Had a 23ML on my tail in the 104S ASA at altitude and speed with a decent gap; last ditch made a 90 degree turn to bleed his speed, then pulled vertical. managed to stall him out after flaring his missiles and gun him down after rolling over. truly a cathartic experience
That is my favored military aircraft because my grandfather on my mother side flew the CF-104 for the RCAF (Royal Canadian Air Force) during the mid 1960's. He and his family was station out of Baden-Soellingen, Germany with the No. 422 Squadron RCAF as a NATO nuclear strike force. He received a medal ten years ago for his service to NATO. He still has his outfit with the foot cramps its very very cool. Also, he still fits in it he is 83 years old. He loves that plane all the family calls his plane when we talked about it. It was a incredible aircraft if I ever have a chance to flew it I will in a second.
I'm a big fan of F-104J and G They are actually really easy to learn, easy to fly and kind of relaxing And as you say the new Match maker makes them even better!
The F-104A and C variants are honestly pretty fun to fly right now with the BR going down to 9.3. I get downtiered to like 8.3-8.7 80% of the time and as you can imagine running against planes like the F-86, F-84, the early migs etc. this is a pretty good boom and zoom fighter, only thing that can give you grief is the Mig-19's because while they cannot really catch up, if one decides to stick on you forever, he cancels you out for the entire game and it sucks
My only issue with this new decompression is that they bumped up a fair amount of jets to higher BR's. Yet the MIG-23ML and MLD get left at 11.3 and I believe they both belong at the same spot as the F-4EJ Kai. The main reason is they can still face 10.3 jets the majority of which don't have flares or chaff. There's my little ted talk on the new decompression which other then what I stated has helped out a lot.
Totally agree I have both the MLA and EJ Kai,and in my limited experience MLA are a bit better in a real game and way better in 1 v 1,way more forgiving to fly due to it being very fast and can actually turn in less than 3 business days So I don't see the reason of it been left at 11.3
F-104G is one of the few planes I actually have good stats in, 60% win rate 3+ k/d. The A/C variants are decent so long as you dont get uptiered into 9G or 9L missiles, very common sadly. they can outrun or dodge most 9B and 9E, and the speed/acceleration actually makes a difference down at 9.3.
Yesterday I got crit by a 104 in a headon. I was in the viggen, he nipped half of my controlsurfaces in the head on but I still ended up killing him after the weirdest turn fight ever. Goes to show a lot about the 104 I think.
@@martijn9568 well we were on high alt. 6km and he became pretty slow as well, I was around 550kph and almost stalling my gun connected guided by Olof Palme himself.
I know the guy from 6:27 MapleWolf34 and he told me he is for a long time no more in PHAP, he changed to "FurEZ" somewhere in september 2022. So that must be real old footage. But I understand school can really EAT your freetime. It's like Nikado Avocado and your freetime is 25,000 calories of fries and burgers.
Great to see a video on my favourite plane! Bringing back the memory before it was lifted to 10.7. It was fairly easy to score half a dozen kills back then.
Good day sir. We had a Lil conversation on m&k not long ago and I purchased one only to realize that the arthritis in my hands just don't let me manipulate the keys very long without pain. I'd love to be able to talk to personally or through text to ask some questions. I know you are a busy man so I won't expect you to be able to. But I also want to tell you that you are my favorite pilot in warthunder and I dig your videos. Keep up the great work.
Funny how a single round from a 23mm takes out an entire plane with no problem. A person dashes in front a 20mm gau-12, it doesn't matter, you were pelting him with rubber bullets. My problem with war thunder is how bad the gaijin team is at balancing.
Well... u know what i use to say: Nobody forces u to play (or even spawn in) a -full- uptier! At least its not a 8.7-9.0 jet that never ever ever ever gets a downtier!
4:30 Adens on a French plane??? The heresy!!! The F-104G was a lot of fun, I got it when the A-10 just got into the game and I had a lot of fun going to space and raining down hell on all those A-10's And with the F-4F video I want to hear your honest thoughts about Gaijin's decision to put it at 10.7 instead of giving it 9L's (which they are stubbornly and openly refusing to give). Cause I do think that it now being 10.7 is nice and makes it a lot less stressful to play, because it was by far the worst plane at 11.0
@@H-cranky I don't tbh, having faced a fuck ton of F-4J's and F-14's back then made me stop playing it, can't do anything against those 7F's Just doesn't want to maneuver. Tho it's a lot of fun when not facing those things and going to space
F-104 A/C are absolutely disgusting now. AIM-9Bs feel great when half the planes you're fighting are still climbing at 500km/h. As for the F-4F it's so enjoyable. I didn't really think it'd ever be playable, and now it's actually good. Crazy to think that a .3 BR change can make or break a plane.
I played 500+ games in a 10.7 f104j from the Japanese tree. No countermeasures. Fun plane yes, keep your speed and have fun. Climb to space but be careful with long range radar missiles
What I found with the F104G is that you get to 10km up and then just dive on anyone you see then go back up at a 60-degree angle. Sure some planes are faster than you but I found that they can not climb as much as you can.
Ahh, yes, one of the quotes of all time😌… “And I will see you all in the ne-“ - DEFYN, 2023 Also, nice job on passing your exams! We are quite proud, and astonished at your brain power😁😁😁💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥🧠🧠🧠💪💪💪
My grandfather flew dissimilar training in his F-double oh against 104s and said in a head on or when retreating the profile of the star fighter became invisible. Relevance to realistic: approximately zero.
Defyn dies sometimes. I presume that he has a survival rate of about 85% what is amazing enough when I consider that for me personally 60% is what I like to have. It would be interesting to see a video of his death flights and hear his comments what he did wrong. I learned a lot of his videos because he comments very good but to see a video of his failures would be very interesting especially in props.
Hey, defyn, could you try out the J35 since they broke its flight model today? They lowered AOA from 25 to about 22 cus too many premiums were flatspinning it
the f104a i find to be quite fun, and with it now being 9.3, its more than capable, then again i havent touched the other f104's so i cant say for sure, yes the aim 9b's are shite, i get some kills but its just opportunist
@DEFYN Sorry but I really need to ask this how do you pronounce that name? Like Define or is it Deaf'n cause I hear people in videos you are in with them and they say the second one and I always thought it was like Define but spelt DEFYN. Sorry just bugged me and had to ask this.
Maybe you should try low tiers my dude. for relaxing. couple days ago i tried MiG-3-15 (BK) literal gunship at that br and funny af. I really want to see your tier 2-4 vehicle videos again.
I must say, I just started flying the 104G and am struggling with it. Its not at all how I like to fly. It just seems to be a lawn dart. Worse I am having no luck with the matchmaker either you MLDs and MLAs are all over.
The Gaijin-broken F-104G, at a 11.0 rating, can and will face 11.7-rated aircraft with much stronger missiles, both in terms of G-force and angle. All of my matchmaking at 11.0 or 11.7 ends up in deaths. When it’s not that, it’s only a few kills, or I’m practically AFK because there’s nothing you can do when everyone has the one advantage you do. When I’m lucky enough to get into a lower BR like 10.7, I can actually make a significant impact
This guy is amazing he survived even though his plane disintegrated.
F-104g is way too OP. It can catch F-16, Mig-29. without a doubt, it is undisputed king of 10.3 currently!
@@hamzaafzal1027 no it can’t 💀
@@spif9881 why
@@spif9881 r/wooosh
@@spyous7884 no way you’re still wooshing in 2023
I have to say, you never dying in these videos is a hilaarious running gag on the channel and it cracks me up everytime it happens.
I love those moments where I thought I saw Defyn die XD
what are u talking about, he never died
Legends never die
The F104 is in such a tough spot, even Defyn struggles with it
I always liked the 104 because you can just climb then dog on people below
@@xx_lightning_xx5781 wow... this seems like a bot comment to rile people up.
@@Marin3r101 what ?
@@xx_lightning_xx5781 yeah that used to be a thing but.. not anymore
@@PerriThePlatyPilot i mean last patch i found the f104j actually useable due to the a10/su25 spam
Granted it was still bad just useable
Had a 23ML on my tail in the 104S ASA at altitude and speed with a decent gap; last ditch made a 90 degree turn to bleed his speed, then pulled vertical. managed to stall him out after flaring his missiles and gun him down after rolling over. truly a cathartic experience
That is my favored military aircraft because my grandfather on my mother side flew the CF-104 for the RCAF (Royal Canadian Air Force) during the mid 1960's. He and his family was station out of Baden-Soellingen, Germany with the No. 422 Squadron RCAF as a NATO nuclear strike force. He received a medal ten years ago for his service to NATO. He still has his outfit with the foot cramps its very very cool. Also, he still fits in it he is 83 years old. He loves that plane all the family calls his plane when we talked about it. It was a incredible aircraft if I ever have a chance to flew it I will in a second.
your granddad sounds like a cool guy, thanks for sharing
I'm a big fan of F-104J and G
They are actually really easy to learn, easy to fly and kind of relaxing
And as you say the new Match maker makes them even better!
I wish the J had flares tho 😭
@@jblakemore definitely,and the Chinese G too
I have the Chinese F-104 G, I like it now but The grind for the aim 9Js and the fact that it doesn't have flares kind of sucks
@@jblakemore japan not having flares makes it unplayable and unfun
@@lilbroccoil556 ik it's one of my most played jets
"we'll see you all in the ne-"
Quality outro
The F-104A and C variants are honestly pretty fun to fly right now with the BR going down to 9.3. I get downtiered to like 8.3-8.7 80% of the time and as you can imagine running against planes like the F-86, F-84, the early migs etc. this is a pretty good boom and zoom fighter, only thing that can give you grief is the Mig-19's because while they cannot really catch up, if one decides to stick on you forever, he cancels you out for the entire game and it sucks
I only go against su25s and a10s in the f104c 😭
And the mig 21s are a pain
"After this fake dead, we land and repair, but we lose on tickets" - - - > Defyn Can't Be Killed :^)
My only issue with this new decompression is that they bumped up a fair amount of jets to higher BR's. Yet the MIG-23ML and MLD get left at 11.3 and I believe they both belong at the same spot as the F-4EJ Kai. The main reason is they can still face 10.3 jets the majority of which don't have flares or chaff. There's my little ted talk on the new decompression which other then what I stated has helped out a lot.
Totally agree
I have both the MLA and EJ Kai,and in my limited experience MLA are a bit better in a real game and way better in 1 v 1,way more forgiving to fly due to it being very fast and can actually turn in less than 3 business days
So I don't see the reason of it been left at 11.3
Would love to see you play the f2h now with it being at 7.3
recorded it already will arrive somewhere in the near future
@@DEFYN Weird request but can we see your graphics/settings for WT
@@Alexandersuverinitet yeah, it looks juicy, i want to see it too
F-104G is one of the few planes I actually have good stats in, 60% win rate 3+ k/d.
The A/C variants are decent so long as you dont get uptiered into 9G or 9L missiles, very common sadly. they can outrun or dodge most 9B and 9E, and the speed/acceleration actually makes a difference down at 9.3.
Yesterday I got crit by a 104 in a headon. I was in the viggen, he nipped half of my controlsurfaces in the head on but I still ended up killing him after the weirdest turn fight ever. Goes to show a lot about the 104 I think.
Would the Starfighter have been better of by getting your shot up Viggen into low speed?
@@martijn9568 well we were on high alt. 6km and he became pretty slow as well, I was around 550kph and almost stalling my gun connected guided by Olof Palme himself.
@@martijn9568 also I think my engine power and afterburner low fuel state made that even possible. I Was in the vertical a lot I Remember.
I wish you the best luck to the next exams, amd congratulations for those two that you passed. Cheers mate!
Oh my god you kill me sometimes, "pulled out of this fake dive" I had some tears on that one...😂
Same XD
Best of luck on your exams, Defyn!
I love the ending 😂
Also I can't help but admire how awesome looking the German version looks, looking forward to flying it
I know the guy from 6:27 MapleWolf34 and he told me he is for a long time no more in PHAP, he changed to "FurEZ" somewhere in september 2022. So that must be real old footage. But I understand school can really EAT your freetime. It's like Nikado Avocado and your freetime is 25,000 calories of fries and burgers.
"razor will keep this phantom straight, twitter wont like that" 💀
Great to see a video on my favourite plane! Bringing back the memory before it was lifted to 10.7. It was fairly easy to score half a dozen kills back then.
Good day sir. We had a Lil conversation on m&k not long ago and I purchased one only to realize that the arthritis in my hands just don't let me manipulate the keys very long without pain. I'd love to be able to talk to personally or through text to ask some questions. I know you are a busy man so I won't expect you to be able to. But I also want to tell you that you are my favorite pilot in warthunder and I dig your videos. Keep up the great work.
you are like the modern day orange doom. Glad to see 2015-17 style videos
Bro fr jumpcutted his closing statements
Funny how a single round from a 23mm takes out an entire plane with no problem. A person dashes in front a 20mm gau-12, it doesn't matter, you were pelting him with rubber bullets.
My problem with war thunder is how bad the gaijin team is at balancing.
insanely late but the marineflieger skin is so sexy on the 104
Well... u know what i use to say: Nobody forces u to play (or even spawn in) a -full- uptier!
At least its not a 8.7-9.0 jet that never ever ever ever gets a downtier!
4:30 Adens on a French plane??? The heresy!!!
The F-104G was a lot of fun, I got it when the A-10 just got into the game and I had a lot of fun going to space and raining down hell on all those A-10's
And with the F-4F video I want to hear your honest thoughts about Gaijin's decision to put it at 10.7 instead of giving it 9L's (which they are stubbornly and openly refusing to give). Cause I do think that it now being 10.7 is nice and makes it a lot less stressful to play, because it was by far the worst plane at 11.0
Still prefer the f104g over it lmao
@@H-cranky why? the f-4 can do everything the f-104 can do, but also it can turn…
@@Siddich f104 keeps its energy way better, has more fuel, more ammo and most importantly, its more fun for me
@@H-cranky I don't tbh, having faced a fuck ton of F-4J's and F-14's back then made me stop playing it, can't do anything against those 7F's
Just doesn't want to maneuver. Tho it's a lot of fun when not facing those things and going to space
Love the part when DEFYN get a missle hit while he even haven't finished his outro lol
this plane always looks like it ripped its wings off
If you haven't seen a plane crash into the ground and explode in the video, then it is still alive.
F-104 A/C are absolutely disgusting now. AIM-9Bs feel great when half the planes you're fighting are still climbing at 500km/h.
As for the F-4F it's so enjoyable. I didn't really think it'd ever be playable, and now it's actually good. Crazy to think that a .3 BR change can make or break a plane.
8:45 F4F is coming back to his channel
I played 500+ games in a 10.7 f104j from the Japanese tree. No countermeasures.
Fun plane yes, keep your speed and have fun. Climb to space but be careful with long range radar missiles
Hey at least when you crash into the ocean with this thing you can be a viable torpedo.
What I found with the F104G is that you get to 10km up and then just dive on anyone you see then go back up at a 60-degree angle. Sure some planes are faster than you but I found that they can not climb as much as you can.
Haven't tried this one after the BR changes, but the F4F feels much better now that I don't have to deal with a horde of F-14s every game...
I'm considering grinding it, is it worth it now at 10.7?
@@dhc-op2rw I am liking it, and I don't even have the 9Js yet. I'd wait for DEFYN's review before making up my mind tho...
Pls play the yak 15 p
The Doof will do as the Doof wishes
i actually want to see Doof playing the yak 15 p but i need the tittle to be Fuck you Norway
Yak jets need a downtier to 5.0 they are so useless.
@@HalIOfFamerskill issue tbh
@@HalIOfFamerAgainst lavochkins and 109gs?
Ahh, yes, one of the quotes of all time😌…
“And I will see you all in the ne-“
- DEFYN, 2023
Also, nice job on passing your exams! We are quite proud, and astonished at your brain power😁😁😁💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥🧠🧠🧠💪💪💪
Hey defyn could you fly out the f4f now that its 10.7? It is basically the f104g but better in almost every way and its actually pretty fun now.
did you watch the first 10 seconds of the video?
@@Beulena. nah sorry i see it now lol, i was watching it on mute
My grandfather flew dissimilar training in his F-double oh against 104s and said in a head on or when retreating the profile of the star fighter became invisible. Relevance to realistic: approximately zero.
Godspeed on your exams, this was my last semester and all i had was two exams
And then i realise its quiet an old footage
Only 2 clips rest is new
Hey, they forgot to put wings on that plane.
that ending was gold
cool that the german one gets flares and seems to turn 1000x better than the chinese 104G at the same BR, wow...
Ending amazing :D 10/10 never die always win :D
GL on ur exams!
Defyn dies sometimes. I presume that he has a survival rate of about 85% what is amazing enough when I consider that for me personally 60% is what I like to have. It would be interesting to see a video of his death flights and hear his comments what he did wrong. I learned a lot of his videos because he comments very good but to see a video of his failures would be very interesting especially in props.
3:08 wow hiding his deaths again...
Damn, I hate losing on tickets.
Hey, defyn, could you try out the J35 since they broke its flight model today? They lowered AOA from 25 to about 22 cus too many premiums were flatspinning it
This planes the ultimate orbital striker in its br
"...and i'll see you all in-" xD
Ah yes my favorite plane to fly in the whole game, finally.
When it first got aim-9J it was amazing
@dyfen Random question 🙋♂️ , do you use a hotas or just m&k? Thank you!
Check out the F-7F, it got moved down to 6.3 instead of 6.7
the outro was great lmfao
🤣
You should do a video on the F-104A since it’s 9.3 now.
Defyn, can I get any advice about J35A? I could not find any suitable tactics for it.
0:52 that is a lucky save
The F-104A is only doable if you are flying the US one so you don't face Aim9L shtfest A10s and A6Es all day though there is still the Su-25K
dear lord, imagine trying to dogfight F-16s and MiG 29s in a starfighter...
Defyn are you able to make a vid on the Mirage-2000 considering with this new BR change?
What are you studying defyn ? Something healt related?
Defyn, when would we have the flares guide to dodge the missile
love your videos :)
Defynitly not dying. ^^
Why does the italian f104g at the same be (10.7) get two less missiles? i am sad
Can you review j35xs with the new br update? Seems like 10.7 is the sweet spot right now.
the f104a i find to be quite fun, and with it now being 9.3, its more than capable, then again i havent touched the other f104's so i cant say for sure, yes the aim 9b's are shite, i get some kills but its just opportunist
Is it possible you can try out the fw190 F8? It's a pain and you'd love it 😉😂
"Twitter doesn't like that" lmfao
can you make a video on the yak38??? i have the premium one and its hard to dogfight with lol
@DEFYN Sorry but I really need to ask this how do you pronounce that name? Like Define or is it Deaf'n cause I hear people in videos you are in with them and they say the second one and I always thought it was like Define but spelt DEFYN. Sorry just bugged me and had to ask this.
F 104G or mig 21mf ??? Which one should I get first
Play the 104A or C now it's at 9.3, downtiers in them are some of the most broken rounds I've ever played - 7, 8 kills commonly it's crazy
what belt do you use for Vulcan? I always leave people crit with irrelevant damage with armored targets and air targets
I personally stuck with default one, my first Vulcan gun was on F14 and it felt quite alright
Can you possibly make a video of F-104A/C and how to play it?
how to give the middle finger to players who love to play this plane: Have the repairs at almost 20K lions...
im not sure about the f-104a and c varient they have to be very cautious in br 9.3 beware of pesky harriers and frogfoot iin every match
Just don’t go below Mach .95 and your fine
F104S next ?
I don't think its bad aim, may be its just me but war thunder does things to your bullets if you win too much
im useing the f104j and it doesnt have countermesures its so bullshit
I mean my dealt hand is usually on my third leg but i guess this video makes sense.
The end tho 💀
can you try the etendar ?
Maybe you should try low tiers my dude. for relaxing. couple days ago i tried MiG-3-15 (BK) literal gunship at that br and funny af. I really want to see your tier 2-4 vehicle videos again.
why only 2 aim-9J's? better flight performance?
I use 4
you should try chinese f104g it doesn't even have flares
F104A in Amerika alstublieft?
How many hours do you have in this game?
sound mod?
Plane is not bad but why would one take it instead of F4F?
6:28 I've heard that! Lmfao
Still rough in 2024?
I must say, I just started flying the 104G and am struggling with it. Its not at all how I like to fly. It just seems to be a lawn dart. Worse I am having no luck with the matchmaker either you MLDs and MLAs are all over.
The Gaijin-broken F-104G, at a 11.0 rating, can and will face 11.7-rated aircraft with much stronger missiles, both in terms of G-force and angle. All of my matchmaking at 11.0 or 11.7 ends up in deaths. When it’s not that, it’s only a few kills, or I’m practically AFK because there’s nothing you can do when everyone has the one advantage you do. When I’m lucky enough to get into a lower BR like 10.7, I can actually make a significant impact
this starfighter killed like over 100 German pilots they just coudn't figure it out
What are you studying?