People of the Lost Sea: What is the attraction to this hot, salty, man made body of water just below Palm Springs. MHealy: Producing, Cinematography, Editing (Final Cut X), Location Scout
I know the lady speaking of the talipia. She used to own Camp-Run-Muck bar and convenience store. It was a fun place to hang out at on the weekends when I wanted to get out of the San Diego hustle and bustle. Sometimes I'd stay at the Sea & Sun Motel a couple of blocks from there. This was at Desert Shores on the west bank of the Salton Sea.
IN THE 1980S , the salton sea was dying , now looking at the current environment it looks like it will be a drying sea.... a big dry salty playa in 30 more years,,,,... California is sooo past peak prosperity..... a lot of people there are in denial,,,,,
By watching videos about the Salton Sea, I've figured out that, as a reasonable estimate, it would take the removal of enough salt to account for as much as 100 Great Pyramids of Giza, to bring the lake of the Salton Sea to normal salinity, Enough salt, at 17,000,000 tons per annum, with which to salt the roads of the US, for the next 35-years.
What needs to be done is a dam cutting the Sea in half. One half will be increasingly fresher water over time, the other half will be an overflow mineral salt sump.
Excess water that Can't be used by farmers?? I heard that every spare drop of Colorado river water gets diverted to San Diego and the Farmers get penalized for using more than their allotted water
The lady about 7 minutes in makes me chuckle because she honestly thinks that the tilapia (or whatever it is) is really valuable and that someone would or could commercially fish the salton sea.....a little deluded, her thinking is. They could probably dragnet the entire lake and it wouldnt be enough to make a living. Not to mention they are likely contaminated as all hell.
I certainly wouldn't eat a fish that came from the Salton Sea. It is one of the most polluted bodies of water in the world. Look up the "New River." It is the most polluted river in the US. It is full of raw sewage, industrial waste, and contains germs that cause serious illnesses in very high concentrations. The New River flows right into the Salton Sea. There are videos here on youtube about the New River.
@@mikestevens8012 Ha! That's EXACTLY what I thought someone said the first time I heard the title! So, I thought they were kidding, and I laughed! I felt like a huge idiot!
I am attempting to locate news regarding 5 black men that died in this Sea while fishing in 1979 one of those men I believe was my Dad named Jesse. If anyone has any articles of that incident please reply to my post. I would like to speak with you. Thank you.
Man ruining the Earth's enviormnt .. so sad and careless..why let it go to the point of no return I Kno someone out there has billions they will never need in this life time...think of the little children that can't breathe think of their future!
@@ChrisLee66 Spend the time you might invest in being offended convincing your countrymen to cast the right votes. Anything is changeable, especially the government. We need a revolutionary.
@@ChrisLee66 Generally (almost always) it suggests there's something inherently bad about government. There's only something inherently bad about shitty government. Unfortunately we just can't stop picking shitty governments from the federal level on down through city. We have a shitty government addiction. Apologies for misunderstanding and high five! Power to the people! :)
+Mike Hock You need to go watch your reality TV, and stick with it. Sad how people like you are more interested in listening to carnival barkers than the real deal.
Why don't people physically tear down the derelict houses? I'd be out their with a sledgehammer, an axe and so on. Then I'd BURN up the crap that is littering the landscape. The metal could be piled somewhere and eventually recycled. The point is YOU RESIDENTS of Salton Sea are ON YOUR OWN. Do something for yourselves. You talk of a a nice community, geez, a lot of what is there looks like a freaking graveyard. I saw a PBS documentary that stated that the fish in the sea are infected with botulism and so on. How unhealthy is that lake anyway? I know the sea has massive die offs of fish in the summers. Anyway, what a mess.
I think that many potential employers could get an opportunity to say what is past is past. Honest hard work, and avoiding trouble might lead to a respectable life, and rejuvenate a community.
@@TheDustysix I agree there many solutions to this. Property clean-ups, reducing agricultural toxin inputs, mandate that any sewage going in be treated. The county could enjoy increased property taxes after spending some money on this. Many people live here and they seem to enjoy the area.
Judging how that man was filling up his cooler in the video I would say ,Yes. However I don't think I would care to eat them seeing how farmers flush their fields with some of the water that's entering the lake. You see farmers, they spray pesticides on their crops to control insects and weeds. Being in a desert there is the inevitable evaporation from the dry desert winds. That constant evaporation will tend to concentrate those pesticides in the water over time. There is no place for the chemicals to go so their levels have to be going up over time. That shit ends up in the fish. You know? That man catching all those fish might have a small store where he sells them. Not saying he does but that was a lot of fish filling that cooler. If I see small fish like that in a few hundred miles from that lake, I would think twice and then pass on buying them. Just saying. I suppose one could send a fish to a testing lab somewhere and find out if they are safe to eat. Interesting question though.
***** Avian Botulism spikes every August when the water temps are at their annual highs. That is what mostly drives the annual die offs. That and Oxygen levels drop with hotter water not being able to hold as much oxygen as cooler water. Been going on since the 90's. At least.
@@sailingsolar I heard that...the botulism in the birds comes because of a yearly algae bloom due to the heated water. The fish eat the algae, and botulism is fatal. I don't think this type of die-off is unique to the Salton Sea, but "doom and gloomers" make it sound that way. Great post, thank you.
Denial isn't just a river in Egypt...apparently it's a sea in Imperial Valley too...And FYI to you idiots pulling fish out of the Salton Sea...The New River flows into that water from Mexico...INTO IT! The Salton Sea is 240 feet below sea level...That equals toilet bowl...that's not salt...It's shit and piss...the fish are choking on it all the way to the shoreline where they beach themselves and die. Fukashima fish are less toxic.
Instead of putting straw bales on the retreating shoreline (which does nothing) why not build wetland habitat along the entire length of the New River and Alamo River? That gives the birds somewhere to go. With regards to the Salton Sea why not increase the salinity by adding seawater from the gulf of California. Ever been to the Dead Sea? It is a tourism destination and has salinity much greater than the Salton Sea. Cover the entire length of Salton Sea lake bed with high salinity water and the air quality will get better. As the salt content of the Salton Sea increase you can incorporate salt harvesting just like they do at the Dead Sea. Anyone who thinks they are going to "restore" the Salton Sea to what it was in the 1960s is an idiot. Any solution that requires constant input of money to make work is foolish. Water from the Gulf of California flows down hill so there is no energy input. In fact you can generate energy with hydroelectric potential.
we could revive this sea with a simple 66" pipeline from paymasters landing to Bombay with a slow reduction to a 33" pipe we could power a wheel and generator to create city/community revenue to further fund employment opportunities in the local area. I'd like 10% for further details about building heaven on earth. smog-free cities and air-powered cars. water cleaning power plants and garden dome homes. The Salton would become the world's first freshwater Oasis.
Impossible engineering-wise. Besides, they struggle to allocate a small amount for the gravel/sand cap that is already approved to cover this hell-hole.
@@Juneisthebestmonth Just go test the New river and follow it to its beginning. Don't worry that just settlement the smell will go away in 30 - 40 years after they stop filling it
I know the lady speaking of the talipia. She used to own Camp-Run-Muck bar and convenience store. It was a fun place to hang out at on the weekends when I wanted to get out of the San Diego hustle and bustle. Sometimes I'd stay at the Sea & Sun Motel a couple of blocks from there. This was at Desert Shores on the west bank of the Salton Sea.
IN THE 1980S , the salton sea was dying , now looking at the current environment it looks like it will be a drying sea.... a big dry salty playa in 30 more years,,,,... California is sooo past peak prosperity..... a lot of people there are in denial,,,,,
By watching videos about the Salton Sea, I've figured out that, as a reasonable estimate, it would take the removal of enough salt to account for as much as 100 Great Pyramids of Giza, to bring the lake of the Salton Sea to normal salinity, Enough salt, at 17,000,000 tons per annum, with which to salt the roads of the US, for the next 35-years.
I alwayfish the salton sea with my daddy because we like fishing when he was alive we like fishing, the califorina sea. Regina Batiste.
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Very good documentary.
What needs to be done is a dam cutting the Sea in half. One half will be increasingly fresher water over time, the other half will be an overflow mineral salt sump.
That's a great Idea! But it would probably cost too much.
@@foxtrot312 Sadly yes, but half a lake and half a sump is better than no lake and all sump, which is where we are going now.
my buddies & I love swimming in the salton sea!
nice vid, very interesting.
Excess water that Can't be used by farmers?? I heard that every spare drop of Colorado river water gets diverted to San Diego and the Farmers get penalized for using more than their allotted water
Mad max
The lady about 7 minutes in makes me chuckle because she honestly thinks that the tilapia (or whatever it is) is really valuable and that someone would or could commercially fish the salton sea.....a little deluded, her thinking is. They could probably dragnet the entire lake and it wouldnt be enough to make a living. Not to mention they are likely contaminated as all hell.
You misunderstood what she said. Go listen again.
@@ravineseder3133 that was 4 years ago I doubt the person cares
I certainly wouldn't eat a fish that came from the Salton Sea. It is one of the most polluted bodies of water in the world. Look up the "New River." It is the most polluted river in the US. It is full of raw sewage, industrial waste, and contains germs that cause serious illnesses in very high concentrations. The New River flows right into the Salton Sea. There are videos here on youtube about the New River.
There is an over load of tiliapia and not enough food for them to reach a decent commercial size.
What's the title of the classical music that's playing in the beginning?
PACHELBEL CANON from Johann Pachelbel
+fredericdelarue easy way to remember ," the taco Bell cannon"
@@mikestevens8012 Ha! That's EXACTLY what I thought someone said the first time I heard the title! So, I thought they were kidding, and I laughed! I felt like a huge idiot!
Ugh...bland like vanilla, dull as a dish prepared with no salt!! What a boring narrator!! I fell asleep as well!!!
It's a documentary about the Salton sea, what the hell do you expect? You want excitement, go watch something else.
Another example of a disaster that is a valuable resource, to be milked :-)
How can you put ALL this effort into a long documentary, and have a guy so bad narrate the damn story. I'm falling asleep listening to this ughhhh
I am attempting to locate news regarding 5 black men that died in this Sea while fishing in 1979 one of those men I believe was my Dad named Jesse. If anyone has any articles of that incident please reply to my post. I would like to speak with you. Thank you.
I'm sorry about that man...
+Pudnite thank you, and I'm female.
Man ruining the Earth's enviormnt .. so sad and careless..why let it go to the point of no return I Kno someone out there has billions they will never need in this life time...think of the little children that can't breathe think of their future!
Could have been beautiful, been neglected too long. Now it's a freekshow.
I believe this Sea will be allowed to dry up. Kind of a sad situation. 🌾
I don't think so. It was created by mistake. It shouldn't be here.
@@karnubawax now that its here. We need it. If it dries up all the toxic dust will ruin a lot of areas
Remember the nine words you don't ever want to hear "We're with the government and we're here to help"
The government is you, numbnuts. Help choose a better one. :)
@@kgbeezr75 numbnuts?
@@ChrisLee66 Spend the time you might invest in being offended convincing your countrymen to cast the right votes. Anything is changeable, especially the government. We need a revolutionary.
@@kgbeezr75 That's the sentiment of the comment I quoted! wth
@@ChrisLee66 Generally (almost always) it suggests there's something inherently bad about government. There's only something inherently bad about shitty government. Unfortunately we just can't stop picking shitty governments from the federal level on down through city. We have a shitty government addiction. Apologies for misunderstanding and high five! Power to the people! :)
god damn i fell asleep!
+Mike Hock You need to go watch your reality TV, and stick with it. Sad how people like you are more interested in listening to carnival barkers than the real deal.
+Scott Anthony hey if you can't beat them join em it's 2016 bud
Mike Hock he he
Why don't people physically tear down the derelict houses? I'd be out their with a sledgehammer, an axe and so on. Then I'd BURN up the crap that is littering the landscape. The metal could be piled somewhere and eventually recycled. The point is YOU RESIDENTS of Salton Sea are ON YOUR OWN. Do something for yourselves. You talk of a a nice community, geez, a lot of what is there looks like a freaking graveyard. I saw a PBS documentary that stated that the fish in the sea are infected with botulism and so on. How unhealthy is that lake anyway? I know the sea has massive die offs of fish in the summers. Anyway, what a mess.
California might have Prisoners willing to do it to get a reduced sentence and get an honest work history.
I think that many potential employers could get an opportunity to say what is past is past. Honest hard work, and avoiding trouble might lead to a respectable life, and rejuvenate a community.
Thank you!
@@TheDustysix
I agree there many solutions to this. Property clean-ups, reducing agricultural toxin inputs, mandate that any sewage going in be treated. The county could enjoy increased property taxes after spending some money on this. Many people live here and they seem to enjoy the area.
Are the fish edible?
Judging how that man was filling up his cooler in the video I would say ,Yes.
However I don't think I would care to eat them seeing how farmers flush their fields with some of the water that's entering the lake. You see farmers, they spray pesticides on their crops to control insects and weeds. Being in a desert there is the inevitable evaporation from the dry desert winds. That constant evaporation will tend to concentrate those pesticides in the water over time. There is no place for the chemicals to go so their levels have to be going up over time. That shit ends up in the fish. You know? That man catching all those fish might have a small store where he sells them. Not saying he does but that was a lot of fish filling that cooler. If I see small fish like that in a few hundred miles from that lake, I would think twice and then pass on buying them. Just saying.
I suppose one could send a fish to a testing lab somewhere and find out if they are safe to eat. Interesting question though.
***** Avian Botulism spikes every August when the water temps are at their annual highs. That is what mostly drives the annual die offs. That and Oxygen levels drop with hotter water not being able to hold as much oxygen as cooler water. Been going on since the 90's. At least.
@@sailingsolar
I heard that...the botulism in the birds comes because of a yearly algae bloom due to the heated water. The fish eat the algae, and botulism is fatal. I don't think this type of die-off is unique to the Salton Sea, but "doom and gloomers" make it sound that way.
Great post, thank you.
THANK YOU I WANT TO KNOW MORE MORE AND MORE THANKS I APPRECIATE IT THE GIRL FROM CALEXICO CALIFORNIA 👋 BE SAVE
Honey Badger don't give a crap.
Denial isn't just a river in Egypt...apparently it's a sea in Imperial Valley too...And FYI to you idiots pulling fish out of the Salton Sea...The New River flows into that water from Mexico...INTO IT! The Salton Sea is 240 feet below sea level...That equals toilet bowl...that's not salt...It's shit and piss...the fish are choking on it all the way to the shoreline where they beach themselves and die. Fukashima fish are less toxic.
Denial is not just the name of a Run about on Deep Space Nine. Ha ha ha.
Let nature finish her job. Trying to rationalize why it should be saved is true hypocrisy.
Instead of putting straw bales on the retreating shoreline (which does nothing) why not build wetland habitat along the entire length of the New River and Alamo River? That gives the birds somewhere to go. With regards to the Salton Sea why not increase the salinity by adding seawater from the gulf of California. Ever been to the Dead Sea? It is a tourism destination and has salinity much greater than the Salton Sea. Cover the entire length of Salton Sea lake bed with high salinity water and the air quality will get better. As the salt content of the Salton Sea increase you can incorporate salt harvesting just like they do at the Dead Sea. Anyone who thinks they are going to "restore" the Salton Sea to what it was in the 1960s is an idiot. Any solution that requires constant input of money to make work is foolish. Water from the Gulf of California flows down hill so there is no energy input. In fact you can generate energy with hydroelectric potential.
Actually, the Salton Sea has time on its side, although that means it will eventually become part of the Sea of Cortez.
gta v any one?
Yea
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Lolz
we could revive this sea with a simple 66" pipeline from paymasters landing to Bombay with a slow reduction to a 33" pipe we could power a wheel and generator to create city/community revenue to further fund employment opportunities in the local area. I'd like 10% for further details about building heaven on earth. smog-free cities and air-powered cars. water cleaning power plants and garden dome homes. The Salton would become the world's first freshwater Oasis.
Impossible engineering-wise. Besides, they struggle to allocate a small amount for the gravel/sand cap that is already approved to cover this hell-hole.
@@Juneisthebestmonth any thing is better then the suffering coming.
@@Juneisthebestmonth lol
@@Juneisthebestmonth That hell hole has three septic lines running into it. The big one is flowing full of hot sauce..
@@Juneisthebestmonth Just go test the New river and follow it to its beginning. Don't worry that just settlement the smell will go away in 30 - 40 years after they stop filling it
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why dam some of farm run off or release algae eaters like snails or sucker fish