RetroTink 5X Review - PS2 HD Games & More Consoles! - Adam Koralik
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- It's Adam Koralik here and today we're checking out the RetroTink 5X by Mike Chi. It takes RGB based component signals and converts them to HDMI. It also supports composite and S-Video, and even SCART as well. Mike actually designed this as the ultimate PlayStation 2 enhancer, in addition to all the other consoles it can support.
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There are three scart types that should be addressed in the description so that some players aren't disappointed.
1. A scart adaptor - this is not scart - It is simply AV cables in an RCA to scart connection adaptor.
2. A regular scart lead. This is the same as above but with an actual (7 pin) scart connection. Quality wise, it's still just an AV cable.
3. RGB Scart - this is the true high quality scart. Usually 21 pin.
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People trying to keep the framemeister expensive on ebay are sad.
It’s probably up to 20 grand by now
It'll go down once the general public starts getting their hands on this. The framemeister was kind of ahead of its time but it is getting antiquated now.
You can still get them from Solaris Japan? A bit more expensive than when I got mine in 2016 but when they are still available no need to go to the scalpers.
No reason to buy that junk, especially when it adds a lot of input lag. This is much better.
But Adam, if the yellow cable is a long story we have time. So we went from an omelet with rotten eggs, to pancakes with urine, cooking with Adam.
Adam is the type of guy who puts a ruler under his pillow to see how long he slept.
Seems....legit.
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
I got my 5X up and running today and it's great. A bit on the pricey side but you definitely get what you pay for, and it delivers.
Nice! This is what I was waiting for. An all around solid all-in-one upscaler
Glad you uploaded a review of this, it's been a while since youtube recommended me one of your vids even though I've been subbed for YEARS lol
Yeah, it does that.
I love the niche retro gaming videos. I've commented on your channel a few times before, and you always reply to help out. Whenever I'm looking for specific information about my old consoles, you always conveniently have a video that addresses it.
Thanks again.
My pleasure.
And here I am two weeks out from publishing my first video on the OG RetroTink2X. Great video!
I love the video. We are definitely going to need some follow ups. I would love to see a comparison between the 5x on the PS2 vs a launch PS3. I also want to see how it upscales consoles like the Wii. Thank you so much for this video.
Thanks for explaining in a simple way! You gave a good explanation on the evolution from the first Retrotink device to the 5x. I have a 2x pro and was debating whether to upgrade to a 5x.
I’m dead!!! URINE? And Adams pause right after. Hilarious!
Adam's face when someone asks why it looks bad on their 📺 👺 jajajajaja
1st mothers day without your mom. I hope all is well Adam. Keep up the great work.
Just bought mine through your link man, can't wait for my ps2 to look amazing
Amazing? No. Less bad. It's still the PS2.
@@AdamKoralik I had some ps2 to hdmi converter with the m cable and it looked like composite, then I got some component cables with a 20$ converter to hdmi and now it's playable but I'm still not satisfied lol. I remember it looking so much better with just components on an older and smaller flat-screen before. Thanks for the response by the way 👍
i’m glad this thing exists i’m sure overtime with firmware updates it’s only gona get better
I recently got HD RetroVision cables for my Model 2 Genesis, and even straight into my TV, it such such a ridiculous improvement over RF! I have a decent retro collection, but I'm not too serious with it (mostly because I currently don't have any room to expand). In the future, I'd love to pick up this RetroTink with more HD RetroVision cables.
Thanks for the informative video. I have a sega saturn so maybe i’ll get one. Your videos are so entertaining man, thanks for doing your thing.
Good to see this just keeps getting better and better. And it's great that the Sega Saturn finally has something that can handle its resolution changes better than anything we have to date. Too bad he didn't use USB-C on the cable connection though.
Also, I like PANCAKES with milk not urine. So, USE THE BEST POSSIBLE CABLES FOR THE CONSOLE PEOPLE!
Oh yeah. Great work, as always Adam!
1) Dope shirt.
2) Shout-out for the pancake reference.
3) I've been extensively researching the best way to connect my PS2 (and other consoles) with my LG CX tv. It's between this or buying a backwards compatible PS3. Great stuff man! I didn't know this was out. I've seen the reviews on the other Retrotinks. Major shout-out to Mike. PS those HD RV cables are tough to come across!
That food analogy was so freaking stupid, I love it.
I've been waiting for this!
I've always came across multiple different versions made only for one console so i never bothered getting any of them.
If I meet Adam K and he asks me if I want a omelette or pancakes I'll just decline
Great review...Thanks Adam!
This is exactly what I needed like 4 months ago lol since then I just went out and picked up a CRT glad people have a proper solution though
Also love u Adam you beautiful bearded man
Cant go wrong with a working CRT
I was gonna buy a CRT but the good quality ones are $500 and above, so I rather just get this lol
@@Oni64 , sure, if you want back problems and also potentially end up getting squished for lugging around a 46" screen monster, that is, IF you can move it around, anyway.
@@paxhumana2015 Yea its a pain. always good to have help when carrying anything 32 inch and over.
Would love to see how good _Gran Turismo 4_ looks with this device.
I can't wait for mine 5X. Thanks for showing how it works with PS2 (I bought it just for PS2).
I bought the multi format just for PS2 right before this came out I'm very happy with it and it's cheaper than this device
Of course, I bought an OSSC a couple of weeks ago and new stuff starts dropping. Love the OSSC with the HD Retrovision cables though. Haven't had a solution to play my old consoles on our new TV in awhile.
Adam, quick question, have you ever tried using RGB SCART instead of component on the PS2? I always found RGB to produce a much more colourful and cleaner picture than component. You can even get 480p and 1080i to work with RGB SCART, albeit using sync on green. One neat trick I found is that you can send both YPbPr and RGB over SCART with the PS2, so you don't even need to swap cables. The OSSC accepts sync on green and YPbPr through its SCART port, how about the RetroTINK 5X?
Recently got the pound cable for my PS one and Kaico hdmi cable for my Dreamcast. Very pleased with the picture quality they deliver.
Hey Adam, great video as always! I currently don’t have the HD retrovison cables. I will get them. In the mean time what is my best option? OEM ps2 component cable or OEM SCART cable? I have PS2 slim , Retrotink 5X and MClassic currently. ( I also have the M cable but have not used it yet for this set up). Also my tv is a 4k OLED. Advice please. All the best -smarfie!
Don't put piss in your pancake mix . It's that simple. I nearly choked on my pancake. The irony. Haaaaaaa
Love HD Retrovision cables. I only have one Mike Chi device and that's the component to rgb converter which allows me to play with component cables on my PVM. I guess I could have bought individual cables but this is nice. The RetroTink 5x is going to really disrupt the converter market. Assuming he can keep up with demand.
I picked up one of these with a dreamcast scart cable (retro access) included for $20 at a local store over the weekend.
Definitely one of the buys of all time.
Love this guy. Just a good dude
Very interesting video. The HD RetroVision PS2 cables itself without RetroTink does an excellent job. Is it perfect ? No. I have noticed minor frame rate variation with Resident Evil 1-2 and also that 1 second black screen during loading time. Other than that it looks great. So if you are low on budget just get yourself the cable, you won't regret it. I am not saying RetroTink 5x is a bad product, I just think it's very expensive versus what I get in return.
In your opinion, if I wanted to only use ps2 with component cables, would you say the Retrotink M be best or paying the more expensive 5x? Thanks!
Also, things like the eon super 64, would you recommend that over purchasing a retrotink. There are a few different options for n64, gamecube, Dreamcast, and even Xbox that I’ve seen you cover. Are those technically a better alternative to the Retrotink? Thanks again!
It's not really an all in one solution. Due to how wide the retro pool is, you kind of need the right pieces to go with it.
Awesome video man! 2 questions if that's alright.
I'm planning to get the 5X for my PS1 and PS2.
I ordered a Monster PS2/PS3 component cable, will this work well with the Retro Tink 5x? Or Should I get the HD Retrovision Cables?
Also, I have a working CECHA-01 PS3, will the 5X give better video on PS2 games, compared to my PS3?
I'm also planning to get an MClassic.
Monster cables will work.
I'd use the PS3 with the mClassic.
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Thanks!
Hey Adam, I'm using a Pal Megadrive with an RGB scary with the retrotink 5x and noticed my footage is a lot more pixelated than your streets of rage footage. Would you mind sharing your settings?
Hey Adam, had any luck with Sega Master System or Power Base Converter on the RetroTINK 5X? The product description warns about compatibility issues with that system.
No? But I didn't test that extensively to be honest.
I just want to make sure I’m getting this straight before I consider buying this. So for the ps2 all I have to do with the 5x is to set the ps2 in component mode after everything is hooked up via component cables? Do I need to switch between RGB and component modes on the ps2 depending on the game or can I just leave it in component mode? If I leave it in component mode will the 5x “do it’s magic” for games that don’t support 480p but then when I do play a game that is 480p compatible then it’ll just work? I know some games I need to hold down a certain button on the controller to get the 480p mode.
Edit: I guess an easier way to ask is you when you hook up the 5x via component cables then all you have to do is set the ps2 to component mode for all ps2 games that are 480i and then games that are 480p compatible will also work?
Since this new version supports 1440p which is mostly used in pc monitors, the colorspace option makes sense. Most devices run on RGB limited and most TVs are made to run on that mode, recognizing 16 as black and 235 as white, but when you connect to many PC monitors, the image will be washed out since it is expecting for 0 to be black and 255 to be white. Many recent TVs already recognize the modes automatically and besides that, it doesnt offer any color depth advantages even though RGB full is supposed to be a bit better technically than Limited, in practice it is only meant to display correctly on different displays.
I love the food analogy you do. This one had me dieing with laughter it was hilarious. If that doesn't make people understand that the right cables I don't know what will. Great video I loved it. Been looking forward to the product and your video.
I got mine in the mail today. I love this! So easy to use, great options. I had the retrotink scart 2x, then moved to the OSSC. Once I got this, I'll never go back. Picture looks incredible on saturn and ps1 so far. Threw my OSSC out the window.
Will official component cables for the PS2/PS3 work without also having to buy the Retrovision cables for the 5x since unless told games will default to 480i?
Yeah, the HD Retrovision ones are just better.
So Adam, keep my RGB Scart cables for my Genesis 2 or get the HD Retrovision components? Getting rid of my framemeister. And do I use the mCable for ultimate hookup? And if so which one? Heard they have different ones.
All a matter of personal preference to be honest.
April fools video idea "Cooking With Adam" staring Rotten eggs, Urine and Pickles, all your favorites 🤣 great video dude as always.
I'm curious to see how the internal PS2 HDMI mod would turn out.
Considering buying a ps3 cecha01 but worried about reliability wondering if it’s all that much better then a setup like this for a modern display? I know of a older video regarding ps2 and how to get the most from its picture quality and ps3 Cecha01 was your recommendation just wondering if that has changed? Thanks!
Hey Adam! Awesome video! Have you tried this device with modern 4K TV? By example, My 2016 Samsung 4K is no compatible with 480p / 720p and wondering if 1080p mode will work for PS2 games. Thanks!
Of course, that's kind of the whole point.
Aside from destroying the signal as you mentioned, cheap converters often introduce an unacceptable amount of input lag. I don't know if you have any way to test, but does the 5X seem to introduce any?
Nah, it's solid.
Great breakdown Good criticism overall good
At the moment I have enough with my Framemeister and Mclassic, but honestly this retrotink attracts me. Let's see if anything new is known about the next OSSC to compare products.
This may just be the device I've been waiting for.
OSSC Pro I feel is going to be the end all / be all, but at a significantly higher price. This Retrotink 5X however, while still expensive, is the target of the casual gamer / streamer due to the ease of use, instant resolution handling, and compatibility and will leave people satisfied without the tweaking that the OSSC Pro provides.
But I also want to plug the PixelFX Morph, with its HDMI input. It's definitely something to be excited for as well.
@@alucard971 is PixelFx Morph where you take it to someone or a shop, and they open the console, like an N64, and solder it?
@@tonyrd43 No. PixelFX Morph is another scaler coming from PixelFX. www.pixelfx.co/content/morph_roadmap.html
@@alucard971 how do I buy it? I don't see any way to buy it?
@10:29 Depends on what program you're using for capture too. With Elgato there are three stages of full vs limited output in OBS. One in configure video under properties, second is in properties, third is in video output. Also with OBS, the colour space of your output folder can really mess with video players like VLC and Windows Media Player, as well as video editing software. I444 in OBS crushes everything to hell in Premiere Pro for instance. Have you tried REcentral 4? it's simple compared to OBS, but it doesn't matter much if you're editing in post anyway.
Edit: just to add, if you have problems with REcentral stretching to 16:9, you just need to use this formula in reference to scale width to get it corrected:
(original res)/(16:9)
so if 4:3 got stretched to 16:9 for example:
(4/3)/(16/9)=0.75 = 75% scale width
for 3:2:
(3/2)/(16/9)= 0.84375 = 84.4%
352x240(Saturn):
(356/240)/(16/9) = 0.825 = 82.5%(although 4:3 is more correct)
Bruh. I have the 2x and LOVE IT....whoooaa this thing looks cooool!!!!
Thanks for showing some Saturn footage! Hard to tell in the video, but does the 5x look better than the scart 2x, specifically with the Saturn?
Yes, it does. As I said, problem is capturing this stuff kind of eliminated the subtleties.
Looking better boils down to....preference. I'd say yes, but I miss the smoothing, however that's compensated by the mClassic.
Hey Adam, question. Would you rather use hd retrovision component cables or Rgb Scart packapunch pro cables via retrotink 5x pro? Or does it matter?
On what system, the PS2?
The 5x-4k is coming soon Im happy I waited & upgraded to an OLED first
Hello Adam I have a question about rgb bnc cable's, I have a crt with component input and don't want to spend 50 bucks on a scart to component converter, so I was wondering if I could use those individual bnc female to RCA male converters for red green and blue but what would I do with the black sync?
This is quite interesting to see a device nearly surpassing the Framemeister in almost every way. Which is good news considering the newer tech and cost of a Framemeister nowadays. This feels like the up scaler I've been waiting to come out!
Only problem is you can’t buy one and guys will try to resell them for $800-&1000
@@charlieb308 Which is why you wait and don't buy from resellers who think they can get away with this price gouging. Buying from them only encourages them to keep reselling things at higher prices.
@@DarkMarron67 it will be around 3 years before we can buy one or a graphic card for normal price
@@charlieb308 Idk what graphic cards have to do with this conversation (other than having dumb trade tariffs making them more expensive. You have the last president to thank for that one.) or more curiously where you get 3 years from. However what I said still applies even to graphic cards. If for some reason you are still disappointed... well sorry to say your wasting your energy on me. I can't fix price gouging.
I need a nice scalier to replace the framemeister. Ill forever keep mine thou.
I need a nice scalier for the 480p consoles. xbox, ps2, wii and such. plus saturn changes resolutions alot for some games and the new scaliers deal with that better.
GBS-Control is another new scailer out that is more like a framemister, it also downscales and changes resolutions very good. I hear 2 other scaliers are coming, OSSC pro and something else. I have high hopes fro the new ossc.
I gotta wait it out to see what reviews best and what unit will work best for me.
Great video and product. I would love to own one for my ps2, but the price and the import taxes would be as expensive as a ps5 or series x, probably :D
But that and the mClassic are a very powerful combo, no doubt. Great review, stay safe!
I hope for a component only (component input - up to 4k hdmi output) cheaper and more massed produced version happens someday. I'm all about OG Xbox. And have a cheap VGA only version for Dreamcast fanatics. We can dream.
So do you consider the 5X a worthy replacement if we have the 2X-Scart and Pro?
Depends on your needs to be honest.
Hey Adam, mCable vs mClassic. which cable do I use for retro consoles and which do I use for the more modern HDMI based consoles? I’m guessing the classic is for retro. Thank you!
My mClassic review should be helpful. But short answer, mClassic is what I use for everything now.
Hey Adam, have you ever done a comparison of a cheap ps2 component cable vs retrovision ones? Are they worth the 10x price difference?
Short answer, yes.
The one thing OSSC does that the 5x doesn't have is resolution specific scanlines. I would hope in an update that scanlines could be enabled for 240p sources only. I would also hope for hybrid style scanlines in the future as well. Other than that, Mike Chi, you have outdone yourself to have a worthy replacement for the OSSC and framemeister. I'll gladly wait for those updates because the 5x is my only hope to get SNES on my Picky Sony X900H over RGB or Component.
I keep telling the community that vertical scanlines are vastly important to games and not just emulated looking scanlines that make all the pixel lines look solid clear like they're on an emulator.
I've been testing cross scanlines for 2 years to get that line count effect and right now I'm currently adding it to several 2D games coming on newer consoles where they're really needed. Mike isn't beating out Marqs in this game where it comes to some of the more important aspects people haven't even bothered to look at yet.
Quick question: the RetroTINK 5X's highest resolution is 1440p, but not all capture cards support it. I've read that the Elgato 4K60S+ does not support 1440p period. What happens when you plug the mClassic into the 5X outputting 1440p? Does it upscale the 1440p to 2160p?
It'll remain 1440p.
@@AdamKoralik I see. I assume the mClassic will at least upscale the 5X's 1080p output to 2160p, right? It seemed to have issues with the OSSC's >2X modes.
@18:20 YES YOU DO NEED TO GET ALL OF THE PIECES. good point.
Probably going to get this to replace my OSSC just to get rid of those extended black screen on res changes with Saturn (my last non-HDMI modded retro console). It also might make me get into PS2 again which is an added bonus. This thing is a beauty particularly when it comes to ease of use!
You can still use an older tink to handle the resolution switching and keep the smoothing feature.
I don't know if I got a defective retrotink 5x pro, but all I get is static/electrical sounds coming from my speakers, and the mclassic is not compatible with it. Just says no signal when I connect it
Man, earlier this year i bought both the retrotink 2x scart edition and the retrotink 2x pro m. I probably could have saved a little bit of money if i saw this one coming. Is this an upgrade i should get or is this more of an all in one kind of thing?
Definitely an upgrade, particularly for the PS2.
What's worth noting is that the Framemeister doesn't have an issue with component - it's with 480p. 240p over component is just as good as RGB (tested with Genesis and PS1 on PS2). The FM has a serious horizontal blurring issue with 480p on all inputs, even on the Scart and HDMI inputs, which was the case when routing the Dreamcast through both of those, and the GameCube with component.
Valid point.
I have never believed that the FM was ever build with the idea of supporting 480p sources in mind. Everything was always about native low resolutions and upscaling.
I had the ossc cover for that entire field like a champ in most cases, but another thing is now with 2D games getting released on later gen consoles, there's no devices out there to cover them aside from using ossc with a hdmi to vga adapter.
Btw, Gunlord X with full cross scanline support on PS4 BABY!!! You'll never see anybody else make an effort to cover it.
man u cover every nook and cranny nobody else does. can't wait for second batch release of it. btw what's your opinion on original monster component cable which i own, vs the retrovision ones? keep up the awesome content
I'm sure they're good, but...I'll bet HD RetroVision is better.
great pancake analogy, but I think a lot of people also pollute the stream by using bad passive console selectors.
I noticed when you move the setting from HDMI Limited to HDMI Full. The picture got a little darker. Thats something to note.
So I have the first party ps2 component cables is there anything to know with those, do they pretty much do the same thing as the HD Retrovision? Or is there a notable Quality difference?
They're fine, the HD Retrovision ones are just better made.
What PS2 SCART settings do you use for the Retrotink 5X? I just got mine and it doesn’t seem to be much better than the OSSC.
I use component.
Adam. Hi again. Emergency question for you -- after the accident, I'm planning on rebuilding my Dreamcast library. Which do you think is the better route to take, MODE or GDEMU? There's no way I'll ever be able to get the amount of games I had in my collection, and I'd like to avoid disk rot in the future. The plan is to go with the Dreamcase, the new-style controllers, and future proofing as much as I can. I'd just like to know which you personally prefer, between MODE and GDEMU, and why?
Personally, I prefer the MODE because of the larger variety of media support options, the dashboard that comes with it, Atomiswave conversion support, and the availability.
The GDEMU is good, but I don't like using SD cards, and the device itself is very rare. The majority of them out there are Chinese clone units which...I would not recommend.
@@AdamKoralik Awesome! Thanks for the quick response. I was scared you were going to say that, honestly ... The MODE doesn't work with the new Dreamcase, but that's fine -- I'll just stick to the original Dreamcast shell. Keep up the great work man, I'm looking forward to the day that you give us an updated tour of your game collection and console stash.
21:00 in addition to replacing the Micro USB
How about dual HDMI output, each with different settings, so one could have all the scanlines and whatnot to look good on your TV and the other could have the brightness adjusted and look good on capture/streaming
Might have to try get one those.
honestly, the lack of the smoothing mode kills this for me. The fact that the mClassic doesn't seem to do much with a ps2 through this, and the lack of a smoothing mode, means I can't use it for the one use case it should be perfect for. The ps2 is the only 7th gen console this should be considered for as there are better/equal options for the xbox and GC for much less money, but with no viable anti-aliasing solution we're still stuck with a less than ideal solution. Annoying as I can get a better image out of an n64 than this
I need to revise this comment now as I believe Mike Chi has added the smoothing mode in a firmware update - what a legend
Adam, this is a godsend. I commented on another video of yours recently that I'm looking to make the ultimate Saturn for myself. Basically, the Satiator and full RGB output. I originally thought it was going to cost me an arm and a leg because I would need to get a RetroTink AND an MClassic to get 1080p out of it, but this looks like the all-in-one solution for me. An investment for sure, but a worthy one. Thank you so much, man, your videos are the only reason I am into this hobby.
One question, though. Component would be more convenient for me to hook up the Saturn with, but is that option any worse then or the same as SCART? I would prefer component but if SCART is better then that's what I'll get.
Uh, depends. Saturn's component to the RetroTink 5X will be fine. But if you try to use component directly on a modern TV, it's unlikely to work.
You mean COMPONENT right? Not composite?
In 5 years from now: "Sony is re-releasing the PS2 with an RTX 4080Ti in it!...Annnnnnddddd...it still looks horrible. I don't get it."
PS2 Classic!
Hi adam I know your taking a break right now, but I wanted to ask if there’s a version/product like this but with more component inputs to go out from a single hdmi cable
As far as I know this is still the most up to date model. Why would you need more component inputs?
I use CRT for PS2 and it looks great, never been too impressed with component
Well, to each their own.
To be fair, Component on PS2 is a bad example. PS2 video signal is just bad to begin with regardless if you’re using component just simply because of how poorly Sony implemented it.
GameCube component on the other hand is practically the gold standard at least when it comes to the 6th gen consoles
Component through the right device at native resolution will change your mind.
@@bronzin1445 Both consoles + OSSC and hdmi to vga
If there's a Tink that accepts 480i/p, then you can use that too! As good as Dreamcast's VGA, whether or not you want to believe it.
What Component Cables did you use? If you used cheap ones you may not be as satisfied, you might notice a difference moreso on a bigger CRT coming from someone who has 2 CRTs one is 14 inches and the other is 28 inches with RGB SCART going from Composite to RGB SCART (Retro Gaming Cables) it's a night and day different especially on the 28 inches, but the bootup screen on the 14 incher does not look much different in my opinion but when you get into the game, it's so much better plus my 14 incher doesn't support NTSC as I have a PAL PlayStation 2 which to use 60Hz you need a display with NTSC (Why Sony?) but you get around that with an RGB SCART cable if your CRT supports PAL60
I didn't know what to expect in this review...
But it wasn't Urine Pancakes...
Great video Adam!
I have the factory sony component cables.. will these work with the 5x or do I need the HD retrovision ones? ..im wondering if there is a difference
It'll work, but I recommend the HD Retrovision ones.
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Where can I find the HD retrovision?
Do you think you could get a better signal from the 5X over the M-Pro that outputs to a M-Cable?
I'm just guessing you didn't watch the whole thing.
Great video man. I have the LevelHike PS2 HDMI cable, makes the picture look pretty damn sharp. Thoughts on how much of a jump in video quality I can expect if I go from LevelHike to RetroTink 5X? If you've heard of/tried out the LevelHike products that is
Going from $30 to $300, I wanna make sure I'm getting a very noticeable difference lol
LevelHike products are mostly trash.
You can look that up about them, they're not well reviewed.
The RetroTink 5X is in every way superior.
But it's still the PS2, you're not ever going to be impressed.
Is it better to use RGB scart or those HDRV cables in the video? And if the HDRV ones are better, what would you need to get them working on a PS2 Slim?
HDRV if you ask me.
@@AdamKoralik thanks! RetroTink just got the 5x pro back in stock, I picked up the HDRV cables so I’ll be having this set up this weekend. So hyped to finally be able to play all these PS2 classics again!
Lol you love comparing the HD Retrovision cables to preparing food. But ya know what? It works, and it makes sense. I'm just never going to think of pancakes the same haha. So quick question... I have the Genesis HD Retrovision cables. Do I need to buy the ps2 HD retrovision cables, or can I buy the ten dollar ps1 adapter to use on the Genesis cables since ps1 and ps2 output jacks are the same? Thanks for the review Adam!
You need the PS2 specific ones.
Good review. I have the RetroTink pro 2x multi, unfortunately most PAL ps2 game's were never progressive scan, pretty much all 576i/480i. You have to use GSM and hope the game can handle 480p without breaking, otherwise on a 55" modern tv, games can still look a tad off or blurred.
I was thinking of getting a PVM for the PS2 and prior console's and keeping the 2x multi for the xbox, Dreamcast etc as they still look good on a big TV. It's funny the Dreamcast was 2 years older than the PS2 yet could handle 480p better with many game's
Have you tried PlayStation 2 games via VGA? I haven't personally but I imagine it would be better
Cool!! New options with upscaling are always welcome!!! The more the better! Mmmmmm pancakes!!!
More than an EU standard it seems like SCART is easier to deal with.
Or do component cables work well through a switch?
Depends on the quality of the switch. I find it's easier to get high grade SCART switches than high grade component switches.
hey adam I have a question what would be the point of getting a retro tink 5x if the mclassic upscales and it does antialiasing. I really wanted to get a rt5x but i dont see the point if the mclassic works great.
They're two different things. The mClassic takes an HDMI signal and enhances it. The RetroTink converts non HDMI signals into HDMI.
nice i am excited for this
The “motion adaptive” deinterlacing mode is the one you want to use for consoles that run at 480i because you don’t get that flicker like the bob deinterlacing you get on the OSSC which was annoying. It’s a combination of both “bob” and “weave” deinterlacers. The “motion adaptive” deinterlacer is also a high quality deinterlacer. Adding the mClassic to it can make it better but it’s personal preference. Some people like the mClassic’s benefits, some people don’t.
Does your display have a good deinterlacer for passthru mode? Really good deinterlace would require the set doesn't do image processing and will only introduce lag + make it look worse. I have to look at my settings because I managed to get 480i super sharp and clear without any type of jitter involved.
I didn’t say anything about me having a good deinterlacer on a good display in passthrough mode. All I said was that the motion adaptive deinterlacing mode is the one to use and it’s a high quality deinterlacing method. I never mentioned a word about me having a good deinterlacer on a good display.
Hey Adam, I’m in the market for a ps2 component cable. Which one do you recommend, the Sony component cable or the HD Retrovision component cable?
Just trying to get the absolute best cable I can.
HD Retrovision.
@@AdamKoralik Thx!
Adam, I don't know if you reply to 5mo old videos, but you always seem to talk about retro vision cables. What about the oem component cables for the ps2, are they just as good??
Depends on who made them. I'd always recommend HD RetroVision.
One question on the PS2 side, can you play PS1 games on the PS2 with component cables without changing anything example change to RGB cables?
Yes actually.