I love how effectively a mono red deck with a commander I'd never even seen before was able to control the game! This kind of creativity is why EDH is so great!
Kumano is such a fun red commander. His ability is more potent than it looks. Also can be used politically. Props to Martin for reigniting my love for this commander!
Just a random anecdote: When I first started watching your channel (years ago) my wife miss-heard your voice while saying MTG Muddstah, and interpreted it as MTV Buttstuff. So, for a long time now, twice a week (and three times a week when we're lucky) she gets to yell MTV Buttstuff when she hears your videos.
I like that Fires of Invention saw play in this match and had such an impact. It just does such a wonderful job at keeping mana available for ability activations while allowing you to advance your board state
@@MTGMuddstah I'm starting to see Fires of Invention in Sisay decks. It works well because you can circumvent Fire's downside by having searchable responses in the deck for Sisay to grab.
Missed Mind’s Dilation trigger at 9:45 Super cool game though! Been looking for a unique mono red commander, and Kumano certainly fits the bill! Thanks Muddstah!
Pretty sure martin is supposed to get the copied ability from the illusionist's bracers since the equipment is still his, and the equipment creates the second ability.
Wow, that was an intense and well-balanced game. Everyone got to try to do their thing. The rest of you were just a little too slow to recognize how strong Martin's board was getting.
On the sixth day of Christmas, Ol' Muddstah gave to me Six hundred pings FIVE COPIED SOL RINGS Four person politics Three hundred treasures Two times the triggers And some more games of EDH!
That red deck is super sweet. Love the interaction with Defector allowing both players to draw 2 cards. Which was a misplay during the game. Lol. But good game otherwise. I was wondering who my red general would be and it might be this one lol.
I think it was the lack of artifact hate, more than anything else, that allowed the deck to go off like that. Personally, I don't like the idea of relying so much on keeping my equipment on the field... I think Bosh was the "red" commander I liked seeing the most in this channel.
This game is the perfect example of why I never play without green... you can never have too much enchantment/artifact hate. That being said, Kumano with deathtouch is a really mean synergy and I hate it and love it at the same time.
@@DarkEinherjar To be fair green is the only color that doesn't suck at ramping (black is probably second). As it stands white isn't very good on its own, thats right, but its a really solid second or third color.
This was a way good game! That Syr Konrad deck was tight! It gave me good card ideas for the konrad deck I built. Definitely putting in More protection for my konrad after seeing this game cause ain't no one's trying to see Syr Konrad on the field while mill is happening XD
15:52 Equip Lightning Greaves to Zombie token, activate unblockable on Reaver, re-equip. Assuming nobody has anything they can do while it's not on the Reaver, it's now unblockable and has shroud. And then I see red mana available and trash the whole idea ;) Once again, my new fav red Commander :)
Hey, Ben!! Looking at the list the Syr Konrad deck is missing some amazing pieces in Tombstone Stairwell, Infernal Genesis, Mesmeric Orb and Rise of the Dark Realms. Tombstone Stairwell in particular would be SO SO strong with Syr Konrad, can literally end the game in a round of the table with a decent number of creatures in the graveyard because it triggers for everyone, on everyone's turn. Add in a Blood Artist or similar and hoooooly hell. And thats before you even get to Grave Pact, Black Market, Bloodchief Ascension and the rest. Love the deck but you're missing out on some serious power, and Tombstone Stairwell is SUPER cheap if i remember rightly.
Love this video and was excited to look at the decks but noticed the titania deck didn't have Nissa who shakes the world? What card did you cut for it ?
@11:30 Could max have tapped his two critters to convoke the chord of calling to increase the X to 2? I'm just curious if convoke would interact that was in this situation.
I had the misfortune of sitting at the same table as a Hokori player... it's as disgusting as it looks. Games are also extremely boring too because, unlike most Stax strategies, monowhite does lack ways of untapping multiple lands, so even the Hokori player gets locked down (and the guy is a douchebag who is perfectly fine with it).
I really want one of those Muddstah Pawn Shop playmats....any chance this will be available for sale? Seems like it's the only playmat worthy of running my Duke of Dumpsters Daretti deck on.
Man, I wish that I could do one of these because playing against the same decks every time gets a bit boring. Although, I do need to make more decks myself, which is why I have three or so planned out, just don't have the money for them yet
Something I was surprised is so easy to build is eggs. Just jam in artifacts that just need 1-2 maaaaaybe 3 mana to draw you a card and do some random utility thing and you're in business. There are SO many commanders that can take advantage of it; Kykar Winds Fury, Korvold Fae Cursed King, Jhoira Weatherlight Captain, Yarok the Desecrated, Niv-Mizzet Parun, Gerrard Weatherlight Hero, Elsha of The Infinite, Raff Capashen Ship's Mage, Teshar Ancestor's Apostle, etc. and they cost a few cents a piece.
@@TheMightyBattleSquid My problem is that I like building gimmicked decks, or tribal decks. For instance, I am planning out two decks, one a bird tribal, and the other is an Estrid enchantress deck that looks to draw their entire library and win with lab man
If Maraxus of Keld and Kumano, Master of Yamabushi are the first 2, who are going to be the other 2 commanders at the 4 player Mono-red table of underplayed , interesting commanders?
Never thought mono red control would work that well. To be fair noone touched his stuff, with some more removal the game would have gone quite differently.
The Kumano and Nezahal starting hands look best, but beating Titania+Library ain't easy. The Syr Konrad deck starts out worst. After the game, I'm not surprised that Syr Konrad didn't win, but I also didn't expect the Kumano deck to take off as hard as it did.
This was a sweet game, but I am confused as to why mono red basically got a free pass for so long in the game. It definitely performed well but no one did anything to it for the first 70% of the game, so it's not really surprising that he came out on top.
Heartstone reduces Kumano's activation cost to a single red mana. Illusionist's Bracers copies the activation, essentially doubling the damage per activation. The enchantment doubles damage. This allowed Kumano to deal 4 damage to any target for each available source of red mana his controller had, while also exiling any creature he destroyed.
@@MTGMuddstah oh yeah, i was totally kidding. just never heard it pronounced that way. love the content though. thanks for all the effort that goes into making these vids, i know its not the easiest! :D
I love how effectively a mono red deck with a commander I'd never even seen before was able to control the game! This kind of creativity is why EDH is so great!
Kumano is such a fun red commander. His ability is more potent than it looks. Also can be used politically. Props to Martin for reigniting my love for this commander!
Martin when his commander came out
"So anyway I started blasting..."
Jeez just firing off damage all over the place, was great :D
🤣😂🤣😂
Matt
Just a random anecdote: When I first started watching your channel (years ago) my wife miss-heard your voice while saying MTG Muddstah, and interpreted it as MTV Buttstuff. So, for a long time now, twice a week (and three times a week when we're lucky) she gets to yell MTV Buttstuff when she hears your videos.
I'll wear that like a badge of honor.
That was the most annoying mono red deck I have ever seen. Naturally I loved it!
I like that Fires of Invention saw play in this match and had such an impact. It just does such a wonderful job at keeping mana available for ability activations while allowing you to advance your board state
Yea, I can see it being a HUGE boon to any EDH deck that has red and a commander with activations. It was incredible.
@@MTGMuddstah I'm starting to see Fires of Invention in Sisay decks. It works well because you can circumvent Fire's downside by having searchable responses in the deck for Sisay to grab.
That Red deck melts my heart!!!
And everything else cause fire.
Missed Mind’s Dilation trigger at 9:45
Super cool game though! Been looking for a unique mono red commander, and Kumano certainly fits the bill! Thanks Muddstah!
Pretty sure martin is supposed to get the copied ability from the illusionist's bracers since the equipment is still his, and the equipment creates the second ability.
I agree, the copy should go to the owner of the bracers which really makes me want to play that combo.... mmmmm... card advantage....
That's awesome! I didn't know that.
I actually thought the same and that this was an awesome combo I never thought about.
I totally looked over that! Thanks for the heads up!
Man that mono red was crazy!!! Always good to see mono blue flash get absolutely wrecked xD
Wow, that was an intense and well-balanced game. Everyone got to try to do their thing. The rest of you were just a little too slow to recognize how strong Martin's board was getting.
On the sixth day of Christmas, Ol' Muddstah gave to me
Six hundred pings
FIVE COPIED SOL RINGS
Four person politics
Three hundred treasures
Two times the triggers
And some more games of EDH!
That red deck is super sweet. Love the interaction with Defector allowing both players to draw 2 cards. Which was a misplay during the game. Lol. But good game otherwise. I was wondering who my red general would be and it might be this one lol.
I think it was the lack of artifact hate, more than anything else, that allowed the deck to go off like that. Personally, I don't like the idea of relying so much on keeping my equipment on the field...
I think Bosh was the "red" commander I liked seeing the most in this channel.
I love when a really obscure commander shines.
That Kumano looks super interesting
5:54 Unless I'm missing something, Chandra's Ignition also hits opponents
You're quite right. That's an editing error on my part.
and does he not get a 5/3 elemental from the forest dieing since titania was on the battlefield :x ?
Martin was the one who should be drawing the two additional cards, as he's the one who controls the copied ability.
14:59 Finally! Someone other than myself that knows Spelljack exists! It's such a fun counterspell, even if it does cost 6.
Martin at 7:31: so anyway, I started blasting
Two of my all time favorite commanders... Titania and Kumano! This was an awesome game! Well done!
This game is the perfect example of why I never play without green... you can never have too much enchantment/artifact hate.
That being said, Kumano with deathtouch is a really mean synergy and I hate it and love it at the same time.
White has the way better removal for that tho (except krosan grip maybe, that thing is awsome)
White also sucks at a lot of departments green doesn't, like ramping, drawing and tutoring, so I prefer green.
@@DarkEinherjar To be fair green is the only color that doesn't suck at ramping (black is probably second). As it stands white isn't very good on its own, thats right, but its a really solid second or third color.
Kumano killing itself to avoid being traded to blue, knowing the recast is free other than commander tax 🔥
Whoo, mono-colored beatdowns, my favorite~ And pretty much everyone got to play the game, too!
I don't think Max was able to play much bc Martin was really hating his Nezzie out, which made me sad when he didn't discard anything to save her.
Oh man this was awesome! 4 commanders you don't see everyday and the mono red pulling off the very impressive win.
This was a way good game! That Syr Konrad deck was tight! It gave me good card ideas for the konrad deck I built. Definitely putting in More protection for my konrad after seeing this game cause ain't no one's trying to see Syr Konrad on the field while mill is happening XD
Wow, that was an incredible mono red showing. Great playing guys!
Crazy game, kinda felt like arch enemy, ppl used to underestimate green, now everyone hates on it.
Right after I died, I realized I had spelljacked Andrew's Nature's Claim and never used it.
Deck list would be sick!
You missed a trigger from Minds Dilation when Ben cast Price of Fame on Kumono, it triggers on every opponents FIRST spell casts on any turn
15:52 Equip Lightning Greaves to Zombie token, activate unblockable on Reaver, re-equip. Assuming nobody has anything they can do while it's not on the Reaver, it's now unblockable and has shroud.
And then I see red mana available and trash the whole idea ;) Once again, my new fav red Commander :)
Hey, Ben!! Looking at the list the Syr Konrad deck is missing some amazing pieces in Tombstone Stairwell, Infernal Genesis, Mesmeric Orb and Rise of the Dark Realms. Tombstone Stairwell in particular would be SO SO strong with Syr Konrad, can literally end the game in a round of the table with a decent number of creatures in the graveyard because it triggers for everyone, on everyone's turn. Add in a Blood Artist or similar and hoooooly hell. And thats before you even get to Grave Pact, Black Market, Bloodchief Ascension and the rest. Love the deck but you're missing out on some serious power, and Tombstone Stairwell is SUPER cheap if i remember rightly.
That Red-Train-Of-Damage was cool to watch!
Oh damn, that Kumano deck was fire!
Doesn't Nissa's pilgrimage put one into the the battlefield
Quite right! I may have done that, but I'd have to go back and watch the footage.
Oh I am sorry you just seemed like played one from your hand
He still had a third land drop from Azusa I believe
Max, if you some how see this, you have my eternal respect for playing Thought Sponge.
Love this video and was excited to look at the decks but noticed the titania deck didn't have Nissa who shakes the world? What card did you cut for it ?
Oh no! I'm not sure at this point. I'll need to go through the list later tonight and update it.
That Kumano deck was nasty. Fun game!!
Wait why was there another battle phase for Godo on 14:43? Unless I missed something earlier he’s not a samurai...
You're playing the MTG Forge soundtrack in the background! :)
Correct me if im wrong. He couldnt respond to the morph taking his kumano because you can't respond to the morph flip
You can't respond to the morph action, but you can respond to the trigger.
@11:30 Could max have tapped his two critters to convoke the chord of calling to increase the X to 2? I'm just curious if convoke would interact that was in this situation.
When you said all mono colored I had a hunch white would get snubbed since overall it’s pretty trash
You can make it work if you're degenerate enough *cough Avacyn Armageddon
Avacyn? If you want to be truly degenerate, you build Hokori.
@@DarkEinherjar I have never seen anyone play that, but I guess its mean (although I have no idea how you untap your lands in white)
I had the misfortune of sitting at the same table as a Hokori player... it's as disgusting as it looks. Games are also extremely boring too because, unlike most Stax strategies, monowhite does lack ways of untapping multiple lands, so even the Hokori player gets locked down (and the guy is a douchebag who is perfectly fine with it).
Good lord that Kumano deck is fun to watch. I might build that
Wow, I do love me a Kumano, but that was an impressive showing still!
I just love red. Someday I will have 10 Mono red commander Decks and nothing else.
Nothing says mondays like muddstah
At 6:10, should you not have gotten land dying triggers from Titania when the Humble Defector killed your two lands?
I believe you're right!
I really want one of those Muddstah Pawn Shop playmats....any chance this will be available for sale? Seems like it's the only playmat worthy of running my Duke of Dumpsters Daretti deck on.
You'll have to ask Jolt!
@@MTGMuddstah Duly noted....now where do I find Jolt so I can give them all of my money?
Man, I wish that I could do one of these because playing against the same decks every time gets a bit boring. Although, I do need to make more decks myself, which is why I have three or so planned out, just don't have the money for them yet
Something I was surprised is so easy to build is eggs. Just jam in artifacts that just need 1-2 maaaaaybe 3 mana to draw you a card and do some random utility thing and you're in business. There are SO many commanders that can take advantage of it; Kykar Winds Fury, Korvold Fae Cursed King, Jhoira Weatherlight Captain, Yarok the Desecrated, Niv-Mizzet Parun, Gerrard Weatherlight Hero, Elsha of The Infinite, Raff Capashen Ship's Mage, Teshar Ancestor's Apostle, etc. and they cost a few cents a piece.
@@TheMightyBattleSquid My problem is that I like building gimmicked decks, or tribal decks. For instance, I am planning out two decks, one a bird tribal, and the other is an Estrid enchantress deck that looks to draw their entire library and win with lab man
Everytime i go watch these videos and the one deck i go to look at the deck list isnt there. Man this is bugging me
If Maraxus of Keld and Kumano, Master of Yamabushi are the first 2, who are going to be the other 2 commanders at the 4 player Mono-red table of underplayed , interesting commanders?
Shouldn't phrixian ingester stay on the field as he pings everything into exile since is on etb. I could be wrong.
Damn, that Kumano deck is pretty good.
17:38 dont they only lose 2 ? since it is loss of life not damage ?
Kumano? How rare, I thought people forgot about him. He works wonder in Torbran.
That kumano deck was great!
Holy hell, what an incredible game!
Couldn’t Ben have moved his greaves to the zombie token, then used the passage on the reaver, then put the greaves back on?
I never thought mono-red control would be a thing, let alone be so good at it.
Mono red control is one of the meanest decks out there
@@torinwilliams4671 In commander, though...maybe it's more common than I thought, but I've never encountered it.
That Kumano deck is amazing.
I think I've now seen my fav Red Commander :)
And that is why I love my Kumano deck :)
A mono red win!!!!! Yes all hail direct damage!!!
Never thought mono red control would work that well. To be fair noone touched his stuff, with some more removal the game would have gone quite differently.
Chandra's Ignition also hits players(1 shots the table off a Blightsteel.)
That was an utterly brutal game
Kumano is a powerhouse in my torbran deck my playgroup never let's him hit the field.
We had a Torbran game where the guy played purphoros followed by Hordeling Outburst... OUCH.
Hindsight is 20/20, but there were a few times you had titania out and just decided NOT to crack the fetchland. That's just free value.
The Kumano and Nezahal starting hands look best, but beating Titania+Library ain't easy. The Syr Konrad deck starts out worst.
After the game, I'm not surprised that Syr Konrad didn't win, but I also didn't expect the Kumano deck to take off as hard as it did.
11:15 Nissa puts three counters on a land but you draw 5 from Greater Good. Am I missing something here?
Nissa, Vital Force animates a land to become a 5/5. I think you're confusing her with Nissa Who Shakes the World?
@@MTGMuddstah I am! thank you
Hey. Thanks for making videos. :)
Where can we get that sick goblin pawn shop play mat
Jolt made it as a gift for hitting 50k subs. You'll need to ask him!
@@MTGMuddstah I guess I will it's an awesome play mat and I would use it everytime I play my krenko deck
This was a sweet game, but I am confused as to why mono red basically got a free pass for so long in the game. It definitely performed well but no one did anything to it for the first 70% of the game, so it's not really surprising that he came out on top.
Kumano is a surprisingly good commander!
Now that Kumano popped off quite hard.
I love kumano, that was awesome!
Nesahal decklist?
Kaminnow? Come on, dude. That's a U and an A! It's Koo-mahn-oh. Otherwise cool video
Martin wins for having the most badass random red commander ever!
...I always thought Kumano was a garbage commander... The amount of wrong I clearly was, cannot be described by words.
I seriously didn't understand most of the things that happened in the red's board xD
Heartstone reduces Kumano's activation cost to a single red mana.
Illusionist's Bracers copies the activation, essentially doubling the damage per activation.
The enchantment doubles damage.
This allowed Kumano to deal 4 damage to any target for each available source of red mana his controller had, while also exiling any creature he destroyed.
@@DarkEinherjar That's a lot of synergy (?
How did Martin cast mana geyser for free?
An Actual Opinion He has Fires of Invention in play
If that was my playgroup Martin wouldn't have seen turn 5
bane of progress would have been amazing, but oh well
Holy speck, that Kumano player was br00tal
That U.S. flag you attached to the Flipside Gaming logo has only 46 stars.
Needed a bane of progress
Okay so fires of invention looks pretty good this game
YAY LONG VIDEO
Decks like that in our meta get people not invited back....
If you had a mono-white deck you coulf have played a game of star magic
Oh hey there Netrunner playmat
Max Steel!!!
Surprised no one has build korvold or rankle yet haha 😆
I'll play my rankle tonight and we'll see if the video gets uploaded ;) It's not a fun deck to play against.
**cries in white**
So many triggers @_@
Martins deck is annoying holy crap man
lol CH-andra? what is wrong with u...
Too many things to number.
@@MTGMuddstah oh yeah, i was totally kidding. just never heard it pronounced that way. love the content though. thanks for all the effort that goes into making these vids, i know its not the easiest! :D