Ranking the WORST Controllers of All Time

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  • @TheGingerOneNI
    @TheGingerOneNI 2 ปีที่แล้ว +502

    I was diagnosed with arthritis at 28 years old which limited the movement in a couple of my fingers. Being able to remap the shoulder buttons to the paddles on the Xbox Elite was a massive thing for me. It's not cheap but I never hear people talking about how useful it can be for accessibility.

    • @hi_tech_reptiles
      @hi_tech_reptiles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yeah I play on PC, and having good/extra side buttons on my mouse helps me cuz I'm missing my left ring finger. Def get how that kinda thing can be game changing, pardon the pun. Plus, a friend has arthritis and playing on PC he uses that Razer keyboard replacement type thing cuz it's easier on his wrists. I'm gonna be joining him soon cuz my 4 finger hand is having some issues lol.

    • @nodubshere6589
      @nodubshere6589 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That controller was just the same as the series x and s and yes it has paddles but paddles suck im my opinion in your case thats great but its kinda like those people who play inverted controls with the controller upside down

    • @PRWolf
      @PRWolf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very good point!

    • @pdraggy
      @pdraggy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have nerve problems limiting my movement, but I actually hate the remapped buttons in my Razer Wolverine TE controller because it leads me to accidentally lateralling the ball or throwing the ball away in Madden, they are just SO easy to accidentally hit in tense moments imo. Maybe it's cuz I'm used to it, but I much prefer JUST the defaults no remaps I can accidentally hit thank you!

    • @Cisseay
      @Cisseay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

  • @TeH_RunT
    @TeH_RunT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    GameCube controller is one of the most comfortable controllers of all time and always will be. How could you do this putting it so low down the list?!?

    • @niq872
      @niq872 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same thing I was thinking

  • @supersaber101
    @supersaber101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Would be nice for Xbox controllers to come with rechargeables but if I had to choose between rechargeable OR replaceable, I'd go replaceable. Nothing worse than a dead integrated battery, need a whole new controller at that point

    • @west6807
      @west6807 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It should be like the 360 wireless controllers where it came with detachable rechargeable battery and plugin for charging and wired mode as well as a battery cover if you where at a friends house and needed to slap some double AAs in it

  • @cactusmanbwl1990
    @cactusmanbwl1990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm definitely in the minority here, but I absolutely hate the adaptive triggers on the Dualsense. I try every game with it, and then turn it off. I just haven't found a game that I thought was enhanced by it. I could see GT7 being different due to feeling your tires lose traction or brake lockup, but I refuse to buy that dumpster fire.

    • @KagatoAsuka
      @KagatoAsuka 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have you played Returnal?

    • @Slamcrash
      @Slamcrash 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think try setting them to be weaker. I found them extremely tiring with Ratchet & Clank but after I turned them down it was great

    • @casmithh
      @casmithh 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think spider-man is a good subtle one.

  • @MSUHitman
    @MSUHitman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would have liked for you to rank the Atari 2600/5200/7800 controllers (since you did Intellivision) & the NES “dogbone” but otherwise great list.

  • @JustinPinedaMedia
    @JustinPinedaMedia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved how Austin dissed the Wii U gamepad lol

  • @bigcheese6417
    @bigcheese6417 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Wii U tablet wasn't used enough yes. BUT don't forget that the gyro in this thing is exceptional! Splatoon is awesome and it used it for motion aim, mini map, supers. And Nintendo land literally had wireless console VR using the gamepad. Get a Wii U, pay £5 for a copy of Nintendo land and watch your jaw drop when you see the tablet function flawlessly in any rotation. It's like looking through a portal.

  • @ZombieHunter37
    @ZombieHunter37 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don not know why Austin's so in love with rechargeable controllers. Regular batteries are far more efficient and useful. When a rechargeable battery starts to go bad they are far more expensive to replace than a couple AA's.

  • @thiago4santos
    @thiago4santos 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The 1st thing I usually do when start playing is turning off the controller vibration,and when you turn that off that ps5 controller is a B.

  • @RiasatSalminSami
    @RiasatSalminSami ปีที่แล้ว

    No way x360 pad is S tier with that horrendous d-pad that rivals even the virtual dpads of mobile games.

  • @faerieknight2298
    @faerieknight2298 ปีที่แล้ว

    I liked the NES controller. But yeah, it was rough on your hands, even for children. But yeah, the SNES controller was so much more comfortable. That said, the old Nintendo D-pads from both NES and SNES were well known for causing blisters and wearing holes in thumbs. As for the Wii U's gamepad, I find it's surprisingly comfortable to use. It's the battery life that it's biggest issue. That, and the screen which game devs were forced to use, but nobody knew what to do with it. Not even Nintendo.

  • @nastytryfe1350
    @nastytryfe1350 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the Neo Geo, Jaguar, and the Atari controllers?

  • @alancartridge
    @alancartridge ปีที่แล้ว

    You missed the 3DO & Atari Jaguar Controllers!

  • @DamoculesGulf
    @DamoculesGulf 2 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I think you guys honestly should have rated the Steam Controller. Yeah, it made some very questionable decisions, but it was ambitious and ended up informing the development and design of the Steam Deck.

    • @MaoRatto
      @MaoRatto ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I had 3 of those boys and they were amazing for the time. As they had taken the scuff gamepad of the ps3 and 360 era applied custom layouts and software to them. Adding two padels should be standard!!! I see back padels on so many nintendo switch controllers and motion controls in that game which is nice.

    • @dacid44
      @dacid44 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've still got mine, and use it regularly. Probably still will for a while yet, at least until I get a steam deck. Buttons are a bit mushy and the haptics aren't amazing, but it's pretty great for playing traditionally non-controller games from the couch.

    • @goshdarnchicken
      @goshdarnchicken ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Completely forgot about the Steam controller, and I agree, it should have been on here. It was odd, but it wasn't the worst thing I've ever used.

    • @info0
      @info0 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      well, judging by patents, Valve might be onto Steam Controller V2 which would be nice as I haven't got chance to buy original one on sale :(.
      From customizability perspective, it blast any controller on PC out of the water. You can configure it for any game, even RTS and play from couch lol. There were haptics before Sony even thought about DualSense, there were multi action adaptive triggers, you had mouse like aiming with touchpads and gyro aiming.
      The only complaints I could have: it wasn't exactly plug n play like Xbox controllers are, you needed to tweak the settings or download profiles for games from Steam and it only really supported Steam games only. Second complaint would be build quality which wasn't that great.

  • @vswag
    @vswag 2 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    Thats crazy bro, my Wii Sensor Bar never broke and still works 13 - 14 years later.

    • @michael1234252
      @michael1234252 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same here.

    • @user-vi4xy1jw7e
      @user-vi4xy1jw7e 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Same. I think Matt is just hard on his stuff. Lol

    • @michael1234252
      @michael1234252 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@user-vi4xy1jw7e Exactly, back in the day from 2007-2011 when the Wii was super popular I've never heard about the sensor bar being prone to frailer. In the past 10 years I've had to move my Wii several times since I was moving it to another tv within the house, Moving houses, or just temporarily moving it when I was away for school. Even then I've never had it break on me.

    • @Polderong
      @Polderong 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Over 10 years still working as out of the box

    • @michael1234252
      @michael1234252 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Polderong Same

  • @deanfranz
    @deanfranz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +382

    Oh, how dare you, Austin. The Duke controller was one of the best, most comfortable controllers for us big-handed gamers. What you said was a tiny-handed slap in the face.

    • @dontbotherreading
      @dontbotherreading 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sheesh Greta thunberg back in action over a new issue

    • @kenktheGD
      @kenktheGD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      What I noticed was children had no problem with it, always found the size complaint off. Weight maybe...

    • @Wimmle
      @Wimmle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Hail to the duke baby 😹

    • @staples6
      @staples6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      He literally acknowledged it was a good controller for big hands.

    • @EtemmuReborn
      @EtemmuReborn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I bought the newer ones and couldn't go back to the regular controller after using it for a couple days. Shame my puppies decided to tug of war the cable for it.

  • @legacy_the_archer
    @legacy_the_archer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Also hate the slander for xbox swappable batteries , literaly buying a 11$ energizer rechagable battery will save you lots of money and you never have to plug the controller in to charge .

    • @Quade-
      @Quade- ปีที่แล้ว

      Xbox controllers have come with a rechargeable battery pack for like the last 5 years and you can still use AA's it's just superior

  • @heimkhal2.097
    @heimkhal2.097 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I agree with the tier list but I don't agree with the rechargeable reasoning. Linus explained this better but with a AA battery you can easily swap it out. You can use rechargeable AA and even a battery pack. We also know that the batteries will degrade over time so built-in batteries would be a pain to swap out. I love xbox's decision to keep the battery that way but I also understand why people prefer built-in batteries.

    • @SparkSpace
      @SparkSpace 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What Microsoft shoudl do is include their rechargable kit in the box

    • @heimkhal2.097
      @heimkhal2.097 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SparkSpace Agreed

  • @tacticalbeaver4637
    @tacticalbeaver4637 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    You guys did forget to add the Nintendo Switch Pro controller. it's more commonly used than the Joy cons

    • @TyGamer0426
      @TyGamer0426 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I never got one but I do have 2 different power A controllers

    • @CommodoreFan64
      @CommodoreFan64 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I only have a Switch Lite, but I have a charge dock on my PC desk in my home office with extra USB ports, and when I'm at home I use my wired Power A controller to play with it docked, as it just feels so much better to use.

    • @CommodoreFan64
      @CommodoreFan64 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TyGamer0426 Power A is a very solid choice for the money, and despite the rubber on the thumb stick wearing off my Power A MOGA HERO controller is still the best controller I've used for my Android Phone, and Tablet for the GTA mobile games, and emulation, plus their Wired Xbox, and Switch controllers also work really well on Linux PC without making my wallet scream.

    • @Authan65
      @Authan65 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not more commonly used tho.

  • @CoalitionGaming
    @CoalitionGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    Dreamcast controller got done dirty. However, the third party controller market for Dreamcast was awesome and my favorites were the Saturn Astropad (basis for Duke controller imo), the Mad Catz Dream Pad, and the Nyko Dream master controller. Though I also think it's funny that age and people not being born yet was brought up for the Dreamcast but not the Playstation lol.

    • @PatrickThomasBrady
      @PatrickThomasBrady 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      As a collector of controllers, I have all these third party Dreamcast controllers and they are all bad, they’re just worse feeling versions of the Dreamcast controller but with turbo or extra face buttons that duplicate l and r

    • @CoalitionGaming
      @CoalitionGaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PatrickThomasBrady Meh. They were definitely not bad. Some downsides sure, but nothing is perfect. I suppose the Astro Pad had a hollow feel to it, but it was good for big hand feel, and Dream Master had a cheap feel to it but actual usage of it was fantastic especially because of built in rumble, and the Mad Catz imo took best of 1st party controller feel and third party controllers design for the best third party option.

    • @mat99rich
      @mat99rich 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I do agree I never had a problem with the dreamcast controller maybe C tier. The ergonomics where actually not that bad I think the rounded sides helped a lot. It was bulky but when my brother got a dreamcast the controller was just fine. Im sad that the dreamcast didn't do better because it would have been interesting to see the next evolution for sega. And I loved sonic adventures. We didn't have a memory card so we got pretty good at the first part of the game. And when we finally got a memory card the fact that it had games like the egg hatching game for sonic adventures was interesting. But on the Playstation part. A lot of people probably knew of the PlayStation since they are still around in the console space but the dreamcast was the last console for Sega so not everyone knows that Sega even made consoles unless you are in you late 20s onward.

  • @h0sti1e17
    @h0sti1e17 2 ปีที่แล้ว +85

    IMO the Elite 2 is S tier. I get the price, but the feel is the best, the adjustable thumbsticks and resistance. The ease of swapping button layouts (especially for games where you can't change layouts).
    On a side note, while not a controller that comes with a system, the NES Advantage was great.

    • @cletuswilliams413
      @cletuswilliams413 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Agreed for the Elite 2 controller

    • @ChrisHKD
      @ChrisHKD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Idk, I’d have given it an S but mine is lightly used and I’m already getting stick drift on the left thumb stick and my right trigger is starting to stick. Luckily I do have cover so can get it replaced when I have chance but for £150 there or there abouts I expected better. Then again my elite 1 grips completely peeled off so it’s better than that 😂

  • @hartzell101
    @hartzell101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Was hoping for the switch pro controller. I knew when I bought it it would be better than the joycons but holy shit it really is a great controller.

    • @James14OO
      @James14OO 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah its my second favourite controller ever behind the dualsense. The fact that the battery lasts such a ridiculous amount of time is great and it's really comfortable.

  • @TurboCharged_RubberDuck
    @TurboCharged_RubberDuck 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    If you included the Intellivision controller you should also have included the original Atari CX10 joystick!
    Not a great controller by any stretch of the imagination but thoroughly classic nontheless!

    • @quantumleaper
      @quantumleaper 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Don't forget the Colecovision, which was around with the Intellivision and Atari CX10. It's like they forgot EVERY Atari home console joystick.

    • @CommodoreFan64
      @CommodoreFan64 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Seems like they need to do a round two of this, and include way more controllers. Also I agree the OG Atari CX10 stick was not great, and gives me hand cramps after 15 to 20 mins it is iconic, and did help make the DB9 port one of the most used standards in history on consoles, and home computers from the late 70's - mid 90's.

    • @t12121
      @t12121 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed Where's the Atari controller?
      I'm thinking it should be ranked D.

    • @aruce9
      @aruce9 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have tried an intellivision controller and I really didn’t like it, the circle was mushy and awful, the regular buttons were okay but as a standin for a joystick was not good. I would rather take a 2600 controller as at least the joystick was a decent way of controlling retro games from that time period

    • @quantumleaper
      @quantumleaper 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aruce9 Maybe you should try an Arari 5200 controller, which was the worst controller for ANY system I have ever used in the past 43 years. I wouldn't call the disc mushy since there was that much movement of the disc. I know since I have repaired my Intellivision controllers in the past. What I didn't like was the lip around the disc on the Intellivision controllers.

  • @oaw117
    @oaw117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    DS3 motion control was actually really cool. In the game infamous. You had a lighting attack you could stear using it. It was rarely used and that made it a great surprise when it was.

    • @MaoRatto
      @MaoRatto ปีที่แล้ว

      That style of input is on switch heavily.

  • @deejay_n_va
    @deejay_n_va 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Also the DualSense is GOD TIER

  • @gregsmith9183
    @gregsmith9183 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I loved the 360 controller but hated the D-pad on it. So many times it would not register in the direcftion I pressed or perform multiple presses Also loved the Logitech wireless controller for the original Xbox console. The Wii Remote was great. Just hated the Motion Plus add-on for the original remote. With someone who has fairly small hand it just made it more bulky and difficult to hold in my opinion. Glad they re-released the Wii Remote with the motion plus built in.

  • @aaronsondag8347
    @aaronsondag8347 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    In all honesty I hate the fact that there are controllers where you can't replace the battery in them because as soon as that battery can't hold a charge any longer it is literally a paper weight unless you want to turn it into a corded controller. So no controller that has batteries you can't replace should ever reach S tier. Including my beloved elite series 2 controller.

    • @VanDiESEL619
      @VanDiESEL619 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      this. I'll never undestand why people defend controllers with built in batteries

    • @ram89572
      @ram89572 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yep, totally with you on that one. Any controller where you need to open it up, source a proper quality replacement, and then have to put it back together is definitely worse than something where you can literally just pop off a battery door and swap out plain AAs, rechargeable AAs, or a replaceable rechargeable pack

  • @ThiagoAbreuJedi
    @ThiagoAbreuJedi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    - "I don't like the sticks on the bottom"
    - "Dual sense"
    - "Best controller evür!!!"

    • @a3-radio
      @a3-radio 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He did specifically said it was the features

  • @hi_tech_reptiles
    @hi_tech_reptiles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You guys were all over the place here. The NES controller was uncomfortable but had the first Dpad that wasn't a disc on home console. The PC Engine and Sega Master System had disc dpads. The Saturn Japanese controller was the best for tons of shooters and fighters because it perfected it, the 360 Dpad was horrific, tons of points you missed. Also rechargable AAs is not a downside....?

    • @m3tzable
      @m3tzable 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the only reason other companies used the disc is because of nintendo protected their dpad with patents, they used them first awith game and watch. Playstation got a close second for me with there dpads

    • @hi_tech_reptiles
      @hi_tech_reptiles 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@m3tzable true, it was just a point not mentioned iirc

  • @Fullcollapse19
    @Fullcollapse19 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Blasphemy! The Dreamcast controller would be S tier if the cable was on the top.

    • @h0sti1e17
      @h0sti1e17 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It at least had the little clip. And several games took advantage of the screen/memory card.

  • @DonisGP
    @DonisGP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The dualshock 4 will always be my favorite. I still have my og one that came with my ps4 slim in 2016 and use it almost daily. Still works and feels amazing. It was such a huge leap and had major developments compaired to older ps controllers. Still feel great to use, really responsive, looks good, and it still keeps up with todays standards.

    • @dinophone8084
      @dinophone8084 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the problem is the triggers

    • @kevincorroyer101
      @kevincorroyer101 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How lol dualshock 4 had even more drift than joycons😂 i still got my og joycons no drift. But damn i had like 15 dualshock 4 controllers always the damn drift

    • @DonisGP
      @DonisGP ปีที่แล้ว

      @ursulpolal5949 I like how it fits my hand better but I will say the buttons click and feel so crisp. I tried my friends series X and S controller since I only play PS and their controllers are definitely nice. But PS controllers fit my hand better lol

  • @simonmekhail8147
    @simonmekhail8147 2 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    i would put the xbox elite controller in S teir, yes its pricey, but its on sale often. And other controllers that are up to its standard and level of quality are the same price, if not way more. Plus, this controller has a couple more nice-to-have features than other controllers in its price range, and lets you stay within the ecosystem and tune the controller from your settings app.

    • @MrTwinii88
      @MrTwinii88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sale often and you buy one and have it for years instead of buying manny normal controllers. ^^

    • @frostbite3820
      @frostbite3820 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Price shouldn't be considered for the elite. Its called elite for a reason. Plus there is a reason that all the enthusiasts use it. It was essentially designed so that you never want to put it down

  • @2911Lucas
    @2911Lucas 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Besides the Fisherprice look the Wii U GamePad was amazing. Sure, not every game uses the touchscreen. But it was very comfortable (especially for people with larger hands). There are games which use the GamePad for amazing features. Affordable Space Adventure, Pikmin 3, Fatal Frame, Wind Waker come to my mind.

    • @FinneasJedidiah
      @FinneasJedidiah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I played nintendoland for probably hundreds of hours with friends in high school- I honestly think the Wii u as a whole is super underrated

    • @Devo_gx
      @Devo_gx 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I would have put it at D tier; maybe C if it had actually used a capacitive touchscreen instead. Outside of this and the Dreamcast controller I’m fairly happy with this tier list.

    • @user-vi4xy1jw7e
      @user-vi4xy1jw7e 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wasn't comfortable in terms of weight.

    • @niccocaredda9876
      @niccocaredda9876 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      no bro that things screen is horrible, breaks with a single tap. Anybody remember the 3ds/ds big brother stylus tho??
      that was pretty nice

    • @saricubra2867
      @saricubra2867 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wind Waker sucked, either on the Gamecube or Wii U, a rushed game will forever be bad, even the Gamepad use on Wind Waker HD is basically non existant for that awful ocean.

  • @MWOPPDLX
    @MWOPPDLX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Would've given GC controller A tier. It's still the go to for Smash and has lasted 4 generations

    • @leecroft7311
      @leecroft7311 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Personally would place in B tier. Tiny d-pad, triggers... people seem to love them but still not a fan of them myself.

    • @MWOPPDLX
      @MWOPPDLX 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@leecroft7311 I'll give you that. Personally I almost never needed to use the dpad and my only complaint for the triggers would be they could be a lil firmer and have better feedback

  • @seans4474
    @seans4474 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'm on team AA batteries. Use rechargeables Great when you can hot swap batteries and it increases controller longevity. I still have my 360 controllers and use them

    • @casvanommeslaeghe
      @casvanommeslaeghe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      that, and changing out the play and charge kit when it loses charge is easy AF as opposed to the dualshock 4

    • @Brain_pocketer
      @Brain_pocketer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@casvanommeslaeghe It sort of future-proofs the controller, as the battery never dies, because you can literally use any set of double As

  • @chaseharlan01
    @chaseharlan01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    A bit disappointed that my favorite controller of all time the Wii u pro controller didn't show up, it's like the inverse of the PlayStation where the two sticks are up top but it feels really comfortable cuz your thumb's naturally want to rest there and it's rechargeable but unlike the PlayStation it actually has a cover on the back so if the rechargeable battery dies you could buy a new one and easily put it in no need to take apart the entire controller. The only problem with it is it uses mini b which was outdated for the time but I will say at least it's more robust than micro so depending on how you look at it that could also be a good thing I've had the micro b spot on the back of my Xbox controller break before.

    • @beefy45
      @beefy45 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I loved that controller

    • @MrFunnyman5260
      @MrFunnyman5260 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow I have it (the black one) and use it to this day on pc. I really really like it!! I think we're one of the few 😅

    • @antieatingactivist
      @antieatingactivist 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I've been a Nintendo kid all my life and I HATED the Wii U pro controller. Having both sticks up top was awful. They righted that wrong with the switch pro controller IMO.

    • @J0bix
      @J0bix 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@antieatingactivist each their one, I guess

    • @user-vi4xy1jw7e
      @user-vi4xy1jw7e 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Switch Pro controller is better

  • @waulkingwithdinos4564
    @waulkingwithdinos4564 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "I hate the joycons, they're too small."
    "The Wii U is to big and unwieldy." 😂

  • @NathanMatthews.
    @NathanMatthews. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A little unfair on the PS3 controller as you said it's similar to the PS2 controller but the Xbox one and Xbox series x/s controllers are doing the exact same thing too.

  • @Jrv3192
    @Jrv3192 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think the Dreamcast controller deserved more credit really it was pretty ahead off its time with hall based sensors for the joystick and it had anolog triggers too

    • @SilverReviews
      @SilverReviews ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly, and it was surprisingly very comfortable and ergonomic.

    • @MaoRatto
      @MaoRatto ปีที่แล้ว

      The dreamcast had a bad analog stick, was backwards on the lack of a second stick. Also the thing in the middle was annoying.

    • @RetroZero64
      @RetroZero64 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MaoRatto The analog stick is actually pretty good. it had the feel of notches without there actually being any

  • @anthonygioia4531
    @anthonygioia4531 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I loved the duke controller and greatly missed it when they made the controllers smaller in later years.

  • @Viper20184
    @Viper20184 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    For the most part I agree with your list. I would move the Elite to the S tier, GameCube to A. And ill chime in with a controller that you forgot. The Wavebird. I would rank that one as a A tier

    • @ram89572
      @ram89572 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was very fond of my Wavebird. It worked well and felt good.

    • @saricubra2867
      @saricubra2867 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wavebird is easily S, godlike battery life and range.

  • @SoundTestMedia
    @SoundTestMedia 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    You all forgot an essential S tier controller, the Wii U Pro Controller. By far the most comfortable controller I've ever held in my life. Amazing battery life (like 60 or something hours?), fantastic D-Pad, a completely new analog stick placement, which I find better that Playstation's Analog placement and amazing capability with a wide genre of games. It's a shame Nintendo didn't re-use the design for the Switch. The only downside I would say is the lack of analog triggers.

    • @antishulk
      @antishulk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i disagree a bit the buttons are kinda mushy and the stick placement is a bit more difficult imo

    • @bland9876
      @bland9876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I always found the buttons a tiny bit too easy to press but otherwise they're my favorite buttons and + shaped d-pad.
      The stick layout is like the steam controller but with inferior joysticks versus track pads.
      My perfect regular controller would be a switch pro controller with the PlayStation layout and then the buttons and d-pad from the Wii u just slightly harder to press. And make it look like the Wii u pro controller black version. Lastly make it use AA and everything else like an Xbox or 8bitdo controller.

    • @Middleseed
      @Middleseed 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I actually loved the fact that they switched over to the Xbox style, much more comfortable than either the PlayStation or wii u style.

  • @randomcnando
    @randomcnando 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I used to love the ps3 and subsequently the ps4 controllers for the rechargeable internal battery BUT as I've gotten older and my console collection grows I love that Xbox STILL has replaceable batteries. I have ps3 controllers that are permadead without battery replacement (which are becoming harder to find consistently) but I can toss some rechargeable AA batteries in my 360 controller and it works just the same as it always has without all that extra hassle. I hope Xbox holds its course for replaceable batteries.

  • @BrandonGiesing
    @BrandonGiesing 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Xbox Series controller for me would be easily S tier IF they added motion, literally the only thing missing that both other consoles have. Once you play some games like shooters with gyro aim like on Switch, it's near impossible to go back to sticks.

    • @firstsonofthesea7938
      @firstsonofthesea7938 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They need to get rid of that plastic clicking I can’t stand that plastic feel

  • @rikiapati8010
    @rikiapati8010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    AA batteries is a plus always... you can buy rechargeable AA batteries and throw them when they die and just buy some new ones. Withe the built in battery it's way more complicated to replace it

    • @Ferzin400
      @Ferzin400 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Also you have to play wired when the built in battery is flat, where i can recharge the flat batteries while i play with new ones in the meantime.

    • @Gamesta100
      @Gamesta100 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Owning all 5 PS's and probably 20 controllers across all 5 and I've never had to replace a battery.

    • @ram89572
      @ram89572 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Gamesta100 Good for you. That isn't the experience of everyone out there and also doesn't say anything about those systems in the future when one of those batteries might be 15 or 20 years old. Why defend a practice that is completely unnecessary? Oh, wait. I know why. You're just a Sony fanboy and they can never do any wrong. That's literally the only reason to defend a controller having a battery that can't be swapped out in 30 seconds.

    • @rikiapati8010
      @rikiapati8010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Gamesta100 what happens when your ps3 controller's battery dies and there will be almost no replacement for it? It is an old system, so probably the availability of a new battery will drop and the price will go higher. with AA it won't be such a problem

  • @kalebnolan8343
    @kalebnolan8343 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    SACRILEGE!! THE DUKE IS SOMETHING SACRED! IT TRANSCENDS THE TIER LIST!

  • @cdgames69
    @cdgames69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wait, was it actually a thing where the Wii sensor bar would regularly break?
    I still have my very first sensor bar, and that cable has gone through some shit. This thing has survived 5 television swaps alongside 3 house changes, not to mention 4 room changes inside of that last house. It outlived the Wii that it came with, which I need to lay upside down in order for it to read discs

  • @hi_tech_reptiles
    @hi_tech_reptiles 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The Series XS controller is my favorite controller ever. That Dpad is mint, and the triggers, overall feel... It's by far the most versatile.

  • @Larry
    @Larry 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I own both colours of the apple pippin, the controller is really comfortable, 100% not worth an F. But game wise, it's somewhere between a Philips CD-i and a 3DO.

  • @Dariushellstrome
    @Dariushellstrome 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Earlier in the vid I thought you guys said that you sort of have to look at the controller in a vacuum. As uncomfortable as the original NES controller is to hold and use for its time period it was C or low B teir for a variety of reasons, replacement cost, relatively tough construction.

  • @JamiePineappleWyatt
    @JamiePineappleWyatt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    With the amount of charge cycles that I go through in a year with my controllers, I'm quite glad Xbox controllers have the option for 3rd party battery packs with the capability to passthrough the onboard usb port for charging, so that I can swap out a bad pack once it finally dies or looses capacity without pulling apart the whole controller. With the new S controllers I have really appreciated USB-C support and the native support with pc via bluetooth with no hassles is amazing.

    • @m3tzable
      @m3tzable 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i never had to switch out batteries ons the Dualshock controllers in it's lifetime, its something microsoft charged extra for

    • @JamiePineappleWyatt
      @JamiePineappleWyatt 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@m3tzable I do well over 700 cycles a year, there isnt a single lithium on the planet that can keep a controller lasting more than 15 minutes in my house after that.
      P.S I have plenty of DS2 and 3's that have had battery issues. Especially considering their age.
      You must be using yours for a max of half an hour a day if they last you "forever", mine get some real use. Besides $20 for two batteries, a charge station and easy reparability (thats a score these days, you know, with right to repair being a thing) Xbox wins for me. Sony you have to pay the same price just to get a glorified usb hub and you get no batteries at all + the wonderful experience of "Hey I played 15 minutes of Ratchet and Clank, now I have to get off because my controller went flat or I have to use the included 20cm charge cable to play"

    • @m3tzable
      @m3tzable 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JamiePineappleWyatt nah I just charged it, via wall adapter or just a longer cable. It's a standard micro usb cable unlike the 360 one. Or just change controller and charge the second one. Of course the usage per charge did go down but it wasn't that bothersome to change the battery.even with right to repair. It's super easy to change the battery if you want, I did change the shells of my ds3's though and they did get plenty of use. Minimum of 3hours a day
      Ds2 wasn't wireless so that's wrong, what u mean glorified hub for same price? And you did get the battery with controller, idk what you whining about.

  • @kendellawson3962
    @kendellawson3962 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    NO NO NO the Dreamcast is at least C tier. I would have gave it a B. You guys are crazy. You could give your memory card to your friends, play games etc. A very interactive device.
    Then you'll gave the Sega 3D Pad a C like WHAT!!! You guy were trippin. D for that one.
    I think you'll used Tier B as a nostalgia Tier smh.
    Plus, the Xbox One is definitely S tier. The PC world was all about Xbox One controllers and all the different colors that went with it. Austin, your favorite controller is the Pokemon edition!
    PS5 controller is S Tier but then you put in because of one game... I'm done. my head hurts and Matt....you shut up! lol

  • @Bigblock6o
    @Bigblock6o 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Xbox elite 2 is the best controller. I had both versions I like the weight of the elite ones. It’s the offset sticks that make me like the Xbox controllers the best. I have not tried a PS5 Duelsence (I think I butchered that one) I think I would like it.

  • @valiantsloth
    @valiantsloth ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I still prefer having AAs over an internal battery. Have a box full of dead controllers that can only be played wired now. On the other hand, my rechargeable AAs have a higher mAh rating than any controller's internal battery that I'm aware of. Also don't have to be married to a cord or change controllers on a long gaming session. 30 seconds to change the batteries and back at it.

  • @GryffindorSeeker
    @GryffindorSeeker ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I wish the Switch pro controller was on the list here. When joy con drift was a huge issue for me the pro controller was a huge help, it was the perfect size for a controller and it felt good to hold. I also never had a problem with it when it comes to drifting. I’d give it a solid A. The only reason I’m not giving it an S is because it was priced more than I expected it to be in my opinion and it didn’t come with the Switch.

  • @G3BEWD
    @G3BEWD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the best qualities of the Xbox controllers is the fact that it have replaceable batteries, like can you imagine getting 4 rechargeable batteries, using 2, while 2 of them are ready at any time? No pluging in needed? Like the fact that batteries are getting better and better and you have 4000,5000 even 6000mah of charge? while the ps5's has only 1500mah? There is no comparison in convenience

  • @MrThirst
    @MrThirst 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I agree with all of this apart from the Elite controller. I needs to be S tier. What it lacks in the PS5 haptics it makes up for in back buttons and interchangeable sticks. Its S tier.

    • @stonegrendel9064
      @stonegrendel9064 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I added the Rise 4.0 buttons to the back. skip the soldering and its about a 20 minute install. It definitely improves life a bit but the Elite series 2 is still top in my book.

  • @saricubra2867
    @saricubra2867 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The weakness of the XBOX360 definetly are the analog triggers, i prefer the design of the Gamecube's triggers, they fit your figers perfectly, Microsoft also fixed the triggers with the latter XBOX controllers.

  • @doublevendetta
    @doublevendetta 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Removable AAs are a feature not a bug, and I'm tired of having to try and DEFEND that.

  • @qkelly6239
    @qkelly6239 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think you guys were way to hard on the Wii u gamepad
    Let's not forgot how comfortable it was to hold or at least to my 7 your old hands
    The buttons were quality
    The thunbstick layout is my favorite
    The thing is durable as hell
    And when games did utilize the WII U gamepad right it worked really well

  • @SASUKE1THE1AVENGER
    @SASUKE1THE1AVENGER 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I found the Wii u gamepad comfortable to hold, and it was nice to be able to use it as the screen so you didn't need to use the tv for it. It is a great convenience controller. But with that said, the switch is 1000% better for it's convenience, but not ergonomics.

    • @joester4life
      @joester4life ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree. The Wii U Gamepad was a nice fit, and it wasn't heavy. I played COD a lot on it.

    • @SASUKE1THE1AVENGER
      @SASUKE1THE1AVENGER ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joester4life dude, same.I played a lot of bo2 on it, it looked really good and played really well.

  • @seadx6
    @seadx6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Xbox Duke and S should be NO DOUBT switched, the button placement on the Duke is exactly like a Genesis controller, same with the 360 and Series S|X controller

  • @Pc118Gamer
    @Pc118Gamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I really like the dreamcast controller, it's surprisingly comfortable, and its layout is pretty good IMO
    same can be said about the duke controller.

    • @jimmymyers
      @jimmymyers 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It handled Crazy Taxi's wonky steering better than the controllers I've used to on my pc to emulate it.

  • @MountainWo1f
    @MountainWo1f ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a nitpick but the xbox one had 2 controllers. The lanch didn't have a headphone jack and cosmetically was different around the xbox button. The controllers that came with the xbox one s did have a headphone jack, and Bluetooth and that cosmetic change around the xbox button.

  • @BigMan7o0
    @BigMan7o0 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The xboner controller has quickly become my favorite ergonomically, but the sticks are WAY too loose imo. A lot of people when they came out would send them out to get the thumbstick tension increased so they were more similar to the 360, thats my ONLY issue with them

    • @yeetyeet5079
      @yeetyeet5079 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe they were responding to complaints that the 360 sticks were too stiff

    • @BigMan7o0
      @BigMan7o0 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yeetyeet5079 idk why people would complain about that, all lowering the tension achieved was lowering accuracy in any game that uses the thumb sticks in any capacity

    • @yeetyeet5079
      @yeetyeet5079 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I mean some people like children have weaker thumbs

    • @BigMan7o0
      @BigMan7o0 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@yeetyeet5079 I was pretty damn young when I started gaming and didn't have an issue.
      Probably too young tbh, I started playing games with my dad on his Xbox 360 at like 8 maybe, and had already been playing worms with him and my mom on the ps2 every once in a while for a year or so
      Edit: correction, I started playing worms on ps2 around 7 or 8, and played 360 at 9 or 10.
      Pretty sure mw3 was the first 360 game I played not long after it came out, which was 2011

    • @yeetyeet5079
      @yeetyeet5079 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@BigMan7o0 im just saying maybe some people said the 360 sticks were too stiff or Microsoft used different sticks for another reason like cost

  • @majorjockitch
    @majorjockitch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    There's plusses to separate batteries also , you don't deal with failed or battery deterioration. You can buy a couple pair of rechargeable batteries and keep two on charge. Then you can just swap batteries , not the same downtime.

    • @NashvilleUK
      @NashvilleUK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      100%

    • @cactusmanbwl1990
      @cactusmanbwl1990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, I prefer to have the option of AA's if it's available. Especially if I'm taking the controller on a trip or something with me.

  • @explodingpotato6448
    @explodingpotato6448 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just get rechargeable double As, there is no issue of the battery going bad, if you are out of charge you just swap a couple more in and put the double As on charge, hell you might already have rechargeable double As and the charger at home if you are the type of person that handles their electronics, cars or general electrical wiring at your house on your own, don't get the branded battery packs, they are a rip off, the only advantage they might have is charging docks and getting recharged inside the controller but that is a downside not an advantage, you are just replicating what internal batteries have to deal with and not taking advantage of their removability, i.e. swapping them out instantly and putting the drained ones in the charger, they also last significantly less if I am not mistaken, and they also cost significantly more.

  • @JxtAnderson
    @JxtAnderson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    *Despite the economic market crash,I'm so happy. I have been earning $45,850 returns from my $8,000 investment every 14 days.*

    • @davidtoney7698
      @davidtoney7698 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This must be an investment with Mr Clinton Jackson.

    • @andrewcuomo8608
      @andrewcuomo8608 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He helped me recover what I lost trying to trade myself

  • @darkphoxgaming
    @darkphoxgaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With our XBOX 360 remotes, we had gotten this battery pack set that gave our remotes wireless charging capabilities and it was pretty nice. Turn the console and such off and plop the remote on the included charging pad and next day you would be ready to go with now worries that your remote was dead

  • @bland9876
    @bland9876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The joycons are D at the very best of times. And the pro controller is C because the d-pad has diagonal issues and the facebuttons feel strange however the shape is S tier though PS layout is the best.

  • @pelago_
    @pelago_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was 13-14 and not a massive boy, and I loved the duke. I didn’t have much of an issue handling it, I thought the size was cool as hell.

  • @allenellisdewitt
    @allenellisdewitt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    HAHA, I actually got angry at your grade for the dual shock, then remember this is just a stupid video for fun. :P

  • @artofchang
    @artofchang 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is it true that Microsoft has a deal with Duracell? If it is, then that may be the reason why Xbox controllers don't have an internal rechargeable battery.

  • @bland9876
    @bland9876 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the Saturn controller always looks better than the Dreamcast controller for some reason. All they had to do was add a slot for a vmu and they would have been good but nope we get the Dreamcast controller instead.

  • @InsaneCarverUpqik
    @InsaneCarverUpqik ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i like both xbox and ps consoles but the one reason i always prefer ps over xbox is because the symmetrical sticks have always been way more comfortable for me XD

  • @godaininja
    @godaininja 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GameCube S tier and Wii Remote F tier. Biggest controller downgrade of all time. Wii U Gamepad was okay because it's DS-like and I grew up with that.

  • @ff_crafter
    @ff_crafter ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The original psx controller doesn't deserve a b tier because of the short R2 L2 button. It is a C tier max.

  • @studmachine1678
    @studmachine1678 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You guys forgot the Coleco Vision controller. Fairly similar to the Intelivision controller but possibly worse.

  • @skamegeddon915
    @skamegeddon915 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was hoping the Jaguar controller would be mentioned in this. Who didn't want 3 dozen buttons?!

  • @YesNo-rz2dn
    @YesNo-rz2dn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was rewatching this and just realized, IS THAT A DONUT MEDIA SHIRT

  • @AWillfulMemory
    @AWillfulMemory 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wii u gamepad is b-tier at least and Dualshock 3 is a-tier because of the gyro controls.

  • @Lorten369
    @Lorten369 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hope we can hear the like to dislike score and some comments in the next video. 🤷🏼‍♂️🤔

  • @apaxtoa
    @apaxtoa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thousands of smash players just threw up hearing the game cube controller rating.

  • @somegamememes3246
    @somegamememes3246 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i will give you d
    ken in the background : funniest thing I have seen in ages .mp3

  • @jaystapes3086
    @jaystapes3086 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the List! Only thing I'd change is the PS4 controller with GameCube controller.

  • @tippydaug525
    @tippydaug525 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "This is better than the 360 controller, we'll give it an A"
    wut

  • @BasshITheGreat
    @BasshITheGreat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    N64 Controller all the way!!! Best controller ever!!!!! Fight me Austin!!!!!!!!!

  • @feltron
    @feltron 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    From what I've heard about the quality of the pro controller I would put it lower. Maybe just one tier. The Sega controller you guys showed was the six button which was a revision of the original 3 button.
    Also the SNES controller did not give extra buttons (unless comparing it to the original Sega genesis).
    Did the 6 button ever come with a Sega. I had to buy one separate.

  • @Thundervolt888
    @Thundervolt888 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would put the most innovative controllers higher in the list personally because they’re pushing or pushes the gaming industry forward such as the Dreamcast, Nintendo Wii etc.

  • @Intrinsety
    @Intrinsety 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a little surprised you talked about the joy cons but not the pro controller

  • @user-vi4xy1jw7e
    @user-vi4xy1jw7e 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How did 360 rank higher than One? The 360 D-pad was garbage.

  • @BraxtonKovary
    @BraxtonKovary 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know it isn't a controller that comes in the box with the Switch, but the Switch Pro Controller is S for me

  • @skylargreen828
    @skylargreen828 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Growing up on a Wii, I put the Wii remote on high A tier. Sorry Austin!

  • @itzHaze
    @itzHaze ปีที่แล้ว +1

    how u gonna say ur not having nostalgia bias when u put the super nentendo the same teir as the PS4

  • @loudstone9193
    @loudstone9193 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now you have to rate the wii controller addons that you could attach

  • @fastbrad2233
    @fastbrad2233 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic tier list. Just would’ve bumped the ps4 remote controller up one tier.

  • @Wimmle
    @Wimmle 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good list but I'd bring the Wii U up to a solid C being able to play most games on the gamepad without the need for the tv is pretty awesome and it's very light weight with decent battery

  • @SilverReviews
    @SilverReviews ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dreamcast controller was actually really good man

  • @yentl555
    @yentl555 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Wii u pro controller was great tho....

  • @kevinhewitt8043
    @kevinhewitt8043 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Personally, what keeps the dual sense out of s tier for me is the battery life. I love the gyro controls, but think the touch pad and haptic triggers are a bit gimmicky, I thought the same thing when Microsoft tried to include rumble in their triggers back in 2013, and sony has yet to change my mind. I also kinda like the fact that the xbox controllers come with removable batteries since that means the controller would last much longer than it would have if the battery wasn't removable. It's still B.S. that they don't include a battery pack with the new xbox consoles though.