As a ref for paintball i do agree but there's often a lot going on so you have to trust the people that have experience and know what their doing to make the game run at all.
@@tntboom234_3 I have a lot of respect for you. And other airsoft and paintball refs. I know I wouldn’t want to be a ref cause there’s so much that goes on everywhere and I’m very oblivious to obvious things sometimes. I’m sure you guys get a lot of rude people and ones that are hard to deal with, especially with how competitive airsoft and paintball can be.
Like tntboom234, I was a paintball ref, though in Ontario years back and it is really difficult to call out cheaters unless you see it happening. When you have a field with 30ish players all running around inside and around buildings with foliage blocking your field of view further it is nearly impossible. That's even considering that paint leaves a discernable mark. We've all heard the usual bullshit, "It was a ricochet, it bounced, I didn't feel it, etc etc." Then you are left with the decision to call that player a liar or to tell the one making the complaint that they may have been mistaken (not even bothering to mention that sore losers also make accusations about the better/luckier player being a cheater). Then there's also the consideration that it's a business and calling your customers liars and cheaters, even if you don't say those words, is generally frowned upon. Again, unless you CATCH them. Don't go blaming the ref's because they are not omnipotent. And as for the ref testing, Dutch said it best himself. Guilty minds are the loudest. We know that Dutch has not deliberately failed to call a hit but do they? With this video there is an abundance of evidence to the cheating, which was always a requirement so the field should ban him but never based on another players complaint, even if that player is a prolific airsoft youtuber.
@@handsinthefire Fair point, however that doesn't really help anyone at the time. A ref is not going to bust out a laptop and download the footage at work. Now if they see this then do nothing we have a problem and it should be addressed.
Honestly it must have been so reaffirming when that kid said how fun your videos are right after you chose to be the adult. Way more rewarding than any outcome getting into it with that guy would have been. Props.
The urge to mag-dump at point blank range is getting me 2 years later and a long distance away. I am so glad (and proud of you) for being a better man than I would have. You are truly an inspiration to current and future airsofters. Mad respect, my dude. Mad respect.
Like that one clip of the guy who had enough of that cheater and dumped a full auto mag into him point blank, then proceeded to let himself get banned because the park was allowing the cheater to continue playing even after confronting management.
Good on you for just walking away. Clearly that guy knew what he was doing as to why he was so defensive and wanting to start something with you. Regardless of how you felt, you did the right thing. Proud of that.
The emotional maturity shown at the end of this video is something to behold. What a truly brilliant role model you are for younger and newer players. Well done, Dutch!
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Guy Cheats Multiple complaints Refs don't do anything Dutch: "Fine I'll do it myself" *Domination Mode Activated* The hardest decisions require the strongest of wills.
Ya I don't understand why the fuck they're even there if they won't enforce any rules. I would have walked away after that and never went back to that field.
What's the point in my opinion instead of having shity refs, why not get the person that owns the field & get rid of the bad refs that don't want to do there job
Yea, i got the feeling the refs are scared of the cheater, friends of his, or his employees, as in 'its his field'. Idk, but what i do kbow is this, hes fkn pathetic
So clearly the cheater and refs are friends. They "can't" do anything about the cheater but will fire test you? They even got another complaint about him. It's literally the only way I can think that would make the refs not do anything about the cheater.
Yeah, if you are going yo be a ref in any game from airsoft to football, icen if you are the best est of friends with the guy you have to be be a neutral fair referee that allows everyone to have fun
I used to be a delta force paintball marshal and I can tell you from having worked on a lot of sites across the South East there are a lot of refs/marshals who just can't be bothered to do their jobs because they're lazy, if it had been me that guy would've had his cheating arse booted off site
Had this happen to a buddy of mine. He had a guy not calling his hits, the dude cheating ended up getting banned for life and the ref was fired after my friend showed video proof.
What i’m confused about is, if they even carried out the test fire, would they have banned dutch? It seems like they just don’t want to ban anyone so why bother?
I wish I handled situations more like you lol. It’s very good to see that you just walked away instead of giving him the attention he wanted. Very mature, and you just got a new subscriber :)
I gotta say though - for a first timer? The best I’ve ever seen. Solid movement, awareness, and tactics. The extra gunskill that often makes a difference in killcount just comes with practice but the man has some serious foundation. A solid 8+ kills, and arguably the play of the day!
@@DutchTheHooligan I would be tempted to agree! That was amazing and especially the fact that again he was clearly having the time of his life I'd love to see more of him
@@EthanolEnthusiast well yeah that's the point. He hasn't had the practice we are used to watching on this channel, yet it's just as entertaining. That's the part I'm highlighting.
The fact the cheaters friend walked up to apologize instead of the guy himself shows what type of person he is much respect for him 👍🏽 Sick video btw keep em coming Dutch !
But it still amazes me how people lie even in paintball, harder but they do, wipe off paint, say it's old paint, I hate to deal with cheaters in fps games, thought I wouldn't have that problem I'm airsoft or paintball but there's cheaters everywhere
With paintball you also.. Really feel it when u get hit. I never played airsoft so I kinda wonder how much you are gonna feel the bb's when dressed up in gear like that?
I respect you so much dude. Super responsible to talk yourself down instead of both of you getting more angry. Love the vid and it even has a good lesson to learn.
Dutch: *Pointing out blatant cheating to the ref* Ref: "Cheaters man yeah I didn't even notice" *Proceeds to do nothing* As a ref I hate when other refs don't do anything about a problem especially when it's so blatant. Sometimes there really is nothing you can do but these refs were terrible.
somehow, I feel a repeat of that scene from "The Longest Yard" (starring Adam Sandler & Burt Reynolds) where there was a bent ref (albeit adapted to the airsoft context) would be justified when dealing with slack/useless airsoft refs
If they can't do anything about cheating why you there that's literally your job I can only think of two reasons why you couldn't do anything if it's your friend or your lazy cheating is cheating if you didn't see it then watch the guy closely it's not that hard
I know this is from 7 months ago, but bro!! This interaction would have gone sideways fast here in Texas. Good for you for not losing your mind. It must likely doesn't mean much fun a stranger, but I'm proud of you. Your a bigger man than most.
Facts!! I’m from Texas as well and there definitely would have been confrontation. Everybody would have know my stance on him, and I wouldn’t back down until he was shut down.
21:37 "I'm still putting it on TH-cam" Good call, you don't hide the bs some people do but by showing the apology from his friend you also show that there's good in the community. Having it all here was a good decision.
That’s my policy. If the offender himself apologizes, they’re chill and I would not post it as a cheater video. Otherwise, it becomes a “cheater video”. Either way, I post what happens in the gameplay. Their mentality dictate the title & theme.
I don’t know if I just missed a bunch or not but this is the first time I’ve seen a Dutch video in a while and literally jumped off my chair when I got the notification 😂
I have a common routine to go into all the youtubers channels to see if i have missed anything. So far i havent and i would never want to miss out on any of dutch's videos
When Dutch gets mad, he is INHUMAN on that trigger finger!!!!! Absolutely respect the hell out of you for not causing a scene in front of the younger player too. We all know he’s a cheater, he knows he’s a cheater, and we get to watch amazing content that shows the world to NOT be a cheater!
Not only were you the bigger person, you valued the right people and the right things. By walking away from a negative situation, instead of escalating it, you allowed yourself to be approachable to your fans and other fun players of the airsoft community. You gained much more positive experiences and good times from them, and even better, you share it back by continuing to play and have fun with your friends, even making these videos for others to enjoy. You may feel bad about the moments you let the temper get the better of you but we're all human and you call yourself out on it which is still valuable to your viewers and the kids learning about the morals of proper sportsmanship. Much respect, best wishes, and a subscribe for you good sir. May you have a wonderful day and holidays.
I don't think so. Cheater videos have made a negative impact on airsoft and scare new players from playing. When in fact, cheaters are generally rare and without newer, younger players, the hobby won't grow/remain popular.
That ref knew Who it was, got multiple complaints about the same guy and thought to himself "it's not my problem" the ref should have been fired and the cheater should have been kicked out of the field and shouldn't be allowed to return until he apologized to the staff and the players
What a class act you are my guy, setting a good example for everyone in the sport, everyone who looks up to you and anyone who's looking to get into it! I got no time for anyone who doesn't want to play fair and make it an enjoyable experience for everyone involved so big respect to you for being the bigger man!💪👊 Been binge watching your videos and I love them! Keep doing what you're doing!🤙
Once you've become frustrated it's usually a good idea to take a break or even stop for the day. It's better than doing something you'll end up regretting latter.
Though not airsoft related, it's always good to keep your temper. Make a decision you'd be fine with if you were calm. Kept me out of prison at least twice.
@@austinmartinez2312 How would they ban him? They already admitted can't do anything about the cheater caught on camera, so they obviously don't have the power to ban him either.
Honestly, seeing videos like this makes me think everyone should have three cameras on them. If I owned a field, I would almost require you to have at least one camera on you so this exact thing doesn't happen. Refs can't be everywhere (and these guys seemed to be nowhere) to make people play fair and just the knowledge that everyone is recording and being recorded is enough to keep MOST people honest.
Fair play Dutch. It's refreshing to see a youtuber promoting sensibility over confrontation. Keep up the good work. It's behaviour like this that should be at the forefront of the search engine rather than rage fights and mag dumping. 👍👍👍
Have had plenty of encounters with those guys in grey they’re locals to Santa Clarita they call themselves the reaper squad ! Wow so cool love that you walked away good sportsmanship can’t tell you how many times they’ve cause arguments on the field
Your so cool! When you talked about people that look up to you I am one of those people. I’ve only been watching your videos for a small amount of time but I respect you, the way you play, and the decisions you make when it comes to cheaters or just the game. Keep up the good work man!👍🏻
Every time I stumble across your content, I ask myself, "Why isn't this a world recognized sport yet?" Can you imagine ex militants from all over the globe going at it, representing their countries in like the olympics or something. Shit would be crazy.
Mad credit to the times you slowed it to 1 shot on the unexpecting. Very kind. And for all the " Bang Bang" close range peeps. Good to see the kindness and control.
Used to play Airsoft and Paintball quite frequently but I never stumbled onto a channel like this until today. Well shot, stabilized and cut together, with really nice editing to keep the audience knowing whats going on. Fuck cheaters but also good on you for keeping your cool 🤙🏻
Worst refs ever. I hope you complain to the organizers, it wouldn't at all be a Karen move. Karen's complain to get what they want, while strong folk stand up to abuse especially when it involves others. If I had to guess, it seems as though he was getting special treatment or at least I hope so because otherwise those refs are the most incompetent, spineless, idiots in the sport. I ran an 8v8 group in HS to raise money for "extracurriculars," and I know that the difference between a fun time and a bad time is the refs/organizers. I believe anyone would rather lose 3 games in a row fairly than have a back and forth where everyone is frustrated (silently or otherwise.)
Sometimes these player pools are close nit. Meaning family friends etc. The ref in question might know the dude irl and didn't want to sledgehammer him.
Dutch, you're a good dude. Respect for the restraint you showed. I'm a "big guy" also and likely would have served up what ever he was asking for. Some time those fake "tough guys" need to be checked. Hope one day soon someone checks that fool, he needs it. Best
Damn straight! If they're going to cheat then they deserve all harm that Dutch hits them with! Now I do not and will not wish harm upon them or anyone else, BUUUUUUUUUT they do deserve it! The refs deserve it too! It's literally they're JOB to ban the cheaters and to keep the game fair! Final thing, BIIIG respect going out towards the cheaters friend! That's acting your age!
I do feel bad for Micah on his first day to encounter one of the biggest type of douchebags in this sport. It can give him the wrong impression of how fun Airsoft can be when everybody is playing like they should. And he needs to adjust his hop up a bit :). And regarding the cheater, yes. You did handle it professionally. You did called it out, frustrated, but you did do the right thing. And yes, they all looked the same because it looks like they're in one team. But in my opinion, if you play on a field where the referee cannot do anything about cheaters, I would do exactly the same thing or pack up my kit and go. Because if the referee's or admins or marshalls cannot/will not do anything, it means they're not competent and that can ruin your entire day. Also respect for one of their team to appologize on his behalf. That's real sportsmanship, right there.
heavily overlooked aspect of your skill set is your ability to switch firing hands going from left shoulder to right shoulder consistently and still aiming accurately its a skill that not many people have(I can shoot both but most people i've shot with can't)
@@nathanflinchum1153 Dutch goes to a bunch of fields and always gets accused of cheating, while also just happening to find nothing but cheaters. “Birds of a feather”. Very often though he’ll wiff a shot or do a bunch of gun hits then cry. I like Dutch, but he’s the same guy that he’s recording
@@scottedwards3403 I think he goes to certain fields that are know to have cheaters and passive refs to get content, I wouldn't like to do it but he's a content creator so
@@MAsOCLisMO what about all the accusations he has for cheating? I mean if we’re taking a zoomed out angle of a bb ‘hitting’ a guy at 200ft, we’ve also got to have an ear for the guys on the forums and the comment sections accusing him
An incredible attitude, Dutch. And the teammate who came and apologized? You're both legends! I'm so glad I watched this video 'til the end, these are some players to learn from. Thank you for uploading this🤘
I like your logic. When a cheater gets on your nerves and try’s to fight you, you take up with ref. When that don’t work, you sweat the hell out of the other team taking no chances on who might be cheating and who deserves merciful semi auto.
ive never played airsoft in my life but seeing how Dutch handled things made me interested in it even with the cheaters. Very respectful and acted like a true man.
your friend micah's great play for the first time, I LOVE the sweep you do on the floor. The guy KNEW he was cheating by giving himself away just by asking "DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY?" Too bad there are people who can't separate the game from the pride
Pie'ng it off with standoff from the wall is something that you have mastered, along with the effective use of a single point sling, ambidextrous shooting. Well done
That one looks like a cool field, too! I like your reasoning for not arguing with the guy. Not only will it not do anything, but you referenced that there are kids there watching y’all. Classy move. Also, the “cheater’s friend” who apologize at the end had some sweet kit.
A part of me really, REALLY wants to see you just let this guy have it. But at the end of the day, I respect the hell out of you keeping a level head in front of younger guys out there and being a good example. Sportsmanship matters!
DUDE I could hear your anger in your narration when this video started. you know sh*ts about to get real. Always lovin' your upmost honest, straightforward, genuine and sick gameplay!
The grenades you have after you use them are they recoverable? Also I've watched your channel for a couple years now your probably the most honest airsoft player I've seen and you have great sportsmanship
@old man strength Since 2007, on and off. I'm in the UK, and all of the sites I've played at here, which is a fair number, all rule that gun hits count. Clearly things are different in the states.
Man I wish, I go to this field often and the refs never do anything about it. Just today I had to deal with cheaters on the hill that would never call their hits. It’s whatever I guess, you learn to get past it. It just sucks that’s something we have to deal with.
Something I've always respected and admired about your approach to airsoft is how you see yourself as the example. So many people who are "adults" in todays society don't want to take action for their own mistakes, and seeing you be such a friendly and approachable person in the sport is really refreshing. So thank you
Hey Dutch, sorry you had to experience that. Unfortuantely, I'd have to say the same for WarpedOps, that I haven't had a good experience with the staff there. Always special treatment for the refs friends, and they treated everyone else with disrespect. As a ex-ref, they should have done something.
I just love how there's all these whacky intense plays throughout the video And then there's this one 13:52 The simplicity of just "see man, shoot man, man out" made me laugh more than I think it should've.
@Dutch The Hooligan man real quick for someone ive never met i respect you alot in this video. i dont know how to explain it without soundign over the top and wierd but so rarely do i see your level of maturity anywerhe. id have a really hard time keeping my mouth shut with that one guy when he challenged you. im a natrual hothead and its taken me years to learn barking back makes it worse. but that guy was awful. seriously great content. good luck to you man.
he didnt apologize for his friend’s cheating, he apologized for his friend stepping up to you. thats not the same. he still got clapped 10 times and didnt call it. i’d have been furious. and i dont even airsoft.
Your type of furious is funny. You sound like the Zach Bagans of airsoft 😅. That being said only 2nd video in and I've already subscribed. Your outlook on situations and ability to refrain from unnecessary drama is refreshing. It really is. Thanks.
I've drove by this airsoft/paintball field countless times on my way to LA and always wondered how the action would be. Thanks for posting this video. It looks fun.
Respect for the guy at the end, but better than him, it was when dutch didn't complain about the cheater when he asked if dutch wanted to say anything, ignore them, it's worst than answer them, and you, dutch myfriend, you did good!! You've got my respect there!!
This guy's game play is always next level. Thanks Dutch for always bringing us top notch content!! Definitely if I was in your shoes there I wouldn't have been so cool about it. Good job!!
Dutch man thanks for your videos. I'm a war veteran out of comission stuck in the house with a bad sickness. Watching you use maximum efficiency and stuff totally awesome. All I can do is pay Arma 3 on a good health day.
@@cy-one there's many reasons people don't play. Lack of money to rent gear, lack of a field near them, worried to go alone as friends dont want to go, ect
I love the drastic difference between Dutch and Micah. You can hear Micah's stressed breathing and his adrenaline is pumping, whereas Dutch is much calmer as he's done this ton of times. Really great video, can't wait to see more ^^
I’m gonna be honest, airsoft matches are just ASMR. I’m new to these videos, but man, it sure does look awesome!! I’d love to try this out. And good video!
Welcome back to TH-cam land - it’s been a hot minute! I hope that this is an indication that your health has improved and that you have either solved or are working on that head/vision issue. Anyway, it is good to see you out shooting fools and having fun ✌️
Every game of Airsoft will have cheaters, the real failing here was with the refs
As a ref for paintball i do agree but there's often a lot going on so you have to trust the people that have experience and know what their doing to make the game run at all.
@@tntboom234_3 I have a lot of respect for you. And other airsoft and paintball refs. I know I wouldn’t want to be a ref cause there’s so much that goes on everywhere and I’m very oblivious to obvious things sometimes. I’m sure you guys get a lot of rude people and ones that are hard to deal with, especially with how competitive airsoft and paintball can be.
Like tntboom234, I was a paintball ref, though in Ontario years back and it is really difficult to call out cheaters unless you see it happening. When you have a field with 30ish players all running around inside and around buildings with foliage blocking your field of view further it is nearly impossible. That's even considering that paint leaves a discernable mark. We've all heard the usual bullshit, "It was a ricochet, it bounced, I didn't feel it, etc etc." Then you are left with the decision to call that player a liar or to tell the one making the complaint that they may have been mistaken (not even bothering to mention that sore losers also make accusations about the better/luckier player being a cheater). Then there's also the consideration that it's a business and calling your customers liars and cheaters, even if you don't say those words, is generally frowned upon. Again, unless you CATCH them. Don't go blaming the ref's because they are not omnipotent. And as for the ref testing, Dutch said it best himself. Guilty minds are the loudest. We know that Dutch has not deliberately failed to call a hit but do they? With this video there is an abundance of evidence to the cheating, which was always a requirement so the field should ban him but never based on another players complaint, even if that player is a prolific airsoft youtuber.
@@nicleeder They're not omnipotent..and that's why people started wearing cams.
@@handsinthefire Fair point, however that doesn't really help anyone at the time. A ref is not going to bust out a laptop and download the footage at work. Now if they see this then do nothing we have a problem and it should be addressed.
Honestly it must have been so reaffirming when that kid said how fun your videos are right after you chose to be the adult. Way more rewarding than any outcome getting into it with that guy would have been. Props.
The urge to mag-dump at point blank range is getting me 2 years later and a long distance away. I am so glad (and proud of you) for being a better man than I would have. You are truly an inspiration to current and future airsofters.
Mad respect, my dude. Mad respect.
Like that one clip of the guy who had enough of that cheater and dumped a full auto mag into him point blank, then proceeded to let himself get banned because the park was allowing the cheater to continue playing even after confronting management.
Good on you for just walking away. Clearly that guy knew what he was doing as to why he was so defensive and wanting to start something with you. Regardless of how you felt, you did the right thing. Proud of that.
I’m not sure what I
It has been so long sense ⟟ watched one of your fgn vids you still doing those
i wasn’t really expecting to see you here lmao been watching since 2015
Holy crap I never thought you’d be here. I’ve watched your videos for like 8 years
Bere i love your family game night videos also I didn't expect to see you here but I kinda did at the same time
I love how he literally KNOWS why you were looking at him lmao
The emotional maturity shown at the end of this video is something to behold. What a truly brilliant role model you are for younger and newer players. Well done, Dutch!
Bit of an update: I’m building my new computer. It is one of the bigger reasons that it’s taking me so long to post, since my old computer was too laggy and slow editing these videos. YOU CAN EXPECT MORE FREQUENT VIDEOS MOVING FORWARD! Aiming for at LEAST 2 per month, ideally weekly. I’ll keep you posted on that in my new vid as soon as I see how much of an improvement is made in my workflow!
Nice, I just built a new one last year. Intel i7 9700k w m.2 solid state drive.
May u please pin this
Good, not many TH-camrs worth watching, be nice to see more from one that is.
Awesome! If you’re ever out in Arizona I’d love to link up.
Thanks
Guy Cheats
Multiple complaints
Refs don't do anything
Dutch: "Fine I'll do it myself" *Domination Mode Activated*
The hardest decisions require the strongest of wills.
I know what I have to do but I don't know if I have the strength to do it
Thought I hear doom music playing
Hanz, vhat are you doing? Ze flammenverfer is for emergencies only, and you know that!
They knew it wasn’t Dutch they shot him to prove a point
It helps when he's never taken a single hit, let alone having never lost a match.
I love when Micah got a kill and was like “yeah! Lets go” just the joy he got from that singular kill was just heartwarming to me
"Sorry but we're only refs dude, what do you expect us to do REFEREE or something?"
"We don't make the rules, and will only enforce the silly ones."
Ya I don't understand why the fuck they're even there if they won't enforce any rules. I would have walked away after that and never went back to that field.
What's the point in my opinion instead of having shity refs, why not get the person that owns the field & get rid of the bad refs that don't want to do there job
"He is cheating we don't watch him. But him, he isn't cheating so will watch him."
Yea, i got the feeling the refs are scared of the cheater, friends of his, or his employees, as in 'its his field'. Idk, but what i do kbow is this, hes fkn pathetic
So clearly the cheater and refs are friends. They "can't" do anything about the cheater but will fire test you? They even got another complaint about him. It's literally the only way I can think that would make the refs not do anything about the cheater.
Yeah, if you are going yo be a ref in any game from airsoft to football, icen if you are the best est of friends with the guy you have to be be a neutral fair referee that allows everyone to have fun
I used to be a delta force paintball marshal and I can tell you from having worked on a lot of sites across the South East there are a lot of refs/marshals who just can't be bothered to do their jobs because they're lazy, if it had been me that guy would've had his cheating arse booted off site
Had this happen to a buddy of mine. He had a guy not calling his hits, the dude cheating ended up getting banned for life and the ref was fired after my friend showed video proof.
Ik this was a year ago but he also could have bribed him
What i’m confused about is, if they even carried out the test fire, would they have banned dutch? It seems like they just don’t want to ban anyone so why bother?
I wish I handled situations more like you lol. It’s very good to see that you just walked away instead of giving him the attention he wanted. Very mature, and you just got a new subscriber :)
i second this
"Hell yeah, I got him. Let's go!"
Micah isn't so good to be pro level like Dutch. But God damn he's relatable and just clearly having a great time.
I gotta say though - for a first timer? The best I’ve ever seen. Solid movement, awareness, and tactics. The extra gunskill that often makes a difference in killcount just comes with practice but the man has some serious foundation.
A solid 8+ kills, and arguably the play of the day!
@@DutchTheHooligan I would be tempted to agree! That was amazing and especially the fact that again he was clearly having the time of his life I'd love to see more of him
i mean....who died more i think we know who the superior one is. lmao im just playin....Unless
Isn't so good? It's his first time and Dutch has been playing 15 years.. Good comparison.
@@EthanolEnthusiast well yeah that's the point. He hasn't had the practice we are used to watching on this channel, yet it's just as entertaining. That's the part I'm highlighting.
The fact the cheaters friend walked up to apologize instead of the guy himself shows what type of person he is much respect for him 👍🏽 Sick video btw keep em coming Dutch !
I would not have the calmness for cheaters. You handled this better than I would, and I salute ya. You got respect, dude.
Dude Micah's game play was aggressive af! Good game man!
Yea it was bro...he was pressing those boys👊
That’s how you have the most fun
And he was breathing so heavy
He gotta fix that hop up though
Dutch, and micha. Coincidence? I think not
One of the main reasons i like paintball over airsoft is that paint keeps people more honest.
This
gotta make bbs that burst colored powder on impact
But it still amazes me how people lie even in paintball, harder but they do, wipe off paint, say it's old paint, I hate to deal with cheaters in fps games, thought I wouldn't have that problem I'm airsoft or paintball but there's cheaters everywhere
With paintball you also.. Really feel it when u get hit. I never played airsoft so I kinda wonder how much you are gonna feel the bb's when dressed up in gear like that?
@@itshugh6750 you do fell it or at least, hear it fully
I respect you so much dude. Super responsible to talk yourself down instead of both of you getting more angry. Love the vid and it even has a good lesson to learn.
Dutch: *Pointing out blatant cheating to the ref*
Ref: "Cheaters man yeah I didn't even notice" *Proceeds to do nothing*
As a ref I hate when other refs don't do anything about a problem especially when it's so blatant. Sometimes there really is nothing you can do but these refs were terrible.
Same here I also had a hard time hearing the refs CALL OUT the positions of alive players.
somehow, I feel a repeat of that scene from "The Longest Yard" (starring Adam Sandler & Burt Reynolds) where there was a bent ref (albeit adapted to the airsoft context) would be justified when dealing with slack/useless airsoft refs
Yeah the refs in warped are pretty horrible, and they're unprofessional most of the times.
Great field tho
100% agrree
If they can't do anything about cheating why you there that's literally your job I can only think of two reasons why you couldn't do anything if it's your friend or your lazy cheating is cheating if you didn't see it then watch the guy closely it's not that hard
micah: *hides in foliage*
enemies: *saunter over*
micah: "i'm gonna do what's called a pro gamer move"
"Why are the bushes speaking Vietnamese?"
@@commanderbeepo8066 “Why are those hills yelling in North Korean bro?”
Lmao my name is micah
I know this is from 7 months ago, but bro!! This interaction would have gone sideways fast here in Texas. Good for you for not losing your mind. It must likely doesn't mean much fun a stranger, but I'm proud of you. Your a bigger man than most.
Facts!! I’m from Texas as well and there definitely would have been confrontation. Everybody would have know my stance on him, and I wouldn’t back down until he was shut down.
21:37 "I'm still putting it on TH-cam" Good call, you don't hide the bs some people do but by showing the apology from his friend you also show that there's good in the community. Having it all here was a good decision.
That’s my policy. If the offender himself apologizes, they’re chill and I would not post it as a cheater video. Otherwise, it becomes a “cheater video”. Either way, I post what happens in the gameplay. Their mentality dictate the title & theme.
It's clear this guy doesn't want to start drama this guy clearly loves the community he's quite an awesome guy
polish people are about to spawn under this comment
Walking away like that is something not a lot of people can do. Absolute legend.
Still whines on all his videos though. Pathetic 😂
@@fgk765jkh rage b8 from a low-life, no-video havin' mfer.
crawl back into your hole, scum.
“I respect that guy! … I’m still puttin’ it on TH-cam.” I died.
I don’t know if I just missed a bunch or not but this is the first time I’ve seen a Dutch video in a while and literally jumped off my chair when I got the notification 😂
same
Yessir
Same bruh
I have a common routine to go into all the youtubers channels to see if i have missed anything. So far i havent and i would never want to miss out on any of dutch's videos
Nah it's been a while since his eye problem video but It's always good to see him back
"I'm still putting it on youtube!"
Thats the attitude to have! Cheaters are just free content in the eyes of a wise man.
True tho
When Dutch gets mad, he is INHUMAN on that trigger finger!!!!! Absolutely respect the hell out of you for not causing a scene in front of the younger player too. We all know he’s a cheater, he knows he’s a cheater, and we get to watch amazing content that shows the world to NOT be a cheater!
wait so the ref says "I can't do anything", WHY is he there? Just to use the loud speaker and test fire Dutch?
Not only were you the bigger person, you valued the right people and the right things. By walking away from a negative situation, instead of escalating it, you allowed yourself to be approachable to your fans and other fun players of the airsoft community. You gained much more positive experiences and good times from them, and even better, you share it back by continuing to play and have fun with your friends, even making these videos for others to enjoy.
You may feel bad about the moments you let the temper get the better of you but we're all human and you call yourself out on it which is still valuable to your viewers and the kids learning about the morals of proper sportsmanship.
Much respect, best wishes, and a subscribe for you good sir. May you have a wonderful day and holidays.
As someone who works with kids, Thank you. It's harder to the better person but those young ones are ALWAYS watching. Thank you.
Ya know, I’d absolutely love to see a mash up video of all the cheaters you’ve encountered over the years of playing. Just short clips of each one.
A name and shame montage
I don't think so. Cheater videos have made a negative impact on airsoft and scare new players from playing. When in fact, cheaters are generally rare and without newer, younger players, the hobby won't grow/remain popular.
Show Micah some love! Give him a sub on his Car/IT Channel: th-cam.com/channels/b8T1jExLmgJAXd2MBf0H_Q.html
Wow Mikah really done well!
I sub to micah
That ref knew Who it was, got multiple complaints about the same guy and thought to himself "it's not my problem" the ref should have been fired and the cheater should have been kicked out of the field and shouldn't be allowed to return until he apologized to the staff and the players
Do more with Micah, love to see that man grow in this sport
Dutch and Micah the iconic duo
What a class act you are my guy, setting a good example for everyone in the sport, everyone who looks up to you and anyone who's looking to get into it! I got no time for anyone who doesn't want to play fair and make it an enjoyable experience for everyone involved so big respect to you for being the bigger man!💪👊 Been binge watching your videos and I love them! Keep doing what you're doing!🤙
It takes a bigger man to walk away. Then it does to stand there yelling and wanting to fight.
But he did give Dutch the perfect screenshot for his title card
I don't know man, some people can only learn with the help of good old violence. Clock that guy after the game and he will think twice the next time.
Once you've become frustrated it's usually a good idea to take a break or even stop for the day. It's better than doing something you'll end up regretting latter.
Just dont want to get banned for something so silly to dwell over
Though not airsoft related, it's always good to keep your temper. Make a decision you'd be fine with if you were calm. Kept me out of prison at least twice.
@@austinmartinez2312 How would they ban him? They already admitted can't do anything about the cheater caught on camera, so they obviously don't have the power to ban him either.
Honestly, seeing videos like this makes me think everyone should have three cameras on them. If I owned a field, I would almost require you to have at least one camera on you so this exact thing doesn't happen. Refs can't be everywhere (and these guys seemed to be nowhere) to make people play fair and just the knowledge that everyone is recording and being recorded is enough to keep MOST people honest.
If the refs can't do anything about cheaters, then why are they even there?
to test fire dutch 😎
They're just round timer loudspeakers at that point.
Illegal Use of Full Auto In buildings - Dutch the Holligan Airsoft CHEATER CONFIRMED! (4k)
REEEEEEEEEEE
WHAAAAT
LOL
That's no full auto - this is!
lets all go complain on a forum somewhere XD
Honestly watching this made me so angry why wouldn’t he just call his hit’s this is why society can’t have fun because of people like this
Fair play Dutch. It's refreshing to see a youtuber promoting sensibility over confrontation. Keep up the good work. It's behaviour like this that should be at the forefront of the search engine rather than rage fights and mag dumping. 👍👍👍
Have had plenty of encounters with those guys in grey they’re locals to Santa Clarita they call themselves the reaper squad ! Wow so cool love that you walked away good sportsmanship can’t tell you how many times they’ve cause arguments on the field
I've heard that from so many people by now. Must be pretty accurate. yeesh
lmao reaper squad 😂😂 are they 12?
No broski they’re all over 18 some in their mid 20s
Are they good enough to warrant a nickname tho?
@@joshlopez8489 It's a cringe name imo it's kinda weird calling your group that.
It'd be super badass if they were ex military tho
Your so cool! When you talked about people that look up to you I am one of those people. I’ve only been watching your videos for a small amount of time but I respect you, the way you play, and the decisions you make when it comes to cheaters or just the game. Keep up the good work man!👍🏻
10:15
Micahs 3rd Kill: "Yeah i got him, lets gooo! :D"
meanwhile Dutch: "26, 27, 28..."
I thought it was a joke but Jesus yeah Dutch really was that high up at that point
"that still counts as one!"
Just shows why he's never lost a single match ever.
Every time I stumble across your content, I ask myself, "Why isn't this a world recognized sport yet?" Can you imagine ex militants from all over the globe going at it, representing their countries in like the olympics or something. Shit would be crazy.
Better yet, what of world conflicts were solved this way instead? That would be cool
@@1dudecrush honestly that’s the best idea I’ve ever heard
@@1dudecrush it is but with led
That's basically the new lore of Rainbow Six lmao
@@freshair9133 yeah and they will kill too
Mad credit to the times you slowed it to 1 shot on the unexpecting. Very kind. And for all the " Bang Bang" close range peeps. Good to see the kindness and control.
Used to play Airsoft and Paintball quite frequently but I never stumbled onto a channel like this until today. Well shot, stabilized and cut together, with really nice editing to keep the audience knowing whats going on. Fuck cheaters but also good on you for keeping your cool 🤙🏻
Worst refs ever. I hope you complain to the organizers, it wouldn't at all be a Karen move.
Karen's complain to get what they want, while strong folk stand up to abuse especially when it involves others.
If I had to guess, it seems as though he was getting special treatment or at least I hope so because otherwise those refs are the most incompetent, spineless, idiots in the sport.
I ran an 8v8 group in HS to raise money for "extracurriculars," and I know that the difference between a fun time and a bad time is the refs/organizers. I believe anyone would rather lose 3 games in a row fairly than have a back and forth where everyone is frustrated (silently or otherwise.)
karen
@@IAMMRON ouch, my feelings :(
Warped Ops is the shittiest airsoft field on the planet
Sometimes these player pools are close nit. Meaning family friends etc. The ref in question might know the dude irl and didn't want to sledgehammer him.
@@dgray3771
Yeah. So let him cheat
"Something you looking at? You're staring at me. If you want to say something, say something."
"Sorry, I don't talk to cheaters."
When Dutch posts it’s a good day
I agree man!
Agreed
Trueee
Facts
Well on you Dutch for being the bigger man. As I always say: The loudest in the room is most often the weakest in the room
Parents: I’m gonna pretend I didn’t hear that
Dutch, you're a good dude. Respect for the restraint you showed. I'm a "big guy" also and likely would have served up what ever he was asking for. Some time those fake "tough guys" need to be checked. Hope one day soon someone checks that fool, he needs it. Best
3/4 of the game
Dutch: 'They arnt calling thier hits"
Also Dutch: 18:35
"ill MAKE them call their hits"
Damn straight! If they're going to cheat then they deserve all harm that Dutch hits them with! Now I do not and will not wish harm upon them or anyone else, BUUUUUUUUUT they do deserve it! The refs deserve it too! It's literally they're JOB to ban the cheaters and to keep the game fair! Final thing, BIIIG respect going out towards the cheaters friend! That's acting your age!
Lol this is exactly how we dealt with these types of players. No mercy. Aim for soft tissue if need be.
21:34 best line ever
"I respect that guy, but I'm still putting it on TH-cam"
-Dutch(2021)
This is awesome! You are such a good sport. Tomorrow is my first game with my son and some friends here in Spain! Can’t wait!!!
leg meta riot shield dude... nice xD
Should've been crouched with the shield so his feet were protected 😆
Man riots are awesome , unless they use smgs, then they are less so
I do feel bad for Micah on his first day to encounter one of the biggest type of douchebags in this sport. It can give him the wrong impression of how fun Airsoft can be when everybody is playing like they should. And he needs to adjust his hop up a bit :).
And regarding the cheater, yes. You did handle it professionally. You did called it out, frustrated, but you did do the right thing.
And yes, they all looked the same because it looks like they're in one team.
But in my opinion, if you play on a field where the referee cannot do anything about cheaters, I would do exactly the same thing or pack up my kit and go.
Because if the referee's or admins or marshalls cannot/will not do anything, it means they're not competent and that can ruin your entire day.
Also respect for one of their team to appologize on his behalf. That's real sportsmanship, right there.
heavily overlooked aspect of your skill set is your ability to switch firing hands going from left shoulder to right shoulder consistently and still aiming accurately its a skill that not many people have(I can shoot both but most people i've shot with can't)
Seems to me like the ref and the cheater might know each other especially after the fact that the ref tested you.
Defcon levels of sus.
If the ref couldn’t do anything after multiple complaints, you wonder why they’re even there in the first place
@@nathanflinchum1153 Dutch goes to a bunch of fields and always gets accused of cheating, while also just happening to find nothing but cheaters. “Birds of a feather”. Very often though he’ll wiff a shot or do a bunch of gun hits then cry. I like Dutch, but he’s the same guy that he’s recording
@@scottedwards3403 I think he goes to certain fields that are know to have cheaters and passive refs to get content, I wouldn't like to do it but he's a content creator so
@@MAsOCLisMO what about all the accusations he has for cheating? I mean if we’re taking a zoomed out angle of a bb ‘hitting’ a guy at 200ft, we’ve also got to have an ear for the guys on the forums and the comment sections accusing him
@Doggo Hunter *fanboy intensifies*
An incredible attitude, Dutch. And the teammate who came and apologized? You're both legends! I'm so glad I watched this video 'til the end, these are some players to learn from. Thank you for uploading this🤘
I like your logic. When a cheater gets on your nerves and try’s to fight you, you take up with ref. When that don’t work, you sweat the hell out of the other team taking no chances on who might be cheating and who deserves merciful semi auto.
ive never played airsoft in my life but seeing how Dutch handled things made me interested in it even with the cheaters. Very respectful and acted like a true man.
"Just because you wasted 3 mags of me dosen't mean you hit me" that was awesome. I gotta use that😂
At least you met some great players and Micah is gonna be a great ally in future campaigns
Man you embarrassed that guy when you walked away from him, also Micah killed it! I loved his aggressive play!
Dutch may be racking up the kills like they're ants, but Micah is doing his Kanye Best and that's what matters.
Your going to hell but thank you for that.
your friend micah's great play for the first time, I LOVE the sweep you do on the floor. The guy KNEW he was cheating by giving himself away just by asking "DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY?" Too bad there are people who can't separate the game from the pride
Pie'ng it off with standoff from the wall is something that you have mastered, along with the effective use of a single point sling, ambidextrous shooting. Well done
That one looks like a cool field, too!
I like your reasoning for not arguing with the guy. Not only will it not do anything, but you referenced that there are kids there watching y’all. Classy move.
Also, the “cheater’s friend” who apologize at the end had some sweet kit.
A part of me really, REALLY wants to see you just let this guy have it. But at the end of the day, I respect the hell out of you keeping a level head in front of younger guys out there and being a good example. Sportsmanship matters!
DUDE I could hear your anger in your narration when this video started. you know sh*ts about to get real. Always lovin' your upmost honest, straightforward, genuine and sick gameplay!
Thank you for being an adult. Every single word you said is an absolute FACT.
The grenades you have after you use them are they recoverable? Also I've watched your channel for a couple years now your probably the most honest airsoft player I've seen and you have great sportsmanship
They are. Thank you!!
@old man strength I'm pretty sure gun hits always count. The logic is that a real bullet would destroy the weapon putting you out the battle anyway.
@old man strength Since 2007, on and off. I'm in the UK, and all of the sites I've played at here, which is a fair number, all rule that gun hits count. Clearly things are different in the states.
@old man strength Ok? I don't play Speedqb. I just play at regular woodland and CQB sites, and they all have gun hit rules.
@old man strength naw, he got him on the belly.
Talk to the organizers of the course, show them the footage, ask them what clients they prefer to see next time so you also know where to go.
Man I wish, I go to this field often and the refs never do anything about it. Just today I had to deal with cheaters on the hill that would never call their hits. It’s whatever I guess, you learn to get past it. It just sucks that’s something we have to deal with.
@@gabrielcamberos3662 So just stop going there. I mean it, not worth with refs like that.
@@gabrielcamberos3662 Please, let us all know where this place is. Most of us would like to avoid it.
Dutch is that one youtuber who doesn't upload often, but when he does, we all watch it immediately.
Yes sir
Fax
Fax
You are wrong. He is not one of those youtubers. In one hour 0.4% of his subs watched this video. That's nothing
@@wesleyself6640 My comment was a hyperbole stating that we all love Dutch and his content. Quit being a buzzkill
Your ambidextrous weapons handling is impressive
Something I've always respected and admired about your approach to airsoft is how you see yourself as the example. So many people who are "adults" in todays society don't want to take action for their own mistakes, and seeing you be such a friendly and approachable person in the sport is really refreshing. So thank you
Hey Dutch, sorry you had to experience that. Unfortuantely, I'd have to say the same for WarpedOps, that I haven't had a good experience with the staff there. Always special treatment for the refs friends, and they treated everyone else with disrespect.
As a ex-ref, they should have done something.
Thank you Dutch for setting a good example and being the bigger person in that situation, hopefully we could see more of that in today's world
Dude Micah during game 3 was epic. he's laying down then stands up ambushing like 4-5 guys. that was crazy
Good example of why he's never list a single match.
I just love how there's all these whacky intense plays throughout the video
And then there's this one
13:52
The simplicity of just "see man, shoot man, man out" made me laugh more than I think it should've.
Also my favorites!
My guy was the most lackadaisical player I’ve ever seen. How did he think he wouldn’t get shot standing out in the open like that? 😂
he was hilarious. not even mad, just "yup. knew that was comin'."
@Dutch The Hooligan man real quick for someone ive never met i respect you alot in this video. i dont know how to explain it without soundign over the top and wierd but so rarely do i see your level of maturity anywerhe. id have a really hard time keeping my mouth shut with that one guy when he challenged you. im a natrual hothead and its taken me years to learn barking back makes it worse. but that guy was awful. seriously great content. good luck to you man.
This is the channel that got me into airsoft in the first place. Dutch, you are an amazing airsoft with a ton of skill. I love watching your videos.
he didnt apologize for his friend’s cheating, he apologized for his friend stepping up to you.
thats not the same.
he still got clapped 10 times and didnt call it.
i’d have been furious. and i dont even airsoft.
He might've not had the knowledge that his friend was cheating ngl. Can't assume, he apologized for him shouting at Dutch so that's fine.
Your type of furious is funny. You sound like the Zach Bagans of airsoft 😅. That being said only 2nd video in and I've already subscribed. Your outlook on situations and ability to refrain from unnecessary drama is refreshing. It really is. Thanks.
I've drove by this airsoft/paintball field countless times on my way to LA and always wondered how the action would be. Thanks for posting this video. It looks fun.
Respect for the guy at the end, but better than him, it was when dutch didn't complain about the cheater when he asked if dutch wanted to say anything, ignore them, it's worst than answer them, and you, dutch myfriend, you did good!!
You've got my respect there!!
This guy's game play is always next level. Thanks Dutch for always bringing us top notch content!! Definitely if I was in your shoes there I wouldn't have been so cool about it. Good job!!
"I'm gonna settle it in the best way possible, stop using 1% and start using 2% of my power."
Loved the way you handled this. It was a very mature move and a huge power play!
They guy who came to apologise for his friend yelling at you in the end is the true meaning of respect 🎉.
Dutch man thanks for your videos. I'm a war veteran out of comission stuck in the house with a bad sickness. Watching you use maximum efficiency and stuff totally awesome. All I can do is pay Arma 3 on a good health day.
Ah dude, hope you’re able to recover soon. Best of luck to you!
Awww... bless Micah's heart, first day on the job, and having such a fun time! I wish I play airsoft.
Why don't you?
@@cy-one there's many reasons people don't play. Lack of money to rent gear, lack of a field near them, worried to go alone as friends dont want to go, ect
hey Micah, it was awesome watching you play. flanking that squad, that was big brain. ducking behind the brush. you're a natural.
I love the drastic difference between Dutch and Micah. You can hear Micah's stressed breathing and his adrenaline is pumping, whereas Dutch is much calmer as he's done this ton of times. Really great video, can't wait to see more ^^
“You wanna do something?”
Takes short off
“Come on!”
Later as he get dragged off
“Oh I’m sorry I thought this is America!”
I’m gonna be honest, airsoft matches are just ASMR. I’m new to these videos, but man, it sure does look awesome!! I’d love to try this out. And good video!
the simple fact that you looking at him riles him up prooves eerything, he knows full well.
17:35 nah I think most us recognize with that tone and energy he had and his hands out he was ready to do more than argue.
I love how mica isn’t scared about getting hit like other new people
Welcome back to TH-cam land - it’s been a hot minute! I hope that this is an indication that your health has improved and that you have either solved or are working on that head/vision issue.
Anyway, it is good to see you out shooting fools and having fun ✌️