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The universe that they’re setting up here could very well rival the Souls series. Fairytale Souls has so much potential, it’s nuts no one thought of it before now.
Adelina’s Sister is also the legendary stalker known as The White Lady. Adelina poisoned her sister to steal the spotlight, it is possible that Adelina is not Snow White but perhaps her sister. Adelina is the evil queen who upon learning that her sister was he fairest of them all, decided to poison her in jealousy. The Apple is a form of poetic Justice because of what Adelina did to her sister, the White Lady, Snow White.
Thanks for actually covering this game. I’m quite disappointed by how little story & lore coverage this game got by the larger souls TH-cam community. Great video!
100% and the Swamp Monster is a direct nod to the swamp creatures from various folklore like the Rougarou(Louisiana), the Moss Man and Skunk Ape(Florida). Or even the Babau in Italian folklore. Also the "Swamp/Man Thing" in comics. Not a "fairytale" for some but Simon Manus is also a direct link to the presumed "father" of Gnosticism "Simon Magus" (known mainly as Simon the Zealot) from the Bible. With the Sefirot surrounding the stage and his connection to God, it makes sense. Simon Manus in boss form could also be huge nods to the Solomon Grundy nursery rhyme and the DC comic character. Lastly, Sophia is a being in Gnosticism. Sophia in Greek means "wisdom" and is an "aeon" (basically a supernatural being like an angel, which aligns perfectly in game), come to think of it, theres a lot of occult references ingame
when your heart starts to pound for the first time, Carlo will start grunting and shouting when attacking and most of the spring noises will be gone as well as his jerking will be much less than before. also, when he dies, he will be starting to try getting up to fight on or moan from the pain he endures as opposed to just flopping to the ground before he gained humanity.
I'd love to see a Peter Pan game that blends the gameplay of Souls games, Devil May Cry, and Kingdom Hearts as a great experience. Other fairy tales developers could use are Aladdin, Wizard of Oz, Dorian Gray, Hansel and Gretel, Red Riding Hood, Jack and the Bean Stalk, Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, and The Happy Prince.
the Swamp Monster is a direct nod to the swamp creatures from various folklore like the Rougarou(Louisiana), the Moss Man and Skunk Ape(Florida). Or even the Babau in Italian folklore. Also Swamp Thing and Man Thing in superhero comics. Not a "fairytale" for some but Simon Manus is also a direct link to the presumed "father" of Gnosticism "Simon Magus" (known mainly as Simon the Zealot) from the Bible. With the Sefirot surrounding the stage and his connection to God, it makes sense. Simon Manus in boss form could also be huge nods to the Solomon Grundy nursery rhyme and physically resembles the DC Comics Solomon Grundy.
I think I found yet another fairytale easter egg, IMO the nun Cecile and the Archbishop are based on the Princess and the Frog, that's why both of them turn creatures with frog like features, the Archbishop has frog legs and a frog tongue, and the nun Cecile turns into a frog like creature if you don't get her the Archbishop Mark before you defeat the Archbishop. Also while Victor is a clear reference to Victor Frankenstein he can also be considered a reference to Bane from Batman who gets injected with a fluid to enhance his strength (which Victor does in his phase 2), there are in fact several Batman easter eggs in the game, Venigni origin story is like Batman's (and he has a loyal butler), Arlecchino is a lot like a cross between the Joker and the Riddler, and there are Harlequin enemies in the game (the clown enemies that explode, a possible reference Harley Quinn), there is clearly a huge fan of Batman on the team of devs at Round8.
@elliottwright2763 I don't think so, they were quite explicit that most of the story and sidequests were inspired by fairytales, there are a ton of obvious references to all kinds of well-known stories eventhough they aren't mentioned in name, Beauty & The Beast, Snow White, etc.
@@AscendantStoic I see what you mean I noticed a Snow White reference myself and beauty n the beast but I do get the similarities to arlechinno and riddler/ enigma especially his cunning voice and attitude.
Really nice 👍 looking for more of Your content mate, I thought I've had a good grasp of the lore but thanks to these videos it seems there is so much more to be discovered! Keep it up and if You ever feel like it I'd be hard pressed to watch a longer format video by yourself 👌🎩
I haven’t even finished the game yet and I am already down the rabbit hole of the lore. I know it won’t even be considered for it, but in my opinion Lies of P wins game of the year.
wow I did not finder see the women for the beauty and the beast reference once again you are showing something new great work as always. and the easter eggs are spot on and I didn't even notice.
The biggest reason I don’t think that Krat is Gepetto’s toy box is because in the cannon ending (Rise of P), his son does come back (Puppet becomes human) but his most likely desire would be as he states, a world without terror against Carlo. Instead, he purposely set up the puppet frenzy in order to strengthen the Clever One’s heart and then take it to put into the Nameless Puppet (which is made partially from Carlo’s dead body). It was all an elaborate plan in a world that wasn’t set up for him but his genius and influence makes it possible until the clever one does not conform. Now Dorothy is a whole different can of worms!😂 For real though, I’ve been loving your videos!
I’m currently in the final level, and The carcasses that fall out of the cages remind me of the skating monkeys in Return To Oz. They’re probably in other locations, but this was the first time I noticed the similarities
An alice in wonderland game would go crazy. Obviously theyre doing wizard of oz next, but they could do a whole franchise. Maybe even an anthology with charcters that maybe couldnt fill an entire gamd (little red riding hood, hansel and gretel, goldilocks)
I think Adelina dies because of the explosion that releases Romeo from inside the King of Puppets. And that is why later the White Lady blames you for killing her sister.
You fave off with the White Lady first, before you even reach the opera house. Adelina was dying from the petrification disease, the blast from the explosion didn’t harm anyone.
I think you forgot victor as in victor frankenstein and the jeckle and hyde for the final boss. Even though its a reach it really did remind me of dr jeckle and mr hyde
What if the guy P..however you say his name..the guy seeking immortality..is a future Carlo? A deep in the future Carlo. The hair length matches the Specter who is already likely a future Carlo.
While I don’t agree on the whole “Geppetto wished so hard he ended up creating Krat as a means to revive his son” angle you were proposing. I do agree that Geppetto wishing hard enough for it did allow for things to fall into place that his wish could be granted. Pinocchio DOES have Carlo’s Ergo inside him and thus, possesses Caro’s dormant memories, and fate did make it so that everything would play out in a way where Pinocchio would become a real boy and give Geppetto a son whether that be through Pinocchio evolving into a real boy through his experiences and growth and Geppetto turning him into a “real boy”. Some of things just can’t be coincidence as I don’t think it’s explained how people are able to tell who’s Ergo is what and how Geppetto would be able to acquire Carlo’s Ergo and implant it into Pinocchio. Also I don’t know where you got that the adventures of Pinocchio was Carlo’s favorite story. I’m pretty sure it’s Geppetto’s since it would serve as inspiration for him to create the puppets
My theory on the possible identity of the broken puppet: *Spoilers Ahead* Now maybe the Broken Puppet that Pinocchio is explaining the various emotions he’s experiencing could possibly be “Tin Man” since he isn’t specifically named as such. There were many parallels drawn between The Broken Puppet and Tin Man. For example when P discusses love and if it’s possible puppets and humans could love each other. Also when P emotes what anger is and TBP realizes that feeling anger because someone was violent or hurt the people you love and care about and want to stand up for could also be bravery. Not to mention how TBP is unable to physically move because he is fallen on the ground and unable to move along the wall of the cave next to the Barren Swamp Stargazer. I guess we won’t really know unless the devs decide to go forward with the Dorothy /Wizard of Oz IP based of the secret ending of the game.
Probably because the Tin Man and Scarecrow references were a bit of a stretch and probably not correct. The Beauty and the Best one was also a bit of a stretch. Some of these theories seemed good, like the Mad Hatter and Snow White, but others seemed silly.
Would you please talk about how Geppetto and Manus are 2 sides of the same coin. Time travel is already confirmed so them being the same person or at least related is super obvious. Just look at their models. Both have blue eys and same style beard. Geppettos right eyes is covered while the left is exposed while Manus is the opposite with his left eye having a scar. Geppetto tells Carlo not to lie and Manus also hates lieing. Geppetto had a son Manus had a daughter. There are more Suttle hints but I believe they are the same person but from different dimensions.
I believe you aren't Pinocchio but actually the Tinman due to your mechanical heart. Also throught the game you're never called Pinocchio. Lot's of theories and a fun game 👍
While I don’t agree on the whole “Geppetto wished so hard he ended up creating Krat as a means to revive his son” angle you were proposing. I do agree that Geppetto wishing hard enough for it did allow for things to fall into place that his wish could be granted. Pinocchio DOES have Carlo’s Ergo inside him and thus, possesses Caro’s dormant memories, and fate did make it so that everything would play out in a way where Pinocchio would become a real boy and give Geppetto a son whether that be through Pinocchio evolving into a real boy through his experiences and growth and Geppetto turning him into a “real boy”. Some of things just can’t be coincidence as I don’t think it’s explained how people are able to tell who’s Ergo is what and how Geppetto would be able to acquire Carlo’s Ergo and implant it into Pinocchio. Also I don’t know where you got that the adventures of Pinocchio was Carlo’s favorite story. I’m pretty sure it’s Geppetto’s since it would serve as inspiration for him to create the puppets
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Is the Easter egg in the thumbnail that P has a golden left eye?
The picture of Carlo among the various fairytale people
The painting of carlo at the top?
P’s golden eye was my first guess
I would say Pinocchio's eye, but i honestly don't understand the reference
Whoever at the Korean studio thought of Fairy Tale Souls deserves a massive pay rise
The universe that they’re setting up here could very well rival the Souls series. Fairytale Souls has so much potential, it’s nuts no one thought of it before now.
My jaw literally dropped when I saw that post credit scenes it’s been a while since a game had me like that
No one does fairytales unless their on drugs, this is why it's great and a crazy challenge.
Souls has a universe? Usually, every game is its own thing. I think only darksouls and darksouls 3 are related
@@naturalfitness-1the dlc in 3 kinda implies that Bloodborne is a world made from a painting of blood.
Souls like brothers grim would be extremely legit if done right
Adelina’s Sister is also the legendary stalker known as The White Lady. Adelina poisoned her sister to steal the spotlight, it is possible that Adelina is not Snow White but perhaps her sister. Adelina is the evil queen who upon learning that her sister was he fairest of them all, decided to poison her in jealousy. The Apple is a form of poetic Justice because of what Adelina did to her sister, the White Lady, Snow White.
SNOW WHITE AND ROSE RED!
Damn, that’s actually spot on. Good job!
@@braxinIV thank you!
Good catch.
Damn that makes so much sense, she is indeed completely white and called white lady! Very very true
Thanks for actually covering this game. I’m quite disappointed by how little story & lore coverage this game got by the larger souls TH-cam community. Great video!
Champion Victor is probably a reference to Frankenstein; he's probably named after the titular doctor.
100% and the Swamp Monster is a direct nod to the swamp creatures from various folklore like the Rougarou(Louisiana), the Moss Man and Skunk Ape(Florida). Or even the Babau in Italian folklore. Also the "Swamp/Man Thing" in comics.
Not a "fairytale" for some but Simon Manus is also a direct link to the presumed "father" of Gnosticism "Simon Magus" (known mainly as Simon the Zealot) from the Bible.
With the Sefirot surrounding the stage and his connection to God, it makes sense.
Simon Manus in boss form could also be huge nods to the Solomon Grundy nursery rhyme and the DC comic character.
Lastly, Sophia is a being in Gnosticism. Sophia in Greek means "wisdom" and is an "aeon" (basically a supernatural being like an angel, which aligns perfectly in game), come to think of it, theres a lot of occult references ingame
True, also a clear reference to Bane from Batman, specially his phase 2 transformation.
when your heart starts to pound for the first time, Carlo will start grunting and shouting when attacking and most of the spring noises will be gone as well as his jerking will be much less than before. also, when he dies, he will be starting to try getting up to fight on or moan from the pain he endures as opposed to just flopping to the ground before he gained humanity.
The idea of Adelina making sacrifices and having a beautiful singing voice makes me think of Ariel, The Little Mermaid as well
More like Snow White
Great content, I’m almost through my first play through, Neowiz is special, can’t wait to see what they cook up!!
It’s crazy that this is their second game ever they have a bright future ahead of them fr
It actually gets better in ng+ or even doing a new character believe it or not
@@Bulbaf3ttlet us hope a company like EA or someone else does not ruin them
I'd love to see a Peter Pan game that blends the gameplay of Souls games, Devil May Cry, and Kingdom Hearts as a great experience. Other fairy tales developers could use are Aladdin, Wizard of Oz, Dorian Gray, Hansel and Gretel, Red Riding Hood, Jack and the Bean Stalk, Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, and The Happy Prince.
the Swamp Monster is a direct nod to the swamp creatures from various folklore like the Rougarou(Louisiana), the Moss Man and Skunk Ape(Florida). Or even the Babau in Italian folklore. Also Swamp Thing and Man Thing in superhero comics.
Not a "fairytale" for some but Simon Manus is also a direct link to the presumed "father" of Gnosticism "Simon Magus" (known mainly as Simon the Zealot) from the Bible.
With the Sefirot surrounding the stage and his connection to God, it makes sense.
Simon Manus in boss form could also be huge nods to the Solomon Grundy nursery rhyme and physically resembles the DC Comics Solomon Grundy.
I think I found yet another fairytale easter egg, IMO the nun Cecile and the Archbishop are based on the Princess and the Frog, that's why both of them turn creatures with frog like features, the Archbishop has frog legs and a frog tongue, and the nun Cecile turns into a frog like creature if you don't get her the Archbishop Mark before you defeat the Archbishop.
Also while Victor is a clear reference to Victor Frankenstein he can also be considered a reference to Bane from Batman who gets injected with a fluid to enhance his strength (which Victor does in his phase 2), there are in fact several Batman easter eggs in the game, Venigni origin story is like Batman's (and he has a loyal butler), Arlecchino is a lot like a cross between the Joker and the Riddler, and there are Harlequin enemies in the game (the clown enemies that explode, a possible reference Harley Quinn), there is clearly a huge fan of Batman on the team of devs at Round8.
You’re going to love the next video my friend! 🦇
I think you’re reaching a little bit there
@elliottwright2763 I don't think so, they were quite explicit that most of the story and sidequests were inspired by fairytales, there are a ton of obvious references to all kinds of well-known stories eventhough they aren't mentioned in name, Beauty & The Beast, Snow White, etc.
@@AscendantStoic I see what you mean I noticed a Snow White reference myself and beauty n the beast but I do get the similarities to arlechinno and riddler/ enigma especially his cunning voice and attitude.
Formula for a good game: Good story + Good movement + Good gameplay + Different/Innovative enought to draw you in. Lies of P my game of the year tbh
Really nice 👍 looking for more of Your content mate, I thought I've had a good grasp of the lore but thanks to these videos it seems there is so much more to be discovered! Keep it up and if You ever feel like it I'd be hard pressed to watch a longer format video by yourself 👌🎩
I haven’t even finished the game yet and I am already down the rabbit hole of the lore. I know it won’t even be considered for it, but in my opinion Lies of P wins game of the year.
I agree, it blew my mind. By far the best soulslike ever made, and imo even better than some of FromSoftwares own games
I really want to see Red Ridinghood-Souls down the line
Keep up the great work!! Would love to see more Lies of P vids
Working on one as we speak!
wow I did not finder see the women for the beauty and the beast reference once again you are showing something new great work as always. and the easter eggs are spot on and I didn't even notice.
The biggest reason I don’t think that Krat is Gepetto’s toy box is because in the cannon ending (Rise of P), his son does come back (Puppet becomes human) but his most likely desire would be as he states, a world without terror against Carlo. Instead, he purposely set up the puppet frenzy in order to strengthen the Clever One’s heart and then take it to put into the Nameless Puppet (which is made partially from Carlo’s dead body). It was all an elaborate plan in a world that wasn’t set up for him but his genius and influence makes it possible until the clever one does not conform. Now Dorothy is a whole different can of worms!😂
For real though, I’ve been loving your videos!
Carlo is the Tinman. His heart feels warm when he lies.
You forgot to mention champion victor as a direct reference to Victor Frankenstein
It's very rare that I look at an idea or world for a game and go "That's fucking sick as hell". That happened 600 times in Lies of P. God tier game.
I’m currently in the final level, and The carcasses that fall out of the cages remind me of the skating monkeys in Return To Oz. They’re probably in other locations, but this was the first time I noticed the similarities
You can find Sherlock homes address 221b near the Inside the house on Elysion Boulevard Stargrazer
An alice in wonderland game would go crazy. Obviously theyre doing wizard of oz next, but they could do a whole franchise. Maybe even an anthology with charcters that maybe couldnt fill an entire gamd (little red riding hood, hansel and gretel, goldilocks)
I think Adelina dies because of the explosion that releases Romeo from inside the King of Puppets. And that is why later the White Lady blames you for killing her sister.
You fave off with the White Lady first, before you even reach the opera house. Adelina was dying from the petrification disease, the blast from the explosion didn’t harm anyone.
The "finger of god" that come down and touches the final boss is clearly a reference to the 1990s film Twister. FACT
I think you forgot victor as in victor frankenstein and the jeckle and hyde for the final boss. Even though its a reach it really did remind me of dr jeckle and mr hyde
Sophia can be considered sleeping beauty, since she is trapped in a tower and she looks like she is sleeping
Bro, the Star Fragments using a "wish" is a reference to 'When You Wish Upon A Star,' a song from Disney's Pinnochio. It ain't that deep lmao.
exactly
I JUST REALIZED THAT THE LITTLE BUG IN THE BOTTLE IS EITHER JIMMEY CRICKET!!!
This is really good 👍
2:01 Damn: I'm Belgian and didn't even think of the meaning of "Krat" like that. I feel stupid now xD
great stuff
Anyone knows what Laxasia is based on?
So far my only clue is that her armor resembles a faraday cage, which ties to her electrical powers
I’m guessing the Easter egg is the Carlo Painting hidden behind the beauty and the beast?
No, but excellent guess!
What if the guy P..however you say his name..the guy seeking immortality..is a future Carlo?
A deep in the future Carlo. The hair length matches the Specter who is already likely a future Carlo.
So Stingy Jack would be the scarecrow.
While I don’t agree on the whole “Geppetto wished so hard he ended up creating Krat as a means to revive his son” angle you were proposing. I do agree that Geppetto wishing hard enough for it did allow for things to fall into place that his wish could be granted. Pinocchio DOES have Carlo’s Ergo inside him and thus, possesses Caro’s dormant memories, and fate did make it so that everything would play out in a way where Pinocchio would become a real boy and give Geppetto a son whether that be through Pinocchio evolving into a real boy through his experiences and growth and Geppetto turning him into a “real boy”. Some of things just can’t be coincidence as I don’t think it’s explained how people are able to tell who’s Ergo is what and how Geppetto would be able to acquire Carlo’s Ergo and implant it into Pinocchio.
Also I don’t know where you got that the adventures of Pinocchio was Carlo’s favorite story. I’m pretty sure it’s Geppetto’s since it would serve as inspiration for him to create the puppets
My theory on the possible identity of the broken puppet:
*Spoilers Ahead*
Now maybe the Broken Puppet that Pinocchio is explaining the various emotions he’s experiencing could possibly be “Tin Man” since he isn’t specifically named as such. There were many parallels drawn between The Broken Puppet and Tin Man. For example when P discusses love and if it’s possible puppets and humans could love each other. Also when P emotes what anger is and TBP realizes that feeling anger because someone was violent or hurt the people you love and care about and want to stand up for could also be bravery. Not to mention how TBP is unable to physically move because he is fallen on the ground and unable to move along the wall of the cave next to the Barren Swamp Stargazer.
I guess we won’t really know unless the devs decide to go forward with the Dorothy /Wizard of Oz IP based of the secret ending of the game.
This is a stretch but, is one of p’s eyes golden the easter egg??
The Picture of Dorian Grey isn’t really a fairy tale, but I understand what you are saying.
Laxasia-Malenia lol
Hey, the inhuman one, I have a theory that sophia is actually the sleeping beauty.
I think the broken puppet would match the scarecrow better and the last boss you fight would be tin man cause geppetto wants your heart to give to it.
Carlos painting in the top right
There is a portrait of carlo in the thumbnail
Huh, never would've thought that The Broken Puppet and 826 could be references to the Tin Man and Scarecrow. Shame there is no Lion NPC
Probably because the Tin Man and Scarecrow references were a bit of a stretch and probably not correct. The Beauty and the Best one was also a bit of a stretch. Some of these theories seemed good, like the Mad Hatter and Snow White, but others seemed silly.
Easter egg Pinocchio's eye is yellow
⭐️Correct. Technically, they are brown like Carlo’s eyes in the Real Boy ending. Great catch!
Nice
One of P's eyes is yellow
Would you please talk about how Geppetto and Manus are 2 sides of the same coin. Time travel is already confirmed so them being the same person or at least related is super obvious. Just look at their models. Both have blue eys and same style beard. Geppettos right eyes is covered while the left is exposed while Manus is the opposite with his left eye having a scar. Geppetto tells Carlo not to lie and Manus also hates lieing. Geppetto had a son Manus had a daughter. There are more Suttle hints but I believe they are the same person but from different dimensions.
Give me Alice in wonderland souls game lol.
I like ya vids but some of these are a reach 😂
I believe you aren't Pinocchio but actually the Tinman due to your mechanical heart. Also throught the game you're never called Pinocchio. Lot's of theories and a fun game 👍
Alice in Wonderland??
While I don’t agree on the whole “Geppetto wished so hard he ended up creating Krat as a means to revive his son” angle you were proposing. I do agree that Geppetto wishing hard enough for it did allow for things to fall into place that his wish could be granted. Pinocchio DOES have Carlo’s Ergo inside him and thus, possesses Caro’s dormant memories, and fate did make it so that everything would play out in a way where Pinocchio would become a real boy and give Geppetto a son whether that be through Pinocchio evolving into a real boy through his experiences and growth and Geppetto turning him into a “real boy”. Some of things just can’t be coincidence as I don’t think it’s explained how people are able to tell who’s Ergo is what and how Geppetto would be able to acquire Carlo’s Ergo and implant it into Pinocchio.
Also I don’t know where you got that the adventures of Pinocchio was Carlo’s favorite story. I’m pretty sure it’s Geppetto’s since it would serve as inspiration for him to create the puppets
I think the Golden Lie weapon says that Carlo as a child loved the story of the puppet