Battlegroup: Black Horse Regiment 1969, III Corps Vietnam. A Miniature Wargame AAR
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- This is a 15mm miniature wargame using the Battlegroup rule set. For this scenario we are using a homebrew campaign supplement to a beloved WWII rule set. In this game the 11th Armored Cavalry Regiment conducts a "hammer and anvil" style operation against VC forces. Can the mechanized forces of the "Black Horse" Regiment overcome the immense challenges of fighting in III Corps?
The miniatures used in this scenario are from Battlefront Miniature's NAM collection including the "Black Horse" box set. #wargaming #flamesofwar #miniaturewargaming #battlegroup #tabletopgaming - บันเทิง
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Great to see you fellas back! Loved the report. Excellent graphics, lovely table, and very well produced. Wish there was more historical gaming content out there made at this level!
Good to see you are also here!
Well said. 👍🏻
Hey LWTV, thanks for the watch and compliment. We hope to see you guys for a chat at Historicon again this year!
In 1967/68, I served with 3rd Squadron 11th Cavalry. Your presentation is superbly well done and representative of Cav operations I am familiar with, especially regarding the 25th Infantry Division with whom the Cav operated with on numerous occasions.
Well done, gentlemen..
Thank you for posting this. My father was actually an M113 tank commander in the Black Horse during Vietnam. It was odd seeing the video - as I've never seen most of that before. I wont lie, I was watching pretty carefully to see if he was in any of the content. He passed away several years ago, but there has never been a YT video that I wanted to share more
Thanks for watching. One thing I've found interesting after posting this video is the number of people that have commented that were either in the regiment or connected to it in some way. It is a fascinating topic.
Table looks amazing ! And figures too 👍🏼👍🏼
Thanks for the watch and comment!
Best historical wargaming channel going. Well done fellas.
My grandfather served in Black Horse during Vietnam (years unknown to me) he operated in 5 different M551 Sheridans. said the only thing on the tank that ever worked right was the M2 up top
In my research for this project I found piles of testimony on how bad the M551 was. It was not a widely beloved vehicle haha.
I really enjoyed the video. Here's some more recent 11th ACR history for you. I served in HHT Regiment (Hellraisers) in Fulda Germany as a Bradley mechanic from 88 to 92 and got sent to Ft. Polk right before the draw down. We went to Kuwait as an occupation force right after Desert Storm. One of the M1 tanks caught on fire and cooked off the rounds onboard spreading to other vehicles and creating carnage throughout the vehicle lines. I remember the SGT Major crawling under a M35 Deuce-and-a-half next to me to avoid flying rounds and debris. We lost some folks during and after as we had to walk around picking up unexploded ordnance and drop it into sand-bag lined trailers pulled by Humvees. What a waist.
Thanks for the watch and for your service with Black Horse. Its been awesome reading all the comments from former member of the regiment. Very storied history.
ALLONS! Great to see some BLACKHORSE specific scenarios! If you want modern BLACKHORSE scenarios set in the deserts of Donovia, check out my scenario guide for BLACKHORSES 2nd EDITION on my channel! Find the bastards and pile on!
Oh man! You guys need to make a pdf or something for your home brew nam rules!
And as usual absolutely gorgeous table you guys are playing over!
I second that about the homebrew rules, or are they a 'work-in-progress' ?
I would like that too. I have mech infantry and VC that need a good rules set. I would love a terrain tutorial as well. The table looks spectacular.
SO about the Battlegroup 'Nam rules..?
Our homebrew rules are a beer stained pile of notebook paper haha, Im not sure ours will be available. But this should be a big "wink wink" to the Battlegroup team haha.
We work on something similar in Austria (in German). We look forward to seeing more of your interpretation. By the way, great table!
So you use Discord?
Thanks for a informative video. One of my first Tank Commanders served with Black Horse in Vietnam. Best Tank Commander I ever had the pleasure to serve on his crew, and wingman when I got my own turn in the commanders seat.
Great men fighting in hard operational conditions for armor but they made it work.
One thing he talked about was the use of "beehive" to clear jungle around them quickly.
We only had a setting for the round when I was in, but never saw or even trained to use it in my time in.
great video.
Thanks for the view and comment!
Excellent wargaming again and shared to MWG
Outstanding AAR, pleasure seeing historical gaming presented so well.
First...wow! Great looking table. Great presentation of a gripping narrative.
Second...Allons! Served with the 11 ACR in the early '90s until the V Corps draw down. Fond memories.
Thanks for the watch and comment! I learned a lot about Black Horse while researching this project. Very interesting unit!
Allons! I was in 2/11 from 2015 to 2018. Best job I ever had!
Love your vlogs,well commentated,absolutely brill terrain and filming❤
perfekt Battlereport, thanks for sharing and all the best from Germany.
Yet another great video! Love the table, figures and narration!
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I just found you channel yesterday and have been binge-watching ever since! I love the way you guys make these reports! It makes me want to start gaming!
Yet another immaculate Bat rep from Long Shot Wargaming! It's
very clear, the amount of hard work that goes into these productions. Many Thanks Gents👍👍🥃
Long have I waited for you to return.
Thanks for the watch and comment!
So glad to see y'all still posting!! Amazing work as always!
Really nice work! Your ability to combine sound effects and good photography kept the story interesting throughout. I thoroughly enjoyed this video and admire how you used the game to explore and better understand armor during the Vietnam Conflict - so I got to learn something too! Again - excellent work!
Woohoo! Glad to see you guys back. This BR goes to show how great and adaptable these rules are. Thanks for the awesome content, keep it up!
What a beautiful game: a documented introduction, wonderful diorama landscape and figures (the latter may be too clean in comparison to the actual vehicles as seen in the intro). A real pleasure to see such a good display.
Thanks for the watch and comment!
One of the best channels around at he moment! Brilliant. More please!
Thank you, that's quite a compliment.
Great report, informative and superb...A fantastic looking game on a spectacular and immersive table, just awesome!!
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Stunning boards. love it
Thanks for watching!
Awesome set-up. Thanks for editing this beauty :)
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This is great production value and very informative! Great job.
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It's great to see a new video from you guys. This was an awesome battle.
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woow what a brilliant table you guys make
Thanks, honestly the table building is almost my favorite part of the hobby.
This was excellent ! Hoping to see more!
Thanks, we do have more planned, stay tuned.
A well put together after-action report showing an interesting asymetrical battle. Well done.
Great video,excellent war game with great historical information, graphics pic and narration.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
Glad to see your return to posting videos, I hope you’re able to continue. Really enjoy your videos. Excellent work. I would echo Little wars Tv sentiments.
My BattleTech Mercenary Unit is called the Black Horse. Nice to see how my unit's ancestors faired.
Not too badly. VC always got the drop and made their first shots count. But outnumbered & gunned, couldn't go up against the Regiment.
I find it very interesting how the Order of Battle is quite similar to what I am aiming for with my force. I'll need to do some double checking. But it's relatively close.
Amazing AAR as always!
In answer to your question. Armour played a crucial part at the battle of Long Tan for us Australians, so I would say if used correctly, it had an important part to play in Vietnam.
I can never remember, were any of our centurions at long tan or just our m113’s?
Not at Long Tan,..but they made an appearance at the battle of the hamlet Binh Ba.@@nathantudor5763
Thanks for watching! And thanks for the insight on Australian armor.
Yeah!!! A new video!!!
Thanks for being among the first watchers!!
@@LongShotWargamingthank you guys for putting out great content! Love the attention to history that you guys place.
Awesome production value and great entertainment! must have been a ton of work but one can feel the love for the project in every second! more please!!!
WOW WHAT A WONDERFUL TABLE!!!!
Thanks, they are a lot of work but fun to play.
Superb table, toys and game. It also highlights how well Battlegroup rules model fire and movement.
Battlegroup is the best! Its definitely a favorite at the club! Thanks for the watch and comment!
A very well done presentation! Thank you for sharing!
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Beautiful table!
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Great Retelling
Good Cinematic
Fun to Watch
Nice Narration
Biggest Complaint Is The Nonsensical first Sheridan Kill
And some Boardgame Functions Forcing too close Combat
love the style of the video. narration and minis, no shots of the players or the dice
Another awesome battle report gentlemen. Excellent terrain and miniatures. Keep up the great contemt
Thanks for the watch and comment!
Too few reports !!!...no bloody dice rolling YEAH !!!
Haha thanks for watching!
So happy to see you guys. Thanks for the content - a history lesson, a fun game, an awesome looking table, and excellent narration.
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Very cool! Would love to see more
Excellent report. Love the terrain and figs
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Love the Vietnam war content, would really hope to see more!!!
Yes its an interesting topic for wargaming, a lot of very specific challenges.
great AAR! lots of action.
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Fantastic as ever, my only complaint is I could watch one of these every week!
Thanks for the view and comment! Sadly time is the biggest constraint. We would love to game every week haha.
Good video as always. If I were to do one other historical setting, something like Vietnam (or African brush wars) would be it.
The possibilities are endless. That's something i both love and hate about this hobby. I have an idea list five pages long, ill need three lifetimes to accomplish them all. Bush Wars would make a great skirmish scenario. Force on Force has a campaign supplement for it.
Superb
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Great video! I love the Vietnam war game!
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The videos just keep getting better.
Nice battle report
Thanks
this is sick!
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Very well done! I enjoyed the video.
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My wait is finally over, thank you!!
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Hello from sunny Saigon!
We definitely need more Vietnam game reports. It's such an under reported and under played period.
well done!
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That is incredible! What kind of changes did you make to the rules for Vietnam?
We added all kind of interesting stuff trying to nail the Vietnam flavor. Medevac, a stealth mechanism for small VC units, napalm, boobytraps.
Freaking epic table!
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Ace! Thank you
Thanks for the watch and comment!
Also can you do a video talking about how you made the table and terrain ?
Thank you
Great video. I am on the look out for a set of Vietnam rules - so far everything I have tried has in some way fallen short. Are your mods for Battlefront available anywhere?
Our mods for Battlegroup are a beer stained pile of notebook paper haha, but if you have the core BG rulebook and a couple buddies to discuss Vietnam with its pretty easy and fun to come up with some Vietnam rules. For example MEDEVACs, theater appropriate vehicle and gun data, boobytraps, all kinds of stuff.
Great battle report, great looking models, great table! Very nice work, I like how the vehicles were not side by side, like Napoleon's guys. Too much of that nonsense is going around!
Battlegroup is great at discouraging that type of play. You'd get mutilated by indirect fire quick haha
Nice table top.
Awesome batrep! We've been planning to homebrew some Vietnam games ourselves too. I wonder how you handled the automatic rifles, 2-3 shots per figure or to keep it sane just 1 per model?
Yes, this created quite a conversation when we were brainstorming. We did give AK-47 and M16 type rifles a RoF of 2. This gave American squads a tremendous amount of firepower. But, another modification we made was adding 1 to the cover save of any VC unit. The result was the American squads expending an unbelievable amount of ammunition to score just a couple hits. Which in our opinions proves quite historically accurate.
@@LongShotWargaming ah that is a brilliant idea. Combined with the blind deployments it gives a period accurate result! Thanks for the tip will bring that to my group for discussion.
Very good do some more Vietnam please
Love the table looks.
But its the intel that plays the critical role.
Lack of intel can have devasting effect to the troops on the ground
Wake up babe, new br just dropped, hell yeah, ive been waiting for this
Very very good! 😎
We love Battlegroup system! How to get your Nam supplement? 😊
Spectacular table. US forces got rinsed, no two ways about it. What scale are the miniatures?
Looks like 15mm since they look like flames of war models.
They are (I think they actually mention it in the vid) battlefronts 15mm line for their Nam ruleset.
If you're familiar with Battlegroup mechanisms the US force had a remaining battle rating of 4 when the game ended.
@@LongShotWargaming oof. How about the VC?
May I ask if the NVA units were hidden from the US armoured player, how did that work? Did they have to leave the room during the NVA players turn?
Most of the game there weren't any VC models on the table. the VC player moved small chips around on a separate map of the table until the VC units fired or were spotted. It worked pretty well.
Great video, and amazing table. Thanks for posting.
Small thing - 'cache' is pronounced 'cash'. For it to be 'cashay' it'd need to be written 'caché' or 'cachet'. Both are words, but they're not applicable here.
('How close can we get to 'All Along the Watchtower' without it being 'All Along the Watchtower'?')
Best regards from the UK
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I'd be interested in talking to you guys about your Vietnam variant... we are looking for new authors for the Battlegroup series.
Hello Piers, thanks for watching! Admittedly, what we portrayed here as a comprehensive and well put together supplement is actually a barley coherent pile of scribbled notes at this point haha. But i will say the Vietnam flavored additions we did come up with blended with the existing BG mechanism quite well. Battlegroup is a great game and there's loads of potential in our opinions for expansion into other areas.
Well would still be interested in chatting to you guys about Battlegroup and things... got a place I can drop you guys an email?
@@piersbrand3539 longshot.wargaming@gmail.com
I just clicked on this because the table looked awesome in the thumbnail, ended up watching the whole video.
any chance of a tour of your games room it looks amazing
Loved this. Would you be willing to share you Battle group house rules to make them Vietnam esque?
well job!! is it possible to find homebrew vietnam somewhere?
Unfortunately our rule "modifications" are not available. But, there are a lot of Vietnam related rules available. Charlie Company, BOHICA, Force on Force, and Charlie Don't Surf are all popular.
@LittleWarsTV
Hey, pretty nice battle report! We're also working in Austria on Fab rules for Vietnam. Are you interested in sharing ideas?
Do you know where I might be able to find 11 ACR decals for the flash in this scale? I want to use the patch as a unit marking for a Battletech company but I'm having trouble finding something.
Not sure, the decals used on these minis came with the "Black Horse" box set. They might be available from Battlefront Miniatures individually.
@@LongShotWargaming thanks, I took a look but it doesn't appear that the sheet has what I need, which is the rearing horse on the red and white background.
Well done video. I must say, the Sheridans got smoked pretty quickly. While tough to knock out with shoulder-fired weapons... the Russians are facing similar struggles in Ukraine.
How do you make these giant sets is this game room in a museum
Where can you buy ur models from
This was awesome! Loved the narrative focus over the dicing. The popups for the equipment is a brilliant touch!
Thanks for the watch and comment! If this is THE Kick Ass Mail Order, you guys rock. Great web-store you guys have!
Thank you! @@LongShotWargaming
Where do you all get your sound effects
Would you guys be willing to share your homebrew supplement ?
Where did you get the vehicles from?
All of these figures are from Battlefront Miniature's NAM range. The bulk of the armor was in the "Black Horse" box set.
@@LongShotWargaming What scale are these M113s?
@@hornetmagtfVMFA314 Everything is 15mm - 1/100 scale. Everything here is from Battlefront Miniatures.
@@LongShotWargaming I see I was just curious.
Pretty fucked up to turn a battle report for a tabletop game into war propaganda
Been waiting for this