर्णिमाएँ जो चित्राविशाखादि नक्षत्रोँ मेँ होती हैँ क्या अयनांश के कारण खिसके मासोँ की पूर्णिमाएँ भी उन्हीँ नक्षत्रोँ मेँ होती हैँ कि उनमेँ अन्तर होता है स्पष्ट करेँ।।
Most idiotic advise given by a reputed author such as sanjay Rath.. How many of us are knowledgeable enough to observe chitra star every day ? How many of astrologer really know how to and where to see and calculate the position? Speak something which can be done by everyone..Andrew Ross was probably the one to answer clearly..but still the answer wasn't clear ..they told to ask guru... What if the one who is teaching himself has no knowledge Abt it and is jst following what has been told by his teacher..? They never mentioned which ayanamse they're personally making use of..
N.C. Lahiri was asked by PM Nehru to fix up one standard Ayanamsa to 'standardize' all festivals of India into single dates. He selected Chitrapaksha Ayanamsa, which automatically became Lahiri Ayanamsa. N.C. Lahiri was an astronomer and a beaurocrat. Shri KN Rao follows Lahiri Ayanamsa and due to his Herculean efforts to make Jyotisha as a Research based subject, made this Ayanamsa popular worldwide. Raman and Rao had a fallout over Lahiri Ayanamsa. The Question of Ayanamsa is a Vexed one.
I think more than any debate on how good or bad one looks based on ayanamsa - all the "mambo" that may swing one way - there has to be music first - how do we know we have the right chart? different ayanamsa throw the lagna here and there and there mostly needs some form of rectification. In Southern India - The Rishis have always used "Vaakya" Panchang" against the Chitrapaksha and argue with valid points with reference to for an example my chart where they are able to pin point certain events..i must say "still quite lost" in the sea of ayanamsa as one needs to get the proper chart drawn out before any predictions can only happen..sigh..but Kudos to Dr.Andrew for tackling this with a Software with regards to the Chitrapaksha.
@@nir2594 do you mean the shadbala calculation is wrong in Prashara's Light? It's important for me because i'm using Kala 2018 and there's a difference in shadbala values between Parashara's LIght and Kala.
Interesting,but isn t vega the brightest star? Plus the so called fixed stars aren t really fixed, they slowly moving. So in some thousand years spica will not be there anymore...
Taking a specific star is not a traditional way to find the Ayanamsa.Surya Siddhantha supports this.we have to find out visually by observation only.How can we suggest Chitra Paksha is aacurate and correct. Here is the reference from Surya Siddhantha. गोलं लब्ध्वा परीक्षेत विक्षेपं ध्रुवकं स्फुटम् ॥ 8.12 || Another Reference From Surya Siddhantha स्फुटं दृक्तुल्यतां गच्छेदयने विषुवद्वये । प्राक्चक्रं चलितं हीने छायार्कात्करणागते ॥ 3.11 ||
It could be any Ayanaamsha but the fact is based on any Ayanaamsha if you predict the present Events of life it should be exactly matching with once current events of life I can take soo many examples where based on Ayanaamsha predictions it is not at matching with current events of once life 😮
The Seven Rishis are mentioned in the civilizations of Sumer and Babylon Seven wise men and there are traces of them that you can look at Thousands of years older than the history of India... Everything India has is just copy-paste and influenced by ancient civilizations! Every period, the religion of India is renewed by adding new things, new philosophies, new technologies, and new rituals, until it reached the point that there are holy books and Puranas written in the Middle Ages!
pt sanjay rath seems arrogant most of the time and astrology is a science there is always scope of changes and improvement..but he is always adamant about his calculations
Its not adamant if you see our ancient rushi whatever they written many many ppl studied and tried to change but however they came in same point where rushi is there ...its look like we ll get more accurate day by day we can develop..its never gone happen ..because rushi written not by seing daily nakshtra they just went in meditation and by that way they get this ...not only in astrology many many time ppl tried change Vedas also its comes in same point ...so taking rushis way always perfect we understand only when we observed things not only studying because this all hole world is bhava samudra
We ask Indians why scholars agree that the Vedas were written between 600 BC and 1200 BC Why did you not record and document the Vedas before that, as all civilizations did in their history? They say: It was sacred and we were transmitting it orally, and then we had the idea to write the Vedas! It seems it suddenly became unholy and was written! We tell them: There is no problem, this happens. Perhaps it was actually transmitted orally and then it was written down Another question: Where are the relics of the idols of the gods Shiva, Kali, Vishnu, and Lakshmi? Why do we not see any ancient relics in India, as in Mesopotamia and the Pharaohs? no answer! Did you know that when the sacred Vedas were documented, the last civilization in Iraq fell? We also ask him: Why do you have seven sages, seven Rishis, and in the Mesopotamian civilizations with documents, records and statues, there are seven sages? Were you Sumerian-Babylonian, or were you influenced by the Mesopotamian civilizations neighboring you?! The Seven Wise Men from the Sumer Civilization Or does India have a civilization older than the Sumer civilization and we do not know?! The religions of India, the multiplicity of gods, and the abundance of philosophy in it, and this confusion is the subject of doubts from many scholars, especially those who have studied history and are neutral. Of course, every human being sees himself as the center of the universe... Every people thinks they are the immortal people... We follow science, records and documents and do not care about false patriotism... Everyone has a sense of patriotism! There are no ancient monuments in India as in Mesopotamia and the Pharaohs Indeed, modern temples with clear features, decoration and materials are modern and do not require any archaeological expert. They were built after AD. They say that they were built in twenty thousand BC! Indian movie What's Happening in India! Just as two hundred million Indians became Muslims... through the god Vayu, the god of the winds, the religion was transferred and an Indian was born a Muslim. It also seems that the winds of neighboring religions have spread to India year after year! Do you know how I compare the situation to India? Like a "backward" person who maintained "old" traditions while people abandoned them, and he basically copied the fashion and imitated it from someone else! But he froze in his place, maintaining it, so he thought that this fashion originally came from his first grandfather!
The Seven Rishis are not Vedic, but rather from the Sumerian civilization, and the Indians were influenced by that The “open source” Indian culture takes everything and the Puranas were all written late, but the Vedas do not exceed a maximum of one thousand five hundred years BC... There are not even ancient monuments in India that are equivalent to those found in Iraq and Egypt from a civilizational standpoint. You now have two hundred million Muslims. How did Indians become Muslims? How did Europe become Christian? It is all a process of transferring, copying and pasting, and being influenced by neighboring civilizations and cultures Everything the Indians had came from Mesopotamia and the Pharaohs The Jewish religion is also a copy-paste of the Babylonian civilization It does not mean that you are now a Muslim and you are an Indian. It does not mean that Islam came out of India It does not mean that you are now a Christian. It means that Christianity left India Just because you have seven wise men does not mean that they are from India! Documented by antiquities and records older than the first urban settlement in India by three thousand years in Iraq in the Sumer civilization. So, research how this information was transferred and how the seven wise men moved from Iraq to India! All the rituals and astrology of the Indians are copies and pastes from the civilization of Babylon and its environs
Vedic astrology came from the civilizations of Mesopotamia and the Pharaohs, mainly through Iran, and many techniques were transferred from the Greeks. In fact, Indian astrologers even borrowed techniques from the Arabs! Now it is used in Indian astrology, and I think you know what it is and how it arrived in Indian astrology Even the Arabs were taken from them! The Seven Rishis, originally wise men from the Sumer civilization, are the first to be mentioned in records, and they have statues, and this thing is documented, and you do not have any traces, statues, or documents to say this false talk.
I haven't used Dr Andrew Foss' software but his explantion is excellent and in parallel with Vedic literature. Thank you for the video!
So sweetly conveyed, deep knowledge. Bowing to masters of astrology.
Thank you so much for this video. Kindly do more of these. We love to hear it from you all and specially the Guru Sanjay Ji
The mahadasha resulting from using Raman ayunansha looks more accurate in my chart
What do you think about Aryabhata?
@@lekagc1 I’ll look into. Forgot about this comment; mostly using Lahiri & lately been checking out Pushya-Paksha due to PVR Narasimha Rao’s predictions.
@@1111comment some sideral astrologers are following galactic center middle mula too and it has worked well.
@@lekagc1 if you are good in astrology no need of ascendant you can predict from moon chart only but the question is what is correct ayanamsha.
Same here bro
nice video and very good informative hence very very congratulate........ and Thanks a lot.......
I heard Dr BV Raman didn’t like the change to Lahiri.
Galactic center ayanamsa is the link between tropical and sidereal. The Mayans knew the seasons lined up with the Galactic center every 25,000 years. That's what 2012 was about. Use the Galactic center ayanamsa then use the D9 and see how accurate it is.
Should i use 5 degrees galatic center ayanamsa?
I always felt like lowkey the Mayans were great descendants possibly of Indians, theyre name 'maya' is literally in hindu as well. Mahamaya
Thanks for all of ur knowledge greatful for all ur contribution Hari hari 🌌🌱
The ancient Babylonians and Egyptians (and Greeks before Ptolemy) also used True Chitrapaksha (with a difference of 1 degree). It was centered on Aldebaran being at 15 degrees Taurus.
It is Rohini paksha
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Most correct is Raman.
But according to research done by me it must be fine tuned
Raman works perfectly in my chart
very rare information here. thank you
Traditional Lahiri Aynamsha is ineffective for Divisional charts. True Lahiri/ Chitrapaksha Aynamsha does well here.
Thank you both makes perfect since .
Thanks for the clarification !
The question I have about sidereal ayanamsha is why must it be in reference to tropical zodiac. Cannot sidereal ayanamsha be reckoned without tropical system?
I guess its because back in old days it was easier to get tropical zodiac timing as solistice and equinoxes are easily observable/noticeable.
@@Moonlight-ov9ol But they are still doing it today.
Tropical is already Sayan ayanamsha
@@SayanMavrick The question is how is sidereal ayanamsha calculated? Why must it reference tropical?
Awesome video and for completed perfect debate..
चैत्रवैशाखादि मास की पूर्णिमाएँ जो चित्राविशाखादि नक्षत्रोँ मेँ होती हैँ क्या अयनांश के कारण खिसके मासोँ की पूर्णिमाएँ भी उन्हीँ नक्षत्रोँ मेँ होती हैँ कि उनमेँ अन्तर होता है स्पष्ट करेँ।।
Most idiotic advise given by a reputed author such as sanjay Rath..
How many of us are knowledgeable enough to observe chitra star every day ?
How many of astrologer really know how to and where to see and calculate the position?
Speak something which can be done by everyone..Andrew Ross was probably the one to answer clearly..but still the answer wasn't clear ..they told to ask guru...
What if the one who is teaching himself has no knowledge Abt it and is jst following what has been told by his teacher..?
They never mentioned which ayanamse they're personally making use of..
Correct. Please use Sayana with sidereal nakshatras (Lahiri will do). Only this way you may see the correct placements of grahas.
Very true!! @kumar. Pushya paksha seems to be perfect
Hey my lord 👣👣👣
N.C. Lahiri was asked by PM Nehru to fix up one standard Ayanamsa to 'standardize' all festivals of India into single dates.
He selected Chitrapaksha Ayanamsa, which automatically became Lahiri Ayanamsa.
N.C. Lahiri was an astronomer and a beaurocrat.
Shri KN Rao follows Lahiri Ayanamsa and due to his Herculean efforts to make Jyotisha as a Research based subject, made this Ayanamsa popular worldwide.
Raman and Rao had a fallout over Lahiri Ayanamsa.
The Question of Ayanamsa is a Vexed one.
I think more than any debate on how good or bad one looks based on ayanamsa - all the "mambo" that may swing one way - there has to be music first - how do we know we have the right chart? different ayanamsa throw the lagna here and there and there mostly needs some form of rectification.
In Southern India - The Rishis have always used "Vaakya" Panchang" against the Chitrapaksha and argue with valid points with reference to for an example my chart where they are able to pin point certain events..i must say "still quite lost" in the sea of ayanamsa as one needs to get the proper chart drawn out before any predictions can only happen..sigh..but Kudos to Dr.Andrew for tackling this with a Software with regards to the Chitrapaksha.
hi, So is the primary question is character of a person determined by the zodiac or the season?
Which is the best 'Vedic Astrology' software to use ???
Jagannath hora
jkala software is very good
Parashara horo
A ten times more powerful software with 100s of options..
@@janaraj47 shadbala calculations are off in parashara
@@nir2594 do you mean the shadbala calculation is wrong in Prashara's Light? It's important for me because i'm using Kala 2018 and there's a difference in shadbala values between Parashara's LIght and Kala.
Interesting,but isn t vega the brightest star? Plus the so called fixed stars aren t really fixed, they slowly moving. So in some thousand years spica will not be there anymore...
Correctly told
Lahiri will give wrong chart
Subhadeep Kumar Sayan. You could also follow PV Rao’s Jagannath hora system . But I personally prefer Sayan
Chitrapaksha ayanamsha is good. I can do prevision with it correctly.
Yes Lahiri is wrong,it gives totally wrong dashas and divisional charts. I use PVR Narasimha Rao's True Pushya Paksha Ayanamsha. That is correct!
Chandra hari is best
It uses muka nakshatra as base behind which there is black hole which never moves
what about true pushya
Taking a specific star is not a traditional way to find the Ayanamsa.Surya Siddhantha supports this.we have to find out visually by observation only.How can we suggest Chitra Paksha is aacurate and correct. Here is the reference from Surya Siddhantha. गोलं लब्ध्वा परीक्षेत विक्षेपं ध्रुवकं स्फुटम् ॥ 8.12 ||
Another Reference From Surya Siddhantha
स्फुटं दृक्तुल्यतां गच्छेदयने विषुवद्वये ।
प्राक्चक्रं चलितं हीने छायार्कात्करणागते ॥ 3.11 ||
Could you translate this, please?
thank you
It could be any Ayanaamsha but the fact is based on any Ayanaamsha if you predict the present Events of life it should be exactly matching with once current events of life
I can take soo many examples where based on Ayanaamsha predictions it is not at matching with current events of once life 😮
❤❤
The Seven Rishis are mentioned in the civilizations of Sumer and Babylon
Seven wise men and there are traces of them that you can look at
Thousands of years older than the history of India... Everything India has is just copy-paste and influenced by ancient civilizations!
Every period, the religion of India is renewed by adding new things, new philosophies, new technologies, and new rituals, until it reached the point that there are holy books and Puranas written in the Middle Ages!
Can there be difference in charts for Chitra Paksha and Krishna Paksha Ayanamsa...
There is nothing like Krishna Paksha Ayanamsa
Bro it's not thithi, they are talking about ayanamsha
Lahiri all the way
“ Looking good “ would pretty well indicate one is using the wrong methodology......
🙏🏼♾
v nice
pt sanjay rath seems arrogant most of the time and astrology is a science there is always scope of changes and improvement..but he is always adamant about his calculations
Its not adamant if you see our ancient rushi whatever they written many many ppl studied and tried to change but however they came in same point where rushi is there ...its look like we ll get more accurate day by day we can develop..its never gone happen ..because rushi written not by seing daily nakshtra they just went in meditation and by that way they get this ...not only in astrology many many time ppl tried change Vedas also its comes in same point ...so taking rushis way always perfect we understand only when we observed things not only studying because this all hole world is bhava samudra
Unjustified remarks
His prediction never came true 😅😅😅😅😅 and he thinks he is the varahmahira of today's india😅😅😅
We ask Indians why scholars agree that the Vedas were written between 600 BC and 1200 BC
Why did you not record and document the Vedas before that, as all civilizations did in their history?
They say: It was sacred and we were transmitting it orally, and then we had the idea to write the Vedas!
It seems it suddenly became unholy and was written!
We tell them: There is no problem, this happens. Perhaps it was actually transmitted orally and then it was written down
Another question: Where are the relics of the idols of the gods Shiva, Kali, Vishnu, and Lakshmi? Why do we not see any ancient relics in India, as in Mesopotamia and the Pharaohs?
no answer!
Did you know that when the sacred Vedas were documented, the last civilization in Iraq fell?
We also ask him:
Why do you have seven sages, seven Rishis, and in the Mesopotamian civilizations with documents, records and statues, there are seven sages?
Were you Sumerian-Babylonian, or were you influenced by the Mesopotamian civilizations neighboring you?!
The Seven Wise Men from the Sumer Civilization Or does India have a civilization older than the Sumer civilization and we do not know?!
The religions of India, the multiplicity of gods, and the abundance of philosophy in it, and this confusion is the subject of doubts from many scholars, especially those who have studied history and are neutral.
Of course, every human being sees himself as the center of the universe... Every people thinks they are the immortal people... We follow science, records and documents and do not care about false patriotism... Everyone has a sense of patriotism!
There are no ancient monuments in India as in Mesopotamia and the Pharaohs
Indeed, modern temples with clear features, decoration and materials are modern and do not require any archaeological expert. They were built after AD. They say that they were built in twenty thousand BC!
Indian movie What's Happening in India!
Just as two hundred million Indians became Muslims... through the god Vayu, the god of the winds, the religion was transferred and an Indian was born a Muslim.
It also seems that the winds of neighboring religions have spread to India year after year!
Do you know how I compare the situation to India?
Like a "backward" person who maintained "old" traditions while people abandoned them, and he basically copied the fashion and imitated it from someone else!
But he froze in his place, maintaining it, so he thought that this fashion originally came from his first grandfather!
Recommend me some books please
The Seven Rishis are not Vedic, but rather from the Sumerian civilization, and the Indians were influenced by that
The “open source” Indian culture takes everything and the Puranas were all written late, but the Vedas do not exceed a maximum of one thousand five hundred years BC... There are not even ancient monuments in India that are equivalent to those found in Iraq and Egypt from a civilizational standpoint.
You now have two hundred million Muslims. How did Indians become Muslims?
How did Europe become Christian?
It is all a process of transferring, copying and pasting, and being influenced by neighboring civilizations and cultures
Everything the Indians had came from Mesopotamia and the Pharaohs
The Jewish religion is also a copy-paste of the Babylonian civilization
It does not mean that you are now a Muslim and you are an Indian. It does not mean that Islam came out of India
It does not mean that you are now a Christian. It means that Christianity left India
Just because you have seven wise men does not mean that they are from India!
Documented by antiquities and records older than the first urban settlement in India by three thousand years in Iraq in the Sumer civilization.
So, research how this information was transferred and how the seven wise men moved from Iraq to India!
All the rituals and astrology of the Indians are copies and pastes from the civilization of Babylon and its environs
Vedic astrology came from the civilizations of Mesopotamia and the Pharaohs, mainly through Iran, and many techniques were transferred from the Greeks.
In fact, Indian astrologers even borrowed techniques from the Arabs!
Now it is used in Indian astrology, and I think you know what it is and how it arrived in Indian astrology
Even the Arabs were taken from them!
The Seven Rishis, originally wise men from the Sumer civilization, are the first to be mentioned in records, and they have statues, and this thing is documented, and you do not have any traces, statues, or documents to say this false talk.