Crazy how a great actor playing a likeable character in a good show that doesn’t crap on the fans gets paid better than an actress playing an insufferable character in a trash show that only knows to call the fans sexist if they don’t like it
Here's the thing. She-Hulk actually isn't an insufferable character. The many people working on this show, from top to bottom, are insufferable, including the very company that owns her. She-Hulk is one of (if not) the most popular superheroine in Marvel. Unfortunately, this mega turd of a show has hurt any chance of this ultra sexy superheroine to shine in any capacity.
They didnt need CGI for zoro, they didnt need a stunt double for Zoro, they didnt need to pay for sword lessons for him... ya he brought way more to the table, and because of it, it saved the production having to have 5 other people working for his 1 character, unlike she Hulk who probably needed way more then 5 people to create her character.
@@aquilschutte Yeah, they need a foldable sword when they're doing heavy movements like that roll because, believe it or not, they don't want the actor to accidentally pierce himself with a FUCKING sword. unlike the action scenes where they use real swords because they focus on sword fights.
I love the fact that She-Hulk made the comics less popular, but One Piece is helping grow the fanbase and potentially popularizing the manga/anime even more.
absolutly. My younger sibling and I have been watching One Piece for a while, but our mom couldn't stand watching the art style for very long. Once the live-action came out, she was all over it. It is a way for our whole family to know the characters and story which wasn't possible before. We all love Marvel movies, but we didn't even consider watching She-hulk
Honestly, i'm not even sure if it's a good thing. When things go mainstream, it will go either ways : - it will become souless - it will help expend the universe We can only hope it doesn't end up like Star Wars (who is souless and irrelevant).
Well, they did make Gravity Falls, Stars vs the Forces of Evil, and Owl House. All three of those shows were bangers, and the main character of Owl House was in a wholesome lesbian relationship. Wonder what changed for Disney to fall so low 🙁.
mackenyu's a film swordsman since his youth, i believe. mf was also the main antagonist (the one with the orange shiz for shirt) for the Rorouni kenshi LA. they were glorious in the last fight
They always have stunt doubles on standby. Just in case the actors get hurt/sick/unable to do a stunt. They don't save money by doing that, but it saves a lot of time with not having to edit the scenes. Actors that do their own stunt don't get paid a lot more. Actors that do this want to because it makes them more desirable and makes their acting look better. Jackie Chan talk about this a while back.
Long story short, She-hulk got payed less because she acted in a bad show, Zoro's got paid more because he knows what he's doing and acted in a show where ODA HIMSELF was calling the shots.
I would’ve laughed so hard if the actress playing Nami had made more money, like significantly more money than any of her fellow cast members. That just would’ve been so on brand.
Edit: video already answered how much everyone makes. Honestly, it sounds like a studio difference or She-Hulk's agent just made a bad deal, rather anyone being sexist.
It's like these people don't bother to look up who the actor is instead just look at the numbers Mackenyu is a famous overseas actor whose professionally trained to do all stunts. Of course he'd be paid more then a no named actor who needs cgi to do all her work.
@@templarknight7 Pends where cause bet you could ask who she is in Japan and get the same number of tilts if you asked who Mackenyu was in America. One piece is a Japanese brand first and foremost so having a big named Japanese actor is going to be viewed differently in their eyes then in America
I can't even comprehend how Zoro's backstory could be frowned upon like that. I mean they live in a society, their island in this case, that "indoctrinated" all the kids to believe women will grow weaker than women eventually and Kuina does believe it. How could anybody say that Zoro, telling her that the gender shizzle doesnt matter for that, is nothing more than the absolute WoKe gigachad?!
Physically-speaking they're half-correct, women (in the real world at least) physically do not gain as much muscle mass as men, due to having less natural testosterone which aids in the natural development of muscle mass (this is exactly why we have separate men and women's sports). Although the reason I say they're only half-correct is because in the case of the One Piece universe, real life human anatomy doesn't really apply since monstrous powerhouses like Big Mom, Ulti and Yamato exist. So yeah, Zoro's village kinda is lying (or at the very least ignorant) in the greater context of the One Piece universe's two central pillars of power scaling (Haki and Devil Fruit powers).
@@twilighttiger2368 While that maybe true, in the context of swordfighting first there are attributes in which women may more excel. Agility, swiftness and technique in general play also a huge role.
Mackenyu is arguably the only person who has the skill set to play as Zoro, and it's not even just about acting. Plus he also does his own stunt. The pay is well deserved.
There are any number of answers to why the Zorro actor got paid more than the She Hulk actress. 1: He's got more talent than she does. 2: Fight Choreography takes more time and effort than Twerking for a few seconds. 3: He had a better contract
Most of what he said was irrelevant. Different studio, different pay. A gender paygap doesn't exist when the studios that paid them are different. Let's also not forget that She-Hulk was mostly CGI and voice work doesn't net quite as much as physical acting. This argument is like being pissed that workers at two different fast food restaurants don't make the same.
That is what he was saying in the video, that the claim they made was nonsense, that' what the video was about. The "different studio" argument was among the first I made as well on this topic, different companies pay differently, plus he also was for the most part also the stuntman of the character, there should have been even more in for him...
@marcbraun5342 I don't think you read my comment correctly... Nux was correct when he said the guy heavily padded his video with information irrelevant to the subject to hit the 10 minute mark for monetization. The only relevant information is that One Piece and She-Hulk came out of different studios and that the people complaining about a gender paygap in this situation are stupid for trying to compare the pay of actors who worked for different companies.
@@HeatherMason2003 Not entirely as it appears, I thought you meant what he said about the topic, but you meant the whole video. I this case I actually agree with you. That is, more than before, since my original comment was a lot in agreement with yours to begin with. There's actually a point to this. The videos on this channel are framed more as episodes of an ongoing series with a lot of interconnection and not every topic in the video is mentioned in the title. So this is more of a case of another one of these stories mentioned as onyl beeing (that) annoyed of this one story, that is, as we all immediatelly noticed, as the guy in the video already, that it's also easily debunked from a lot of angles. Even then Nux wasn't correct about the padding before, since he thought it will be about something else and said listing of Mackenyu's credentials is irrelevant, which it wasn't about the actual topic of the video, not the line in the show he was expecting.
I was really worried the live action one piece would take out the part of the girl admitting that one day she'll be weaker than men. It was honestly such a touching moment for me personally, as someone who experienced that first hand in my own karate experience. I was really strong and tough at first...until all the boys surpassed me. Then i just felt like something was wrong with me. Definitely a far more toxic mindset than simply understanding and accepting that the truth is the truth, and that men in the end are simply stronger physically. But that doesn't make women "weak" either. We simply have different strengths.
Wait a minute... did anyone else catch how the ACTUAL amounts both Mackenyu and Tatyana made in their respective shows means that Tatyana actually made more than double for playing She-Hulk what Mackenyu made for playing Zoro?
@@NTTofMistery I looked into it more, and either Mackenyu and Emily Rudd made just over 200k each for the season or per episode. So either Maslany made more than both of them combined, or she just got paid less by Disney than the cast of One Piece did by Netflix.
@@lorddjgoliath1809if that’s the case why would she be upset about one piece live action pay wages particularly Zorro being paid more, if in total sum she’d made more then almost the entire cast ? It doesn’t make any sense. Unless someone being disingenuous with their intel.🤔
@@lorddjgoliath1809and I’m not saying it’s you being disingenuous. It’s Just something is not adding up because All this drama is untruthful and unnecessary BS.
The funny part is that Zoro's backstory actually proves that he's the opposite of sexist 😂 Kuina thinks she'll be weaker because she's a girl and Zoro got angry and calls it bullshxt. If those people 'have' to point a finger at the sexist one in the backstory, it would be kuina 😂😂😂
I watch One Piece live action, and they did end up changing a lot, but they also got the characters right and even their backstories factually correct to the manga. And I found it to be quite enjoyable. I watched one episode of She-Hulk and they were twerking at the end of the episode??? Dropped it real quick.
Sadly, the only semi-decent She-Hulk episode is the one with Daredevil. And even then, that's for only 2/3rds of the episode because Murdock bows out after 20 minutes.
Yeah, I’ve noticed this trend with Endymion. Even in the process of making a point I agree with, he will try to make that point with incredibly surface level arguments/comparisons that even I, as someone who agrees with him, can’t help but point out the flaws in. It won’t convince anyone who doesn’t already agree with him
He gave Zoro's pay as a total at 1.7 mil. Right or wrong I have no idea but he was actually saying the other actors as a total not per episode rate... so Mikenu did make the most by a big margin.
Not to sound like I'm picking a fight of any sort with Endymion--I'm really not--but I've noticed in the last couple weeks how many of his videos are "WOKE this" or "WOKE that," how roundabout he is in getting to the main point of his topics, how many attempts he makes at analogy come off as strawman arguments, and, as we see and hear in this video alone, he gets things wrong such as how much one actor is getting paid compared to others. I've seen and argued with worse even on gamefaqs boards in the past, but I don't exactly hold Endymion's views to the highest degree because of how much they're reminding me of those certain political talking points that can be picked apart with minimal research. Again, nothing against Endymion himself or what he chooses to talk about, but his approach to these topics needs work.
Something made with absolute passion and given the time to be made vs yet another fast food happy meal in the cinematic machine. There’s zero comparison.
I've been seeing this video popping up on my suggestions, and haven't wanted to click on it due to the clickbaity title and wording. I'm glad I didn't, but glad to give Nuxanor my view and like, because he was spot on, and the original vid went about how I thought it was gonna go. Great video, Nux, keep up the good work, sir.
The best part of One Piece being so popular is that the actors will probably make 10x the amount for season 2, plus all the other opportunities they'll get. I watched half an episode of She Hulk and couldn't anymore. The people who made that show have no room to speak.
I’m confused, Zoro didn’t make $220,000 per episode he made $220,000 total. Meaning the actress that played she hulk actually made more money then him at a total of $450,000. In fact she made over 2x what he made.
You are confused because he made $220,000 per episode which he made $1,760,000 for all season only got 50,000 per episode which she only made $ 400,000 for whole season 😂
Definitely an overblown “drama” if you can even call it that. I honestly believe this is another case of “woke” bad without any actual depth added to the table.
I think the context is One Piece is way more successful than She Hulk, so the common strategy is to "cancel" the competition because the message must prevail no matter the cost.
@@electroninja7419 it seems like they are only happy if people indulge in their shitty products and attack others for anything if they don't get their way, which they constantly inflate the value of...
never knew anything about one piece. and to be honest i was hoping this series fail like every other live actions, but gonna be honest, its pretty good. the best part of the series are the olders actors, zeff, mihawk, grandpa and zoro its just the gigachad of the series... i want a 2th,3er,4th season... the best fight scenes are from zoro, Zoro fight scenes are fluid and wideshot, you can see all scene...
Ah yes… let’s compare 2 actors from different shows and companies and point out how the man gets paid way more on a show that is actually good. The level of stupidity is reaching other planes of existence.
Nuxanor, you are wrong in this case about Mackenyu only making $220,000 in total for his work on One Piece. I looked into it a bit more and as a matter of fact he was getting paid $220K *per* episode. Nami was getting paid $200K and Inaki Goday (Loofy) was getting $320K per as well, this was for 8 months work. As for Tatiana McSlany, she was paid $50K per episode for 4 we.eks work. Not really much of a comparison when you look deeper and you compare the actors and the work needed now is there? edit - mixed up nami and zoro pay
Can we also acknowledge that Mackenyu is basically the TOP Dawg of the cast?? He was well known in asia, has a number of films under his belt, and was did a great job doing his own stunts (most of the cast did), which if no one knows, saves a lot resources for the production. And why is no one talking aboug how relatively huge Emily Rudd's paycheck was?? Man, those guys are just picking on the wrong battles.
As I mentioned in the comments of that video, it's very telling when a show with a $225 million budget can't pay their lead actress as much as a main, but non-lead character in a show with a $138 million budget. Especially odd when the latter has better production quality than the former, despite a smaller budget. However, the information that video was based on wound up being fabricated by the people behind Marvel, in an attempt to stir up drama, likely to get more people to watch She-Hulk. The reality is nobody in the One Piece live action made as much as She-Hulk's actress. And the claims that Zoro, the One Piece live action, and Netflix were sexist, actually caused more people to watch the One Piece live action, as somewhat of a "fuck you" to Disney/Marvel.
Mackenyu already had so many live actions and some like Saint Seiya live action involves Hollywood actors. He also did most of his stunt moves without cgi. Of course he will get paid more.
I figured the price gap also involved amount of screen time. You don’t get paid per episode, that’s like I showed up for work one hour and got paid 8 hours time.
Zoro did his own stunts, stunts that included the use of 3 sword, he was in a bunch of other movies/series/shows before this, hes a massive package for any production, theres a very valid reason hes making the most of everyone on set lol. He definitely deserves more than the Shehulk actress. I dont even think his costars would argue that he deserves what he made, and they all went above and beyond to shape themselves for their roles. I dont even think most of the Marvel actors put in half the effort the One Piece actors did to fit into character. Compairing the two roles is pointless because of how different their requirements are.
Re the Kuina thing, Zoro clearly tells her not to listen to whatever traditionalist nonsense her dad told her and use it as an excuse not to try. That's what we're supposed to get out of that scene, so it's the opposite of sexism. The worst thing about this Zoro vs She-Hulk thing is that it will just result in ppl dumping all over Tatiana and the show again even though she didn't say sh*t.
If the complaint is that she was paid less than the MAJOR STAR OPLA grabbed, is she silently saying she was paid the same or more than Luffy and Nami's actors? Nah, looked it up. She was paid less than everyone. EDIT: Oh, I thought some quote was involved with this. If this is just a strawman argument made so that people can whack at it and light it on fire, then shame on everyone. LOL, even the original article doesn't claim sexism, because it wants the plausible deniability that it's on both sides.
why do you keep saying she as if the she-hulk actress is making these arguments? this is just random blog writers trying to generate clicks. no one involved has said any of this.
@@templarknight7Dude, you're saying that like I knew that. 😂 If this is a strawman argument someone made just to whack it, just say so. Either way, I'm talking about the nonsense of the argument.
It literally made the manga more famous. Maybe not sell more, idk, but clearly there are a lot of people who never read ANY manga started to recognize the name. I read One Piece since I was 10, my dad don't even know what it is. Now we watched the series together and he's very interested in the story.
... how? 6:09 It's 2 different companies, if anything yell at Disney and Marvel for underpaying you, that's not Netflix, One Piece, or Zoro's actor's fault. He's also in a very popular franchise that's showing to be very accomplished vs your show that FAAAAILED BECAUSE OF THE COMPANY'S ATTEMPTS TO CIRCUMVENT SEXISM, by making your character a strong generic cliche wamen with female empowerment. That your strong independent woman act didn't work... is that not telling you something? Maybe be a better actress and choose better products to work on? I'm sorry... just can't wrap around how nonsensical this is. Anyone with a brain can read this room. If Netflix wants to pay their actors more, that can't be helped.
The controversy is weird. Of course we want want men and women in the same or equivalent role and position to be paid the same, but I don’t know how you can even compare the roles due to the shows being so radically different other than to generalize. The best I can do is say the positions are similar-ish as they are both main cast, but with roles, She-Hulk is a lesser known super hero and One Piece has been exploding worldwide so you would think roles in live-action One Piece would pay better than She-Hulk in general. The video was all over the place. It would make sense for Zoro’s actor to make more than Luffy’s but that’s not what happened. It looks like he swapped their per episode pay. Then later he was comparing the other actor’s per episode pay to Zoro’s series one pay which makes no sense. I assume that was accidental too. Then he tried to prove his point by saying what if actors compared pay for different positions. I get it but the issue was same position different role so it was kind of week. I guess overall the point he was getting at was it’s a bad comparison so it kind of works but it would have better better, clearer if he picked a similar false comparison. Eh, the video was okay but I don’t think it was my cup of tea.
Women do keep the modeling thing alive buying merch, splooge tributes on pinups aren't exactly as useful as money from clothing and makeup sales which are the things the models are modeling.
I cringed so hard right at the start when I saw it was an ENDYMIONtv video as I knew it was going to go downhill fast... and unsurprisingly it did! dude is definition of someone just after clicks trying to rage bait people.. and he often seem to so allergic to facts you would think he would going to break out in hives if he told the truth. ... was fun to watch you roast him though keep up gods work haha.
Nami doesn't get the watermelons until after the 2 year time skip, I can only imagine it was the food on the small sky island populated by weather wizards...
Much bigger character and likeable actor Vs. Character nobody gave a crap about being in the MCU and a actor that just doesn't seem to cut it... Yeah no, that's definitely sexism, couldn't be anything else
I first thought this controversy was within the OP live action cast; y’know, Emily Ruth complaining about not being paid enough, the other members of the cast complaining about Makenryu being paid more, something of the source.
Damn that guys sucks, literally all his info on cast salaries is incorrect and he based everything off of it AND ADMITS to not knowing OnePiece 😂Love that you also roll your eyes when someone used “woke” unironically. I will say though this argument is brain dead. Comparing shehulk to one piece is wild. They are DIFFERENT studios and productions. That’s like comparing the salary of Vons workers with Trader Joe’s workers. Even within the same industry there are different companies and pay grades. And like you said, people actually watched one series lol
I mean... 1 kind of true, that's how biology works, but also not like you can't make yourself stronger, I've seen plenty of woman looking way stronger than me capable of crushing my head between their thighs like a crab would a grape. 2 Zorro basically says that too lol, like who really cares, it's just selling yourself short if you're not going to go for your dreams despite your flaws, there are other paths to take to get you to your goal. 3 That's in the original source material, what you gonna go complain about Oda in Japan about it? From a manga panel that was what 3 decades ago?... Almost, 1997. Even if it's "out of date" beliefs them being more faithful to the source material is more important.
11:52 I could only think of Juwanna and the one that got arrested in Russia who caused the US government to have to give up an arms dealer to secure her release. Don’t remember the name, but they should of left her in the gulag for being dumb enough to move to Russia.
There is 1 big difference between these shows 1 actually had effort put into their show and the other doesn’t!
It had effort… it had all the effort to act like they didnt put any effort into it
When a show has *SHE* in the title, you have to like it and pay extra to watch it, or you're sexist.
Plus, the She-Hulk writers hated the source material.
Oh the She-Hulk show had effort, but it's the same as the effort you put into squeezing out a turd while you're constipated
Lets not forget one was actually liked
Crazy how a great actor playing a likeable character in a good show that doesn’t crap on the fans gets paid better than an actress playing an insufferable character in a trash show that only knows to call the fans sexist if they don’t like it
and she is being paid by DIsney - Bigeest company in entertainment industry. She should be mad at disney
@@being47 facts
@@being47for some reason they never are
Here's the thing. She-Hulk actually isn't an insufferable character. The many people working on this show, from top to bottom, are insufferable, including the very company that owns her.
She-Hulk is one of (if not) the most popular superheroine in Marvel. Unfortunately, this mega turd of a show has hurt any chance of this ultra sexy superheroine to shine in any capacity.
@@streetman88 true, She Hulk as a character is great, but her series really ruined her public image
She-Hulk will be forgotten while One Piece will be remembered for generations.
Fr I’ll make my future children watch one piece while I rewatch it with them and get them far far away from she-hulk
She hulk will be forgotten while one piece will still be ongoing for generations to come
Hold up to be clear that show and interpretation of she hulk will be forgotten. But all These characters are timeless.
Cause it’ll still be going for generations
A hit anime manga and if netflix don't drop the ball in most seasons .... a hit netflix series
They didnt need CGI for zoro, they didnt need a stunt double for Zoro, they didnt need to pay for sword lessons for him... ya he brought way more to the table, and because of it, it saved the production having to have 5 other people working for his 1 character, unlike she Hulk who probably needed way more then 5 people to create her character.
way more than 5 people she is cgi half of the time
He only needed foldable sword lol
they needed a board of SAGAFRA protestesters to have therapy sessions in the meeting and comeup with brilliance of the twerking scene as it that is.
@@aquilschutte Yeah, they need a foldable sword when they're doing heavy movements like that roll because, believe it or not, they don't want the actor to accidentally pierce himself with a FUCKING sword. unlike the action scenes where they use real swords because they focus on sword fights.
@@ghazi5841 wood swords wont bend and wont pierce
I love the fact that She-Hulk made the comics less popular, but One Piece is helping grow the fanbase and potentially popularizing the manga/anime even more.
absolutly. My younger sibling and I have been watching One Piece for a while, but our mom couldn't stand watching the art style for very long. Once the live-action came out, she was all over it. It is a way for our whole family to know the characters and story which wasn't possible before.
We all love Marvel movies, but we didn't even consider watching She-hulk
Honestly, i'm not even sure if it's a good thing.
When things go mainstream, it will go either ways :
- it will become souless
- it will help expend the universe
We can only hope it doesn't end up like Star Wars (who is souless and irrelevant).
I feel bad for the og She-Hulk comic fans.😢
She-Hulk was pretty popular in the 90s
Just hating because Zoro pulls the green hair off much better(and is a real actor, unlike She-Hulk, who is CGI and voiced over)
*slow clap* Well done.
Yeah it’s not “being sexist” it’s called being actually a GOOD show (something Disney wouldn’t know if it kicked them in the balls)
Mmmm... the Mandalorian is pretty heckin' good. And The Clone Wars season 7 and The Bad Batch is good too.
^Everything else sucks 😭
@@pikachuattack542Mandalorian got worse after season 2 but Ye Clone wars and The bad Batch are freakin goated.
Not really ashoke does miss the mark on certain thi gs but its my fav other than andor and mando season 2
Well, they did make Gravity Falls, Stars vs the Forces of Evil, and Owl House. All three of those shows were bangers, and the main character of Owl House was in a wholesome lesbian relationship. Wonder what changed for Disney to fall so low 🙁.
They aren't comparing Zoro to Nami, they are comparing Zoro to She-Hulk from another show.... which is apples and oranges.
Well one has green hair and the the other one green skin
They are not so different 😬🤣
@@ryudarkness4564 🤣 but She-Hulk has green hair too heheh
Apples and tangerines but you know
Also from completely different companies
trees to grass
Didn't he just say that Zoro's actor is doing his own stunts? I mean he's saving the production movie for not hiring a stunt double
mackenyu's a film swordsman since his youth, i believe. mf was also the main antagonist (the one with the orange shiz for shirt) for the Rorouni kenshi LA. they were glorious in the last fight
Yeah, same goes for Sanji's actor, he's been training to do his own stunts, granted he doesn't have as long of an experience as zoro's one but still
They always have stunt doubles on standby. Just in case the actors get hurt/sick/unable to do a stunt. They don't save money by doing that, but it saves a lot of time with not having to edit the scenes. Actors that do their own stunt don't get paid a lot more. Actors that do this want to because it makes them more desirable and makes their acting look better. Jackie Chan talk about this a while back.
Long story short, She-hulk got payed less because she acted in a bad show, Zoro's got paid more because he knows what he's doing and acted in a show where ODA HIMSELF was calling the shots.
Also the show is good.
She just bad at math 😂
I would’ve laughed so hard if the actress playing Nami had made more money, like significantly more money than any of her fellow cast members. That just would’ve been so on brand.
Most likely. Because she actually has most instagram followers than any of them
She was the only actor of the main cast I was already familiar with since she was in fear street.
@@Regent192i think they might be referring to the fact that the character of Nami is the money grubbing one, not the actress.
I want to know if Nami made more then Shehulk. That would be funny af.
Edit: video already answered how much everyone makes.
Honestly, it sounds like a studio difference or She-Hulk's agent just made a bad deal, rather anyone being sexist.
As a male stripper, I appreciate your bravery in speaking up on our behalf.
It's like these people don't bother to look up who the actor is instead just look at the numbers Mackenyu is a famous overseas actor whose professionally trained to do all stunts. Of course he'd be paid more then a no named actor who needs cgi to do all her work.
to be fair, the "actor who needs cgi to do all her work" is more famous and has a better resume than Mackenyu does.
@@templarknight7 Pends where cause bet you could ask who she is in Japan and get the same number of tilts if you asked who Mackenyu was in America. One piece is a Japanese brand first and foremost so having a big named Japanese actor is going to be viewed differently in their eyes then in America
NUX: LET'S GO!!! He knows! He knows!
Buggy: ...he...NOSE!!!!!!
Buggy: Are you making fun of my nose!!!!!!
God the male strippers rant got me 😂
Is he referencing Velma?
Me too wanna show a friend
@@Jlopezocasio Velma mentally broke him
I missed a word and thought the male strippers got you.
You know it's sad when someone makes the same joke as a "professional script writer" yet made it 100 times better
Going after one piece is the worst mistake someone can make.
You are very right, lots and lots of pirates have died trying to find Roger's treasure.
I doubt that'll change Luffy's mind
because it doesn't exist.
So you are saying there should be no conflict or adventure huh?
@@Marta1Buck one piece exists
I can't even comprehend how Zoro's backstory could be frowned upon like that. I mean they live in a society, their island in this case, that "indoctrinated" all the kids to believe women will grow weaker than women eventually and Kuina does believe it. How could anybody say that Zoro, telling her that the gender shizzle doesnt matter for that, is nothing more than the absolute WoKe gigachad?!
this is actually based and true
Physically-speaking they're half-correct, women (in the real world at least) physically do not gain as much muscle mass as men, due to having less natural testosterone which aids in the natural development of muscle mass (this is exactly why we have separate men and women's sports).
Although the reason I say they're only half-correct is because in the case of the One Piece universe, real life human anatomy doesn't really apply since monstrous powerhouses like Big Mom, Ulti and Yamato exist. So yeah, Zoro's village kinda is lying (or at the very least ignorant) in the greater context of the One Piece universe's two central pillars of power scaling (Haki and Devil Fruit powers).
Based woke zoro
@@twilighttiger2368 While that maybe true, in the context of swordfighting first there are attributes in which women may more excel. Agility, swiftness and technique in general play also a huge role.
Aiming for true gender equality is much more based than woke.
Zoro's actor also did all of his stunts, which I could see being a reason he got paid more, he did more work than the others
so did sanjis actor he learned kickboxing and cooking just play they part
Sanji's actor did his own stunts too.
@@kyletucker3811 true but he was in fewer episodes, for season 2 his pay might increase
@@Kakachi07 true
Mackenyu is arguably the only person who has the skill set to play as Zoro, and it's not even just about acting. Plus he also does his own stunt. The pay is well deserved.
It's simple One Piece stayed true to the source material and She Hulk tried really hard to change everything about the characters that fans loved.
There is no sexism here. I mean they even made Nami more badass in the life action ONE PIECE
There are any number of answers to why the Zorro actor got paid more than the She Hulk actress.
1: He's got more talent than she does.
2: Fight Choreography takes more time and effort than Twerking for a few seconds.
3: He had a better contract
4. He does his own stunt.
My eyebrow reached Mars when he claimed that Zoro's actor was payed more money that Luffies
Most of what he said was irrelevant. Different studio, different pay. A gender paygap doesn't exist when the studios that paid them are different. Let's also not forget that She-Hulk was mostly CGI and voice work doesn't net quite as much as physical acting. This argument is like being pissed that workers at two different fast food restaurants don't make the same.
That is what he was saying in the video, that the claim they made was nonsense, that' what the video was about. The "different studio" argument was among the first I made as well on this topic, different companies pay differently, plus he also was for the most part also the stuntman of the character, there should have been even more in for him...
@marcbraun5342 I don't think you read my comment correctly... Nux was correct when he said the guy heavily padded his video with information irrelevant to the subject to hit the 10 minute mark for monetization. The only relevant information is that One Piece and She-Hulk came out of different studios and that the people complaining about a gender paygap in this situation are stupid for trying to compare the pay of actors who worked for different companies.
@@HeatherMason2003 Not entirely as it appears, I thought you meant what he said about the topic, but you meant the whole video. I this case I actually agree with you. That is, more than before, since my original comment was a lot in agreement with yours to begin with.
There's actually a point to this. The videos on this channel are framed more as episodes of an ongoing series with a lot of interconnection and not every topic in the video is mentioned in the title. So this is more of a case of another one of these stories mentioned as onyl beeing (that) annoyed of this one story, that is, as we all immediatelly noticed, as the guy in the video already, that it's also easily debunked from a lot of angles.
Even then Nux wasn't correct about the padding before, since he thought it will be about something else and said listing of Mackenyu's credentials is irrelevant, which it wasn't about the actual topic of the video, not the line in the show he was expecting.
And they’re not both selling chicken. One sells chicken as it’s staple, while the other is a burger chain.
I was really worried the live action one piece would take out the part of the girl admitting that one day she'll be weaker than men. It was honestly such a touching moment for me personally, as someone who experienced that first hand in my own karate experience. I was really strong and tough at first...until all the boys surpassed me. Then i just felt like something was wrong with me. Definitely a far more toxic mindset than simply understanding and accepting that the truth is the truth, and that men in the end are simply stronger physically. But that doesn't make women "weak" either. We simply have different strengths.
Wait a minute... did anyone else catch how the ACTUAL amounts both Mackenyu and Tatyana made in their respective shows means that Tatyana actually made more than double for playing She-Hulk what Mackenyu made for playing Zoro?
yeah if zoro got 220000 total as opposed to per episode she made more, nux didnt catch that.
@@NTTofMistery I looked into it more, and either Mackenyu and Emily Rudd made just over 200k each for the season or per episode. So either Maslany made more than both of them combined, or she just got paid less by Disney than the cast of One Piece did by Netflix.
@@lorddjgoliath1809if that’s the case why would she be upset about one piece live action pay wages particularly Zorro being paid more, if in total sum she’d made more then almost the entire cast ? It doesn’t make any sense. Unless someone being disingenuous with their intel.🤔
@@lorddjgoliath1809and I’m not saying it’s you being disingenuous. It’s Just something is not adding up because All this drama is untruthful and unnecessary BS.
@@akeemweaverwebster2762they're not saying you're accusing them of being disingenuous, they're saying that the She-Hulk actress is being disingenuous
The she-hulk actress didn't have to perform her own choreographed fight sequences.
AUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHHHHHHH describes She-Hulk in its entirety
The funny part is that Zoro's backstory actually proves that he's the opposite of sexist 😂 Kuina thinks she'll be weaker because she's a girl and Zoro got angry and calls it bullshxt. If those people 'have' to point a finger at the sexist one in the backstory, it would be kuina 😂😂😂
I watch One Piece live action, and they did end up changing a lot, but they also got the characters right and even their backstories factually correct to the manga. And I found it to be quite enjoyable. I watched one episode of She-Hulk and they were twerking at the end of the episode??? Dropped it real quick.
Sadly, the only semi-decent She-Hulk episode is the one with Daredevil. And even then, that's for only 2/3rds of the episode because Murdock bows out after 20 minutes.
Yeah, I’ve noticed this trend with Endymion. Even in the process of making a point I agree with, he will try to make that point with incredibly surface level arguments/comparisons that even I, as someone who agrees with him, can’t help but point out the flaws in. It won’t convince anyone who doesn’t already agree with him
Uh oh, somebody’s jealous that another show portrays strong female characters better than they do.🤭
He gave Zoro's pay as a total at 1.7 mil. Right or wrong I have no idea but he was actually saying the other actors as a total not per episode rate... so Mikenu did make the most by a big margin.
Lol, the math does check out though. $220,000.00 times 8 episodes equals $1.7 mil
Not to sound like I'm picking a fight of any sort with Endymion--I'm really not--but I've noticed in the last couple weeks how many of his videos are "WOKE this" or "WOKE that," how roundabout he is in getting to the main point of his topics, how many attempts he makes at analogy come off as strawman arguments, and, as we see and hear in this video alone, he gets things wrong such as how much one actor is getting paid compared to others. I've seen and argued with worse even on gamefaqs boards in the past, but I don't exactly hold Endymion's views to the highest degree because of how much they're reminding me of those certain political talking points that can be picked apart with minimal research. Again, nothing against Endymion himself or what he chooses to talk about, but his approach to these topics needs work.
Something made with absolute passion and given the time to be made vs yet another fast food happy meal in the cinematic machine. There’s zero comparison.
I never thought a Velma reference would make me laugh
I love when shows cast directors or producers go HOW dare another show not be as crappy as our show .
I just love how Nux makes fun of basically everyone regardless of politics without being pretentious. 😂😂😂 Common Nux W.
Nux call out stupidity no matter the politics 🗿
I've been seeing this video popping up on my suggestions, and haven't wanted to click on it due to the clickbaity title and wording. I'm glad I didn't, but glad to give Nuxanor my view and like, because he was spot on, and the original vid went about how I thought it was gonna go. Great video, Nux, keep up the good work, sir.
The best part of One Piece being so popular is that the actors will probably make 10x the amount for season 2, plus all the other opportunities they'll get. I watched half an episode of She Hulk and couldn't anymore. The people who made that show have no room to speak.
13:00 I've also noticed a decline of her on R34... ahem I MEAN ALSO COMIC BOOKS, yeah I already knew that, totally 100%
I know she hulk ain’t talkin!😂
I’m confused, Zoro didn’t make $220,000 per episode he made $220,000 total. Meaning the actress that played she hulk actually made more money then him at a total of $450,000. In fact she made over 2x what he made.
You are confused because he made $220,000 per episode which he made $1,760,000 for all season only got 50,000 per episode which she only made $ 400,000 for whole season 😂
The numbers are just random from a shitty site (showbiz galore) not actually legit source.
0:10 "This is way too long of a title."
So a standard length anime title?
Definitely an overblown “drama” if you can even call it that. I honestly believe this is another case of “woke” bad without any actual depth added to the table.
I think the context is One Piece is way more successful than She Hulk, so the common strategy is to "cancel" the competition because the message must prevail no matter the cost.
@@garuelx8627 also kind of dumb because the One Piece cast is already very diverse.
@@electroninja7419 it seems like they are only happy if people indulge in their shitty products and attack others for anything if they don't get their way, which they constantly inflate the value of...
never knew anything about one piece. and to be honest i was hoping this series fail like every other live actions, but gonna be honest, its pretty good. the best part of the series are the olders actors, zeff, mihawk, grandpa and zoro its just the gigachad of the series... i want a 2th,3er,4th season... the best fight scenes are from zoro, Zoro fight scenes are fluid and wideshot, you can see all scene...
And I can confirm that One Piece LA introduced more fans because everyone I know who wasn't a fan before now is steamrolling through the manga/anime
Ah yes… let’s compare 2 actors from different shows and companies and point out how the man gets paid way more on a show that is actually good. The level of stupidity is reaching other planes of existence.
Nuxanor, you are wrong in this case about Mackenyu only making $220,000 in total for his work on One Piece. I looked into it a bit more and as a matter of fact he was getting paid $220K *per* episode. Nami was getting paid $200K and Inaki Goday (Loofy) was getting $320K per as well, this was for 8 months work. As for Tatiana McSlany, she was paid $50K per episode for 4 we.eks work. Not really much of a comparison when you look deeper and you compare the actors and the work needed now is there?
edit - mixed up nami and zoro pay
Small typo, nami was paid 200k not 200.
@@lalordpheonix106 whoops, i'll fix that.
Not going to lie. The nux with the commentary was the on way I could get through this.
Can we also acknowledge that Mackenyu is basically the TOP Dawg of the cast??
He was well known in asia, has a number of films under his belt, and was did a great job doing his own stunts (most of the cast did), which if no one knows, saves a lot resources for the production.
And why is no one talking aboug how relatively huge Emily Rudd's paycheck was??
Man, those guys are just picking on the wrong battles.
6:42 Classic Fred- i mean Nux!😂
As I mentioned in the comments of that video, it's very telling when a show with a $225 million budget can't pay their lead actress as much as a main, but non-lead character in a show with a $138 million budget. Especially odd when the latter has better production quality than the former, despite a smaller budget.
However, the information that video was based on wound up being fabricated by the people behind Marvel, in an attempt to stir up drama, likely to get more people to watch She-Hulk. The reality is nobody in the One Piece live action made as much as She-Hulk's actress. And the claims that Zoro, the One Piece live action, and Netflix were sexist, actually caused more people to watch the One Piece live action, as somewhat of a "fuck you" to Disney/Marvel.
9:26 what you talking bout nux zoros alwase missing he off getting lost 😂😂😂
great roasting great work Nux 😎
Damn this guy managed to be wrong about almost every point he brings up. Impressive.
Nux Taku!!!!!!!!!!! I've missed you man😭😭 one of my first ever anime TH-cam channels😢❤...
An actor that's in the longest and one of the best anime got paid more than the actor from the dumpster fire She Hulk? No! Really?!
Mackenyu already had so many live actions and some like Saint Seiya live action involves Hollywood actors. He also did most of his stunt moves without cgi. Of course he will get paid more.
I figured the price gap also involved amount of screen time. You don’t get paid per episode, that’s like I showed up for work one hour and got paid 8 hours time.
I wanted to watch this, but I automatically tune out anyone who starts whining about "WokEneSs." Even as I joke, it's just grating on the ears.
Zoro did his own stunts, stunts that included the use of 3 sword, he was in a bunch of other movies/series/shows before this, hes a massive package for any production, theres a very valid reason hes making the most of everyone on set lol. He definitely deserves more than the Shehulk actress. I dont even think his costars would argue that he deserves what he made, and they all went above and beyond to shape themselves for their roles. I dont even think most of the Marvel actors put in half the effort the One Piece actors did to fit into character. Compairing the two roles is pointless because of how different their requirements are.
One show people want to watch, while the other, is She-Hulk. One actor is someone people like, while the other, played She-Hulk.
One piece odyssey looks SO unbelievably fun but of course it’s on literally EVERYTHING but switch (which is freaking typical) 😔😒
this is a great video to watch with the sound off!
Wake me up when the cgi deer gets paid more than the actresses controversy happens for both One Piece season 2 and Bambi Live Action
Re the Kuina thing, Zoro clearly tells her not to listen to whatever traditionalist nonsense her dad told her and use it as an excuse not to try. That's what we're supposed to get out of that scene, so it's the opposite of sexism.
The worst thing about this Zoro vs She-Hulk thing is that it will just result in ppl dumping all over Tatiana and the show again even though she didn't say sh*t.
Nami did deserve more pay for her hat sea that was actually really great acting
If the complaint is that she was paid less than the MAJOR STAR OPLA grabbed, is she silently saying she was paid the same or more than Luffy and Nami's actors? Nah, looked it up. She was paid less than everyone.
EDIT: Oh, I thought some quote was involved with this. If this is just a strawman argument made so that people can whack at it and light it on fire, then shame on everyone. LOL, even the original article doesn't claim sexism, because it wants the plausible deniability that it's on both sides.
why do you keep saying she as if the she-hulk actress is making these arguments? this is just random blog writers trying to generate clicks. no one involved has said any of this.
@@templarknight7Dude, you're saying that like I knew that. 😂 If this is a strawman argument someone made just to whack it, just say so. Either way, I'm talking about the nonsense of the argument.
"A woman can never beat a man"
*sanji exists*
They need to up his pay by *exactly* how much she got paid.
It literally made the manga more famous. Maybe not sell more, idk, but clearly there are a lot of people who never read ANY manga started to recognize the name.
I read One Piece since I was 10, my dad don't even know what it is. Now we watched the series together and he's very interested in the story.
As a male stripper, I'm very happy somebody finally takes our side. Thank you Nux
BIG NEWS: Angry green woman throws a fit for not being paid more than handsome green haired swords dude
I didn't even know what was she-hulk
Meanwhile one piece..... I still remember episode 1 lol
Aight, when will the actual endymian collab will happen?
It would be legendary to see you two interact
... how? 6:09 It's 2 different companies, if anything yell at Disney and Marvel for underpaying you, that's not Netflix, One Piece, or Zoro's actor's fault. He's also in a very popular franchise that's showing to be very accomplished vs your show that FAAAAILED BECAUSE OF THE COMPANY'S ATTEMPTS TO CIRCUMVENT SEXISM, by making your character a strong generic cliche wamen with female empowerment. That your strong independent woman act didn't work... is that not telling you something? Maybe be a better actress and choose better products to work on?
I'm sorry... just can't wrap around how nonsensical this is. Anyone with a brain can read this room. If Netflix wants to pay their actors more, that can't be helped.
I haven't listened to someone arguing with themselves so hard since the last time I had to do it lol
The controversy is weird. Of course we want want men and women in the same or equivalent role and position to be paid the same, but I don’t know how you can even compare the roles due to the shows being so radically different other than to generalize. The best I can do is say the positions are similar-ish as they are both main cast, but with roles, She-Hulk is a lesser known super hero and One Piece has been exploding worldwide so you would think roles in live-action One Piece would pay better than She-Hulk in general.
The video was all over the place. It would make sense for Zoro’s actor to make more than Luffy’s but that’s not what happened. It looks like he swapped their per episode pay. Then later he was comparing the other actor’s per episode pay to Zoro’s series one pay which makes no sense. I assume that was accidental too. Then he tried to prove his point by saying what if actors compared pay for different positions. I get it but the issue was same position different role so it was kind of week. I guess overall the point he was getting at was it’s a bad comparison so it kind of works but it would have better better, clearer if he picked a similar false comparison.
Eh, the video was okay but I don’t think it was my cup of tea.
Oh my god... Franky in the live action One Piece... Discuss. XD
Women do keep the modeling thing alive buying merch, splooge tributes on pinups aren't exactly as useful as money from clothing and makeup sales which are the things the models are modeling.
I cringed so hard right at the start when I saw it was an ENDYMIONtv video as I knew it was going to go downhill fast... and unsurprisingly it did! dude is definition of someone just after clicks trying to rage bait people.. and he often seem to so allergic to facts you would think he would going to break out in hives if he told the truth.
... was fun to watch you roast him though keep up gods work haha.
Bro really took out the Velma show's Jones's logic about pay gap...
Great vid bro.😺
Nami doesn't get the watermelons until after the 2 year time skip, I can only imagine it was the food on the small sky island populated by weather wizards...
This drama is dumb why compare a Disney show to a Netflix show and call out Netflix on it? Why not call out Disney on it?
Luffy streching his arms like popeye would be more acurate then mr fantastic
Much bigger character and likeable actor
Vs.
Character nobody gave a crap about being in the MCU and a actor that just doesn't seem to cut it...
Yeah no, that's definitely sexism, couldn't be anything else
Aaand I just got further in and I see that this guy is ass-pulling numbers.
I first thought this controversy was within the OP live action cast; y’know, Emily Ruth complaining about not being paid enough, the other members of the cast complaining about Makenryu being paid more, something of the source.
When the man builds a strawman and is bad at math at the same time.
did Nux channel his inner Charlie at the end there? 😂
Damn that guys sucks, literally all his info on cast salaries is incorrect and he based everything off of it AND ADMITS to not knowing OnePiece 😂Love that you also roll your eyes when someone used “woke” unironically.
I will say though this argument is brain dead. Comparing shehulk to one piece is wild. They are DIFFERENT studios and productions. That’s like comparing the salary of Vons workers with Trader Joe’s workers. Even within the same industry there are different companies and pay grades.
And like you said, people actually watched one series lol
I mean... 1 kind of true, that's how biology works, but also not like you can't make yourself stronger, I've seen plenty of woman looking way stronger than me capable of crushing my head between their thighs like a crab would a grape. 2 Zorro basically says that too lol, like who really cares, it's just selling yourself short if you're not going to go for your dreams despite your flaws, there are other paths to take to get you to your goal. 3 That's in the original source material, what you gonna go complain about Oda in Japan about it? From a manga panel that was what 3 decades ago?... Almost, 1997. Even if it's "out of date" beliefs them being more faithful to the source material is more important.
Discussing their pay like they're bounties lol
11:52 I could only think of Juwanna and the one that got arrested in Russia who caused the US government to have to give up an arms dealer to secure her release. Don’t remember the name, but they should of left her in the gulag for being dumb enough to move to Russia.
I don't get it. First Dream and now Zoro. How are they hear throbs exactly? I don't see it!
Live Action Zoro isn't as... he doesn't make as many funny mistakes as I would like tbh.
Zoro got lost, traveled to our dimension and decided to play himself